Talk:Growth of religion

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Hi Ramos1990, regarding "Believers in Christ from a Muslim background" report, I have reverted your edit, because it violates the requirement of neutrality to be considered as a reliable source. This report is based primarily on estimates of Christian missionaries and it was started by Patrick Johnstone who aimed to help Christians "preach" and "praying".--Averroes 22 (talk) 12:41, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I have to disagree on this because the source is from a peer reviewed journal from Baylor University [1]. Author affiliations are not what qualify reliable sources - its the amount of oversight that is provided by the presses that matters. it says, "Reliable scholarship – Material such as an article, book, monograph, or research paper that has been vetted by the scholarly community is regarded as reliable, where the material has been published in reputable peer-reviewed sources or by well-regarded academic presses." Also the policy also states, "However, reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective. Sometimes non-neutral sources are the best possible sources for supporting information about the different viewpoints held on a subject. Common sources of bias include political, financial, religious, philosophical, or other beliefs." which is what all the sources have on this growth of religion article - or any religion article for that matter. Full blown religious and non-religious people certainly publish in academic journals and no one has claimed them not reliable sources as long as they publish in academic journals.

Last time I checked the Interdisciplinary Journal of Research on Religion was a solid sociological journal. Also one of the authors is Duane Alexander Miller (St. Mary's University) so you cannot really pick and chose one author and ignore the other. For all of these reasons, I will restore.02:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Ramos1990 (talk)

I agree with Ramos1990's argument. The Interdisciplinary Journal of Research on Religion is a solid sociological journal. Also it the estimated numbers that the study gives that have been covered in reliable sources such as Journal of Democracy([2]), Hudson Institute ([3]), The New York Times ([4]), The National by Interest magazine ([5]), The Jewish Press ([6]), Newsweek ([7]), and other sources. Undoubtedly the source is a reliable source.desmay (talk) 15:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Problematic edits

In the last few days, User:Averroes 22 have been removing sources en masse, and making false statements that are not supported by citations. I have checked these and I found that his claims are false:

1. For example ([8]) he states "Most of what written here is not supported by the source"; if he bothered himself to check the source, he would have read that the source states ([9]): "Much of growth, moreover, has occurred quite recently, meaning since post-World War two decolonization across Africa and Asia, and since the historically Catholic countries of Latin America, lifted restrictions of Protestant activities a few decades ago". Can you explain to me how you concluded that the sentence is not supported by the source?.
2. For example (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Growth_of_religion&diff=next&oldid=1033331072) he states "The first source is an unreliable source, other sources do not support these claims"; the first source is published by the Interdisciplinary Journal of Research on Religion, and I made some random checks and I found that his claims are false: Here some of the sources that are easy to check that report Muslims convert to Christianity ([10]), ([11]), ([12]), ([13]). So it's not true that "other sources do not support these claims"; I restored the material with better sources
3. ([14]); the section is about Christianity and the sources state that modest impact on changes in the Christian population, why are you changing it to religions in general.
4. He keeps removing sources claiming ([15])

they are unreliable sources, even though there has been a discussion about this source ([16]), and other users agreed that NC Register is a reliable source.

1. Also you are still repeating the same false statement ([17]), even though many other users tried to explain for you the difference between a decline in numbers and the decline of expected growth. Christian population numbers are expected to increase by 2050 in absolute numbers, meanwhile it's expected that it may lose 66 million; learn the difference.

I'm busy these days, I hope some users will check his claims.desmay (talk) 13:35, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I think I am seeing this too. Thanks for being a second set of eyes on this as I have checked a few source myself and it looks like some of the stuff that has been removed does looks properly cited and in the sources. It passes WP:VerificationRamos1990 (talk) 16:22, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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