Talk:Teutons
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Mass Suicides?!?!
Even from the quote only 300 in that given conflict, commited suicide...
With respect to the Teuten / Tödden / Tattare: possibly there is a connection with the fact mentioned by Caesar in "De bello Gallico" (2,29), that the Cimbres and Teutons had left 6,000 men (then called "Atuatuci" bei the population of the region) to guard a part of their luggage in the region of Namurs. (Vittorio Ferretti, 07.03.07)
For this reason I would like to retain the comment on the possible link with these people
(Chris Geets, 07.05.30)
- Please consult WP:OR. According to this source tattare is derived from Tatars. Consequently there should be no connection.--Berig 17:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- I did some research on this, and I found that the connection between Tattare and Tatars is very dubious. The Tattare are a (despised) minority, and as such not well studied. They are associated with the Roma (gypsie) people, other times even with the Tatars, as you say, but also put apart as a seperate group of the Scandinavian wandering people. This being said, I have no special personal interest in the Wikipedia quality, and you can add/remove/modify articles as you like, I don't care. Db-inf 17:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- The problem here is linguistic. The modern Swedish and Dutch forms of Teutonic are not Teuten or Tattare, but Tysk and Duits. Consequently, there is not even a connection name-wise between the Teuten and the Teutones.--Berig 21:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I did some research on this, and I found that the connection between Tattare and Tatars is very dubious. The Tattare are a (despised) minority, and as such not well studied. They are associated with the Roma (gypsie) people, other times even with the Tatars, as you say, but also put apart as a seperate group of the Scandinavian wandering people. This being said, I have no special personal interest in the Wikipedia quality, and you can add/remove/modify articles as you like, I don't care. Db-inf 17:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- You seem to be very shure of the things you say, but other autors are more reserved about the origin and the commonness of the origins of the words Teuton and Deutsch. I suggest you do some research on this, or at least some reading. The current supposed ethymology of the word 'Teuton' in the Wikipedia article does not go beyond the level of the good willing village pastor with a hobby in local history. Db-inf 12:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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I've cleaned up the text to make it clearer, more direct and concise. I commented out a passage at the end, written by someone who hadn't read the article: it needs to be integrated with the text. ---- Wetman (talk) 21:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Indo-European Roots for "Teuton"
Teuta- [hard "a"] - Tribe. 1. Germanic *theuda- [hard "a"], people, with derivative *theudiskaz, of the people, in Middle Dutch duutsch, German, of the Germans or Teutons: DUTCH, PLATIDEUTSCH. 2. Suffixed form *teut-onos [hard second "o"], "they of the tribe," in Germanic trival name *theudanoz [hard "o"], borrowed via Celtic into Latin as Teutoni [hard "o" and "i"], the Teutons: TEUTON. 3. Latin *totus [hard "o"], all, whole (?<"of the whole tribe"): TEETOTUM, TOTAL, TUTTI; FACTOTUS. [In Pok. teu- [hard "e"] 1080.] Note: linguistic convention - astericks indicate reconstructed form not attested in documents. Tesseract501 16:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I deleted a paragraph
I deleted this paragraph:
- The Teutons appear in the video game Medieval 2: Total War's "Kingdoms" expansion as a playable faction.
As a matter of fact the faction the writer meant was in fact the Order of the Teutonic Knights, not the Germanic tribe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.32.212.189 (talk) 23:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)