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Hello - Masha Gessen here. I appreciate the reason for removing the changes. However, my daughter was correcting a factual mistake. My legal name, since 1989, is Masha Gessen. The way the article is currently titled is misleading and has caused a fair amount of inconvenience for me. Please retitle it "Masha Gessen." It would be accurate to say that I was born "Maria Alexandrovna," but not more than that. Thank you <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/188.1.244.6|188.1.244.6]] ([[User talk:188.1.244.6#top|talk]]) 10:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Hello - Masha Gessen here. I appreciate the reason for removing the changes. However, my daughter was correcting a factual mistake. My legal name, since 1989, is Masha Gessen. The way the article is currently titled is misleading and has caused a fair amount of inconvenience for me. Please retitle it "Masha Gessen." It would be accurate to say that I was born "Maria Alexandrovna," but not more than that. Thank you <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/188.1.244.6|188.1.244.6]] ([[User talk:188.1.244.6#top|talk]]) 10:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I've gone ahead and changed it because that doesn't seem controversial to me (and because of [[WP:BLP|policy]]), and I can only find one [[WP:RS|reliable source]] that refers to you as Maria Alexandrovna ([https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/france/291018/masha-gessen-du-new-yorker-les-democrates-doivent-nous-parler-davenir this one], but only the introduction is not behind a paywall). But it would be really great if you could confirm this outside of Wikipedia because, for what I imagine are obvious reasons, trusting an anonymous person on the internet claiming to be Masha Gessen isn't the best way to go. Two possible ways you can do this are by Twitter or by [https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/contact/ contacting Wikimedia]. You can check out [[WP:BLPSELF]] for more info. Cheers, -- [[User:Irn|irn]] ([[User talk:Irn|talk]]) 04:38, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
:I've gone ahead and changed it because that doesn't seem controversial to me (and because of [[WP:BLP|policy]]), and I can only find one [[WP:RS|reliable source]] that refers to you as Maria Alexandrovna ([https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/france/291018/masha-gessen-du-new-yorker-les-democrates-doivent-nous-parler-davenir this one], but only the introduction is not behind a paywall). But it would be really great if you could confirm this outside of Wikipedia because, for what I imagine are obvious reasons, trusting an anonymous person on the internet claiming to be Masha Gessen isn't the best way to go. Two possible ways you can do this are by Twitter or by [https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/contact/ contacting Wikimedia]. You can check out [[WP:BLPSELF]] for more info. Cheers, -- [[User:Irn|irn]] ([[User talk:Irn|talk]]) 04:38, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
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== Bibliography == |
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I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section using cite templates. Capitalization and punctuation follow standard cataloguing rules in [[AACR2]] and [[Resource Description and Access|RDA]], as much as Wikipedia templates allow it. ISBNs and other persistent identifiers, where available, are commented out, but still available for reference. This is a work in progress; feel free to continue. [[User:Sunwin1960|Sunwin1960]] ([[User talk:Sunwin1960|talk]]) 04:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Polish Holocaust complicity == |
== Polish Holocaust complicity == |
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Pronouns in English wikipedia
After some discussions on a German article in spiegel.de I checked this page to find out what pronouns Gessen prefers. It is stated Gessen uses "they/their" – but the rest of the article nevertheless uses "she". What is the standard with nonbinary persons who prefer to use a nonbinary pronoun? Shouldn’t it be the chosen pronoun to describe Gessen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.202.55.138 (talk) 12:55, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Photo for infobox
The Wikimedia Commons category c:Category:Masha Gessen at present holds two photos: one from 2011 and the one in the infobox now, from 2015. An objection was raised on the WP Humanities reference desk regarding the subject's "miserable" appearance in the 2015 photo. My solution is to add The earlier photo already appears lower on the page; both are dated. I suggest it's not adequately justifiable to swap the photos having the earlier one in the infobox due to a subjective assessment of "appearance".-- Deborahjay (talk) 15:37, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Conflict of Interest
Recent edit summaries from an editor using an IP address say that the editor is Gessen's daughter. I reverted the edits but I figure it is worth a discussion. Knope7 (talk) 02:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello - Masha Gessen here. I appreciate the reason for removing the changes. However, my daughter was correcting a factual mistake. My legal name, since 1989, is Masha Gessen. The way the article is currently titled is misleading and has caused a fair amount of inconvenience for me. Please retitle it "Masha Gessen." It would be accurate to say that I was born "Maria Alexandrovna," but not more than that. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.1.244.6 (talk) 10:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and changed it because that doesn't seem controversial to me (and because of policy), and I can only find one reliable source that refers to you as Maria Alexandrovna (this one, but only the introduction is not behind a paywall). But it would be really great if you could confirm this outside of Wikipedia because, for what I imagine are obvious reasons, trusting an anonymous person on the internet claiming to be Masha Gessen isn't the best way to go. Two possible ways you can do this are by Twitter or by contacting Wikimedia. You can check out WP:BLPSELF for more info. Cheers, -- irn (talk) 04:38, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Polish Holocaust complicity
Author responds to criticism and death threats over New Yorker article on Polish Holocaust complicity https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/03/29/author-responds-to-criticism-and-death-threats-over-new-yorker-article-on-polish-holocaust-complicity/ Should this be included in the article? Quiet2 (talk) 05:33, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
To add to article
Should we mention this in the article? In May 2023 Masha Gesse resigned from the PEN America board following the cancellation of a Russian writers' panel at the 2023 PEN World Voices Festival after Ukrainian writers threatened to boycott. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:23, 23 May 2023 (UTC
CBC citations
In the section "Return to the U.S.," neither of the referenced articles/interviews on the CBC can be found at the links, which revert to the general CBC website. I could not find the interviews in a search of the website, nor on Internet Archive (Wayback Machine). I noted this for the first article, but could not do so for the second. This is beyond my pay grade. 11 Arlington (talk) 11 Arlington (talk) 01:09, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've replaced the first with a mirror from Q's YouTube channel. (Pro tip: Googling the citation title in quotes will often show you where it moved on the site in question. In this case, there's still a few pages on the CBC's website containing it in part, but the YouTube video appears most comprehensive.) I'm also drawing a blank on the second, although I'll note it's a 500 error, which may indicate a temporary error on the CBC site. Either way, I'm sure there's still a version of the January 9, 2014, episode of The Current hosted somewhere, but I don't have the time to go digging right now. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 02:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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