Talk:JAG (TV series)

Characters of JAG Table

A significant improvement over the previous table for Judge Advocate Gererals, but still has room for improvement. It seems to outline the major characters of the series, but should be edited. For instance, why is Chloe Madison included? She has nothing in common with the other characters who appear in the table. Why is Coates in the table byt Tiner is not? Where is Lt. Simms? These are just some of the issues.Mdewman6 (talk) 16:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

The table shows all characters who were credited as main cast for at least one season. 02:44, 8 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.160.137 (talk)

Table for Judge Advocate Generals

I feel that the table of the judge advocates throughout the show provides irrelevant detail, some of the information is questionable, and overall detracts from the quality of the page. At the very least, it should not be located at the top of the article. It should be much lower in the article (well after premise) or be a separate page. Furthermore "Lieutenant" is mispelled throughout the right side of the table. Let's consider removing the table or at least moving it.

It may be jumping the gun, promoting Rabb to captain, since if I understood correctly, that'll only happen if he takes the transfer to London, leaving his daughter... —wwoods 05:47, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mdewman6 (talk) 21:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)I believe Rabb was frocked to Captain, meaning he was authorized to wear Captains insignia and actually "be" a Captain, but would continue to receive his Commander's O-5 pay. I don't think had a choice as to whether or not he would take the assignment in London, as he was reassigned, therefore he was promoted in preparation for his new post. The only "choice" he had was to resign his commission and not go to London. Regardless of how the coin-flip turned out, I think it's justified in saying the Rabb's highest rank achieved during the series is Captain.Mdewman6 (talk) 21:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Rabb has a daughter? --Spinboy 05:51, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, he was wearing captain's stripes at the end of the show on his mess dress uniform, but I was under the same impression, so it's somewhat ambiguous I suppose. Also, he does not have a daughter- Mattie is a girl for whom he was the court-appointed legal guardian for a time. Her father is a no good alcoholic. In the finale, Rabb says that he plans to petition the court to make him her legal guardian again, and that he would take her to London if he accepted the billet there. M412k 20:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

The Bud Roberts link on here redirects to....JAG. Seems like a vicious circle. As Bud has been present in the series since the first season (albeit only as a minor character in some episodes), should he have his own page?--Stretch 09:29, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Story arc

It seems to me that this article lacks a high-level overview of the broad story arcs through its ten series. —Theo (Talk) 15:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

True. Can someone point out some examples from other shows so that we know how much detail we need to go into when outlining the arc? --Stretch 12:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Citations needed for "Critical and media reception"

"Despite being a long running show with high audience ratings, JAG only attracted a modest share of media attention compared to other contemporary shows such as Alias, 24, and Sex and the City. One common explanation, mainly among conservatives, is that the established media has regarded the military in the post-Vietnam period with great amounts of contempt and disapproval. Others would argue the lack of attention is due to the show's standard melodramatic lawyer show themes, simply set in a military environment. Another explanation common among the fans is that JAG never received enough advertising by Paramount and CBS."

-Is there a cite for this? It seems a pretty POV-focused speculation. I know I personally heard quite a bit about the show, and I'd distinguish it from those shows listed only as being more associated with (and geared toward) an older audience. (In Season 5 of Scrubs, the protagonist imagines living in a small apartment with a group of decrepit elderly men- he berates them for filling the TIVO with JAG episodes.) AlekKolchak 00:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)AlekKolchak

I remember a few years ago reading an article at salon.com titled "A few sanctimonious men." That would probably take care of half the citation neededs, but unfortunately, now you have to sign up for premium access to look at salon.com's archives. Cromulent Kwyjibo 21:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Tracey Needham guest starred in season 3?

I'm not sure if Tracey Needham, who played Lt. (j.g.) Meg Austin in Season 1, returned as a guest star in a season three episode. Who did she play? Can someone verify this and list the specific episode or remove the statement if untrue? Mdewman6 (talk) 19:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Tracey Needham never returned to JAG after Season 1. That being said, archive footage of her was used in the episode "Death Watch". I don't know if you remember the episode, but it was basically mixing both old footage (from an unaired episode from the end of season one) and new. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.80.146 (talk) 17:18, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll add to Chart that JAG was aired as well in Mexico

If Editors don't mind I'll add this information. JAG was aired in Mexico in Spanish language version on AXN. With name as "Justicia Militar" 201.129.196.101 19:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC) Zealotkommunizma

Trivia Section - Reference in "Man of the Year" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_the_Year_%282006_film%29

Many articles have a Trivia Section where pop culture references made to the subject are listed.

In the Movie Man of The Year, it was referred to. Perhaps it should be included

DVD Release

A request for verification of the absence of special features on the R4 dvd release of the first season was made. I can confirm this is true - I own the DVD and there are no special features. However I don't have a citation; ultimately michael dvd will update this page http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Discs/Disc.asp?ID=20744 and we'll have a verifiable cite, but there isn't one yet Quadparty 08:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

The R2 release may also not have the special features. I haven't bought it (I'd already obtained the R1 version), but I inspected the R2 box in the shops, and no special features are listed on it. Can anyone who has it confirm this. (Play.com don't list any special features on their website either) Greenpeas 12:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Its producers were really sloths... Weren't they?

It depicts Peru, more precisely Lima, in a unrealistic way devoid of any knowledge of how Lima and Peru looks like. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.240.157.66 (talk) 01:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Know the feeling, that was the one they used loads of footage from "Clear and Present Danger" I think...JAG is a favourite of mine, but just re-watched the 2nd season Northern Ireland episode. Dressing up a New York street backlot to look like Belfast? RUC using black taxis with a blue light on? A black Jaguar saloon as an "undercover" police car? Even a red London bus?......Please try harder!!Greenpeas 12:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

And Serbs in pilot episode looks like Cubans. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.29.235.2 (talk) 07:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I could never watch the series without cracking up. There is absolutely no resemblance between the TV series and real life. JAG corps officers are lawyers. They work in offices, try cases, write legal briefs, and go home. They don't carry sidearms, fly planes, or chase spies. I used to work in a Naval legal office when this show began. The mother of one of the lawyers saw the show and panicked. She had no idea that her son was running around risking his life chasing bad guys. He told her, "Ma, it's just a show. I just sit at my desk and write briefs. I don't even have a gun!"99.0.37.134 (talk) 21:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

DVD charts & sales?

I was wondering if anyone has the sales and chart information for the DVD releases. I assume that the DVDs are selling well because the releases are so close together. I think it would be good to add sales data to the DVD section in the article. -- Underneath-it-All 05:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

CFD notice

Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 15:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Pulling rank

Since I've seen this controvesy elsewhere, let me put it to rest here: In A Few Good Men, Demi (Commander) ranked Tom (Lieutenant). On "JAG", they reversed it, so Harm (the star) ranked Mac (not). They were of equal rank, but Rabb had more time in grade, so he was senior. Trekphiler 10:01, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

At one point, when they were both O-4, that is true. But Mac was promoted to O-5 before Harm. Mac technically has more time in grade HOWEVER, Harm is technically her senior because he has time in service. Both are irrelavent because they are of equivalent rank. The only way one would be officially senior to the other is if their billet requires one of the to take precedence over the other thus becoming the senior officer. While Mac served as Chief of Staff this position did not make such a distinction. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.126.182.19 (talk) 08:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC).

Folks, Mac is senior. Remember, Tinner could not decide whom to charge for disobeying AJ's order to return home after Bud was injured; it was Singer who asked him who was Sr. and he said Mac.

In one episode, Admiral Chegwidden and Harm are having a conversation where the Admiral says something to the effect, "Mac is senior" and Harm replies, "By two months." I believe they were 0-4 (Lt. Commander and Major, referring to Harm and Mac, respectively) at the time. It is unclear if this refers to time in grade or length of overall service. While we know when Harm was promoted to Lt. Commander in season 1, we do not know when Mac became a Major. Mac was promoted to 0-5 (Lt. Colonel) before Harm was promoted to 0-5 (Commander) in season 5. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Why clean up?

As usual, whoever tagged this article for clean up didn't bother to give a reason why. Nothing jumps out at me that needs to be cleaned up. There are some things I would reword, but nothing major. Cromulent Kwyjibo 22:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [1]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 03:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

NCIS Spin-off: Characters

Should the spin-off section also recognize that Michael Bellisario was Mikey Roberts (Bud's little brother) in JAG, and also appeared as Chip Sterling (Abby's assistant) in NCIS? -Rianna (talk) 21:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

First Monday

It's a JAG'spin-off or a TV show in the same universe because I believe that there is same characters like the Dean Stockwell character from JAG?--Locusfr (talk) 01:14, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

jag

Jag is a slang for hyper activity and for partying. When one is jagged up or getting their jag on, they feel confident, energetic, excited, and or under the influence of alcohol or stimmulant drugs like ecstasy or cocaine. The term jag is usually heard in the club or party atmosphere. Usually people get their jag on at raves while under the influence of stimmulant drugs and while in dancing, this is when the person feels best and has feelings of euphoria.

This would appear to be completely unrelated to the topic of this article where JAG is the acronym for Judge Advocate General, but then I doubt this really is of interest to the above writer.

In Swedish, jag is the first person singular personal pronoun - eq. of English I. Yes, they used a different title around here... ;D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.254.151.33 (talk) 11:17, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Huh?

This article states: "For his actions, he received the Purple Heart" Not sure this is correct - for a gallantry award, the recipient would receive the medal "for his actions." But for a purple heart? His action was stepping on a landmine. He might have gotten a humanitarian award for trying to save the little boy's life (if such exists) which would be for "his actions," but the Purple Heart is just for being wounded in combat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.141 (talk) 12:55, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Bud Roberts and A. J. Chegwidden

Does anybody have the information on how these characters earned some of their decorations- eg Bud's Purple Heart etc. HJMitchell You rang? 22:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Bud got his leg blown off in Afghanistan at the end of season 8 (I think that's the right season). So I'm assuming that's why he has a purple heart. Darry2385 (talk) 23:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Bud got his leg blown off in the last episode of series 7. Greenpeas (talk) 10:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Admiral Chegwidden was a SEAL in Vietnam so he earned a number of his medals and ribbons then. In fact he wears the Vietnam Service Medal, the Southwest Asia Service Medal, the Vietnam Gallantry Cross Unit Citation, and the Vietnam Campaign Medal which all came out of his SEAL days. The Vietnam Service Medal has a single service star which indicates he participated in at least one campaign in Vietnam. The Vietnam Gallantry Unit Citation has a palm which means it's awarded at the armed forces level. He wears the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal which may be another Vietnam era award. According to the [[2]] on the AFEM it was awarded to military personnel involved in the war until '65 when the Vietnam Service Medal was created and those individuals who had received the AFEM could replace it with the Vietnam Service Medal. BUT in '68 was awarded in defense of the USS Pueblo after it's seizure by North Korea and for service in Korea. And the AEFM was awarded in '73 during operations in Thailand and Cambodia. Individuals who took part in the Vietnam War could thus earn both the AFEM and the Vietnam Service Medal for any of these. His trident should be obvious, he was a SEAL and that's a SEAL Trident. According to the character bio page after Vietnam Chegwidden transferred to surface warfare and ended up commanding an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer before joining the JAG corps so he could wear a Surface Warfare Officer's badge that he's not shown wearing. He's supposed to have become a lawyer in the '80s so unless he briefly pulled a Rabb and returned either to Surface Warfare or the SEALs during Desert Shield and Desert Storm (by pulling a Rabb I mean how Rabb returned briefly to being a pilot) I'm not sure why he was awarded the Kuwait Liberation Medal. Although maybe he was assigned as a JAG officer aboard one of the naval ships that took part in Operation Desert shield and Operation Desert Storm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.105.246.125 (talk) 23:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Opening sequence

Anyone know whether the destroyer shown in the opening sequence is actually USS Arleigh Burke. The pennant number painted on the prow is 51 - DDG-51 is the Arleigh Burke. May be worth mentioning that the lead vessel of the current class of US destroyers featured in the opening sequence. Agent0060 20:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

It would be a good factoid to add, and if you can find a reference that confirms it is the Arleigh Burke, feel free to add it. Lhb1239 (talk) 15:25, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Huge changes, no discussion

There have been huge (and I mean HUGE) changes to this article in the last 24 hours without any discussion at all. Please do not make any more similar changes until discussion has taken place and some kind of consensus reached. Personally, I would like to know the thought behind eliminating huge sections on this article, how it fits into Wikipedia policy, and how those making the changes feel they help the article. Lhb1239 (talk) 18:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Well there a dictatorship over other articles such as the NCIS and NCIS character list.Phd8511 (talk) 18:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

That thread was dormant for 1.5 years. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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Dead CBS link

The link to JAG on the CBS website is dead and looks like it cannot be replaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.10.220 (talk) 20:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

JAG characters to NCIS

I haven't seen any mention yet that Sean Murray who has been McGee since the start of NCIS, began on JAG as the son of Chegwidden love interest Dr Sydney Walden in 6 episodes. He played a different character name, but for his final appearance on JAG he was "encouraged" by Chegwidden to enlist in the Navy. So, evidently he changed his name and at some point went into NCIS :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KerryEDavis (talk • contribs) 17:30, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

not relevantPhd8511 (talk) 18:11, 29 December 2013 (UTC).

That's assumption based on the same actor playing a role on the two series. Zoe McLellan played Petty Officer Jennifer Coates on JAG and now she's playing Special Agent Meredith Brody on NCIS: New Orleans. Are we to then assume Brody is really Coates after a name change? Their two different characters. What about Ensign Terry Guitry , did he have a name change and become Danny Walden? Sean Murray played Guitry two years before playing Walden in the season 4 episode Innocence. Again, different characters. McGee is not Danny Walden. In the TV series NCIS not everyone is active duty Navy or Marines. In fact not everyone is ex-Navy or Marines either. McGee never enlisted in the Navy. -anonymous 10/12/2014 6:43 PM EST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.105.246.125 (talk) 22:43, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

series "The Tailer likes ME" looks like real

the mix of hollywood and millitary or what is it navy looks interesting from here,

79.234.235.251 (talk) 08:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

bought or given away limerik of the admiral

there are better liers than north, but some lie worse — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.234.199.222 (talk) 11:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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Moved section containing original research from main page

Almost all episodes of the series feature scenes filmed aboard real United States Navy ships. The ship most widely used was USS Forrestal, in commission as a training carrier at the time. Most of the Nimitz-class carriers also appear in one or several episodes. USS Saratoga, USS Enterprise, and USS John F. Kennedy were also used in the series.

USS Enterprise was used as the fictional USS Seahawk in many episodes. USS Forrestal and USS Dwight D. Eisenhower were also used as the fictional Seahawk, both in season four and for one episode each. For scenes filmed aboard Enterprise, the whole crew wore caps reading USS Seahawk – CVN 65 so they matched the ship's real hull number.

USS Forrestal was featured in many episodes, most prominently two in which she portrayed the fictional USS Reprisal. In these episodes, all crew members wore caps with the CV-35 pennant number. This number was intentionally out of sequence with the pennant numbers of active USN carriers at the time the series was filmed. CV-35 would have been the real pennant number of an Essex-class carrier actually called Reprisal, which was canceled during construction in 1945 when World War II ended, and broken up in 1949 after consideration had been given to completing her to a revised design roughly similar to that of USS Oriskany.

Only six USN ships featured in the series were called by their real names: USS Hornet, USS Coral Sea, USS Kitty Hawk, USS America, USS Theodore Roosevelt, and USS Belknap. Kitty Hawk is mentioned in one of the season-three episodes, but never seen on screen. America is the murder scene in a season-three episode, but shots supposedly depicting her are in fact shots of Forrestal. Real shots of Theodore Roosevelt in harbor are used in one episode of season one.

Crewmembers set up for a shot at NAS North Island (2005)

Season-three opener "Ghost Ship" was filmed entirely aboard Hornet while she was laid up at Alameda Naval Air Station before being preserved as a museum ship. Part of the storyline in "Ghost Ship" deals with the final fate of Hornet. It implies (though not explicitly stating it) she was eventually scrapped due to severe fire damage sustained during the course of the episode, contrary to her real-life fate as a national landmark. The subplot in "Ghost Ship" indicating that the ship's double hull had to be cut open from the inside to repair supposed damage to her bow during Vietnam was not at all correct with her service record.

Coral Sea is also featured in the season-three episode "Vanished" and season-four episodes "Angels 30" and "Shakedown". As she had already been scrapped at the time the episodes supposedly took place, archival footage of Coral Sea was used, with other footage shot aboard Forrestal. The majority of the exterior scenes from "Angels 30" were filmed aboard Forrestal and a few aboard Enterprise.

Belknap is mentioned in the season-four episode "Going after Francesca" as the Sixth Fleet flagship, a role she actually fulfilled in real life from 1986 until her decommissioning in 1994. Belknap had already been decommissioned and was laid up awaiting scrapping when the episode was filmed, allowing for actual exterior shots of the ship to be featured in the episode.

The series also includes appearances by Tarawa-class amphibious assault ships, Ticonderoga-class cruisers, Arleigh Burke-class destroyers (in particular USS Arleigh Burke itself during the opening credit montage), and Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates. In one of the episodes, the Spanish frigate Santa María is used to depict a fictional USN Oliver Hazard Perry-class ship (denoted by her NATO pennant number "F 81" painted under the bridge, instead of the U.S. practice of having a "number only" ID painted on the bow).

While most sea episodes are focused on aviation missions, several are based around submarine warfare: namely episodes 1:3, 2:6, 4:16, 5:22, 6:15, 7:14, 7:24, 8:7, 8:17, and 9:7.

Ricjac (talk) 10:41, 4 October 2021 (UTC)