[Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

[Hubert]

Dear Andreas,

This is, what I wanted to express. But it is not only a quite different
etymology, it is also a definition of gender-related positions to be
interpreted and applied.

But what we care about minorities - as I always say - as long as they
representing only women, children, homosexuals and cyclists.

Based on needs of minorities, the majority always knows better what has
to be good for them.

In our case it´s a little bit different, this seems, that an ivory tower
conference knows exactly how the community will solve the problem - what
should categorized as violence-, sexuality- and religious-related.

Meanwhile, I prefer the following solution:

Everyone, who will not understand and perceive the world so as it is,
should unsubscribe his internet connection - just like his newspaper
subscription, radio and television and - of course - any advertising on
streets. And this individuals should deny any public schools for their
children.

And I mean this not in a depreciatory way. Maybe, this may be a better
world.

I just hope, they will even throw the bible then.

h.

Am 10.10.2011 20:37, schrieb Andreas Kolbe:
> Hubert, 
> 
> The fact is that the English word "violence" has a quite different etymology, and a much narrower meaning, than the German word "Gewalt", which historically also means "control", or even "administrative competence".
> 
> The scope of the English article is indeed appropriate to the English word "violence", because that word lacks several shades of meaning that the German word "Gewalt" has.
> 
> Andreas 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Hubert <hubert.laska at gmx.at>
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Monday, 10 October 2011, 18:58
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content
> 
> David, did you read the german article completely?
> have you compared the contents of which part of the concept of violence
> and more attention is paid to what portion of the term violence in en:
> wp did not occur?
> 
> Gewalt ist nicht unbedingt in gleicher Form Gewalt.
> 
> to say it simply: hitting someones head, to shoot s.o. is in en: WP the
> primary part of the article (this is very simplifying, indeed). The
> German article is a far greater degree of philosophical and sociological
> issues of violence.
> 
> This difference alone makes it clear that a single definition of what
> violence is or may be, and how it manifests itself in images, can not
> even enter.
> 
> Quite frankly, I do not want that maybe people who are socialized to a
> far greater degree in a culture of violence than other cultures can be
> categorized by images of tens of thousands to impose his concept of
> violence.
> 
> Even though we are all Wikipedians, even within the German Wikipedia,
> there are significant cultural differences.
> 
> And violence is - contrary to religion and sexuality - just the smaller
> problem.
> h
> 
> Am 10.10.2011 12:22, schrieb David Gerard:
>> On 10 October 2011 11:17, Hubert <hubert.laska at gmx.at> wrote:
>>> Am 09.10.2011 16:35, schrieb Anneke Wolf:
>>
>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewalt
>>
>>> dear Anneke,
>>> +1
>>> and see the basic difference and the disaccordance in understanding and
>>> meaning of violence.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence
>>
>>
>> I don't understand what point is being made here.
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
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