Wikimedia Canada is hosting a virtual session about The Wikipedia Library on August 28, 2024 at 12 p.m. EDT. We'll be talking about what it is, who qualifies to use it, as well as highlighting some resources available through the Wikipedia Library that may be of interest for contributors that focus on Canadian topics. Please visit the event page to register. This session will also be recorded for those unable to attend.
Hi everyone, I just wanted share the recording of the Wikipedia Library event: Wikipedia Library Introduction (YouTube) for those of you who weren't able to attend. We are still in the process of adding French captions but as soon as those are done we will also be posting the recording on Commons. Best, Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 17:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've initiated a merge discussion at Talk:Sons of Butcher (band), proposing that we merge Sons of Butcher (band) with Sons of Butcher (TV series) into a single article instead of two separate ones. The TV series absolutely passes WP:TVSHOW criteria, while it is not at all clear that the band would pass WP:NMUSIC separately from that — fundamentally, the TV show is the band's basis for notability, while there really isn't any significant coverage about the band as a standalone topic independently of the TV show, so it really isn't clear why we would need two articles instead of one. And although both articles are very poorly sourced at present and require improvement, the fact that the band's coverage is almost entirely in the context of the TV show means that the TV show article is much more readily repairable than the band article is.
Additionally, if the articles are merged, then the disambiguation page at Sons of Butcher will become entirely unnecessary, as the only things on it are the band, the TV series, and a self-titled album that exists solely as a redirect to the band rather than a standalone article. So if there is a consensus established to merge them, then the final article should just be located directly at Sons of Butcher.
Ottawa Senators (original) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"First Nations" or "Canadian First Nations" on first mention, Paulina Alexis
Until recently, Paulina Alexis had the short description Canadian actress and was mentioned in the first sentence as a First Nations actress. An IP added Canadian to the first sentence so it read Canadian First Nations actress, and JDDJS removed both uses of Canadian to they both read First Nations actress. I submit that the term may be unfamiliar enough that adding Canadian on first mention and in the short description would help readers, but I also understand that some First Nations people may not consider themselves Canadian. I wanted to bring this to the project where editors might have more informed opinions. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Canadian First Nations is redundant in my opinion, like saying an American-Puerto Rican. First Nations is generally what we used, but I wouldn't be opposed to using Indigenous Canadian if people find that a clearer statement. I just added what tribe she's a citizen to the lead as well. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done)20:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason I wanted to bring it to discussion—I'd like to see clarity, but I am unsure if it is a good idea—is because of the identity issue at play. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking that as well, but the link for First Nations there specifically links to the Canadian context, and Alberta is mentioned before long. Among a few awkward choices I think the way it is might be better than "Canadian First Nations" "...who was born in Canada" or whatever else someone would come up with. Dan Carkner (talk) 01:08, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given the example of Wilma Mankiller provided in that section, and the contents of the essay linked from that, I don't think omission is that clear-cut. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:21, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I said. It would need to be a case by case basis. There isn't a one size fits all. Is Paulina Alexis notable because she's an actress or because she's First Nations or because she's a First Nations actress? Is Mary Simon notable because she's Inuk, the GG or a combination of both? Is Pam Gross notable as an Inuk (most Nunavut politicians are Inuit) or because she's a politician? I feel that Pam is notable as a politician rather than being Inuk. Mary Simon both because she's the first Indigenous GG of Canada. As for Paulina Alexis i don't know enough about her to say if her being First Nations is as notable as being an actress. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva02:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the problem is that since Australian indigenous people also now use "First Nations", saying that somebody is "First Nations" without also specifying that they're Canadian is now ambiguous in a way that wasn't true five or ten years ago. So we can certainly discuss how the dual inclusion of both First Nations and Canadian is phrased for maximum respect to the article subjects' feelings (I've always personally gone with "So-and-So is a [Specific First Nation] [occupation] from Canada"), but we simply can't ever just say somebody is "First Nations" without "Canadian" anymore, because "First Nations" without mentioning a country at all is unclear as to whether they're a Canadian indigenous person or an Australian indigenous person (which are very different things.) I have, for the record, already had to clean up the former Category:First Nations for the misfiling of several indigenous Australian topics in it, and have already had it moved via WP:CFR to Category:First Nations in Canada — some of its subcategories still need to be renamed for the same ambiguity problem, however: I don't think things like "First Nations in [Specific Canadian Province]" would need that, but things like Category:First Nations films and Category:First Nations musicwill. Bearcat (talk) 19:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.
If anyone is interested, I started a stub about the one-day general strike in October 1976 against Federal wage controls. It was the largest protest day in Canadian history and there are a fair number of sources on the article. If you can help me expand it, I think it can be a very important article. Thanks!--User:Namiba14:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Next Line has been unsourced since 2009. "Next Line" + "Kevin Frank" turned up zero results on newspapers.com and GBooks. Google itself even asked "did you mean Kevin Franke" while giving only fan forums, Wikipedia mirrors, and the like. Throwing this out there to see if maybe someone could find something I missed. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?)18:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TenPoundHammer: On Newspapers.com, if you search "The Next Line" or "The Next Line" game show and add a location filter for British Columbia, you'll get a few hits. A lot of them are just TV schedules but there's a few short articles here and there. I'll add a couple to the article. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!21:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just created a draft for Apt613, a news website that covers arts and culture in the Ottawa-Gatineau region. I’d appreciate any help finding sources. I expected to find some from a quick search, but didn’t immediately find any. Thriley (talk) 23:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Following the recent BC election, when exactly does BC United leader Kevin Falcon cease being the Leader of the Opposition in that province? (See [1]) and when does Conservative leader John Rustad become Leader of the Opposition? Do both events occur on the same date and are one or both of the dates: a) September 21, when the previous legislature dissolved b) October 19, when the subsequent election occurred c) upcoming date when the new legislature is reconvened d) some other date in between? Wellington Bay (talk) 13:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Being leader of the opposition ends when the legislature dissolves, so September 21 is the correct end date for Falcon. But since a person can't lead the opposition until the legislature is in session, Rustad's time doesn't start until the new legislature reconvenes — because the leader of the opposition's entire job takes place in the legislature, and doesn't have outside-of-the-legislature duties at all, being an officer of the legislature doesn't work the same way as being a member of the legislature in that regard. The legislature doesn't have to be in session to be a member, but it does have to be in session to establish officers. However, since we know that John Rustad will be the new leader of the opposition, you were entirely correct that Rustad's name doesn't need to be entirely commented out of the successor field in Falcon's article — visible name with "pending" after it is indeed the correct way to handle that. In the extremely unlikely event that something changes in the interim, so that Rustad doesn't actually get installed as leader of the opposition and some other Conservative MLA gets that job instead, then we can just change the name in Falcon's successor field if and when that happens. But the legislature does have to convene before there can be a leader of the opposition, so the start date on that job is the date of the legislature convening. Bearcat (talk) 14:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now I'm wondering if we have the correct dates in the transition of Leader of the Opposition in Alberta from Notley to Gray. Currently our articles say it happened in June, when the NDP leader Nenshi announced it to the media, but although the legislature was in session, it was during the long summer adjournment. Should it be dated to when the fall sitting began in late October? Indefatigable (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We keep the successor in an office infobox hidden, until they've taken office. An RFC on this matter was held a few years ago & the result was to "hide". GoodDay (talk) 16:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
