Talk:2020 Summer Olympics

Closing Ceremony of the 2020 Summer Olympics

Tokyo, Japan – 2021-08-8

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Surfing finals

The two Surfing finals - both men's and women's were held at Tuesday, not at Wednesday as it's mentioned at event schedule.

Concerns and controversies section

That area mentions politics, it is not the Olympic games. When will Wikipedia administrator fix it? Selselumi20 (talk) 07:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20

Unfortunately politics pervades everything in life, even the Olympic Games, but I agree that this article should concentrate on the more positive aspects of the Games and less on the niggly distractions. The Concerns and controversies section needs cutting down considerably (and I notice someone has added a load of new stuff this morning...) but most of the information can be retained in the side article. I'll try to look at this later today, time permitting, but can't promise anything. Maybe someone else would like to help? Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:29, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

I would suggest that the section needs to be limited to one paragraph for each section in the main article if possible, i.e.

• para1: summary of ORGANISATIONAL ISSUES
• para2: summary of ENVIRONMENT / H&S CONCERNS
• para3: summary of POLITICAL & HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES
• para4: summary of ISSUES RELATING TO CEREMONIES
• para5: summary of ISSUES ARISING DURING THE GAMES

There should be no need to sub-divide into subsections (we currently have one level 3 heading: "Related to the Organizing Committee") and we should place a hidden note at the top asking people not to expand the section without visiting the other article first. Rodney Baggins (talk) 16:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

That sounds like a great idea. Some of the sections (ie the one about the Rising Sun controversy) are almost longer than the sections on the main controversy article, so it might be worth it to copy/paste some of it into the main article. I'll be willing to help out if needed. Either way, your suggestion looks great. Kaffe42 (talk) 16:37, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Rodney Baggins, Kaffe42 Thank you for the reply and suggestion. I can't find similar articles on 1998 and1972 Olympic games pages. I suggest deleting this section. If someone want to write it, it should be different page. And this page should be same sections as same as the past Olympic games pages. Other Olympic games pages focus on the games. Thank you for your support. Selselumi20 (talk) 17:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20

Rodney Baggins Thank you for the suggestion. However, as you might know, the Olympic Games don't allow any kind of political protests. So having politics section on this page does not match the Olympic charter. What do you think of it?

@Selselumi20 It doesn't matter that the Olympic Games doesn't allow it, because Wikipedia is not affiliated with the Olympic Games. Wikipedia just reports it. Anyway, I have been trying to significantly trim down the controversy section, and this is what I've come up with: User:Kaffe42/Olympics. Anyone should feel free to make any changes. If nobody has any objections by tomorrow, I will paste this into the controversy section. Kaffe42 (talk) 20:22, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Kaffe42/Kaffe42 Thank you for the reply and support! I've checked first paragraph so far. I've thanked your support, but there are a lot of information what you wrote. Is there same articles past Olympic games pages? In that page, it looks like there are issues what there are no relation with the Tokyo Olympic games. For example, I have no idea #6 link what the connection with this Olympics. And Seiko Hashimoto didn't say "I regret it and think I should be careful". Is that your translation? And the rising sun flag is not the imperial flag. It has been using for festivals as well even now.

Kaffe42/Kaffe42 Please add this issue as well. South Korean banner was banned by IOC.

@Amakuru/Amakuru Hello, I would like to ask your opinion. What do you think of this User:Kaffe42/Olympics page? I feel like it seems like it is maliciousness...

@Kaffe42: I am grateful that you've made some progress with reworking the section and will have a closer look at your sandbox later. It looks as if we need to tread carefully with sourcing and attributing information, per WP:VOICE, e.g. rather than saying "this happened" we should probably say "X news outlet reported that this happened" for the more sensitive issues (e.g. Rising Sun Flag ). ​I also want to check that anything we remove in this process is contained in the Concerns and controversies article so it doesn't go astray. Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:34, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for checking! I would like to add these issues. Issue1, Issue2, Issue3, Issue4, issue5, issue6 and Issue7. I think it would be fair. Selselumi20 (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20

@Kaffe42: Hello, I cannot login Selselumi20 somehow, so I just created another one. By the way, I haven't find those issues. Please check it Issue1, Issue2, Issue3, Issue4, issue5, issue6 and Issue7. Let's add those issues in the paragraph. Also, I recommend checking this article. https://www.newsdirectory3.com/japan-rising-sun-flag-allowed-to-be-brought-into-the-competition-venue-korean-sport-olympic-committee-ioc-promises-ban-japan-international-hankyoreh-japan/. Thank you. Selselumi2020 (talk) 11:34, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi2020 @Rodney Baggins: Hello, did you check it? Some of sentences look like it come from Twitter. I cannot find same articles in Japanese. So I think that suspicious parts should be remove. What do you think of it?

Podium sweeps

A couple of editors have objected to the podium sweep table. Perhaps it is a bit random and trivial for the main article. Maybe it could be included in the 2020 Summer Olympics medal table article instead? For consistency, this could be done for the other Olympics articles too. Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:34, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that the compromise of including the Podium sweeps information in the 2020 Summer Olympics medal table article and previous games' articles of its kind is fair. Deancarmeli (talk) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man and Sportsfan 1234: I've improved the podium sweep table by adding sources and intro text/wikilink. I suggest that the table could be moved out of the main article when the Games have finished (with tense change in intro text: "There were...") How does that sound? Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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Mistake in the medal counter for August 4th.

I made a count in how many medals there were today and saw that the wiki page had 27 medals, but then I found out 25 medals would be given. The mistake is in the Athletics section of the page, it should have 6 medal events but it instead has 8.