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== odysseus / odin ==
==Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment==

[[File:Sciences humaines.svg|40px]] This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available [[Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Colgate_University/CORE_151_P_Legacies_of_the_Ancient_World_(Fall_2016)|on the course page]]. Student editor(s): [[User:Washingtondorian|Washingtondorian]].
in the presence of edits trying to connect odysseus to semitic languages or even sumerian culture, i tried to point out that odysseus and odin looking the same is probably not a coincidence, and it was removed. i stand by that edit.

the greek language comes from the north of europe, not from the middle east. greek words share a common root with german and russian, not with hebrew and arabic. the origins of these stories are in proto-indo-european. that is obvious. so, if you're looking for deeper connections, you should look to german mythology, and not to ancient semitic religion.

the proto-indo-european root for odin is "rage", whereas the pie root for odysseus is "hate". odysseus and odin have a great many similarities, in both being extrapolations of the hermes archetype. it is also curious that odin and odysseus both share derivations of poetry in their respective daughter languages.


this is nor original, exactly, but it's not accepted, either. it is a better idea than trying to connect it to sumeria, for the obvious reason that the languages are incomparable, and it's a several thousand year gap, with no intervention.
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the strong similarities in the mythologies of the indo-european peoples has long been observed. it is not helpful to look towards distant (both geographically and temporally) sumeria, when there are closer comparisons in time and space, unless you have a political agenda your'e advancing.
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i will let somebody else write this up. [[Special:Contributions/107.179.229.114|107.179.229.114]] ([[User talk:107.179.229.114|talk]]) 19:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Exposure to modern retellings of this classic core metaphor of our culture (as Jean Luc Picard, Star Trek Next Generation, called it) would be worth displaying how this saga exists still, is being modernized and updated, but living still. My favorite is "The Natural" with Robert Redford.

Latest revision as of 12:20, 1 April 2024

odysseus / odin

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in the presence of edits trying to connect odysseus to semitic languages or even sumerian culture, i tried to point out that odysseus and odin looking the same is probably not a coincidence, and it was removed. i stand by that edit.

the greek language comes from the north of europe, not from the middle east. greek words share a common root with german and russian, not with hebrew and arabic. the origins of these stories are in proto-indo-european. that is obvious. so, if you're looking for deeper connections, you should look to german mythology, and not to ancient semitic religion.

the proto-indo-european root for odin is "rage", whereas the pie root for odysseus is "hate". odysseus and odin have a great many similarities, in both being extrapolations of the hermes archetype. it is also curious that odin and odysseus both share derivations of poetry in their respective daughter languages.

this is nor original, exactly, but it's not accepted, either. it is a better idea than trying to connect it to sumeria, for the obvious reason that the languages are incomparable, and it's a several thousand year gap, with no intervention.

the strong similarities in the mythologies of the indo-european peoples has long been observed. it is not helpful to look towards distant (both geographically and temporally) sumeria, when there are closer comparisons in time and space, unless you have a political agenda your'e advancing.

i will let somebody else write this up. 107.179.229.114 (talk) 19:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]