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== A Litter of Kittens for You == |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you for your contributions, Polygnotus. Enjoy this litter of kittens, all for you! [[User:Firecat93|Firecat93]] ([[User talk:Firecat93|talk]]) 21:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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* Users of Wikimedia sites will now be warned when they create a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Redirects|redirect]] to a page that doesn't exist. This will reduce the number of broken redirects to red links in our projects. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T326057] |
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Do you have the query for User:Polygnotus/Data/FeaturedArticleCounts
[edit]Hey, Do you by chance have the query you used to generate that file? I, @Hey man im josh and @Novem Linguae were discussing the possibility of throwing together a toolforge tool based on citehighlighter and it would be nice to be able to show users the number/a list of similar FA/GA class pages that use similar sources. Sohom (talk) 00:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Sohom Datta:! I didn't use a query. Because there are so few of them I just made API calls overnight. I then extracted the URLs, extracted the domainnames, and did the counting in Java. Is it possible to see that conversation somewhere? Or was it on IRC/Discord? It sounds interesting. I may or may not have some ideas. Polygnotus (talk) 10:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Polygnotus: It was a casual conversation in the main English wiki discord channel on the en wiki discord server.
- I've long loved the idea of putting a URL into a web site to see whether Wikipedia interprets it as RS, and that was the focus of the discussion. Novem was open to the idea, but they wanted to see that it was desired by enough people.
- I like the premise of searching and finding "Canada123 is considered reliable source based on WP:CANADA and RSP page." Or something similar. I think it could be a very useful tool, but I'm still working on the idea of how/where to propose it. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh The first part should be easy to implement thanks to User:Novem_Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter/SourcesJSON.js. Connecting it to a exact RSN discussion or RSP/VG entry might take a bit more work. Sohom (talk) 13:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, absolutely. I vaguely mentioned the idea of accepted / trusted volunteers who could add the relevant links. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Sohom Datta: I still have the code used of course and I'd be happy to run it again. It has been undeleted and moved to User:Polygnotus/Data/FeaturedArticleCounts (it is not very outdated because FAs are pretty rare, back then there were 6538 and currently there are 6566). My conversation with Novem Linguae is here. Novem Linguae added a bunch of them to SourcesJSON. User:Headbomb/unreliable also exists but I haven't really looked at it. GreenC keeps track of basically every URL on Wikipedia IIRC. Polygnotus (talk) 18:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh The first part should be easy to implement thanks to User:Novem_Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter/SourcesJSON.js. Connecting it to a exact RSN discussion or RSP/VG entry might take a bit more work. Sohom (talk) 13:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Sohom Datta: My idea would be:
- Make a API with 5 endpoints
- voteup
- votedown
- trustedvoteup (which would count for, lets say, +5 votes)
- trustedvotedown (ditto, but -5)
- list
- Make a javascript that:
- adds up and down arrows to each source. Click the up arrow to vote that a source is reliable, down arrow for unreliable.
- colors the source a shade of green or red depending on the amount of amount of up or downvotes if there are more than x up or downvotes
- Shows how many ratings this source has.
- Give the trusted people the ability to authenticate to the API and then rate sources.
- Make a API with 5 endpoints
- I made a list of the top 10.000 most often referenced domains, make a table sorted by number of occurences where people can easily rate them.
- What do you think? Polygnotus (talk) 23:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Sohom Datta: My idea would be:
A beer for you!
[edit]I've never considered looking at the Spam block list log. Nice WP-fu! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC) |
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thank you! It is one of those forgotten log pages that can be quite handy. Polygnotus (talk) 07:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-38
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Improvements and Maintenance
- Editors interested in templates can help by reading the latest Wishlist focus area, Template recall and discovery, and share your feedback on the talkpage. This input helps the Community Tech team to decide the right technical approach to build. Everyone is also encouraged to continue adding new wishes.
- The new automated Special:NamespaceInfo page helps editors understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [1]
- References Check is a feature that encourages editors to add a citation when they add a new paragraph to a Wikipedia article. For a short time, the corresponding tag "Edit Check (references) activated" was erroneously being applied to some edits outside of the main namespace. This has been fixed. [2]
- It is now possible for a wiki community to change the order in which a page’s categories are displayed on their wiki. By default, categories are displayed in the order they appear in the wikitext. Now, wikis with a consensus to do so can request a configuration change to display them in alphabetical order. [3]
- Tool authors can now access ToolsDB's public databases from both Quarry and Superset. Those databases have always been accessible to every Toolforge user, but they are now more broadly accessible, as Quarry can be accessed by anyone with a Wikimedia account. In addition, Quarry's internal database can now be queried from Quarry itself. This database contains information about all queries that are being run and starred by users in Quarry. This information was already public through the web interface, but you can now query it using SQL. You can read more about that, and 20 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Any pages or tools that still use the very old CSS classes
mw-message-box
need to be updated. These old classes will be removed next week or soon afterwards. Editors can use a global-search to determine what needs to be changed. It is possible to use the newercdx-message
group of classes as a replacement (see the relevant Codex documentation, and an example update), but using locally defined onwiki classes would be best. [4]
Technical project updates
- Next week, all Wikimedia wikis will be read-only for a few minutes. This will start on September 25 at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. This maintenance process also targets other services. The previous switchover took 3 minutes, and the Site Reliability Engineering teams use many tools to make sure that this essential maintenance work happens as quickly as possible. [5]
Tech in depth
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes details about: research about hook handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Hackathon Showcase (45 mins) - 19 short presentations by some of the Hackathon participants, describing some of the projects they worked on, such as automated testing of maintenance scripts, a video-cutting command line tool, and interface improvements for various tools. There are more details and links available in the Phabricator task.
- Co-Creating a Sustainable Future for the Toolforge Ecosystem (40 mins) - a roundtable discussion for tool-maintainers, users, and supporters of Toolforge about how to make the platform sustainable and how to evaluate the tools available there.
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Barnstar for you
[edit]The Original Barnstar | ||
In acknowledgement of your dedication to the WP mission, and your good humor in the face of aspersions, displayed at Luis Elizondo. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you! Polygnotus (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-39
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday September 25 at 15:00 UTC. Reading the wikis will not be interrupted, but editing will be paused. These twice-yearly processes allow WMF's site reliability engineering teams to remain prepared to keep the wikis functioning even in the event of a major interruption to one of our data centers.
Updates for editors
- Editors who use the iOS Wikipedia app in Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Chinese, may see the Alt Text suggested-edit experiment after editing an article, or completing a suggested edit using "Add an image". Alt-text helps people with visual impairments to read Wikipedia articles. The team aims to learn if adding alt-text to images is a task that editors can be successful with. Please share any feedback on the discussion page.
- The Codex color palette has been updated with new and revised colors for the MediaWiki user interfaces. The most noticeable changes for editors include updates for: dark mode colors for Links and for quiet Buttons (progressive and destructive), visited Link colors for both light and dark modes, and background colors for system-messages in both light and dark modes.
- It is now possible to include clickable wikilinks and external links inside code blocks. This includes links that are used within
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are also linked to the template page. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [6] - Two bugs were fixed in the GlobalVanishRequest system by improving the logging and by removing an incorrect placeholder message. [7][8]
- View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- From Wikimedia Enterprise:
- The API now enables 5,000 on-demand API requests per month and twice-monthly HTML snapshots freely (gratis and libre). More information on the updates and also improvements to the software development kits (SDK) are explained on the project's blog post. While Wikimedia Enterprise APIs are designed for high-volume commercial reusers, this change enables many more community use-cases to be built on the service too.
- The Snapshot API (html dumps) have added beta Structured Contents endpoints (blog post on that) as well as released two beta datasets (English and French Wikipedia) from that endpoint to Hugging Face for public use and feedback (blog post on that). These pre-parsed data sets enable new options for researchers, developers, and data scientists to use and study the content.
In depth
- The Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) is used to get answers to questions using the Wikidata data set. As Wikidata grows, we had to make a major architectural change so that WDQS could remain performant. As part of the WDQS Graph Split project, we have new SPARQL endpoints available for serving the "scholarly" and "main" subgraphs of Wikidata. The query.wikidata.org endpoint will continue to serve the full Wikidata graph until March 2025. After this date, it will only serve the main graph. For more information, please see the announcement on Wikidata.
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry I just disturb you.
[edit]But, I have now an acount so we can talk more easily! Grubisz440 (talk) 07:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Grubisz440: Hiya! Welcome to Wikipedia! Polygnotus (talk) 08:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Race and intelligence
[edit]Hello Polygnotus, I just wanted to drop by to tell you about an interesting template I recently found. Expanding it could theoretically allow users to navigate this confusing content area a lot more comfortably. Maybe you have some ideas as to its potential content.
Kind regards
Biohistorian15 (talk) 13:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Biohistorian15: Hiya! I changed the section header because we tend to use the %month% %year% format when telling someone off. I believe the race and intelligence stuff is rather boring because unfortunately there is currently only one living human race (although I do suspect one of my former neighbors might belong to the homo floresiensis). And we do not yet have a reliable way to measure all facets of intelligence. I read a bit of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and intelligence but it was very boring. I would recommend the fascinating study of animal intelligence instead. Polygnotus (talk) 03:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. And I have met my fair share of people worthy of their very own taxonomic adage as well, haha.
- Maybe you know somebody else to the (relative) left of these issues that is as charitable as you mostly were in our few past interactions. I just don't want to edit the thing for a long time with my sole POV involved... and then be called a POV pusher by uninvolved bystanders lol. Biohistorian15 (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Biohistorian15: I think that people who agree with me are very boring. My wife has yet to agree with me.
- I (try to) remember the usernames of people who disagreed with me in interesting ways, or even convinced me, and of those who are experts on certain topics.
- Unfortunately I don't know the political leanings of the overwhelming majority of users so I assume that everyone else is a despicable centrist anarcho-nazi-communist. You could ask @Slatersteven: if he is interested in this kinda stuff, but be warned, you should read their userpage first! But I would not describe him as charitable, because that might offend him. I have strong opinions on certain subjects, and I am very confident that those opinions are correct, but I never edit the related articles. I don't even read them. This is good for my mental health, saves me a lot of time, and it ensures I can laugh at anyone who accuses me of POV pushing. And when a debate doesn't go the way I want it to I can shrug and move on. If I would edit the articles about stuff I am passionate about irl then my passion would be a weakness for me as a Wikipedian. Polygnotus (talk) 03:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- You did pique my curiosity; how would you describe your POV? It is easy to forget that both the left- and right-wing are very diverse. Polygnotus (talk) 06:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll try to remember Slatersteven's name for future occasions like this, but after the predictable FT/N posting, I'll likely have quite a few dissenters to work with already...
- Regarding politics on the matter, my position is actually much more moderate than it might look from the outside, it's ultimately agnostic; but in light of the kinds of hounding I've been through in the past (*people taking old sentence fragments out of context etc.), I can only deliver a passionate monologue if you mail me. Best of wishes, Biohistorian15 (talk) 11:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-41
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Communities can now request installation of Automoderator on their wiki. Automoderator is an automated anti-vandalism tool that reverts bad edits based on scores from the new "Revert Risk" machine learning model. You can read details about the necessary steps for installation and configuration. [9]
Updates for editors
- Translators in wikis where the mobile experience of Content Translation is available, can now customize their articles suggestion list from 41 filtering options when using the tool. This topic-based article suggestion feature makes it easy for translators to self-discover relevant articles based on their area of interest and translate them. You can try it with your mobile device. [10]
- View all 12 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- It is now possible for
<syntaxhighlight>
code blocks to offer readers a "Copy" button if thecopy=1
attribute is set on the tag. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [11] - Customized copyright footer messages on all wikis will be updated. The new versions will use wikitext markup instead of requiring editing raw HTML. [12]
- Later this month, temporary accounts will be rolled out on several pilot wikis. The final list of the wikis will be published in the second half of the month. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 11 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. Guidance on how to update the code is available.
- Rate limiting has been enabled for the code review tools Gerrit and GitLab to address ongoing issues caused by malicious traffic and scraping. Clients that open too many concurrent connections will be restricted for a few minutes. This rate limiting is managed through nftables firewall rules. For more details, see Wikitech's pages on Firewall, GitLab limits and Gerrit operations.
- Five new wikis have been created:
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Doesn't Just Revert, but Helps Out Too
[edit]The Original Barnstar | ||
Most of the time, when people revert your edits because you didn't follow all ten thousand Wikipedia rules, you don't expect them to help you out and make it right. Not this person. Thanks again. Eido INOUE 08:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you sir! Polygnotus (talk) 08:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
[edit]Thank you for your response on Teahouse
TNM101 (chat) 08:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you! I love cookies! Polygnotus (talk) 08:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Resolved
[edit]Please consider not adding "Resolved" to Teahouse posts. The original poster and/or Teahouse Hosts may have more to contribute. David notMD (talk) 10:24, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- The poster got indeffed and most likely won't be back. It would be a waste of time to contribute more. Polygnotus (talk) 10:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- 97 different archives of the Teahouse contain at least one usage of that template. People use it to help others to avoid wasting time. Perhaps try the Idea Lab if you have a better suggestion. Polygnotus (talk) 11:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have often added that an editor has been indeffed, which I consider useful to others at Teahouse. But I was more thinking about your "Resolved" at the Kennedy kerfuffle rather than the edit warring editor. David notMD (talk) 12:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I thought you meant the other one because I responded to you there. In that case I think we agree that no one can add anything of value. About the Kennedy-stuff, the poster expressed suprise that Wikipedia does not mention a thing that he or she misremembered. I strongly doubt that anyone can add anything of value to that after the case of mistaken identity had been explained, but if there somehow is something worth adding then people are still able to do that. The resolved template does not automatically lock or archive the section; people can still edit it just like any other section. It is used to indicate that the question has been answered, not to scare people off from editing the section. In some cases discussions do get closed, often when they are not productive, but in that case people use {{atop}} and {{abot}}. I have used those, IIRC, once to boldly close a nonsensical discussion. Luckily no one edited that section after that because it was a waste of time. It would be nice if the Refdesks and Helpdesks and Teahouse had something like a little icon to indicate that a question has been answered, that could save people time. Polygnotus (talk) 12:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have often added that an editor has been indeffed, which I consider useful to others at Teahouse. But I was more thinking about your "Resolved" at the Kennedy kerfuffle rather than the edit warring editor. David notMD (talk) 12:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-42
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- The Structured Discussion extension (also known as Flow) is starting to be removed. This extension is unmaintained and causes issues. It will be replaced by DiscussionTools, which is used on any regular talk page. A first set of wikis are being contacted. These wikis are invited to stop using Flow, and to move all Flow boards to sub-pages, as archives. At these wikis, a script will move all Flow pages that aren't a sub-page to a sub-page automatically, starting on 22 October 2024. On 28 October 2024, all Flow boards at these wikis will be set in read-only mode. [18][19]
- WMF's Search Platform team is working on making it easier for readers to perform text searches in their language. A change last week on over 30 languages makes it easier to find words with accents and other diacritics. This applies to both full-text search and to types of advanced search such as the hastemplate and incategory keywords. More technical details (including a few other minor search upgrades) are available. [20]
- View all 20 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, EditCheck was installed at Russian Wikipedia, and fixes were made for some missing user interface styles.
Updates for technical contributors
- Editors who use the Toolforge tool Earwig's Copyright Violation Detector will now be required to log in with their Wikimedia account before running checks using the "search engine" option. This change is needed to help prevent external bots from misusing the system. Thanks to Chlod for these improvements. [21]
- Phabricator users can create tickets and add comments on existing tickets via Email again. Sending email to Phabricator has been fixed. [22]
- Some HTML elements in the interface are now wrapped with a
<bdi>
element, to make our HTML output more aligned with Web standards. More changes like this will be coming in future weeks. This change might break some tools that rely on the previous HTML structure of the interface. Note that relying on the HTML structure of the interface is not recommended and might break at any time. [23]
In depth
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes: updates on Wikimedia's authentication system, research to simplify feature development in the MediaWiki platform, updates on Parser Unification and MathML rollout, and more.
- The latest quarterly Technical Community Newsletter is now available. This edition include: research about improving topic suggestions related to countries, improvements to PHPUnit tests, and more.
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- Recent research: "As many as 5%" of new English Wikipedia articles "contain significant AI-generated content", says paper
- In the media: Off to the races! Wikipedia wins!
- Contest: A WikiCup for the Global South
- Traffic report: A scream breaks the still of the night
- Book review: The Editors
- Humour: The Newspaper Editors
- Crossword: Spilled Coffee Mug
Tech News: 2024-43
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- The Mobile Apps team has released an update to the iOS app's navigation, and it is now available in the latest App store version. The team added a new Profile menu that allows for easy access to editor features like Notifications and Watchlist from the Article view, and brings the "Donate" button into a more accessible place for users who are reading an article. This is the first phase of a larger planned navigation refresh to help the iOS app transition from a primarily reader-focused app, to an app that fully supports reading and editing. The Wikimedia Foundation has added more editing features and support for on-wiki communication based on volunteer requests in recent years.
Updates for editors
- Wikipedia readers can now download a browser extension to experiment with some early ideas on potential features that recommend articles for further reading, automatically summarize articles, and improve search functionality. For more details and to stay updated, check out the Web team's Content Discovery Experiments page and subscribe to their newsletter.
- Later this month, logged-out editors of these 12 wikis will start to have temporary accounts created. The list may slightly change - some wikis may be removed but none will be added. Temporary account is a new type of user account. It enhances the logged-out editors' privacy and makes it easier for community members to communicate with them. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 12 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. Guidance on how to update the code is available. Read more about the deployment plan across all wikis.
- View all 33 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the South Ndebele, Pannonian Rusyn, Obolo, Iban and Tai Nüa Wikipedia languages were created last week. [24][25][26][27][28]
- It is now possible to create functions on Wikifunctions using Wikidata lexemes, through the new Wikidata lexeme type launched last week. When you go to one of these functions, the user interface provides a lexeme selector that helps you pick a lexeme from Wikidata that matches the word you type. After hitting run, your selected lexeme is retrieved from Wikidata, transformed into a Wikidata lexeme type, and passed into the selected function. Read more about this in the latest Wikifunctions newsletter.
Updates for technical contributors
- Users of the Wikimedia sites can now format dates more easily in different languages with the new
{{#timef:…}}
parser function. For example,{{#timef:now|date|en}}
will show as "24 November 2024". Previously,{{#time:…}}
could be used to format dates, but this required knowledge of the order of the time and date components and their intervening punctuation.#timef
(or#timefl
for local time) provides access to the standard date formats that MediaWiki uses in its user interface. This may help to simplify some templates on multi-lingual wikis like Commons and Meta. [29][30] - Commons and Meta users can now efficiently retrieve the user's language using
{{USERLANGUAGE}}
instead of using{{int:lang}}
. [31] - The Product and Tech Advisory Council (PTAC) now has its pilot members with representation across Africa, Asia, Europe, North America and South America. They will work to address the Movement Strategy's Technology Council initiative of having a co-defined and more resilient technological platform. [32]
In depth
- The latest quarterly Growth newsletter is available. It includes: an upcoming Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module, new Community Configuration options, and details on new projects.
- The Wikimedia Foundation is now an official partner of the CVE program, which is an international effort to catalog publicly disclosed cybersecurity vulnerabilities. This partnership will allow the Security Team to instantly publish common vulnerabilities and exposures (CVE) records that are affecting MediaWiki core, extensions, and skins, along with any other code the Foundation is a steward of.
- The Community Wishlist is now testing machine translations for Wishlist content. Volunteers can now read machine-translated versions of wishes and dive into discussions even before translators arrive to translate content.
Meetings and events
- 24 October - Wiki Education Speaker Series Webinar - Open Source Tech: Building the Wiki Education Dashboard, featuring Wikimedia interns and a Web developer in the panel.
- 20–22 December 2024 - Indic Wikimedia Hackathon Bhubaneswar 2024 in Odisha, India. A hackathon for community members, including developers, designers and content editors, to build technical solutions that improve contributors' experiences.
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Tech News: 2024-44
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Later in November, the Charts extension will be deployed to the test wikis in order to help identify and fix any issue. A security review is underway to then enable deployment to pilot wikis for broader testing. You can read the October project update and see the latest documentation and examples on Beta Wikipedia.
- View all 32 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, Pediapress.com, an external service that creates books from Wikipedia, can now use Wikimedia Maps to include existing pre-rendered infobox map images in their printed books on Wikipedia. [33]
Updates for technical contributors
- Wikis can use the Guided Tour extension to help newcomers understand how to edit. The Guided Tours extension now works with dark mode. Guided Tour maintainers can check their tours to see that nothing looks odd. They can also set
emitTransitionOnStep
totrue
to fix an old bug. They can use the new flagallowAutomaticBack
to avoid back-buttons they don't want. [34] - Administrators in the Wikimedia projects who use the Nuke Extension will notice that mass deletions done with this tool have the "Nuke" tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. [35]
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Notice of neutral point of view noticeboard discussion
[edit]There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.DaveApter (talk) 11:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Polygnotus (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-45
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Stewards can now make global account blocks cause global autoblocks. This will assist stewards in preventing abuse from users who have been globally blocked. This includes preventing globally blocked temporary accounts from exiting their session or switching browsers to make subsequent edits for 24 hours. Previously, temporary accounts could exit their current session or switch browsers to continue editing. This is an anti-abuse tool improvement for the Temporary Accounts project. You can read more about the progress on key features for temporary accounts. [36]
- Wikis that have the CampaignEvents extension enabled can now use the Collaboration List feature. This list provides a new, easy way for contributors to learn about WikiProjects on their wikis. Thanks to the Campaign team for this work that is part of the 2024/25 annual plan. If you are interested in bringing the CampaignEvents extension to your wiki, you can follow these steps or you can reach out to User:Udehb-WMF for help.
- The text color for red links will be slightly changed later this week to improve their contrast in light mode. [37]
- View all 32 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, on multilingual wikis, users can now hide translations from the WhatLinksHere special page.
Updates for technical contributors
- XML data dumps have been temporarily paused whilst a bug is investigated. [38]
In depth
- Temporary Accounts have been deployed to six wikis; thanks to the Trust and Safety Product team for this work, you can read about the deployment plans. Beginning next week, Temporary Accounts will also be enabled on seven other projects. If you are active on these wikis and need help migrating your tools, please reach out to User:Udehb-WMF for assistance.
- The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization newsletter is available. It includes: New languages supported in translatewiki or in MediaWiki; New keyboard input methods for some languages; details about recent and upcoming meetings, and more.
Meetings and events
- MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024 is happening in Vienna, Austria and online from 4 to 6 November 2024. The conference will feature discussions around the usage of MediaWiki software by and within companies in different industries and will inspire and onboard new users.
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MediaWiki message delivery 20:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 6 November 2024
[edit]- From the editors: Editing Wikipedia should not be a crime
- In the media: An old scrimmage, politics and purported libel
- Special report: Wikipedia editors face litigation, censorship
- Traffic report: Twisted tricks or tempting treats?
Tech News: 2024-46
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- On wikis with the Translate extension enabled, users will notice that the FuzzyBot will now automatically create translated versions of categories used on translated pages. [39]
- View all 29 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the submitted task to use the SecurePoll extension for English Wikipedia's special administrator election was resolved on time. [40]
Updates for technical contributors
- In
1.44.0-wmf-2
, the logic of Wikibase functiongetAllStatements
changed to behave likegetBestStatements
. Invoking the function now returns a copy of values which are immutable. [41] - Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. The API will be rerouting some page content endpoints from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints. The impacted endpoints include getting page/revision metadata and rendered HTML content. These changes will be available on testwiki later this week, with other projects to follow. This change should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints should verify behavior on testwiki, and raise any concerns on the related Phabricator ticket.
In depth
- Admins and users of the Wikimedia projects where Automoderator is enabled can now monitor and evaluate important metrics related to Automoderator's actions. This Superset dashboard calculates and aggregates metrics about Automoderator's behaviour on the projects in which it is deployed. Thanks to the Moderator Tools team for this Dashboard; you can visit the documentation page for more information about this work. [42]
Meetings and events
- 21 November 2024 (8:00 UTC & 16:00 UTC) - Community call with Wikimedia Commons volunteers and stakeholders to help prioritize support efforts for 2025-2026 Fiscal Year. The theme of this call is how content should be organised on Wikimedia Commons.
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A Litter of Kittens for You
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Thank you for your contributions, Polygnotus. Enjoy this litter of kittens, all for you! Firecat93 (talk) 21:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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Tech News: 2024-47
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Users of Wikimedia sites will now be warned when they create a redirect to a page that doesn't exist. This will reduce the number of broken redirects to red links in our projects. [43]
- View all 42 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, Pywikibot, which automates work on MediaWiki sites, was upgraded to 9.5.0 on Toolforge. [44]
Updates for technical contributors
- On wikis that use the FlaggedRevs extension, pages created or moved by users with the appropriate permissions are marked as flagged automatically. This feature has not been working recently, and changes fixing it should be deployed this week. Thanks to Daniel and Wargo for working on this. [45][46]
In depth
- There is a new Diff post about Temporary Accounts, available in more than 15 languages. Read it to learn about what Temporary Accounts are, their impact on different groups of users, and the plan to introduce the change on all wikis.
Meetings and events
- Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10 2024. The registration for the event will close in mid-April 2025. The Wikimedia Hackathon is an annual gathering that unites the global technical community to collaborate on existing projects and explore new ideas.
- Join the Wikimedia Commons community calls this week to help prioritize support for Commons which will be planned for 2025–2026. The theme will be how content should be organised on Wikimedia Commons. This is an opportunity for volunteers who work on different things to come together and talk about what matters for the future of the project. The calls will take place November 21, 2024, 8:00 UTC and 16:00 UTC.
- A Language community meeting will take place November 29, 16:00 UTC to discuss updates and technical problem-solving.
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