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-===19 May 2017===
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-====Suspected sockpuppets====
-* {{checkuser|1=Somajeeste}}
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-*[http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=AcidSnow User compare report] <small>''Auto-generated every hour.''</small>
-*[http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility]
-Back in January, AcidSnow tried to nominate [[Isaaq genocide]] for deletion, but bungled the AfD nomination process ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Isaaq Genocide]] was deleted, but admins will be able to see the history - see also my post at [[User_talk:AcidSnow#Isaaq Genocide AfD]]). Last week, {{u|Somajeeste}} also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Isaaq_genocide&diff=780124695&oldid=777552821 bungled] an attempt to nominate the article for deletion. At first, I thought that this was just a coincidence, but comparing the editing histories of the two accounts has raised my suspicions. Compare [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Somaliland&diff=prev&oldid=781140767 this edit] by Somajeeste with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Isaaq_genocide&diff=760415586&oldid=760368220 this] by AcidSnow (e.g. the passage starting {{tq|For those that did use the term "genocide", such as AlJazzera}} appears, slightly modified, in both). [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 12:12, 19 May 2017 (UTC) [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 12:12, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-:Both users are also pretty insistent that the article should be redirected to the article on the Somali Rebellion, with suspiciously similar use of words: compare [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isaaq_genocide&diff=prev&oldid=760073160 this] ("As mentioned before, the Isaaq weren't the only clan persecuted. The Somali Rebellion article already mentions some of the conflict") with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ms_Sarah_Welch&diff=prev&oldid=781142463 this] ("what this guy is referring is kind of duplicate from Somali Rebellion, these events are already partly mentioned on the Somali Rebellion article along with those of other clans"). Not necessarily damning on its own, maybe, but combined with the evidence above... [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 12:26, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-::Similar situation with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Somaliland&diff=738480655&oldid=738269600 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Somaliland&diff=780204785&oldid=778449471 this]. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 12:51, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-:I'm also suspicious that there's a link with {{u|Middayexpress}} here, and that there are potentially other sock- or meatpuppets. See [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive888#Middayexpress's external canvassing]] for some of the background. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 12:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-====<big>Comments by other users</big>====
-<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small>
-: This is ridiculous, and it is just harassment against me (by taking groundless accusation of someone with disruptive editing who drives his POV-agenda). i genuinely thought you were neutral editor but now i see where you coming from, and now to accuse me of sockpuppeteering is beyond my thinking, Good lucky with that.[[User:Somajeeste|Somajeeste]] ([[User talk:Somajeeste|talk]]) 12:41, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-:It's hardly groundless, {{u|Somajeeste}} - as demonstrated above, you have made comments worded identically to those made by AcidSnow. If there is an innocent explanation for that, you would be well advised to give it here. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 12:44, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-It appears both accounts (AcidSnow, Somajeeste) have canvassed the same editor for their respective AfD nominations:
-AcidSnow [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Soupforone&oldid=760132715], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Soupforone&diff=760140997&oldid=760132968].
-Somajeeste [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Soupforone&diff=prev&oldid=780284585].[[User:Kzl55|Kzl55]] ([[User talk:Kzl55|talk]]) 13:07, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-*'''Support''' a checkuser for Somajeeste and AcidSnow. Additional evidence: both champion a redirect ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isaaq_genocide&diff=prev&oldid=760046837 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isaaq_genocide&diff=next&oldid=760061350 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ms_Sarah_Welch&diff=781142463&oldid=781139842 3]) wherein both allege [[Isaaq genocide]] is covered by [[Somali Rebellion]] when it doesn't. More evidence is the identical source links by both ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Somaliland&diff=prev&oldid=781150776 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Isaaq_genocide&diff=prev&oldid=760423309 5]): https://books.google.com/books?id=0lXJ6nHj5HIC&dq=%22Hawiye+were+considered+comparable+in+scale%22&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Government+atrocities+inflicted+on+the+Hawiye+were+considered+comparable+in+scale+to+those+against+the+Majeerteen+and+Isaaq.%22 four months apart. Parse that and other embedded google search terms by the two users in the provided links. [[User:Ms Sarah Welch|Ms Sarah Welch]] ([[User talk:Ms Sarah Welch|talk]]) 15:59, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
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