"If these moss walls could talk!”
"It's almost more important to listen to plants than it is to talk to them."
"Nature makes people happy. It just does in all of its wonderful forms."

Today's guest, Kasey Riley, co-founder of the Fat Plant Society, loves to communicate with nature, kind of like my grandfather used to. My dad says it's discovering an untold story of the way that the world should be.
In honor of world environment day I’m bringing you a very special guest!
Kasey shares her journey from a childhood fascination with wildflowers to co-founding a business that specializes in low-maintenance moss installations. She credits her husband, Morten Klinte, for igniting her passion and transforming their home into a lush, green oasis. From the intricacies of growing Namibian bottle trees to the innovative use of dormant moss, Kasey's story is a fascinating dive into the world of sustainable greenery.
We explore the various applications of moss, from residential installations to full walls in corporate settings. Kasey also discusses the emotional and psychological benefits of having greenery in our environments, supported by studies on attention restoration and well-being.
The conversation takes a heartfelt turn as Kasey reflects on the lessons learned from her parents and the importance of "partner pal behavior" in maintaining respectful and loving relationships. We also touch on the potential of green burials and the unique qualities of moss that make it a sustainable choice for various applications.
Join us for an episode filled with personal anecdotes, practical advice, and a celebration of the natural world. Whether you're a plant enthusiast, a sustainability advocate, or someone interested in relationship wisdom, this episode has something for everyone.
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Connect with Kasey Riley and the Fat Plant Society:        
- Website: thefatplantsociety.com
- Instagram: @thefatplantsociety
- Facebook: The Fat Plant Society
- LinkedIn: The Fat Plant Society
Connect with Reena:      
- Website: bettercalldaddy.com
- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/reenafriedmanwatts
- Twitter: @reenareena
- Instagram: @reenafriedmanwatts
- Instagram Podcast: @bettercalldaddypodcast
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(00:00) Reena Friedman Watts hosts the better call daddy show with Wayne Friedman
(01:38) Kasey Riley is co founder of the Fat Plant Society
(05:09) There's no moss in Kansas City, Missouri, unfortunately
(09:12) We have used moss to create everything from the smallest of residential installations
(14:14) Amy Edwards talked about the importance of listening when facing death
(21:29) There were debates during the pandemic about hybrid workplace situations
(24:09) Morten and I run the moss company together, and it's pretty awesome
(26:30) Early on in the business, we discovered the concept of green burial
(29:54) Many schools in Denmark are incorporating outdoor classrooms as part of their curriculum
(33:36) I would like to see moss more deeply embedded in hospitality settings
(37:53) Greenery in senior living facilities is beneficial for hearing, environmental issues
(40:15) What lessons have you learned from your parents about relationships that show up in marriage
(45:51) There are times when you just have to get away from it all
(46:29) I thought marriage was a silly concept
(49:21) Is there anything you want to ask your dad about being a partner, pal
(53:35) I can't tell you how much I have learned since our initial introduction
(55:09) Kasey says you need loyalty and respect in a good relationship
(57:12) Reena Joy Watts: Relationship is about creating a legacy
Remember, it's not just about the plants you grow, but the relationships you nurture and the wisdom you gain along the way. Tune in and get ready to explore