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Captains

Hi. Please do not change the captains on articles unless they are made permanent captain. For example, in the Australia cricket team, do not change the ODI captain to Smith because he is just filling in for Cummins for one series. He has not been made permanent captain. Unless there is an announcement that someone was made permanent captain, please do not change the captains. Thanks, Hamza Ali Shah ^Talk 01:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 2024

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to India national cricket team. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use your sandbox. Thank you. Hamza Ali Shah ^Talk 18:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at India national cricket team, you may be blocked from editing. Hamza Ali Shah ^Talk 15:52, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Australia national cricket team. Hamza Ali Shah ^Talk 16:17, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Australia Captain

Please stop changing the captains of the Australian cricket team. You have not given any reason for your changes and have just been reverting constantly. Constant unjustified reverting can lead to further action. Hamza Ali Shah ^Talk 21:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If you use the word "vandalism" to describe the edits of an opponent in a content dispute again [1], I will block you, potentially indefinitely. Vandalism has a very specific meaning, and clearly does not apply here. Daniel (talk) 22:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake! Hadn’t seen that article so didn’t realise bad edits aren’t vandalism in wikis opinion… Therlinsideman (talk) 05:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cricket player infobox roles

Hi. I have been noticing that you are making a number of edits on articles about cricket players and changing their role shown in the infobox. Just letting you know that I have reverted a few of these edits as they do not align with the role that is represented in most sources. While ESPNcricinfo does provide a reasonable database on player roles, some are outdated. For example, in the case of Nathan McSweeney, while ESPNcricinfo does list them as an all-rounder, a majority of recent sources [2] [3] [4] list them as a specialist batter. Sometimes the ESPNcricinfo database does not provide accurate or up-to-date information, and it may be best to look elsewhere. Posting this here as I think it is unproductive to engage in back and forth reverting (see WP:WAR). Thanks. --Lucyisonwiki (talk) 13:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

espncricinfo has always been the source for players roles, as it is the biggest free database Therlinsideman (talk) 13:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While they are a big database with player roles, they are not always correct as exampled in my original comment. I would suggest that you read the articles that I provided as they contradict what is said on the ESPNcricinfo profile. Specfically, The Sydney Morning Herald "The 25-year-old will be the first specialist batter to debut for Australia’s men’s Test team since Will Pucovski in 2021.", cricket.com.au "The Brisbane-born batter..", and ESPNcricinfo “The top-order batter is already highly regarded..". Lucyisonwiki (talk) 13:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes he bats in the top order but he can also bowl aswell. Ben Maenti use to be listed as a bowling all-rounder but espn recently removed that tag because he is a bowler. Therlinsideman (talk) 13:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Travis Head is also a batter who can bowl, but they aren't listed as an all-rounder in any sources (in fact they are still listed as a wicket keeper which is very outdated). In the case of Ben Manenti, they are listed as an all-rounder on the player profile page on Adelaide Strikers, SACA, and cricket.com.au websites. This is also supported by a number of articles ESPNcricinfo "Offspinning allrounder Ben Manenti starred with bat and ball..", cricket.com.au "the hard-hitting allrounder..", and ABC "The South Australian Redbacks all-rounder is..". It's unfortunately not as simple as the player role stated on ESPNcricinfo. Lucyisonwiki (talk) 14:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ESPN is the stat source for the infobox so thats why its their role. When players retire these club roles arent kept so its best to use espn. Brisbane Heat lists McSweeney as an all rounder. Therlinsideman (talk) 14:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While the club roles may not be kept, the articles that contradict the role stated by ESPNcricinfo will be. As I have shown, an overwhelming majority of sources list McSweeney as a batter who can bowl part-time spin, which does not indicate that they are an all-rounder. Batting and bowling statistics cannot be used to determine whether a player is an all-rounder or not, for example (in an extreme case) Alastair Cook has a first-class batting average of 46.41 and a bowling average of 32.00 and they have never been listed as an all-rounder. In the case of Travis Head, in Tests they average 41.75 batting and 32.41 with the ball but are not listed as an all-rounder. McSweeney is a part-time bowler, this is evident here SACA "A middle-order batter and handy off-spin bowler" and here cricket.com.au ""So I'll be straight under there as well," said McSweeney, whose part-time off-spin was also referenced by national selector George Bailey as a factor in his call-up.". Lucyisonwiki (talk) 14:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Head is a part time bowler, look at McSweeneys last 10 matches, he has bowled in 7 of them. Thats without including double innings for first class matches. Travis Head hardly bowls. Therlinsideman (talk) 14:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Travis Head averages over 60 with the ball in first class matches, @ 51+ in list a, compared to McSweeney @ 30.88 FC, 42 LA, 11.25 T20. Therlinsideman (talk) 14:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]