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- Hello,
- Thank you for the message! The Wikipedia community is certainly a fun way to spend time. I appreciate the tutorial, and will take a look at it. I hope I didn't do anything to noobish on the superpower page that prompted this message.
- Have a great day! GeogSage (talk) 15:20, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- At a glance I didn't see any problems with it. Well-cited, clear expansion of the definitions and examples we already have. Of course someone else may have a different impression, but collaboration and discussion are what make the wiki go 'round. ^_^ VernoWhitney (talk) 17:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Capitalization
Links to technical geography shouldn't be in title case per MOS:CAPS; I corrected this in your recent edits. Thanks, Biogeographist (talk) 15:31, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm learning the format as I go. Appreciate the help/feedback. GeogSage (talk) 18:19, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Hello!
- Thank you for the welcome!
- I appreciate the links and advice!
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Wikipedia categories I originated
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:GeogSage&oldid=1131566743#Wikipedia_categories_I_originated - why as full/external links, not internal, do you know the method using ":"? E.g.:
Euro2023 (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Pure ignorance of the markup language. Thanks for pointing out, I'll fix that. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 19:06, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Problems in spatial analysis has been nominated for conversion
Category:Problems in spatial analysis has been nominated for conversion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. fgnievinski (talk) 02:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Soil Maps
I appreciate your work on categorizing. Soil map doesn't fit with geologic mapping, as reflected in the respective articles' content, neither mention the other. If a geographic map category was ever developed, I expect soil map would have a comfortable home there. Thank you for caring about soil topics. -- Paleorthid (talk) 19:33, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback and sorry for stepping on toes. As you said, just trying to clean up the categories. I'm currently trying to work out one along the lines of "Maps For Specific Applications" that could go either next to or under "Map Types." I don't know if such a category would be in line with what you are thinking of. Geologic mapping as a category would go under that category. I'll respect the argument that soil and geologic maps are distinct (I learned soil mapping from a geology department which is what made me toss it in there, but I can see how they are differnet) and I don't have a strong background in the mapping of either. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 20:26, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Cyber GIS
Hi, a week is not long enough to close a merge proposal with no participation. I'm not going to revert as I agree with it but if someone objects it may need to be discussed, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 00:12, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello,
- Thanks for the feedback and advice. In the future, you're right I might wait longer then a week, however I was following the instructions on Wikipedia:Merging that says:
| “ | During discussion, a rough consensus may emerge to proceed with the merger. Any user, including the user who first proposed the merger, may close the discussion and move forward with the merger if enough time (normally one week or more) has elapsed and there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge. | ” |
- On the Talk:CyberGIS page, I actually have posted on the talk page a few times. In December 2022, I proposed merging with WebGIS, but didn't get any feedback on either page and found one mention in literature where a major proponent of Cyber GIS uses the words "Internet and Web GIS," which would imply that it would Interent and not Web GIS. Reading a few more of their journals, and distributed looked like the safest bet (although I'm not a fan of the term after a deep dive into the literature on it). After the suggestion to merge in December, I made another post on the talk page in April about issues of verifiability, and neutrality. I also mentioned that the page needed to clearly establish itself in relation to the other forms of established GIS. That again got no feedback. On Talk:Distributed GIS I posted in December of 2022 on the need to clean up the page, and got no feedback.
- My experience with the two talk pages made me feel like I was yelling into the void a bit, and thus when I didn't get feedback (as expected) on a merger, I just went ahead with it after the minimum time on the Merging instructions page. Mostly, this was because it was still on my mind, and I didn't want to forget.
- I'm glad that you agree with the decision, however. Please make any adjustments or corrections you think might make the new section better. In the future, I'll wait a minimum of two weeks to allow proper discussion. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:17, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Original Barnstar |
| Nice job on George F. Jenks! I came across it while doing NPP. — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 22:15, 27 July 2023 (UTC) |
- Thank you! This is my first award, and it actually means a lot! I'm glad that you think the article is a good start, I'm really surprised as a professional geographer that Jenks didn't already have a page. He is mentioned all the time in classes, and cited in probably every cartography book published in the last 20 years.
- Thank you again for the recognition, and have a great day! GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 15:57, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Category:Four traditions of geography has been nominated for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Michael Peterson (geographer)
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- Hello GeogSage -- I've declined this immediate deletion request but some of the wording is way over the top with regard to what the source say. The subject is probably notable under WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR but book reviews especially of his sole-authored books, would be very useful, as would further sources independent of the subject. I'd also suggest pruning the list of visiting professorships to two or at most three most significant, and removing all the non-notable prizes ie probably all except the honorary fellowship. Hope this helps in improving this article. Espresso Addict (talk) 11:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll work to improve it. I have not met Michael Peterson and am not associated with him in any way besides sharing some overlapping areas of interest. I wrote this to help me with a literature review I'm working on more then anything, although I only made the page because I was surprised he didn't already have one. I have a few of his books on my shelf from undergraduate course work and such.
- The guest positions and awards were pulled from his CV and website bios, and agree can be cut down and summarized.
- The Honorary fellowship with an international organization, and several widely used textbooks, were the two main reasons I thought he passed WP:PROF. He has also held "head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area" in addition to being president of North American Cartographic Information Society. Although, the journal is not really "major," it is well-established and not insignificant.
- I will work to improve it, and appreciated any help/suggestions. One question I had though was on the book table. The award table was just me experimenting with the layout, but overall I thought tables to organize books was a good approach. Why is that not the case in your opinion?
- Again, thank you for the help! GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 16:23, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for stating that you don't have a conflict of interest here. One thing that might be generally useful to you, if you haven't already spent some time there, would be to look at AfDs on academics (delsort Academics & educators); it's very rare for someone with 2 or more single/small-group-authored research papers with >100 GS citns (except in some very high-citn fields) to be deleted. Also, an academic with at least 2 authored books with academic presses that have received multiple mainstream reviews is likely to get a pass under WP:AUTHOR. -->If the academic meets one/both of these criteria there's no need to stress about demonstrating notability.
- For PROF, the journal needs to be reasonably well known in its field; in practice, it must at least have an article (generally not just a redirect to the society), though I think this is one of the bullet points of PROF where there's less agreement about exactly what counts. The presidency does help, but I'm not sure whether a national society for a relatively niche topic would be enough to sway AfD discussions on its own.
- The tables definitely contributed to making it look promotional to me; I've never seen them used like that in academic bios before. Generally the books in the publications list should be split into headings for authored and edited. Discussing major books in the body with quotations from reviews is a good way of including reliable/independent opinions on the research of an academic who is still active. Hope this helps! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 23:15, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice and links! I'm appalled at the state of geography on Wikipedia, which I think is largely due to the lack of emphasis on it in public schools and the Ivy league schools in the US. So many high impact professionals, concepts, methods, etc. are completely absent in the project. This feedback will be helpful as I try to increase the representation of the leaders of geography research.
- The tables for publications is kinda something I've been trying for academics. In my opinion, the bios of a lot of academic authors that use bullets look lazy. I got the idea from the J. K. Rowling bibliography, and thought it would be good to give academic authors the same effort/format as other authors. In my opinion, the academic pages on Wikipedia would all benefit from being placed in a table format, rather then left as bullets. The awards table was on the recent page was excessive though, you're right. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 19:30, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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Unnormalized choropleth category
I don't know if this is directly relevant to that talk page discussion but I found this Commons page that I suspect will interest you, Category:Choropleth maps using absolute numbers. It's not comprehensive (it didn't include the country population map in question until I added it today) but it shows that at least one person on Commons has noticed and put some work into solving the same problem, and that it's much more pervasive than this one map. It looks like diaspora maps are especially guilty. I have other map-related projects I'm busy with at the moment but at some point I'll try to create alternatives to more things on this list and start replacing them. Justin Kunimune (talk) 14:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out! This restores a bit of sanity to me, the response to my attempts to remedy this have been disheartening. I'm considering how to put together a task force to specifically address misinformation in maps, but am in the process of figuring out the technical details. Will let you know when I do eventually get that together. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 06:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| For overhauling the discipline of geograhy at Wikipedia! gidonb (talk) 05:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC) |
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