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This would be useful for any kind of work related to extensions and evaluating the relative "presence" of content types on different wikis. For example, I had a question related to WikiProjects, wanting to understand a) how many namespaces had a seperate WikiProject namespace, and b) if we could evaluate that content.
Jul 24 2024
@ifried I want to endorse the idea of sharing the event list afterwards, this would be a consistent way in which folks who have participated in community in some way (or expressed interest) could be reengaged without a significant amount of organizer-centered responsibility (i.e. retention or introduction to a future movement activity should be our shared responsibility, not the individual organizer).
Jul 23 2024
Jul 10 2024
There are handful of types of situations like this:
- In person events where attendees may not be editing alot
- Webinars where both online registration and participation, that may be hard for the organizer to keep track of the participants
- Events that are part of a series of events, where attendees are expecting to join one but not all of the activities.
Jul 2 2024
Sorry didn't respond to the earlier question: yes, I think putting it near notifications is sensible, it starts to create a space in the area where we are going to be doing other kinds of communication eventually.
Jun 19 2024
Jun 12 2024
I would also include a link to where the user can request turning it on -- until it gets turned on in Event Registration -- the tendency of organizers is not to always know how to triage these kinds of problems, so a link to either Community Configuration discussion (eventually) or in the short term a phabricator ticket for requesting to turn on the tools for the language might be helpful.
May 30 2024
May 29 2024
May 24 2024
So in theory you could do this with Javascript using: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template_gadgets, but you have this competing use case of things like Diff Calendar-- Transcludable with parameters I think would be a partial solution (and maybe a little quicker to allow) but wouldn't allow as much customization of context. However, a transcludable widget might allow us to do other things (like embed in other pages like the NewComer Homepage). I would love to weigh the different options here.
May 21 2024
www.wikifunctions.org, wikisource.org, species.wikimedia.org, meta.wikimedia.org and commons.wikimedia.org alongside Wikidata.
May 13 2024
@Miriam yep exactly the Q2 discussions should be part of 1.1.3, and some Q1 awareness building and WikiProject identification are covered in 1.1.2. The idea is that these consultations/outreach processes feed into eachother in a way that keeps us from doing too many parallel outreach moments for different related things (from the perspective of organizers/editors).
May 9 2024
As a brief followup note to @Isaac above: I am currently reviewing the data collected by Isaac, and comparing it with the reported use of WikiProjects and other topical collaborations in community reporting areas such as Diff and This Month in GLAM -- to be better understand the topical networks that would most be prepared for having the conversation identified in the "history/society" and other topics like climate/biodiversity/sustianability identifed by Isaac. I currently have a sketched timeframe for targeted data modeling discussions about the rebuild in Q2 of FY24-25.
Apr 26 2024
@Miriam Sounds good! Yeah, we have two layers of work that I think need to happen: first examining the topic areas that we have signal from the Grants space and seeing if we can build for those(which @Rmaung has the most recent data on) and then thinking about how we can gain the most insight from the communities we do have to improve the overall data model to reflect on and offwiki organizing beyond enwiki. I am going to work with Isaac next week to figure out how complex some of the methodologies might be, and propose a timeline or process.
Apr 15 2024
Apr 11 2024
In a 24 hour period: 40 configuration interactions from the organizer? 6-10 registration actions from the editor? It should be just enough to get them to cool down what they are doing, without being too restrictive -- and create enough space for them to make mistakes are being indecisive.
I would consider doing something, like putting rate limits in a short window of time (i.e. x number of interactions in a 24 or 48 hour period). The thing you want to do is prevent a short term accidental misuse that effects others, rather than actually having someone who is having a bunch of tweaks to the tool right?
Apr 8 2024
After discussions with @Isaac and @Pginer-WMF So one feature that I don't think we are paying attention to yet is to "relative importance" of the article in the domains that its related to. We use a lot of shortcuts (such as pageviews, and interrellated links), but there is a lot of curated information on the wikis already about editor evaluation of importance that we could be using.
Mar 14 2024
@M0tty exactly: the Event List and Registration are focused on the participant finding and registering for an event, but the Event Center and the Dashboard are for the organizer to create ways to register participants (Event Center) and track activity (Dashboard) -- for a "contribute" button focused on random user wanting to find an activity: searching through the Dashboard is not very helpful -- especially if most of the events don't have any description or readable information in your own language (remember we are supporting 300 languages, 600+ wikis), whereas the Event List T355666 will be meant to provide a one place, with translatable and searchable interface for finding events with features like sorting by the language you plan to contribute in, finding events for your geography, etc.
@M0tty I recommend strongly against surfacing the dashboard: especially for non-English speakers, and for new-to-the-Wikimedia-movement participants, the interface of the dashboard is overwhelming (we have repeatedly encountered this in user feedback). I think what happened in the last ticket is that it focuses on the Organizer facing tool (Event center) which would not be relevant to most folks clicking on Contribute where you probably want the participant facing tool at: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T355666
Feb 19 2024
+1 this is super painful - it should be a floating button. There should be a sort to handle redlinks and redirects as well -- so you can focus on different types of content to remove from the list
Feb 15 2024
This becomes more important as we try to roll out to Wiki Loves Campaigns on Commons as well.
Feb 7 2024
May 22 2023
@Iflorez +1 to everything you said -- make sense to me.
Apr 26 2023
Mar 31 2023
@Lectrician1 I think the problem, is that this becomes the _main_ link in focus now on the notification, so encourages a behavior that is mostly useful for power users (i.e. people with way too much on their watchlist/content creation history). I would recommend that it not take most of 2/3s of the visible space on the page, consisder how smooth the design of the other notifications is.
Mar 30 2023
As for starting registration for events: 56 days is super generous. I can't think of a situation where folks are registering more than 30 days out (you have to remember most of the "actions" that organizers want people to do are easy to forget about if you don't do it in a timely manner).
Mar 8 2023
We may want to include "which languages do you plan to contribute in?" in that its both technically easy to do (use the language lists from the projects) and will improve the signals that Irene and the P&E dashboard can create in terms of metrics (one of the problems right now is that most of the tracking tools in the movement require prior knowledge of the language someone plans to contribute in). This is unlikely to be common in small events, but international writing contests this is key for tracking.
Mar 1 2023
Feb 28 2023
A good example of this is that there are emerging communities of practice on both Human Rights and Sustainability topic areas which are impossible to map to the ORES models, and don't make sense for WikiProjects as a 1:1 especially as we get into broader multi-community activities.
@ldelench_wmf topic of interest should come later once we start picking topic domains for events themselves -- we need the topic areas to be configurable in a flexible way -- the ORES taxonomy and the WikiProjects are both highly inaccurate and not useful for newcomers, especially when trying to form multilingual, multicultural cross community activities.
So one thing to think about is that most of the new accounts will be created before an event, potentially immediately before registering (won't be the same workflow).
Feb 22 2023
I believe that the standard to include "male, female, non-binary, and other" with an option not to be able to participate. @JStephenson may have more insight on how its being used now.
Feb 9 2023
Aug 10 2022
Jul 6 2022
Nov 10 2021
@ifried am not worried about the edits not coming from those countries: we know that the organizers are there, and they are running events -- especially in DRC, Uganda and Rwanda -- the challenge is often seeing their contributions -- of organized activity in general -- and then also we know that the organizers have some serious efficacy gaps in editing events in SSA (its hard to identify productive & persistent audiences, retaining those audiences is challenging, and leveling them up to the right skills is also challenging). We are also missing some of the most important campaigns for the region so far, WikiLoves Africa, Wiki Loves Women and WikiGap (at least according to the checklist).
Sep 3 2021
Appears to be driving traffic on English now as well: https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=all-time&pages=Cleopatra
Jul 16 2021
May 22 2021
Apr 29 2021
@kzimmerman my partner set up her voice search for her new android phone -- I suspect it has all of the vowels that are common in spanish.
Mar 15 2021
Dec 3 2020
Sep 17 2020
Aug 27 2020
Personally, I would just exclude a few of the namespaces or fork them into a seperate percentage (i.e. % used on Project and User pages): Project space (which is 4?) and user space (which is 2?) Neither of them is supposed to be used for "content" in the browsable sense -- for the GLAM tools, its less of a big deal that they track these secondary uses because the high level metric that most of them want to report is pageviews - but in this case, the usage rate is way more important because of the metric is an indicator of organizing success.
Aug 19 2020
Aug 7 2020
Apr 1 2020
So I am on the Beta app, and it stopped doing this in the most recent update.
@kzimmerman sounds like a good plan -- when should we do that? Do you want to pull aside some time in the next couple weeks?
Mar 27 2020
I keep getting hit by this on multiple tools that I use in my volunteer capacity: it keeps kicking me off outh in my normal workflows with this error:
Mar 19 2020
Mar 6 2020
@EvanProdromou is the new owner of these kinds of conversations: how do you want to capture this?
Mar 3 2020
@Isaac and @bmansurov -- thank you so much this is awesome!
Mar 2 2020
Awesome all -- thanks for this -- really a cool example of collaboration on a targeted topic like this :)
Feb 28 2020
I think that works as long as @Isaac and @bmansurov can integrate it into the tool.
Feb 24 2020
- We are using the campaign WikiGapFinder to tag articles translated when using this tool -- i.e. we pass this tag to the Content Translation which then will make it an edit tag when the article is created. Is that okay? Will you be able to capture this through your dashboards still?
Feb 18 2020
@bmansurov will you be able to track the number of uses during the campaign? It would be interesting to get the stats on effectiveness and usage.
Nevermind, I purged my cache and it appears to be working now.
@bmansurov When I left the language (by choosing espanol instead of svenska), it surfaced non-WikiGAP articles.
Dec 2 2019
Nov 26 2019
Nov 24 2019
Nov 13 2019
Oct 31 2019
yeah, so I start typing, and try to select one of the options: but it opens a new tab. I am on Android devices, editing in Chrome, asking for the desktop version of the site so that I can edit the Structured Data -- in particular I would like to be able to do AC/DC while watching tv, while using a tablet :P
Oct 30 2019
Oct 15 2019
@Maximilianklein we are building a prototype with @Slaporte at the WikiConference North America Hackathon: would be happy to workshop it there with you all? Are you going?
Sep 25 2019
@Mvolz this should be closed right?
Sep 24 2019
Sep 12 2019
Adding a few more people who might have ideas on applications or needs: @Fuzheado, @Multichill @SandraF_WMF @Lokal_Profil @Yarl
Hey all, so I wrote a requirement for something that could be a rewrite of the Monumental software by @Yarl and @Slaporte. I have been shopping around the idea, and there is a fair bit of interest for a "missing wiki women" type list building do: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LtBujK6kARbwxUzDyF6hpv445rJwk7Ka7rAlf7e9USg/edit -- I would be happy to talk with folks about it.
Sep 5 2019
Yeah, you should be able to use one of the JPG preview files which can be served from each ".tif" file -- that is what the thumbnails on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia Projects are. @Keegan do you know who would know/where to look?