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Can info under college notice acceptable for wiki citation?

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Heritage Institute of Technology Clubs lists

Hello, I recently uploaded PDF file (HITK clubs.pdf) for the citation of my college clubs list in the Heritage Institute of technology, Kolkata article. So, the PDF I uploaded can it be used as a citation for the same? HridoyKundu (talk) 18:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is question that you should ask at the respective Wikipedia. Commons does not enforce any citation policy. Ruslik (talk) 20:29, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HridoyKundu: You don't need to upload images of sources you want to cite in a English Wikipedia article. English Wikipedia doesn't require sources cited in article be available online; it only requires that they be en:Wikipedia:Reliable sources (as defined by English Wikipedia). Moreover, such images like the PDF file you uploaded may be eligible for copyright protection regardless of whether they are considered reliable sources and uploading them to Commons could be considered a copyright violation. Why do you think the file you uploaded is OK to be license as {{cc-by-sa-2.5}}? You don't seem to have created the list yourself (you've attributed it to "Basab Chaudhuri (Principal of Heritage Institute of Technology, Kolkata)") and receiving a copy of the list via email doesn't mean it's not eligible for copyright protection and doesn't make you its copyright holder. Did you just choose a random license when you uploaded this file? Does it clearly state somewhere in the email your received or in the PDF itself that the list is released under a "cc-by-sa-2.5" license? Perhaps the file is OK for Commons, and only needs to be relicensed; it's hard, though, to determine that without knowing more information about the email you received. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:35, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So should I delete this? HridoyKundu (talk) 09:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possibility to host some old Vietnamese songs

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I have a small playlist on YouTube with traditional/patriotic Vietnamese songs, but I have no idea if they are copyrighted, an example of old Vietnamese patriotic music would be "Rừng xanh vang tiếng Ta Lư (Phương Nam) - Thúy Hà (1967)", which was posted there in 2022 by Vu Thanh, would he have to post the songs here or are he and I unable to post this on Commons? 實際 (talk) 21:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@實際: In general it is part of the job of the uploader to work out the copyright status. We would need both the underlying song and the particular performance to be either public domain or free-licensed.
There has never been a File:Rừng xanh vang tiếng Ta Lư (Phương Nam) - Thúy Hà (1967), so I don't know what you are referring to with that. - Jmabel ! talk 00:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@實際 you need to check whether the copyrighted audio/video you intend to upload are in the public domain. see also Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Vietnam.
You can use various com:upload tools (e.g. com:v2c) to upload public-domain material here. RoyZuo (talk) 12:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My Image File wont upload

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I cannot proceed to the next step as my image file will not upload no matter how many times I try to change the file name uniquely. Please help resolve this issue. Thank you. JillianSkyeJewett (talk) 00:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JillianSkyeJewett I am not really an expert in uploading but no one has replied thus far. Is there a particular error message popping up? Is the file showing up at Special:UploadStash? Are you on a mobile device or desktop? Give as much info as you can. Commander Keane (talk) 03:58, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The file name you were trying to upload has been blacklisted because it is very common, uninformative, or spelled in ALLCAPS. Please go back and choose a better file name. When uploading files to Wikimedia Commons, please use a file name that describes the content of the image or media file you're uploading and is sufficiently distinctive that no-one else is likely to pick the same name by accident.
Examples of good file names:
Nodnol skyline from Nodnol City Hall - Aug 2022.jpg
1875 Meeting of Settlers at Falconer Bay, New Nodland.jpg
Pseudohedron with no vertex visible from center.png
Examples of bad file names:
Image01.png
Joe.jpg
DSC00001.JPG
Foo.svg.png
30996951316264l.jpg
PSEUDOHEDRON WITH NO VERTEX VISIBLE FROM CENTER.png
For more information, please see Commons:First steps/Upload form. If you have a good reason for uploading a file with this name, or if you receive this message when attempting to upload a new version of an existing file, please let us know at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard or directly at MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist. Be sure to specify the exact name of the file you are trying to upload. Thank you.
That is what keeps popping up. I continue to follow all steps and still the same message. Any next step? 47.20.56.84 23:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First step is sign back into your account. The second step is to try changing the filename. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 00:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now it says "You don't have permission to upload this file." when I click upload. JillianSkyeJewett (talk) 23:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you forgot to provide a license. You are not blocked. good luck. --Mateus2019 (talk) 16:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Schriftenerkennung

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Ich habe ein Eisenkästchen erstanden worauf zwei mal ein Schriftsymbol eingeätzt ist neben der Verzierung. Kann mir jemand helfen herauszufinden woher das schöne Kästchen stammt und wie alt es ist? Guido Brander (talk) 15:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leider dies ist eine Seite mit Hilfe zur Nutzung von Wikimedia Commons und kein allgemeiner Informationsschalter. - Jmabel ! talk 22:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
einfach digital abfotografieren=digitalisieren und durch google images und/oder tineye jagen. Wenn das nicht hilft, einfach Kontakt mit einem entspr. Museum aufnehmen und dann das Objekt mitbringen. Eine andere Möglichkeit wäre ein guter Antiquitätenhänder. Oder Du lädst es irgendwo hoch und fragst Internetnutzer. Bin gespannt, was rauskommt... --Mateus2019 (talk) 17:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Besten Dank für die gut gemeinte Hilfe. Google habe ich ausprobiert, Antiquitätenhändler bin ich selbst, tineye muss ich probieren. Zur zeit versuche ich chinesische Kaligraphen zu erreichen. 2001:8E0:3C85:DD01:5C18:53E3:EB34:680E 10:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review my upload practices

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I'm going to be uploading a couple dozen images similar to File:Connection Machine CM-2 and DataVault at Computer Museum of America.png and have a few questions to make sure I'm following best practices on those future uploads:

  • I'm not sure when to use Template:Archival version. Is it (still) good practice to upload two separate copies of images, with the advent of webp?
  • I'm not sure that it is OK to use webp with Template:Compressed version. I thought it might adapt the text since there is a deprecated "filetype" parameter in the template, but instead, the template erroneously names the webp version as being a JPEG.
  • I had hoped that by uploading a webp thumbnail, the image rendered in the infobox might retain a transparent background, so that it had better compatibility with Wikipedia's (relatively new) dark mode option. Unfortunately, on w:Connection Machine, the infobox thumbnail renders transparency as white. Is there a way to avoid this?
  • Anything else I did wrong?

Thanks, Hubcapp (talk) 22:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I were doing this, I would one or another way upload the straight-from-the-camera photo as well. Not sure what the "best practice" is to do that for a PNG, but File:Gheorghe Petrașcu - K. H. Zambaccian (1927).jpg shows what I typically do for a JPG (note the upload history). - Jmabel ! talk 00:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to do that, but unfortunately the base of these images was a NEF file, which is a non‑free image format that Wikimedia can't accept. NEF is not merely a type of proprietary JPEG, but actually contains useful information to resample the photo with different exposure etc, pulling out information that can't be derived from the "Raw JPEG" that I also had the camera save at the same time. I'll likely upload these base NEF files to my personal website under the same CC BY-SA 4.0 license, and could include an external link to them on Wikimedia, if there's precedence for doing so. Hubcapp (talk) 03:28, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hubcapp I think linking to the raw files would appreciated as you can't follow Jmabel's outstanding practice of uploading the new processed file over the top of the original jpg.
Commons:Raw files (which I created the other day) doesn't mention a specific template to use for the personal website links and I couldn't find a relevant one in Category:External link templates. Commander Keane (talk) 03:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Normally it doesn't matter much to have the raw NEF, so I can understand that no one has been particularly interested in creating a template to provide the functionality of facilitating external link to source RAW File, but this object in particular really needs it, further than just being a hypothetical "best practice".
The Connection Machine CM-2 casing is Black, contrasting heavily with the array of bright and rapidly flashing red LEDs, making it a challenging object to photograph. It requires very high dynamic range, which DSLR cameras are not known for. Film photography does a lot better when high dynamic range is required (see the copyrighted image of this object at https://www.tamikothiel.com/cm/), while my poor $5000 2015 era DSLR needs every advantage it can get to try to compete, still struggling a bit with the varying angle of the LEDs in the final result. The "Raw JPEG" version of this exact same photo is a blurry mess where it is hard to discern any single LED, and it was only after processing the NEF that I realized I did actually get an acceptable shot of the CM-2.
I'm able to make a Template:RAW image link as long as it's not going to get me in trouble. It would probably be better if someone more established & familiar with Wikimedia culture were to make the template instead. — Hubcapp (talk) 04:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Regarding Template:Compressed version, if you think it should be modified to accept webp and no no one spots your question here be sure to follow up at Commons:Village pump/Technical.
  2. Regarding transparency, could it be related to Phab:T283646 which leads to this ImageMagick issue? It is too technical for me.
Commander Keane (talk) 05:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I need help in creating a Campaign

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Hello,

I am trying to create an upload wizard with prefilled categories for my project "Commons:Dandari Photo Project(pilot)", I request somebody who has the upload wizard rights to help me with this ASAP.

Thank you. Nskjnv (talk) 06:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nskjnv: I would suggest that you actively contact people who have done similar tasks before. - Jmabel ! talk 19:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bei dem Objekt: Datei "DE-STRUK-TION" ist ein Schreibfehler in der Überschrift eingetreten. -DE-SRRUK-TION -

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Ich habe gestern die "Stele "DE-STRUK-TION" ins Netz gestellt. Die Bezeichnung "SRRUK" ist falsch. Ich bitte darum, den Schreibfehler zu korrigieren. Karl Döringer (talk) 08:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 08:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 1 image i uploaded was from the city of terrebonne website and the other one was from a archived website for La Plaine and i dont know if its copyrighted i only did this to add more information of La Plaine. --Osamadidnothing (talk) 19:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Osamadidnothing: Hi, You need the formal written permission of the copyright holder before uploading files from the Internet. If you have such a permission, please see COM:VRT for the procedure. Yann (talk) 19:54, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What car is that?

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I wonder what car they are standing in front of in this picture:

Could someone identify it?

Ove Raul (talk) 22:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ove Raul, you could try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

uploading a photo on wiki page for actress Quentin Dean

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is it possible to upload a photo for this actresses' page? she deserves one i think, as her performance was highly acclaimed & the film won the academy award that year ("In the Heat of the Night"). i did upload a photo, but it went to a separate wiki page... Longhairofdeath (talk) 23:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Short version: you are out of luck.
Long version: It appears from English Wikipedia you successfully uploaded File:Quentin Dean as 'Delores Purdy'.jpg. Which directly ended up here at Wikimedia Commons which only accepts free content. However, you selected a licence for the file indicating "own work", and unless you made the film that is not correct. More likely, if it is a screenshot from a copyrighted film it is not free and will soon get deleted from Commons.
I think it is technically possible for you to insert the picture into the English Wikipedia article, but as I said it will get deleted here and then disappear from there too.
You might be able to find a freely licensed photo of Quentin Dean here already, or upload one you find.
If you want someone to source a free photo of this person you can request it, just let us know if you want help with the requests process.
I don't blame you for the mistake, the cross-wiki upload process is crappy, in fact I thought we turned it off. Commander Keane (talk) 02:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

tribal gonds gussadi culture

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gond culture Chandu677 (talk) 06:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chandu677: are you talking about Category:Gondi people? I suppose Category:Gondi culture could be created. There are other examples like Category:Australian Aboriginal culture. Commander Keane (talk) 07:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This question could be related to Category:Gussadi dance. Should the dance category be a subcat of Gondi people? We need someone with some relevant knowledge. Commander Keane (talk) 07:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

צילום מסך

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אם אני מצלמת צילום מסך מאתר אינטרנט של לוגו האם התמונה מפרה זכויות יוצרים < אסתר ברוק (talk) 07:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(דרך Google Translate:) כמעט תמיד. אתה יכול להיות יותר ספציפי? - Jmabel ! talk 11:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
אני רוצה לעלות תמונה של אתר חדשות עליו כתבתי ערך אבל אני לא מצליחה להבין איך אני יכולה לשים את התמונה מבלי להפר זכויות יוצרים 2A02:14F:17B:5CC6:615B:6588:71F3:1FDE 11:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(דרך Google Translate:) סביר להניח שזה לא אפשרי. רוב (אולי 95%, אולי יותר) של מה שיש באינטרנט הוא מוגן בזכויות יוצרים ולא ברישיון חופשי, ולכן אינו כשיר ל-Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 18:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
סגור אין בעיה טוב שאתה אומר לי תודה רבה…אז רק לידע כללי, לא הצלחתי להבין איך האנשים שכתבו ערכים בויקיפדיה כן צירפו תמונות של הלוגו והכל למה שהם כתבו ועוד כל מיני תמונות מהאתר לדוגמא בערך ״בוקרא״ אתר תקשורת ערבי… 2A02:14F:1F6:1EDE:D041:560E:871B:18AA 18:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our Premier doesn’t know what she is doing 2604:3D09:7184:6A00:240B:5992:125B:7D9A 13:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

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I would like to ask if anyone knows of any Malaysian government websites where photos of high-ranking officials (such as Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad) are available for free use? 161.142.148.174 17:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Generally, you visit a website and check for a "Copyright" section (usually there is a link at the bottom of the website) explaining if content is available under a free license.
For example the State of Queensland, Australia says CC BY 4.0 on its copyright page so most of the material is ok for Commons.
Brazil's Government website says at the bottom "All content on this site is published under license Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported." - not a free licence so not ok for Commons.
"© 2024 All Rights Reserved" means not free so not ok for Commons.
Is there a specific website you want us to look at?
I am not familiar with Malaysia so you may have to check the official website for the main government as well as each state and territory. Commander Keane (talk) 22:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Commons:Licensing covers all acceptable licenses. Keep is mind that Commons has a precautionary principle - if you are not certain about the licence, don't upload the file. Ask here for follow up questions. Commander Keane (talk) 22:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading McCafferty Album Cover Help

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I've seen wikipedia pages of albums by artists but I did not create the album cover so I am unsure if I am able to upload it. I am looking for a way to upload an album cover of the album "Beachboy" by McCafferty NiaZedCrasher (talk) 02:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest visiting w:Wikipedia:Upload/old and following the instructions if you can. Commander Keane (talk) 03:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless it is either free-licensed or in the public domain (both unlikely) this will have nothing to do with Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 03:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User name incorrect

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I tried to change the name of the user name because, by mistake, I added a letter. I need the user name to be Zanja Records, not Zanjar Records. It says that the name is already in use, but it does not exist when I search. Please help. Zanjar Records (talk) 03:25, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zanjar Records: The account Zanja Records does exist. It was created in 2020 and its sole surviving contribution to Commons was to upload File:Zanja Records.tif. If you're planning to use your current account on English Wikipedia then your best approach is probably to choose a new name that will be acceptable there (see en:WP:U, specifically the parts about the name representing an individual and not a company) and then submit an unblock request as explained on en:User talk:Zanjar Records. --bjh21 (talk) 12:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can’t print it out

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The resource is how to get your stuff, but our resource is like a resources about like getting stuff at the printer without printing it and I just wanted to know if that will work for me Else, but if it does, I’m like so impressed cause they never worked for me and you know if you just I’m scared I know like I don’t know I’m saying I’m scared but it’s fine but I was like for an hour and an hour. I don’t know so like, I’m just confused. I’m not here for hours and hours. Can you get one thing before like anything like I mean anything it’s like anything like like like so like I went to the store to let go just make some I don’t know what is called, but it’s like compost spda and it was crazy there everybody was like a big line and then I was so literally and then my mom said you can go upstairs. I can’t wait that long and then I was crying so bad because like I wanted but crazy but I’m fine. I got it printed out now but it just got so crazy. I’ll tell you the rest later. Bye peace out bro peace out, bro. 2600:1700:21F9:CAE0:E554:CC5:9AAC:A0F7 04:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Password change problem

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Last night, I was emailed that someone had logged in to my account from a new device, an action I did not do. I have tried to change my password on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword multiple times. But when I click the blue “Change Credentials” button, it just brings me back to that same page, without any confirmation that my password was changed. As a result, I cannot change my password. Can you please fix this? I’m concerned that whoever logged in to my account last night can possibly lock me out. Thank you in advance for your help. Cdsal 99 (talk) 16:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cdsal 99. I am taking a huge stab in the dark here but I see you are on mobile, try clicking the "Desktop" link at the far, far bottom of the change password page and trying the process again. Commander Keane (talk) 01:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Commander Keane, it worked. Problem solved. Thank you! Cdsal 99 (talk) 18:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Making an election map that can be uploaded to wikimedia

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Hello, I was thinking of making an election map depicting the results of a local election. I found the official ward boundaries of the council through the council’s official website but I have no idea on where to start. Is there special tools on Wikipedia/wikimedia that simplifies the process of making them? Any help on the topic would be appreciated Titanciwiki (talk) 17:13, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Titanciwiki: Is there an existing public-domain or free-licensed map of the relevant area already on Commons? If so, start from that. If not, it would sure help if you would say where you are talking about. No, there are no special tools, the graphics tools for making images here are the same as for any other site. - Jmabel ! talk 19:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright thanks! I was specifically referring to the Elpitiya Divisional Council (also known as the Elpitiya Pradeshiya Sabha) as an election was held there recently. The specific ward map found online was found here: https://elpitiyaps.lk/area-map/but I do not believe its in the public domain. What graphic tools are avalible to make an election map that can uploaded to wikimedia. Titanciwiki (talk) 20:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Titanciwiki, on Commons, I found Commons:Map resources and the Wikipedia page w:Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Resources/Tutorials has some tips, including a maps section. Commander Keane (talk) 20:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you upload a Getty Images image onto Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons?

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It's of Judy Garland. Lobods123 (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generally not: Getty Images retains full copyright on almost all of their images. See COMMONS:LICENSE. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:53, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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i want to upload school logo and photos Davidchaple5 (talk) 05:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Davidchaple5: most school logos aren't eligible for Commons, because they are copyrighted either by the person who designed the logo or by the school, and the owner of the copyright won't issue a free license. However, some are old enough or simple enough to be in the public domain. If you can link a page showing the logo in question, someone can probably tell you whether the particular logo is eligible (though if it is a tricky case you are more likely to get an answer at Commons:Village pump/Copyright).
Photos: if you took them yourself, and they fall within Commons' scope, you can upload them just like any other photos. For beginners, I usually recommend Commons:UploadWizard. - Jmabel ! talk 14:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are concerned about copyright AND thre is an artcile about your school on Wikipedia, then upload it as a non-free image on WIkipedia and incorporate it into the article. I did this with my old school and a few years ago, I saw that the school had copied the image that I had posted for their own use! Martinvl (talk) 18:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Martinvl and Davidchaple5: that would be good advice for the English-language Wikipedia, but each Wikipedia has its own policies with reference to non-free content. - Jmabel ! talk 19:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading a photograph taken of a town in Iraq that was posted on an Iraqi Facebook page -- as well as general info regarding photos taken in Iraq

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Hello, there is a photograph of a town in Iraq i would like to upload. The photo was published to an Iraqi Facebook page and it is the only instance of this photograph I could find on the internet. There is no information presented regarding who took the picture and when.

Are photos taken in Iraq & posted on Facebook okay to be uploaded & added to a Wikipedia page? I read this article -- en:Wikipedia:Using foreign images on Wikipedia -- but it wasn't very clear if images published in Iraq have copyright.

There are also other images published by organizations founded & headquartered in Iraq that I would like to use. Parzillum (talk) 21:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Parzillum. You'll find more details about this in Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter#Internet images, but generally every photo you find online that you didn't take yourself is not going to be OK to upload to Commons unless you can obtain the COM:CONSENT of its copyright holder. In general, the person who takes a photo is considered its copyright holder, and it's this person's consent that Commons needs. Many websites host photos taken by others and many people upload photos to websites that they didn't take themselves; so, it can often be tricky to figure out the en:provenance of a photo found online. While such things might be OK for other websites, it's not OK for Commons. So, if you unable to determine who actually took the photo, you could try asking whoever operates the website if they know, or you could try a en:reverse image search using something like en:TinEye to figure out its provenance. If you're still unable to find out more information about its provenance, you probably should look for a different photo whose copyright status might be easier to verify. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:44, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Parzillum, you can read about Iraq's copyright laws at Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Iraq.
If you can't figure out the provenance as Marchjuly explains, another option could be to request for a Wikimedian to take a new, freely licensed photo. If it is an English Wikipedia article place the {{Photo requested}} on the article's talk page. Instead, on Commons we have Commons:File requests. Good luck. Commander Keane (talk) 01:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative works, confusion

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From reading the FAQ and help pages, my understanding is that an unembellished photo of an artwork (eg: a contemporary artist's sculpture) is considered a derivative work and cant be uploaded here. Yet I've seen a number of photos of art that have only a CC license from the photographer. Are those photos not supposed to be here? Can I not use them in Wikipedia? Thanks! Tsavage (talk) 05:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tsavage: Derivative works can be uploaded to Commons, but there at least two (and sometimes more) copyrights that need to be taken into account. Many countries do this for you by adding freedom of panorama provisions to their respective copyright laws in which the country states that publicly displayed works of art (2D or 3D) may be freely photographed without worrying about infringing on the copyright of the artist who created the work. Some countries, however, do place restrictions of such photographs and give precedence to the rights of the artist over the rights of the photographer. For this reason, many of the photos of statues or sculptures you find on Commons are of works either located in countries which allow such photographs to be freely taken or are of works that are no longer eligible or never were considered eligible for copyright protection for some reason. Ideally, a file such a this should have two licenses (one for the photo and one for the photographed work), but unfortunately the latter is often not provided because many people just seem to assume the photo is the only thing eligible for copyright protection.
Of course, you will, if you look hard enough, find photos of copyright works that shouldn't have been uploaded to Commons in the first place, and these files end up being discussed and sometimes deleted when they're found; however, finding them isn't always that easy and usually a bit of luck is involved. You often see this with Flickr images uploaded to Commons because most people and most bots automatically assume the Flickr license is all that matters when it comes to Commons regardless of whether it's correct. Anyway, if you come across one of these and know enough the add the missing license, feel free to do so. If not, you could always ask about it here.
Finally, using Commons photos on Wikipedia should, in principle, be OK because Commons is only supposed to host files that are licensed in accordance with COM:L and en:WP:COPY#Guidelines for images and other media files; however, you probably should avoid using anything that you strongly suspect of being incorrectly licensed (either by mistake or by intent) basically for the reasons given in en:WP:COPYLINK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Practical confusion cleared up! For my own curiosity as to "how things work", say there's a photo of a publicly displayed statue, taken in a freedom of panorama country, uploaded by the photographer with a CC license but no artist license (citing the panorama provision), and used as-is in an en.Wikipedia article, and a copyright dispute somehow arises. Where is that likely to come from, and how would it be remedied? I'm looking for only a broad strokes idea of the real-world situation. Cheers. Tsavage (talk) 17:54, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tsavage: In many cases on en.wikipedia, a photo of a sculpture would be used in an article about the sculpture itself or about the sculptor and the photo would be used with substantial commentary about that sculpture or about the style of the sculptor. That would be a "fair use" of the sculpture and there would be no dispute if the sculpture is not misleadingly presented as freely usable (the file description would display a "non-free use" tag). In contrast, your question poses a case where en.wikipedia (or Commons) would use a photo of a copyrighted sculpture without any context that could justify its use. Then a copyright complaint can come from whoever owns or manages the copyright of that sculpture, for example the sculptor or an agency that manages the copyright for the sculptor. Several paths of action are available to them to demand remedy. One possibility is that the copyright holder sends a takedown notice to Wikimedia and then the remedy is that Wikimedia deletes the photo. You can have a look at this example. The discussion has probably more than you wanted to know about that topic and about the incongruities of Commons. (I did not remember that I wrote a comment about the DMCA in the subsection "Dutch FOP".) -- Asclepias (talk) 22:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tsavage: The freedom of panorama would have to be for statues (the US doesn't have that, only for buildings). In what country do you anticipate taking photos of statues?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeff G. and Tsavage: as far as I know, there is no case law about a sculpture that is still in copyright in the U.S., that is photographed in a country other than the U.S., is covered by Freedom of Panorama in that country, and is then published in the U.S. It is perfectly possible that a court could rule that such publication would violate U.S. copyright law.
We definitely do not have a firmly decided policy on whether such images are acceptable for Commons. We have more of a de facto approach:
  1. We allow such images on Commons, despite the possibility that they might eventually be deemed to be violation of U.S. copyright law.
  2. Any time we receive a DMCA notice for such an image (I'm only aware of one such case, though; multiple images, but one sculpture), we delete the image.
There are definitely a few users who object strongly to the former as skating on thin ice in terms of U.S. copyright law. My assumption is that if WMF Legal thought it was a serious risk, they'd have told us by now. Conversely, it is very likely that we would have at least a minor rebellion from de-wiki in particular if we were to change this approach: to them, FoP is pretty much a given. - Jmabel ! talk 17:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tsavage: The various language Wikipedias and Commons are separate projects with their own respective policies, guidelines and communities. Since Commons is mainly concerned about the copyright status of the content it hosts, the file you seem to be describing is most likely going to be OK to keep for the reasons given above by Jmabel. Whether that file ultimately ends up being used in some Wikipedia article, however, depends on that Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and how its community wants to apply them. For example. any file found on Commons should, in principle, be OK to add to an English Wikipedia article, but image use isn't automatic and often is determined by local consensus. Sometimes the local consensus is to not use an image regardless of what's happening here on Commons. A recent example of this, for reference, can be found here involving a local consensus established here. So, if you come across an image like the one describing and you think it shouldn't be used, you can be en:WP:BOLD or en:WP:CAUTIOUS. If you're bold and someone adds it back, you're probably going to need to sort things out through discussion on the article's talk page or at en:WP:FFD. Before you're bold, though, you might want to check the article's page history and the file's page history to see whether its use had been previously discussed. If a consensus has already been established that the image is OK to use, then it's probably better to be cautious and seek a new consensus to remove it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Request

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Buenas, como elijo 2 o 3 imágenes (nominar) para el Deletion Request? AbchyZa22 (talk) 07:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No estoy seguro que entiendo. ¿Es la pregunta como empezar un DR para dos (o más) imágenes? ¿o como decidir cuales fotos merecen un tal nominación? Para el primero, vea Commons:Deletion requests/es/Solicitud de borrado masivo. También, VisualFileChange puede ayudar. El segundo es demasiado complejo para un resumen breve. - Jmabel ! talk 03:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmabel:La primera fue que pregunte como empiezo un DR para 2 o más imágenes, eso a me refiero. AbchyZa22 (talk) 07:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Allowed to upload?

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Photo of front cover of a promotional leaflet for an exhibition in the 1930s. HandyRecorder (talk) 10:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HandyRecorder American? See Commons:Hirtle chart. Something else? Start at Commons:Copyright rules by territory. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A promotional leaflet would be singularly unlikely to have had its copyright renewed, so it's almost certainly OK, but if it had a copyright notice you will have to confirm the lack of renewal. - Jmabel ! talk 03:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I submitted the image of the leaflet and got the message below but I don’t understand what I need to do. Do I need to need to provide a valid copyright tag because it’s my photo of the leaflet, I.e do I need to add {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}}? I’m really struggling to understand the jargon and to know what to do to put it right! (P.S. Printed in UK)
Template:File license
HandyRecorder (talk) 06:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HandyRecorder: Hi, (n.b.: in your question, I replaced the full display of all the templates with a simple link to the message. It makes the question easier to read.) Considering that you took your own photo of a work that you did not create, the warning message may indeed be unclear on this point for a first-time user. In a case like this, the answer is no, you must not use a "self" licence, because it is considered that the simple photographic reproduction of a work does not generate a copyright. However, you must use a template that indicates the present copyright status of the original leaflet. In this case, an acceptable template could probably be PD-UK-unknown. You can add {{PD-UK-unknown}} in the licensing subsection of the description page of the file. -- Asclepias (talk) 13:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, this was an incredibly helpful reply. I think I have added the tag you suggested, though I confess that I don’t fully understand the process, so I may not have done it correctly. Fingers crossed? 🤞 HandyRecorder (talk) 14:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HandyRecorder: After taking a better look at the description, I note that the leaflet shows an illustration of an artwork (doll house) whose author died in 1933. An additional template could be added for that artwork, such as {{PD-old-auto|deathyear=1933}}. Also, although both the artwork and the leaflet are not copyrighted anymore in the UK, they might be still copyrighted in the United States (please see there), which places such files in a precarious situation on Commons. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Convenience link: File:Richold Exhibition Leaflet.jpg. Please, when discussing a particular file, link it! - Jmabel ! talk 17:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we know the publication date was no later than 1933, then even in the worst case it will be OK in the U.S. in 2029 (1933 + 95 + 1). We might have to delete it for a few years and restore it then. I'm honestly not that interested in working it out myself, but someone else can pursue it if they like. - Jmabel ! talk 18:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actual Photo

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Hello, I have the actual photo in a frame of the team in 1949 that I would like to upload, would this count as copyright or anything? KelsallFootballClub (talk) 16:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KelsallFootballClub: Most photos from 1949 are still copyrighted, but what country? Who was the photographer? Was the photo published and if so when? - Jmabel ! talk 03:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply, the photo was taken in the UK, in 1949 for an amateur football team, the photographer is unknown. All I have is the actual photograph in a frame. KelsallFootballClub (talk) 10:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The odds are enormous that the photographer was still alive in 1954, so it would presumably still be copyrighted in the UK. Also, assuming it was immediately published (distribution of numerous copies would count) it would be copyrighted in the U.S. through 2044. So I don't think we can allow it without tracking down the photographer's heirs and getting their permission. It is basically an orphaned work. - Jmabel ! talk 18:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@KelsallFootballClub: On the other hand, if the photo was work for hire (that is, the photographer was working for the club), the club could release the photo via VRT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 18:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If there has been a proper search (offline) and the photographer cannot be traced, it would be public domain in the U.K, but restored by URAA so under U.S. copyright until January 1, 2045. Abzeronow (talk) 18:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DELET THIS PAGE

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File:AIK RAMZ THE POETOFPAIN IMG jpg.jpg DELET THIS PAGE PLEASE Anzarfayaz0 (talk) 17:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Anzarfayaz0: Hi. File:AIK RAMZ THE POETOFPAIN IMG jpg.jpg was deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:AIK RAMZ THE POETOFPAIN IMG jpg.jpg. It used to redirect to File:Man sitting at table, his hand hides his face.jpg, which was deleted per COM:CSD#F10. Please see COM:DP and avoid using ALL CAPS, it appears like shouting.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove the image for Jeju Dream Tower

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Hello, this is Younga Song from Jeju Dream Tower Marketing team.

on behalf of Jeju Dream Tower please remove the image below as this contains unofficial image and information.

File:제주드림타워.jpg

as we are seriously concerned if guests misunderstand from this image, please kindly ask to remove this image from website.

I will look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you. Younganda14 (talk) 05:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've nominated the file for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:제주드림타워.jpg; so, there's nothing really to discuss here. For reference, though, the reasons you're giving for requesting the file be deleted aren't really valid, but what does matter is that South Korea only allows for limited (i.e. non-commercial) freedom of panorama for buildings per COM:FOP South Korea and this seems too restrictive for Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problem uploading files to Wiki wizard

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When I try to upload images to the wizard an error message appears but not showing where the error is Dimmic99 (talk) 20:26, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dimmic99, you seem to have successfully uploaded files after you posted this, has the problem gone away?
If the problem still persists can you describe which step the error occurs in exactly? Commander Keane (talk) 22:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is a letter someone created allowed?

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So, someone on the internet that goes by the reddit username zippee100 created 4 versions of the letter ⁊; Double ond(and, end, ind, ond, und, ynd), Triple ond(and, bnd, cnd, dnd, end, fnd, gnd, hnd, ind, jnd, knd, lnd, mnd, nnd, ond, pnd, qnd, rnd, snd, tnd, und, vnd, wnd, xnd, ynd, znd), Quintuple ond(and, ænd, oand, bnd, cnd, dnd, ðnd, end, ənd, fnd, ɟnd, gnd, ȝnd, ᵹnd, ꟑnd, hnd, ⱶnd, ɥnd, shnd, thnd, dhnd, θnd, ind, jnd, knd, lnd, mnd, nnd, ŋnd, ξnd, ond, œnd, pnd, ϻnd, qnd, rnd, snd, ʃnd, ⵋnd, tnd, þnd, ꟓnd, ϡnd, und, vnd, wnd, ꟃnd, φnd, xnd, ψnd, ωnd, ynd, znd, ʒnd, ⁊nd, &nd, ƿnd, ꟕnd) and Quindecuple ond(all unicode characters). Am I able to upload these new ⁊ variants? Visaa11 (talk) 00:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see where it would be in scope. Letters/typeforms don't have copyright in the US, so it would probably be out of copyright, but I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
double
triple
quintuple
quindecuple Visaa11 (talk) 03:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do I identify the location of my uploaded files?

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Are my uploaded files stored in an identifiable location? Can I store them in my sandbox"? Or? MarkWHowe (talk) 02:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MarkWHowe: I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, because I think you've got a false premise there somewhere.
  1. The files are stored on WMF's servers. meta:Wikimedia_servers#Hosting gives a rundown of where those are located.
  2. Each file has a file page, that can be referred to either by a URL and can be accessed by an "internal link" here on the wiki. For example, your uploaded picture of Isaac B. Howe at age 31 is at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Isaac_B._Howe_1858_at_age_31.jpg; a version intended for mobile devices is at https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Isaac_B._Howe_1858_at_age_31.jpg; but if you are referring to it on Commons, you would normally use an internal link: File:Isaac B. Howe 1858 at age 31.jpg (go into edit mode to see what that looks like) which will resolve appropriately for both a PC and a mobile device.
  3. You can find all of your uploads at Special:ListFiles/MarkWHowe. You can get to that page by clicking the "uploads" link on any page while you are logged in. For most skins, that is near the upper right of your browser screen. You can also (while logged in) get to that page by navigating to the URL https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyUploads.
  4. Sandbox pages are normally intended as throwaways, and are usually not a good place to link anything you would expect to keep track of in the long term.
I hope somewhere in there is the answer to your intended question. If not, the please be more specific. - Jmabel ! talk 02:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, #3 is precisely the answer to my question, altho' I haven't tested it yet. Thank you! MarkWHowe (talk) 15:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong photo

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My dad was Charles Herbert Smith known as herb an all black in 1934 .My family are trying to put together some of his information and the photoagainsthsnameisothimAll thenfrmatonis my dad but that is not his photo. He was not Māori how can this be corrected please Thanks daughter Winsome June Marshall 115.189.98.127 08:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I can see a possible error. For the benefit of other helpers we are talking about File:Charles Herbert Smith.jpg whose source matches the photo but says "Rugby player, possibly Hawea Karepa Mataira". Pinging @Materialscientist, the uploader. Commander Keane (talk) 08:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source also says "Subject of photographer no longer considered to be Charles Herbert (Herb) Smith based on information provided by a family member. Original identification was based on the photographer's inscription on the negative. Title and description updated 17 April 2023." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the photo from en-WP and wikidata. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing this out! Would you be able/interested in providing Commons with one or more correct images? There is some pain-ass bureaucracy to deal with, but we'll try to guide you. The first step is probably to register. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is "Charlie Smith" in that link him? If so, I think we can use it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Карта

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Оглядова карта етніческіх земель українців 1915р Степана Рудницького Serhii Kaulko (talk) 15:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Using google translate, I don't see a question. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Карта

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Оглядова карта етніческіх земель Українців 1915р. Serhii Kaulko (talk) 15:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do you change what goes in the author line for an image?

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File:BenjaminFranklinBridge.jpg

This is the image that I am referring to. This is my own photo that I uploaded.

I want to change what it says in the author section of the summary for this image. Currently it just says my account name and a link to my page. I was wondering if it would be possible to change what it says in this line so that I can add my actual name and then also have my wikipedia page link next to it. Please help, I am very confused after trying to figure out how to do this myself. I also do not really understand how any of this works so as simple and beginner-friendly of an explanation as possible please. Pynaps (talk) 19:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pynaps: on the file page, you can edit just like any other wiki text. - Jmabel ! talk 21:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do I do this? I have never edited anything on wikimedia or wikipedia before. Pynaps (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pynaps: You are editing right now as you engage in this conversation. - Jmabel ! talk 23:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you asking also how you would link to your English-language Wikipedia user page? Assuming it is the same user name, [[:en:User:Pynaps]]. - Jmabel ! talk 21:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmabel@Pynaps, I believe that the real name is wanted to be displayed on the file page rather than the user name "Pynaps". I guess you could click [edit] on the file page's Summary section and replace:
  • "|author=[[User:Pynaps|Pynaps]]", with
  • "|author= Jane Doe ([[User:Pynaps|Pynaps]])"
using the source editor.
I am not sure about the policy/best practice on this. But it sounds ok. If you want help you could ask here and someone will probably do it for you Pynaps. Just supply your real name (but consider privacy implications first). Commander Keane (talk) 23:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or "|author= ([[User:Pynaps|Jane Doe]])" which is the equivalent of what I do on mine.
Also, if you are concerned with how you are attributed, you can add author explicitly to the {{Self}} template (which I always do). E.g. mine is "{{self|cc-by-sa-4.0|author=[[User:Jmabel|Joe Mabel]]}}". - Jmabel ! talk 23:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading image posted by a government "head" on IG

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hello there! The Vice prez of India uploaded this image on the official Instagram account of VP. So is it considered public domain under GODL.? Can we upload such images to commons? ~redmyname31~💬 20:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Redmyname31 we are talking about Commons:Copyright rules by territory/India and {{GODL-India}}. I am not 100% sure in this case so I will defer to others. Do we know any more details about the image? Who took it etc. Commander Keane (talk) 23:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In general, this sort of question is better asked at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 23:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Jmabel
Thanks for the heads up, I posted the question there, but I'm not getting any response. ~redmyname31~💬 15:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with text in vector image (made manually in Inkscape)

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Greetings. Recently I have uploaded this file to Commons, but after I did it I noticed that there is a mistake in the image, where a text appears in the wrong place. However, the file on my device shows the correct placing of the text, and if I click the image in Commons, it shows how it's supposed to look like. Why is this error happening? Does it have to do with the original SVG file? How do I fix it? Thanks to whoever may respond. SamuelInzunza (talk) 03:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SamuelInzunza, does Help:Inkscape#Text_font_problems help? Commander Keane (talk) 04:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this could be a libsvg problem because the bitmap image is wrong but the svg works Anthony2106 (talk) 13:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help! I managed to solve the problem by converting the text into a path in Inkscape. SamuelInzunza (talk) 18:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Here - Need guidance about uploading own photos (that do appear elsewhere)

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Hi, I work with ABC News and have a portfolio available online. I have just uploaded a photo to kind of test the waters about what I can/cannot upload. The photo I uploaded appears on the Disney website (Available here: https://www.dgepress.com/abcnews/search/149938_148CR.jpg/) but it is freely licensed with attribution.

The photo I uploaded, could it be used on Wikipedia (which is what I want) or does it violate some policy?

Thanks ~~ HeidiGphotos (talk) 11:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HeidiGphotos: Thanks for offering your picture(s). As a professional photographer, you should confirm the free license via COM:VRT. Yann (talk) 11:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HeidiGphotos The page you linked to says "© 2024 Disney. All rights reserved." Nowhere is it indicated that it has license acceptable on Commons, see Commons:Licensing#Well-known_licenses. Also, the meta-data of your upload says "©2018 American Broadcasting Companies, Inc. All rights reserved." Like Yann said, you need to show you are the copyright holder via COM:VRT. The blue button at Commons:Volunteer_Response_Team#Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries should work in your case. We're very careful about copyright around here, but that doesn't mean we don't want your pictures! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Given that ABC Inc. claims explicitly that it is the owner of the copyright on this photo, and given that you published the file here on Commons under a claim that you are the owner of the copyright, and those two claims are contradictory, in a case like this you should make a convincing demonstration that the copyright claim by ABC Inc. is false and that you are the real owner of the copyright. You might check the terms of your contract with ABC Inc. and quote them if necessary. Also, please note that the permission on the Disney wbsite is limited to certain categories of persons and limited to certain categories of uses. That is not freely licensed. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
N.B. In broad strokes, Disney owns ABC, so this may be fine. OTOH, I see no evidence of "freely licensed with attribution" and Disney is know to be litigious.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading a YouTube video with wrong license but with permission from the uploader

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A mate of mine recorded a video of him pointing to other people dressed as Spider-Man (like the meme) this video. I wanna upload like 20 seconds of it but he uploaded it with the YouTube license, so I asked him if it was fine and he said it was. I asked him to put proof on his user page and told him people would be able to do anything with it and he was fine with it but he didn't read commons license 4 I sent him. He also said I could upload this photo but your just gonna haft to believe me because he didn't say it on his user page. is "your just gonna haft to believe me" not good enough to upload something? and can I upload the video? Anthony2106 (talk) 13:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm afraid "your just gonna haft to believe me" is not good enough - when uploading copyrighted or copyrightable works that you did not create yourself, Commons needs proof that the original author/copyright holder explicitly agrees to free license the work. That can be done various ways including via email; see COM:VRT for details. Cheers and thanks for asking, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 14:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
is this proof enough for me to upload a video of his? Anthony2106 (talk) 14:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Anthony2106: No, there is no license specified. Can you have him contact VRT directly?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
after emailing VRT would they have him verify its him via him adding something to his YouTube talkpage? (or whatever yt calls it). idk if he knows how to email people his not good with technology, I could run it by him later it's really late, thanks Anthony2106 (talk) 14:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Anthony2106: Yes. Late in what timezone?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Anthony2106: I just want to make clear that the problem there isn't where he stated the permission, but the fact that he doesn't specify a license. Commons' requirement isn't for him to say who can upload, it's for him to say what license is granted. Once the correct license is granted, anyone can upload. So if it is more convenient than email to VRT, he can use a public-facing post from the YouTube account; it's just that the post needs to grant a specific free license. - Jmabel ! talk 06:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Anthony2106: Right. If he said that in an email message, please forward it to VRT and carbon copy him on the resulting message.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Image of Children on Commons

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File:Children of Punjab.jpg ('File' or 'Image')

This image depicts identifiable children who may not have provided consent for their likeness to be shared publicly. Since minors cannot legally consent in India, and due to potential privacy risks, this image may require review or removal under privacy guidelines.

We have no evidence that these children have knowledge where the picture/image was going to be used. It is still a privacy concern. VeritasVanguard (talk) 16:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, We thousands of such pictures on Commons, and {{Personality rights}} for your concerns. Yann (talk) 16:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikimedia Commons is not a social Media see Commons:NOTSOCIAL. All of the images of non notable persons especially children should be deleted.
Who would be at fault, if the file is misused, since We have no evidence that these children have knowledge where the picture/image was going to be used. were they to use their legal rights, wouldn't Wikimedia Commons have some responsibility if such were to happen. VeritasVanguard (talk) 17:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again: personality rights violations can be pursued as such, but U.S. law -- the relevant law for where Wikimedia Commons is hosted -- does not have any general prohibition against posting pictures of minors. - Jmabel ! talk 06:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"While it is true that there is no blanket prohibition in U.S. law against posting images of minors, particularly on platforms like Wikimedia Commons, this does not exempt the platform from obligations related to privacy, ethical use, and informed consent—especially regarding images of vulnerable populations, such as children under 13.
  1. International Law and Personality Rights of Minors: Given that these children are identifiable and from a non-U.S. jurisdiction (India), it’s imperative to consider both international privacy principles and personality rights.According to principles enshrined in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC)—to which India is a signatory—children’s right to privacy is fundamental, and their images should not be used without explicit, informed consent by a legal guardian.
  2. Lack of Informed Consent and Minor Vulnerability: In the U.S., while adults in public spaces generally have limited privacy protections, minors are treated differently under both common law and statutory frameworks. The Restatement (Second) of Torts, Section 652D supports that even those in public spaces may have claims if their likeness is widely distributed without consent in a manner that violates privacy expectations. Although Wikimedia Commons applies U.S. law, it is ethically and legally precarious to assert that young, non-consenting minors have effectively waived any rights to their images in an international public domain.
  3. Platform Responsibility and Liability Risk: Wikimedia Commons, as a U.S.-based platform, may still bear ethical and practical liability if these images are misused. Even with a Creative Commons license, platforms bear responsibility when the use of images, particularly those involving children, poses foreseeable risks. If these images are repurposed for unintended or harmful use, Wikimedia Commons may face reputational damage, potential legal challenges under evolving privacy laws, or compliance issues with new data protection frameworks like the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) and similar state laws that recognize the digital privacy rights of minors.
  4. Practical Precedent and Ethical Obligation: Wikimedia Commons has previously set precedents for image removal where identifiable minors are involved without verified consent, especially if they come from jurisdictions where their capacity to consent is legally nullified. The presence of numerous similar images on Commons does not negate the ethical responsibility to protect vulnerable populations and honor privacy requests. Upholding this removal request would align Wikimedia Commons with best practices in international digital ethics, as well as proactive compliance with emerging privacy norms worldwide.
In summary, the retention of identifiable images of minors without clear, verifiable consent poses both ethical and legal challenges for Wikimedia Commons. Removal of such images protects the children involved, honors international privacy principles, and aligns with the platform’s stated commitment to responsible content sharing." VeritasVanguard (talk) 10:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@VeritasVanguard: firstly, who are you quoting? This reads like ChatGPT/AI to me. To point 1, I trust User:Satdeep Gill has gotten the appropriate permission. To point 2, you quote Restatement of the Law, Second, Torts, § 652, which says "[o]ne who intentionally intrudes, physically or otherwise, upon the solitude or seclusion of another or his private affairs or concerns, is subject to liability to the other for invasion of his privacy". This photo doesn't look like an intrusion into a person's life to me. To point 3, can you quote a specific section of the CCPA? And to point 4, can you quote such a precedent? —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 12:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JSutherland (WMF): for their insights on this matter. Abzeronow (talk) 17:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

how can i delete or edit a file name please?

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Hello I made a typo when i added a file:

British producer Marc Mac of group 4her with records photo - 33.jpg (file)

Is it possible to delete this file and I will re-upload it OR is it possible to edit the photo file name please? thank you I&I22 (talk) 18:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the file for you (and notified you that we need the copyright holder to contact COM:VRT to verify permission.) For future reference, there is a tab that allows you to request renaming. Abzeronow (talk) 18:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
O that's great! thank you , I couldn't see that renaming tab. I will get the signed permission from the artist. i am helping him to correct his wiki article. Thanks again! I&I22 (talk) 18:30, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@I&I22 For future use, see Commons:File_renaming#How_to_rename_a_file. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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update company logo as my company logo is appear is old I want to upload the new logo Sujoy4wiki (talk) 08:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the update was done in wikipedia:Special:Diff/1254912399. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PDF book preview does not work

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After clearing the cache, the PDF media player shows the book, but when I scroll forward 4-5 times, the media player crashes. Then I have to clear the cache again and the book is shown again when I scroll forward, after 3-4 pages it crashes again. The whole thing repeats itself endlessly.

I consulted this thread but it was not helpful (Commons:Help desk/Archive/2024/10#PDF book preview does not work).

These two files are affected:

Emilian von Źernicki-Szeliga. 1900. Der polnische Adel und die demselben hinzugetretenen andersländischen Adelsfamilien. General-verzeichniss.pdf

Diecezja Częstochowska - Jan Wiśniewski (1936).pdf

Any solutions?

Thank you. Angel Miklashevsky (talk) 09:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Angel Miklashevsky: It appears your browser or device doesn't have enough resources to do that. Try restarting your browser and/or device.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 09:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just tried with another device and the problem remains. Have you tried to open the files and scroll down the pages? Angel Miklashevsky (talk) 11:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is Wikipediocracy Trustee "Zoloft" the Wikipedian Stanistani, a.k.a William Burns?

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See Category talk:Wikipediocracy for details. Martin Henderson 71 (talk) 17:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is this not inappropriate outing? - Jmabel ! talk 06:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Afaict, per [1] and [2], this might not be outing, or at least not WP:OUTING. Then again, it might be. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are only the statements by Wikimedia User:Stanistani stating that outside Wikimedia they are another pseudonym and a real name. Certainty would require reciprocal statements by those other sources that they are Stanistani. I suppose that the qualification of the situation depends if the statements by User:Stanistani are true or not. If they are true, freely provided self-identification is not outing. If they are false, it's not outing either but lies. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

my page

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how to do american English on babel

Willbill6272 (talk) 22:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As a native speaker, you can use en-US as language code. For different levels of proficiency, it's en-US-1 to en-US-5, though I guess non-native speakers wouldn't differentiate between British, American or other English. Actually, native speakers also don't really differentiate. It's not like it makes a practical difference with our work here. --rimshottalk 23:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thanks man Willbill6272 (talk) 23:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the Caption entry line not accept my text?

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Why does the Caption entry line in Wiki Wizard not accept my text? Mettacahonts (talk) 11:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mettacahonts: If you could be a bit more specific (what page? what where you doing? you can upload screenshots to imgur) that would be helpful. By the way, your upload was a copyright violation, which is not allowed here as Commons only accepts freely licensed content. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 11:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I tried to type in the Caption box nothing was happening. I did not release that I had to select ENGLISH to activate the box. I finally did solve that. The photograph I uploaded is a photograph that I shot in 1986 of a sculpture by Bonnie Rychlak. She asked me to upload the photo to Wikipedia for the page about her. I am the copyright holder of that image. 24.161.73.179 13:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mettacahonts: in that case can you please contact COM:VRT with details? —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 22:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading photographs which I personally own

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I am experiencing huge and seemingly intractable difficulty in trying to do what seems like it should be really straightforward. Perhaps I am doing something wrong but I cannot find any way around it. _______________________

I am the owner of a lot of old photographs taken for me at my request by friends. They have never been published anywhere before and I now want to upload some of them to wikimedia commons as public domain graphics.

I answered truthfully your questions as hereunder:

(1) This is someone else's work and is free to share. (2) I am then expected to know whether it is published under a free license or if its copyright has expired and what Creative Commons license this work was published under. I answered truthfully again that I don't have this information. As I have said, it has never been published under ANY license. (3) Alternatively, I can say that this work is not protected by copyright law and hence has no associated license. But then I am asked to enter a different license in wikitext format? How can I enter a `different' license it if has NO license at all? (4) I am then asked where I `found' the work. I again truthfully reply that the two photographs I am trying to upload are among several taken for me at my request by a personal friend (Mr Ronald Jones, sadly long deceased). It was clearly understood that from the beginning I owned the photographs (they were taken on MY camera) and could use them for any appropriate purpose, that I have subsequently edited both to crop and add names etc. and that I wish them to become public domain images. I also confirmed that the work does not include material restricted by copyright, such as logos, posters, cover art, etc.

At the end of all this I am repeatedly told that there is one error with the form above and that I must correct the error and try submitting again.

I have tried everything I can to no avail and desperately need help - please!!! Mikipede (talk) 13:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mikipede: If you did not take the pictures, we require permission from the person who did (strictly: from the copyright owner). Please follow the process at COM:VRT/CONSENT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And if they are older, it might be matter of the photographer's heirs, not the photographer. - Jmabel ! talk 16:57, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After re-reading: unless you are very old (like, considerably older than me, and I'm about to turn 70) it is a near-certainty that any previously unpublished picture taken in your lifetime remains copyrighted. (There are a few countries where that isn't entirely true, and you don't say what country you are in; if you provide that information, someone can say something more definitive.) Barring very unusual circumstances, that copyright would belong to the photographer or (in the case of the late Mr. Jones) the heir to the photographer's intellectual property. If you are in touch with that person, they can go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to grant permission. If not, you probably have no way to get an appropriate license for these photos. - Jmabel ! talk 17:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I'm new to Wiki procedures so I hope I'm replying in the correct way. If not, please let me know how to reply to you.
Firstly, many thanks for your reply. In answer to your questions, I'm in the UK and am coming up 81 years old in a few week's time.
It's hard to know where to start. Seeking permission from the guy who took the photos for me is impossible – Ron Jones and his wife both passed away a long time ago and I don't think they had a family.
But for me, the central point is that the understanding between us was always that the photos would be my intellectual property/copyright from day one, to be used as publicity material or in any other appropriate way. I simply asked an old friend to hold my camera and press the shutter button. It would not have occurred to me (or any other young person) that I needed my friend to put in writing whose photos they were – surely nobody ever does that? One of the photos is more than 53 years old and the other 46! It seems unbelievable to be told that I need permission to put my own old photographs into the public domain.
I'm very grateful to you for your advice. Where do I go from here?
Regards,
Mick Mikipede (talk) 12:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Andy. I previously sent this message by email. Apologies if that was the wrong way to do things.
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Hi Andy, I'm new to Wiki procedures so I hope I'm replying in the correct way. If not, please let me know how to reply to you.
Firstly, many thanks for your reply. In answer to your questions, I'm in the UK and am coming up 81 years old in a few week's time.
It's hard to know where to start. Seeking permission from the guy who took the photos for me is impossible – Ron Jones and his wife both passed away a long time ago and I don't think they had a family.
But for me, the central point is that the understanding between us was always that the photos would be my intellectual property/copyright from day one, to be used as publicity material or in any other appropriate way. I simply asked an old friend to hold my camera and press the shutter button. It would not have occurred to me (or any other young person) that I needed my friend to put in writing whose photos they were – surely nobody ever does that? One of the photos is more than 53 years old and the other 46! It seems unbelievable to be told that I need permission to put my own old photographs into the public domain.
I'm very grateful to you for your advice. Where do I go from here?
Regards,
Mick Mikipede (talk) 11:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You might take this to Commons:Village pump/Copyright for more expert opinion, but I believe that in the UK there is no way to orally transfer copyright. If you don't know who the photographer's heir was, you are probably stuck in the infamous "orphaned work" situation: there is a copyright, but you don't have any way to work out who owns it, so you have no way to get permission. - Jmabel ! talk 20:25, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to speak Pawnee language

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Native language of the Pawnee tribe TainoRedCloudCuret (talk) 15:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TainoRedCloudCuret: This is a page for getting help with using Wikimedia Commons (the web site you are on), and I can't see how we can help you here. -Jmabel ! talk 17:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TainoRedCloudCuret. I think you want Wikipedia. Try w:Pawnee language. At the bottom of that Wikipedia article, in the external links section, is a link to a language program. Good luck. Commander Keane (talk) 21:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leningrad zoo poster

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Hi, is this allow to upload this poster on wikimedia? Author died in 1942, poster is in M.C. Berman Collection, i have seen that some of arts from this collection are uploaded, but im not sure i can do it with this poster. OzzyFromTheOuterSpace (talk) 17:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK for posters from 1928 and before. For 1929 posters, you should wait for 2 months. For 1930 posters, you should wait until 2026. Yann (talk) 17:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much :) OzzyFromTheOuterSpace (talk) 17:57, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete page

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i accidentally translated a page into the wrong language how do i delete it? Antsint (talk) 21:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Antsint: You haven't made any contributions other than this, are you sure? What page, and when? Can you upload a screenshot to imgur? —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 22:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://pdc.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelische_Apartheid
I selected deitsch as target language insted of deutsch(German) Antsint (talk) 22:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Antsint: Firstly create a page at w:de:Israelische Apartheid and copy paste the contents from w:pdc:Israelische Apartheid. Once you do that let me know. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 17:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SVG display

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I recently uploaded an SVG file here. I checked it with https://validator.w3.org/ and it says the file is okay, but the image is not displaying correctly. When I visit the image page as linked, the five black half-characters on the yellow field display as half-asterisks, stars, etc. However, when I click the image to see the file directly, it displays just fine. What's going on here and how can it be fixed? Matt Deres (talk) 23:16, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A logo reading "CELTS"
First off, thanks for your contribution. Secondly, when I view the image directly, it is still malformed, just in a different way. :/ Third, while almost all SVGs seem to render correctly, sometimes they seem to not and sometimes that only is a problem with thumbnails and not when viewed directly or embedded into a page for some weird reason. Unfortunately, I personally am not smart enough to figure out what's going on and there may be nothing we can do here, so it may be necessary to file a bug at phab:. I give this semi-answer just in case no one else actually solves the problem in a timely fashion and you can at least have a next step to follow and aren't left hanging. Sorry that that is only somewhat helpful. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, the CSS edit I just made removes the dingbats from the file, at least. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes - thank you - though now the letters do not line up correctly. In case it's not clear, this is the file I was working recreate in SVG. Matt Deres (talk) 03:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I'll do that. I've contributed to Wikipedia for almost twenty years so this shouldn't surprise me, but it does: we still really do make it difficult for people to help. I'm still just starting out on vector drawing, so it took an hour or so to make the image, but I've spent more than that navigating the conflicting demands and peculiarities of adding an image to Wikimedia. Your kind assistance is the stuff that makes it worthwhile. Thank you. Matt Deres (talk) 03:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Matt Deres I haven't looked at the source code for your svg but does it use fonts at all? If made with inkscape Help:Inkscape#Text_font_problems may be relevant, it leads to Help:SVG#Fonts. Sorry if I am off base with this suggestion. Commander Keane (talk) 04:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are fonts - well, a font: Impact. Oddly enough, both halves of the text were done identically, so there's no particular reason why half would work and half would not work. Matt Deres (talk) 15:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Matt Deres, I don't see Impact in the supported list, called "raw list" at Help:SVG#Fonts. Given the text is unlikely to change or need translation you could convert text to paths in your svg editor and see if that fixes it. About 16 years ago I had that issue with Mediawiki renderer. Commander Keane (talk) 21:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the pointer. I thought the remnants of the font were wiped out when I chopped the letters up to do the colour break, but maybe not. I will double check. My skill level is still pretty low, so I have a tendency to blow stuff up when I try fixing them, but who knows? :-) Matt Deres (talk) 21:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BlankMap-World.svg

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Is there a place where I can discuss changes to BlankMap-World.svg? only talk page? or perhaps Graphic lab?-- Carnby (talk) 05:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Carnby: It looks like the talk page is extensive and active, so it would seem like a reasonable place to start. Since you don't mention the nature of the changes you are proposing, I have no way to say more than that. - Jmabel ! talk 20:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmabel I left a message on the talk page but nobody responded to me. It is not exactly an edit request, more a way to highlight—in human-editable plain text format—two former countries (East Germany and South Yemen).-- Carnby (talk) 20:39, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Carnby: Ah. You need to do a derivative work in any case, so why not just do the additional borders you need as part of that derivative work (and just not worry about this master file). - Jmabel ! talk 20:56, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmabel I can do it with Inkscape but I'm not able to make a human-editable plain text format derivative map, highlighting .dd and .yd, as usual.-- Carnby (talk) 21:19, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading my old photos

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Many years ago, a friend took some pics of me with my band because obviously we couldn't take them ourselves! I gave him my camera and he took the photos which were for use in publicity, posters, articles, etc. Now, after more than 50 years, I have tried to upload a couple to Wiki Commons as public domain but am told I need to get his permission. Firstly he and his wife died a long time ago so that's not possible but more to the point, I had his permission from the start. He agreed to take the pics for me to use. Nobody asks their friends to put their permission in writing! This is crazy surely - their must be a countless number of photos on Wiki taken by friends in exactly this way and none of them will have anything in writing. Please advise. Mikipede (talk) 12:27, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your friend probably has heirs. They can jointly issue a licence and send it to the Permissions Team. If there are no heirs, the state is the heir. In principle, the state as the heir could grant permission. However, I am not aware of such a case. The only thing to do then is to wait until the images become public domain. In many jurisdictions, this is the case 70 years after death, but the period can also be shorter or longer.
If you know that there are one or more images here for which there is no authorisation from the author and which are not in the public domain, you can submit a deletion request. The images will then be deleted and restored 70 years after the author's death. If the date of death is unknown, then 100 years after publication.
For future cases, it is advisable to ask the author of a work to publish it here during his or her lifetime or to clarify in a will what should happen to it after his or her death. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 17:45, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airai Bai photos

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Hello, I'd like to upload a photo of the Airai Bai, located in Palau, onto Wikimedia Commons. The structure was built in 1890, which I believe should make it public domain according to this page, but the structure was renovated around 1974-1976 to restore it to the original look. Does that renew the copyright on the structure? Palau also does not have freedom of panorama, but I believe if the 1890 date takes precedence over the 1970s dates, then it shouldn't matter since the building would be in the public domain anyway. Thanks so much! ananari (talk) 21:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]