@@ -2903,3 +2903,104 @@ I regret I do not currently have time to pursue further.
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Best Regards, Simon Riggs
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+ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:31:50 +0100
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+ To: Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
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+ Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Cost of XLogInsert CRC calculations
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+ > One of the things I was thinking about was whether we could use up those
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+ > cycles more effectively. If we were to include a compression routine
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+ > before we calculated the CRC that would
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+ > - reduce the size of the blocks to be written, hence reduce size of xlog
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+ > - reduce the following CRC calculation
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+ >
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+ > I was thinking about using a simple run-length encoding to massively
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+ > shrink half-empty blocks with lots of zero padding, but we've already
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+ > got code to LZW the data down also.
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+ >
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+ > Best Regards, Simon Riggs
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+ >
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+ >
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+ Simon,
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+ I think having a compression routine in there could make real sense.
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+ We have done some major I/O testing involving compression for a large
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+ customer some time ago. We have seen that compressing / decompressing on
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+ the fly is in MOST cases much faster than uncompressed I/O (try a simple
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+ "cat file | ..." vs." zcat file.gz | ...") - the zcat version will be
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+ faster on all platforms we have tried (Linux, AIX, Sun on some SAN
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+ system, etc. ...).
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+ Also, when building up a large database within one transaction the xlog
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+ will eat a lot of storage - this can be quite annoying when you have to
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+ deal with a lot of data).
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+ Are there any technical reasons which would prevent somebody from
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+ implementing compression?
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+ Best regards,
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+ Hans
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