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Diss netstats: should they be -Persist or StartingNet-Persist? #55

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martinamorris opened this issue Jun 18, 2021 · 3 comments
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it looks like the current implementation is Diss() = -Persist().

i get that this is correct in the sense that produces the right coefficient.

but the Diss() netstat is not what one might expect: the number of ties that dissolved.

we probably need to make this clear in the documentation, and point out that the tEdgeDissolution() function in tsna can be used on a nD object to calculate the dissolved ties.

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krivit commented Jun 18, 2021

In principle, it may be possible to redefine the Diss() operator to compute the decrease in the statistic in the post-dissolution network relative the previous time step's network. The parameter estimates, which depend only on change statistics, shouldn't be affected.

Should Form() then be redefined as the increase?

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i'm not quite sure how to interpret your suggestion. sticking with the simple edges-only model:

  • the STERGM terms have always been the union (Form) and intersection (Persist), so we can't just change the definition, right?
  • the number of new edges from t0 to t1 is a different but related statistic (Form - edges(t0))
  • the number of dissolved edges is also different (edges(t0) - Persist)
  • the changestats are dyad level stats, not network level

i can explain all of these, and their relationships, but i didn't think you could just redefine the network level stats at will.

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krivit commented Jun 19, 2021

Sort of. Since the previous time step's network is conditioned on, shifting the Form statistic or what have you by the previous network's statistic will not change the probability model. That said, I certainly don't think we should be making that change at this stage.

@martinamorris martinamorris changed the title Diss netstats Diss netstats: should they be -Persist or StartingNet-Persist? Jun 23, 2021
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