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Did they? They just told me to use sources... so i did.. and after that you came to edit warre. You are illusioning again. And Yes please do, you are making me laugh :) ([[User:Правичност|Правичност]] ([[User talk:Правичност#top|talk]]) 01:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC))
Did they? They just told me to use sources... so i did.. and after that you came to edit warre. You are illusioning again. And Yes please do, you are making me laugh :) ([[User:Правичност|Правичност]] ([[User talk:Правичност#top|talk]]) 01:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC))

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Hello, I have found another source, I would like to hear your input on this matter. Greetings.Adrian (talk) 18:57, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unacceptable

Please comment the content, not the contributor. Comments like this are unacceptable. Please consider not doing this in future.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will. In that moment of false accusements and personal attacks i reacted too quickly. (Правичност (talk) 22:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Vlachs of Serbia

Hello,

I have reverted your edit (about the Serbian language) because in the infobox we add languages that are related to that ethnic group. I don`t believe Serbian is related to Romanian(Vlach) language. If you do, please provide a valid source. They speak Serbian of course, because they live in Serbia but Serbian language is not related to this ethnic group. Example: To add German language to the Serbs infobox? There is a huge number of Serbs speaking the German language but is it related to the Serbian language in any linguistic way? Just because Serbs speak German it doesn`t mean it should be present in the infobox at the Serbs article. Greetings. Adrian (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, yes i perfectly agree with what you have said- Serbian is in no way related to Vlach(Romanian) language, neither would i put German or any other language in Serbs infobox... but would perhaps include it for Serbs in Germany, Austria etc. ; i didnt put a source for it, but the source could be the census 2011 in Serbia itself. I have included Serbian language simply only because of the reason they live in Serbia and therefore speak the language, while a certain number of Vlachs declared speaking Serbian only (which would mean they are descendants of vlachs but dont speak the native language anymore), i thought including Serbian would be neccesary just like for example these articles include country language: Serbs of Croatia, Serbs in Romania. i would also include Serbian for Hungarians in Vojvodina, right after Hungarian language... But ill say your call. (Правичност (talk) 18:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
It`s far from my call, we can discuss this - In my head (logic) whatever ethnic group is about, they speak their language (language of the state they live in excluded) because of course they speak the language they live in. I saw the examples you enumarated and this is confusing to me. I would remove all other languages except that ethnic group. I only don`t know what to do with the [Croats of Vojvodina] and [Serbs of Croatia] because of the common history and language similarities (and same language group - South Slavic). I propose removing all other languages? Leaving only Serbian for the Serbs, Croatian for the Croatian, etc? Hungarians for example don`t have, which is correct to me. Slovakians either [1], if you notice they don`t have a infobox but in the language section there is only Slovakian. I saw a couple of examples more... and now I am puzzled. Maybe include them all? What would you do? Adrian (talk) 20:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes i have checked also Slovaks article earlier, also Roma and some others which dont have languages in infobox. In this case i would do same as you, remove all other languages but the one related to the ethnic one, but in this case i fear it would spread another edit war: Croatian editors would continuessly input croatian on Serbs of Croatia, while same would happen to Serbs in Austria article etc... leaving the articles unbalanced... i dont know... (Правичност (talk) 20:29, 10 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Let`s try to remove all other languages and if problems appear(I will remove them now), then we can always add languages to all other articles. There is no harm in this WP:BOLD, if problems appear, atleast we would get more input from more users and make the changes to clear this problem. Adrian (talk) 20:38, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok good idea, we can do that. I see you have already done the changes on several articles, i myself have done a change for Serbs in Austria. And if "problems occure" we just change all related articles and add a secondary (country) language to the native one. (Правичност (talk) 20:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Continuously manipulate data

Official source is the U.S. Census! Blic.rs, krajinaforce.com no official data It's POV. Stop increasing the number of Serbs, and reduce the number of other South Slavs.--Sokac121 (talk) 18:40, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Again you continue to falsly accuse me and attack me; you should be thankful i increased number of Croats on 8,5 instead of 8,4 million per "Your POV source". i just recently reverted someones edit of bulgarians on 7,5 million back to "up to 9 million" as it was before (reached by editors concensuses according to sources)- i suppose thats how you explain my evil number reducing? BTW.. I mainly dont interfiere or try pushing on articles of other ethnic groups, all i do is recommend things if i have reliable sources. There exist official figures, yes.. but there also exist higher estimations and in this case by ministry of serbian diaspora itself. Blic.rs is a source which can be reliaed on, krajina force.rs isnt used anywhere- it simply only served me to gain an online book of one demograph writer; just like your Croats article which even mainly consists of sources out of books and from writers. This explains how much are you actually informed about Serbs article and its sources ... Now please restrain yourself from unreasonable accusements and attacks. (Правичност (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
[2] This is an attack User: Antidiskriminator told you, I'm not talking about the Croats and Bulgarians. krajina force.rs ist nationalist page. --Sokac121 (talk) 19:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You dont have to remind me of what Antidiskriminator told me (youve been also warned for edit warring); btw you have atacked me on edit summaries and continuessly accuse me of somesort of manipulation which is nothing but a lie. You also continuessly raid Serbs infobox; delete refferenced citations and reliable sources just like you again recently did. I have already explained to you about krajina.force if you havent understood try reading it 5 times again if it helps. But i dont think anything helps you as it is impossible to talk or reach anything with the likes of you. (Правичност (talk) 19:36, 10 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Ok. Let`s just focus on the problem. Sokac121 I have noticed your recent edit [3] where you removed Blic source [4] and UsaSerbs [5] source. What is the problem with this sources by you? Why are you changing the higher estimate of the total number of Serbs in the World? Adrian (talk) 20:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re:warning request

  • It takes some time to learn the written rules of wikipedia (and even more for unwritten). If you have intention to productively participate in discussions within ARBMAC scope it may take even more time. In the meantime if you engage yourself in disputes and conflicts without first learning wikipedia rules you risk to violate them and discredit your position in the discussions.
  • My advice to you is to learn wikipedia rules better. It will normally result with your edits being more constructive. The total number of Foo presented in the infobox is the least important thing in the world. Why wouldn't you create a new article by yourself? Find some notable topic you are familiar with and which does not have its article and create start class article. We can do it together if you like? --Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:39, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

-...But anyways... he gets away with it calling me names and stuff... okay. (Правичност (talk) 18:30, 11 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Thank you for your kind idea and offer, unfortunately atm i cant think of any topic, i am into history, sports, serbian stuff otherwise etc... maybe we could make an article about some person who isnt yet on english wikipedia idk... if you come up with some idea for a new article we can decide about it. (Правичност (talk) 01:15, 12 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Yes, I have a coupe ideas.
  1. Šufadaj? A medieval port with marketplace north of Durres.
  2. The Battle of Nokšić
I would like to hear your choice or alternative proposal and look forward to our cooperation.
In the meantime, please don't write comments about ethnicity of other editors (like you did here).--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Right... well this Šufadaj? was it a medieval port inside medieval Serbia (when Durres was under Serbia)? (Правичност (talk) 01:27, 14 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Šufadaj belonged to King Milutin, to Emperor Dušan, to Balša, Ivan Kastriot... I guess it could be said that in one period it belonged to medieval Serbia. Shall we start writing the article and researching its topic? Or you have some other proposal?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually these kind of themes dont quite draw my interest much, idk... give me a few days if i manage to find something new or to decide... in meanwhile.. how about Rudpolph van veen? The famous dutch cook from 24 kitchen, who is slowly getting more popular than jamie oliver? http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_van_Veen (Правичност (talk) 19:45, 14 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Good idea. I like him very much. I will start an article on him at Rudolph van Veen. Please read WP:BLP and join me. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:05, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I now saw that it has already been created before and deleted, so I have to first contact admin who deleted it, which means it may take some time. I will inform you about the situation.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:07, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed this comment of yours. Please have in mind Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines "Do not be critical in headings: This includes being critical about details of the article. Those details were written by individual editors, who may experience the heading as an attack on them." If the dispute can not be resolve trough discussion you should consider WP:DR. There is very illustrative pyramid which I think one should always have in mind during discussions.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very well i will delete my message i dont actually even care much about "nationalist propaganda" which that is by my opinion. I will take a look at those... and shame for Rudolph van Veen, he certainly deserves a place on english wikipedia. Then please do inform me, thank you. (Правичност (talk) 20:26, 14 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Rudolph van Veen

Good news. Administrator who deleted the article on Rudolph van Veen approved its creation. I will create it now. Please join me. (remember to read WP:BLP). Do you know how to add his picture?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

that is great. can you give me link for this WP:BLP please? and i will be on to help. I know how to replace pictures or set them in an already created "box" if i may call it that way, but otherwise i dont; however i consider rudolphs picture from dutch article excellent. (Правичност (talk) 01:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
WP:BLP. If you prefer Dutch picture then feel free to replace the existing one. I propose you to first read WP:BLP and then to start expanding the article. Please let me know if I can help.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:28, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ty, oh i just realised the picture is same on both articles anyway, so its good. (Правичност (talk) 21:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
OK. Now you can expand the article. Why don't you try to find the source for his year of birth.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have done some expansions with a help of this website http://www.24kitchen.nl/chefs/rudolph-van-veen, too bad i couldnt find it in english though, was quite hard to translate from dutch. You can check if its ok by now. (Правичност (talk) 22:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Very good. I have several remarks:
  1. This discussion deals with the article and now when this article is created should be led on the article talkpage so I will move it there.
  2. You used 24hours kitchen as source. That source is closely connected to the subject and somebody can even consider it wp:sps. I think that it is better to find some other sources about him.
  3. You used website as source. In that case I can recommend you to use Template:Cite web which will contain all necessary parameters for citation.
  4. "Do not use a flag template." says Template:Infobox person for nationality (and many other) section.
  5. Section title is "Early life" (the time when someone is a child) and it deals with Rudolf when he was 27.
  6. The tone of the text you wrote shows that it was written against the promotional text on 24kitchen website ("...already knew as a little boy that he wanted to be a cook"... "from that moment he was determined to be a Master chef"). I think it does not completely follow wp:blp which requests "a dispassionate tone, avoiding both understatement and overstatement". Nobody knows what he knew as a little boy about his future career and nobody knows what was the moment when he became determined to be something and what.
Any thoughts? --Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I just want to check if you are still interested to expand Rudolph article? Would you prefer some other topic?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:01, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, yes i am still interested to help. I apologize as i dont find much time to explore for sources and edit last days, but if you dont mind .. when careless, i will stop by here shortly eevry time to work on it. (Правичност (talk) 22:54, 24 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]
OK. If you need help with some other article, feel free to contact me.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:08, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Will do TY :) (Правичност (talk) 01:11, 25 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Threats to vandalise and edit war on another article in edit summary of Serbs article

G'day Правичност, I've been trying to butt out of the ongoing debacle with the total number of Serbs in the world at Serbs, but your last edit summary is completely out of line. You are threatening to vandalise another article and then editwar on that article because you are in dispute with editors at Serbs. This is potentially very serious given Serbs is included in the scope of WP:ARBMAC (which allows for the imposition of discretionary sanctions), and you are already doing quite a bit of edit warring already. It might appear to you that this stuff is very important, but this is Wikipedia and not the real world, and if you are just getting frustrated with it it's not doing you or Wikipedia any good. I note Antid has suggested you focus on something else for a bit and get more familiar with WP policies and guidelines, and I would just like to say that is a very good idea and I encourage you to take up his kind offer to collaborate on something else. In the meantime I suggest you revert yourself, noting in the edit summary that your threats were intemperate, then make the edit you intended without the threats. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 14:19, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, well i wouldnt quite actually call them threaths but i know what you mean and it wasnt right certainly. Nationalists, Serbophobic people really do get me a bit angry, i cant imagine somebody can get so irritated because there is "too much Serbs for his own taste" or can not live with something that shows the serbian side greater than his own... alot of such complexed people i also sometimes meet in real life, as i also live in diaspora; believe me being a Serb is not easy, so no wonder so many Serbs in diaspora started to declare as rather something else or forgot who they were... when whole world media represents your people as "agressive maniacs and the other sides as poor harmless victims" but nevermind all that... i am actually willing to get these articles closer to truth eventough its just wikipedia. but nevermind... i did what you suggested, i reverted the summarie and stuff, was the only right thing to do too. However demographic history facts are: when there were lets say 2 million croats, there was 4 million serbs; 4 million croats, 8 million serbs etc... always 1x times higher number than the croats... this is why reducing number of serbs from 12 to only 10 million and leaving croats on 8,5 million i consider as "falsifying history and rewriting it" and as a history fan, also a serbian patriot like i am i really cant let that happen, wikipedia may be only wikipedia, but this is the place where a huge portion of the worlds population comes to read about stuff. (Правичност (talk) 20:18, 14 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

I have also agreed on idea of Antidisk; we will do article on Rudolph van veen the famous Dutch tv cook :). Greetings (Правичност (talk) 03:52, 16 April 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Ako za Čehe, Austrijance, Hrvate i ostale koristimo jedan izvor nevidim zasto da ga nekoristimo i za Srbe. Ako broj Srba od službenog popisa utrostručimo, koliko tek Poljaka ima u SAD-u 50 milijuna, Čeha 5 milijuna. Pola stanovnika Amerike su Irci. A vjeruj mi sigurno cemo naci i takve POV izvore. Također imamo i izvore Ministarstva dijaspore u koje je broj Srba u dijaspori puno manji od onog kojeg ti hoćeš nametniti. Uporno pokušavas povećati broj Srba vidiš kako je završilo s Srbima u Turskoj fijasko, potpuno neutralan i nerelavantan izvor pokušavaš staviti. Ako stavis neke realne izvore nitko ti ih nece maknuti, stoviše to je za pohvalu, al ostalo nije dobro.--Sokac121 (talk) 11:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Imaš odgovor na svom talk page-u (Правичност (talk) 14:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Popis iz 1965. pa možemo onda stavit i popis iz 1941. da u Vojvodini živi 250.000 Njemaca, u Hrvatskoj 100.000 u Poljskoj par milijuna :) Od 1965. se puno toga promjenilo. Ako broj Srba u četverostrucis onda prema tome Hrvata u SAD-u ima 3 milijuna www.hia.com.hr/iseljenici/iseljenici01.html to je po tvome‎ ja to neću staviti. Srbi u Njemačkoj sedma po veličini skupina ti ih stavio kao treća otprilike, za Dansku stavis izvor joshua project koji nije pouzdan. Na istoj stranici ti piše joshuaproject 993,000 Srba u BiH, France 25,000, Austria 21,000 no naravno tu se praviš slijep i neces stavit te manje brojke. Što se tiče Hrvata u Novom Zelandu pogledaj na googlu Maori and Croatians, Tarara Croats vidim da se sad o tome vodi rasprava pa si me potako da nesto napisem:)--Sokac121 (talk) 10:33, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ništa mogu te pozvati da budeš realan i prestanes s svojim nacionalistickim nastupima koji ce biti uklonjeni. --Sokac121 (talk) 10:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Adrian (talk) 15:35, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ej

Nešto mi je iskrslo, tako da moram da odložim ono za neke, verovatno, dve nedelje. Do tada možeš vratiti onu drugu sliku, koja je svakako bolja, dogovori se sa drugim urednicima. Imate tri, četiri verzije iste slike. pozdrav :) Mm.srb (talk) 10:55, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dobro, videću šta mogu. Hvala, pozdrav :). (Правичност (talk) 14:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Vezano za ono, reč je o Milutinu Milankoviću. Mm.srb (talk) 16:59, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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The right flag

You don't seem to know the difference between a state flag and national flag do you? Doesn't matter, here's what you need to know. And I know my history quite well, thanks... Buttons (talk) 19:17, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And this is suppose to be a reliable source by you? As i can see that page can be modified by anyone... I know very well what the flag of Kingdom of Serbia was thank you. (Правичност (talk) 11:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Konstantno radis na tome da broj Srba povećaš, na cijelom infoobox-u si prikazo najveci broj Srba u pojedinim zemljama. Ideš po internetu i trazis svakakve sulude izvore i stavljas ih kao pouzdane, dok u drugu ruke neces da stavis one koje tebi ne pašu. Za broj Srba u Njemačkoj, BiH, JAR, Austrija.... se neću miješati iako bi i tu imao sto za reci, ali ovo u SAD-u je nerealno. Također kršiš pravila wikipedije i služiš se Canvassingom gdje zoves suradnike da podrzaju tvoje ideje. Dakle budi malo realan. Laku noć --Sokac121 (talk) 19:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

-Smešno... naravno dok bi ti sve te brojke smanjio kako bi ukazao da Hrvata ima više od Srba- (mada znaš da to nije realno) heh. Ako bi kršio neka pravila za to bi bio upozoren, pogotovo za taj tvoj canvassing, ja ne tražim podrške nigde već samo upiam za pomoć ako mi treba. "Druže", nacionalan si i to mnogo. Laku noć. (Правичност (talk) 20:11, 29 June 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Hello, I noticed that you two communicated on Serbian language. There is a guideline (WP:SPEAKENGLISH) which says: "Use English: It is preferable to use English on all talk pages so comments may be comprehensible to the community. If using another language is unavoidable, try to provide a translation of the comments.". --Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:28, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!.. allright... I I Sir. (Правичност (talk) 20:51, 29 June 2013 (UTC))[reply]

WikiProject Serbia collaboration - Serbian monasteries

Would you be interested in creating and expanding Klisina Monastery to start-class, or higher, in line with the current WikiProject Serbia collaboration on Serbian monasteries? If you accept, once you're finished, let User:Zoupan or User:Antidiskriminator know, and you will be assigned new tasks.--Zoupan 18:19, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can use article on sr.wiki if you feel like it.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings. I am sorry to inform you that i am a bit twisted with time and wont probably have enough time to create articles, but i can surely help out with edits and will try to help out as much as i can and as much as time will serve me if that is okay?. (Правичност (talk) 21:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Take all the time you need to create Klisina Monastery. If you don't have time or will, that is perfectly ok. Wikipedia is voluntary project. All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:19, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well i will help as much as i will be able to. Greetings! (Правичност (talk) 21:51, 30 July 2013 (UTC))[reply]

insulting edit summary

Information icon Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article/topic ban. Thank you.

Telling another user to blow you while reverting them is asking for trouble. Please don't do it.

--Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Joy [shallot] (talk) I am aware of that certainly, but i thought imposing false accusements on me over and over again (also during reverts) and during any debate, talk... (like a muscito going for the skin) is also a personal attack. This is why i suggested the user to take a meer relaxing blow. Eventough "puši" also means "to smoke" ... going for a smoke is another way to relax frustrative obsession from within; blowing out the bad air and breathing in the good one :). (Правичност (talk) 19:58, 7 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]
I don't find that clever or amusing, Правичност, and I'm reasonably certain others won't either. Kindly strike your, personal comments from Talk:Kosovo, otherwise I'll have to report your activities and request sanctions. Thanks -- Director (talk) 19:50, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
AFAICT Sokac121 said you were doing something disingenuous in their earlier edit summary, and while that's also improper, he could support such an assertion with proof which would make it less of a personal attack and more of a factual statement. On the other hand, a trivial insult has no real excuse - just don't do it. I have also warned him not to edit-war. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 20:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I recently got to know wikipedia more and did some useful contributions Joy [shallot], all was good until Shokac tasted too many Serbs (in numbers) for his own stomach,, he is now increasing numbers of Croats on the Croats article in return... I call that complex and frustration and anti-Serb obsession.... BTW ... his proof proves nothing much (maybe some of my edits 1 year old when i didnt know what wikipedia was about, but thats not important at all anymore), all i ever did recently was present ideas, if not that i did changes with reliable sources, refferenced my changes with relaible sources... he saw that his own way.. his problem, he always sees it the other way... on alot of Serbian talk pages you can see him arguing or being the only one, forcing his own ideals and ideas, anything that would be the opposite to the ideas of Serbian editors... I dont bite anymore what he does, but i sure know i have enough of him. It was my mistake to tell him what i did, but i simply found any more clever arguments simply uselesss... This one however as bad as it looks seemed to help :) ... oh and btw... you can check out Shokac history too... he was constantly decreasing number of Serbs despite reliable sources which were aprooved by all editors except for him, thus, he still continued to do so... now he is on his way to increase number of croats in return... how pathetic :)(Правичност (talk) 20:18, 7 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]

This comment was also basically an insult aimed at some other user. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For the one and only croatian nationalist internet warlock Sokac121, none other. (Правичност (talk) 20:01, 7 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]
A "warlock" is a wizard, Правичност. -- Director (talk) 20:05, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No way, .. and what, that was suppose to be a joke? You could teach Shokac some english, he lacks knowledge for it... but doesnt lack knowledge for how to do everything opposite of the serbian editors and ideas :) (Правичност (talk) 20:09, 7 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]

The article quotes him as saying he is Montenegrin. Why would he say he's Montenegrin when he was born in Denmark? Because he is ETHNICALLY a Montenegrin. Leave it at that.--DemirBajraktarevic (talk) 19:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dont fully agree on that, people also say they are bosnians and born in other countries... whilst Bosnian is not an ethnical affilation, nor can a Montenegrin or a macedonian always be for example. (Правичност (talk) 19:11, 18 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]

The Bosnian situation is entirely different. Bosniaks are the Bosnian ethnic group no matter how much Serbs want to make them believe that they aren't.--DemirBajraktarevic (talk) 20:21, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking about Bosnians, not Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) and im not trying to make you believe you arent... or whatever... (Правичност (talk) 20:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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Violation of rules 3RR

Four contributor are told that there are 10 million Serbs. Unfortunately, I will inform administrators that you constantly break the rules. Stop breaking the rules of Wikipedia. Thanks! --Sokac121 (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did they? They just told me to use sources... so i did.. and after that you came to edit warre. You are illusioning again. And Yes please do, you are making me laugh :) (Правичност (talk) 01:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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