What is the point here? Something about language, and how it is an unbridgeable distance, and how it shapes each of us to our cores. But that in itselWhat is the point here? Something about language, and how it is an unbridgeable distance, and how it shapes each of us to our cores. But that in itself doesn't make for a very interesting read. I didn't believe any of these characters existed or could exist in real life. And I had no idea why she was so obsessed about this Ivan character, he seemed to have no detectable personality. She thinks about him nonstop and I just didn't understand why, maybe I missed some pages or something, but why this douchebag? A few funny or interesting passages saved it from getting one star, but I need someone to explain to me why this is so great....more
Most explicitly political one so far. For the first 2/3 of this one, I felt a bit lost. Thematically it was all tying in together very well, but storyMost explicitly political one so far. For the first 2/3 of this one, I felt a bit lost. Thematically it was all tying in together very well, but story-wise I had no idea where this was going. Then in the last third, it all comes together and surprise, there actually is a story that makes sense. Can symbols tell a story? It seems Ali Smith teeters on this border (borders are her topic too!) between realism (which I know is an illusion anyway) and trying to say something larger metaphorically. It seems a little over the top at times (with everyone's very meaningful names, for example). But I can't fault her for her grand ambitions, and it is quite impressive that she can still make it work on the story level. Overall, I enjoyed it but it wasn't as moving as 'Winter' and felt a bit contrived at times. Onward to 'Summer'!
(view spoiler)[ * More names: * Richard Lease/Doubledick = Dick (he's kind of a dick or a douche in the beginning, honestly) - connection to a Dickens character (the other 2 books started with references to Dickens too) - gets a new "lease" on life after attempted suicide - RD in Dickens's story lets go of bitterness, let bygones be bygones, things change / story or excuse about losing his pen (penis) / also he's double-Dick because he has escaped death, he gets to live another life of Dick - also, he's Elisabeth's father, her presence here as only the imaginary daughter * Patricia Heal nee Hardiman / Paddy = healing powers? heals others even though she's dying. * Brittany Hall / Brit = Britain * Florence / Flo = Go with the Flow... Florence and the machine... florence against the machine? Machine = Brit? Florence, Italy * Alda Lyons = All the lions? / Daniel Gluck & the lions / All the lying? Auld Alliance. * Kingussie - Kin you see? (ties in with the vision thing in Winter) * DCO = Detention Custody Officer * IRC = Immigration Removal Center * SA4A = G4S? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S
Stories/Narrative/Songs:
Songs throughout this one, songs are also narrative. That seasons song on repeat next door. Final countdown on the radio.. Flo & Brit naming their favorite songs, Self by noname, etc. Beethoven / Panharmonicon. Alda singing that song in another language. Can't remember them all...there's so many.
When Alda is asked how far to wherever they're going, she wants to answer in terms of time, how many minutes, etc. but then she answers in terms of story, how many songs and stories she can tell or fit in, in terms of how long it takes to tell a story. Time and narrative are one.
There's the spring sacrifice ritual where the girl refuses to be part of the story/someone else's narrative. Later revealed to be a story Florence wrote in her notebook of Hot Air. Which means they are part of HER story instead of the other way around. Who is part of whose story? Whose frame of reference? etc.
Hopeless Hope:
Beethoven song "An Die Hoffnung" -> Andy Hoffnung (probably Daniel Gluck) -> translates to "dedicated to hope" / Paddy first meets (probably) Daniel Gluck when they sit next to each other and DG reads the name of the song / “ I realized, talking with him, that true hope’s actually a matter of the absence of hope.” / later she talks about hopeless hope... “In the French revolutionary calendar, along with the last days of March, it becomes Germinal, the month of return to the source, to the seed, to the germ of things, which is maybe why Zola gave the novel he wrote about hopeless hope this revolutionary title.” Vivunt spe.
The underworld / Eurydice:
War postcard in 'Andy Hoffnung' movie: "I wish I were with Eury" / I wish I were dead -- Richard lays down on tracks is like going to the underworld and being rescued back. Also Paddy leaving Richard a book with a letter in it, almost like writing to him from the Underworld, and the contents of the letter is all about other artists (Rilke/K Mansfield) returning from the dead in different ways. Transformation/change.
Visibility / invisibility:
people don't see Florence... later conversation with Alda: “There are different ways to be a nobody. There are different kinds of invisibility. Some are more equal than others. I’m speaking, as you British say, from the mouth of the horse. / It’s a vicious circle, though, Richard says when he interviews the original coffee truck Alda. You’re disappearing people from a system which has already disappeared them.”
The fact that nobody is what they're supposed to be. The coffee truck that doesn't sell coffee. The library that is closed. Brit who is working for SA4A is actually helping an immigrant (unbeknownst to her)... Tied to the pretending thing in 'Winter'.
Brit greets the hedges when she goes into work every day, and when she goes home. Hedges were a theme in 'Winter' too. Hedges are a kind of border. Art and Charlotte argue about it because Art saw it as just nature, whereas Charlotte knew they were political.
Nature Motifs:
'Autumn' was leaves, 'Winter' was rocks, 'Spring' I think the motif is mountains and clouds/clods.
Also postcards are a motif here.
Surveillance:
The bit about technology wanting to track us, knowing all our habits, seemed a bit like a generic hippy off-the-grid rant at first, but then it comes around when Auld Alliance members are interviewed, in this context it becomes more like life and death rather than just people not wanting corporations to track them: “People can’t live under the radar any more, he says. / And yet so many do, she says. / People can’t have unrecorded lives any more, he says. / We’re working to make the act of recording lives different, she says.”
Artists:
Oh I almost forgot to even mention the artists in this one. Katherine Mansfield, RM Rilke, and Tacita Dean, seemed like they were sharing the weight in this one, whereas in previous volumes (Pauline Boty and Barbara Hepworth seemed to be more central to each of their respective books). I loved the story of Tacita Dean trying to capture the clouds, though. (hide spoiler)]
I liked this one a lot more than Autumn. It's a Christmas story, but told in a collage-style of present and past memories, of a family coming togetherI liked this one a lot more than Autumn. It's a Christmas story, but told in a collage-style of present and past memories, of a family coming together for Christmas despite ... things: falling outs and break ups etc. Even though it's collage-like (similar to Autumn) I felt like there was more of a thrust in this one, and I felt the themes coalesced better. Both books were super topical and contemporaneous, but this one fared better in that department as well, at least for me. It didn't rely as much on just the sentiment of Brexit lending the book pathos, but actually examined the innards of those sentiments along with other sentiments. There was more of an argument here, more points of views represented and actual disagreements (I don't remember there being any major difference of opinions among the main characters in Autumn). Though it could've been my fault... maybe I wasn't a very good reader of Autumn, at the time, which was just a few days ago, haha. Also, here there wasn't your typical Ali Smith precocious child, although there were still glimpses of them sometimes in flashbacks, but not nearly as much. I know it's a personal thing, but I get tired of those clever children so quickly...
(view spoiler)[More for my benefit (looking back after having finished the quartet) than for anyone else, but here are some of the themes that resonated with me:
* floaters -> and heads / coastlines / rocks * i.e. seeing things/visions i.e. being an artist * i.e. vision... it's also about what you CHOOSE to see and what you CHOOSE to not see * vision/artistic vision -> barbara hepworth * i.e. rocks i.e. time and timelessness i.e. art in nature * also holes (the metaphorical hole in Art's life, real holes in sculptures, etc) * "____ is dead" i.e. winter / the season of death, typically * us vs. them, how much to care about the world beyond your circle, where do you draw that line? * mythologizing, and storytelling in general, how we make stories/narratives out of time? Sophia calls Iris a mythologizer like it's a bad word... but aren't we all? * Shakespeare / Cymbeline * time and truth are kindred / family * the cyclic nature of time / seasons / kepler / comets * i.e. what we're seeing now is just the past coming back in new clothes, both on a personal level and on a historic one * charlie chaplin / the tramp / meanwhile iris is opening up the house to the homeless (tramps) * the idea of pretending. Art puts on a persona when he writes his blog and tells stories that never happened. Lux is paid to pretend to be Charlotte. The real Charlotte was also pretending to be Art on twitter when she stole his login and started tweeting as him * the idea of asking and communicating: Art is reluctant about it, assuming there can't be communication, but Lux is optimistic. Like when Lux asks for Sophia's computer pw and she just gives it to her, whereas Art never thought to ask because he assumed she "would never!". Later Lux encourages Art to talk to Sophia about his dad, with Art having the same reaction like, that would not work, etc. but in actuality he never asked. * i found the scenes between the sisters very touching and complex... they love/hate each other, and it's all so entwined, like the time Iris took Sophia to see an Elvis movie, which is out of character for Iris, and the time in the "present" where they hate each other but also need each other, Sophia rests her head on Iris, etc. * Hedges is what Art & Charlotte argue about. Hedges are borders, though Art only sees it as nature, which angers Charlotte. Also (me in the future editing this review:) hedges returns in 'Spring', when Brittany greets them everyday on her way into and out of work. The idea that everything is political (or who chooses to see things as political and who chooses not to) * Ali Smith loves to use symbolic names (in this way, she is Dickens-like?)... * Art = art * Sophia/Philo = wisdom/sophistry/philosophy/philo dough * Iris = eye/vision * family name: Cleves (their last name) = tear apart or come together * Lux = light * Daniel Gluck = daniel from the bible story w/ lions / gluck = luck (german) * Elisabeth (like the Queen) Demand (of the world / or demand of the world?) (hide spoiler)]...more
I dunno. This was hyped so much. And I've already read so many Ali Smith novels, that when I got to this one, I didn't see the big deal. I liked some I dunno. This was hyped so much. And I've already read so many Ali Smith novels, that when I got to this one, I didn't see the big deal. I liked some of her other ones better. Here, she does a lot of very typical Ali Smith things... friendships between young and old, precocious witty wordplay, themes that circle around again, playing with the structure of storytelling, etc. Here she throws in some history and some national disillusionment re: Brexit.
But yeah, it's good. There were parts that were very good. Just maybe I was expecting too much. Some of it seemed a bit random. I'm still gonna read more of this Seasons Quartet, or at least Winter, to see if there's some kinda overarching architecture that she has in mind... maybe I can appreciate it more as part of a whole....more
She's clearly a good writer, and the beginning chapters were evocative, moody, mysterious, intriguing. But as it went along, it became more in your faShe's clearly a good writer, and the beginning chapters were evocative, moody, mysterious, intriguing. But as it went along, it became more in your face. I don't think Jenny Hval meant this to be a laugh out loud funny book, but there were parts where I definitely laughed. Also, if you're gonna name your book Paradise Rot, and include apples in it, we know you're what you're getting at already. It's pretty obvious. You don't need to spell it out by naming the garden of eden or anything. Overall everything was a little too spelled out and heavy handed for me....more
I read this book as an essay filtered through an intimate fictional point of view. It's not really much of a novel, but it does give pleasures and insI read this book as an essay filtered through an intimate fictional point of view. It's not really much of a novel, but it does give pleasures and insight that you would not normally find in a novel. And it lends emotions to the ideas it brings up that you would not find in an essay. It makes you think about issues from more and more perspectives. That said, the first and second parts are very different stylistically and only connected thematically and loosely via the same characters being in them. If you're looking for a unifying story that delivers a satisfying arc, etc. look elsewhere.
Also, thanks to Spenky for linking to this interview, which I absolutely loved. She manages to be very encouraging and understanding at times, while still confronting Murakami on his sexism when it rears its ugly head, as when she says "On the one hand, your work is boundlessly imaginative when it comes to plots, to wells, and to men, but the same can’t be said for their relationships with women."
15% memoir, 45% biography of George Eliot, 40% discussion of Middlemarch's plot and themes. A pleasant book for me to stay in the world of Middlemarch15% memoir, 45% biography of George Eliot, 40% discussion of Middlemarch's plot and themes. A pleasant book for me to stay in the world of Middlemarch after spending most of the summer reading it. I definitely appreciate it more now than when I was in the middle of it, and I even thought about re-reading it. But let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet....more
Sometimes Hartman is so poetic about something so simple, that I find myself wary, wondering if she's conflating what's actually there. For example, iSometimes Hartman is so poetic about something so simple, that I find myself wary, wondering if she's conflating what's actually there. For example, in the chapter titled "An Intimate History of Slavery and Freedom," I think: Mattie is simply a young black woman who is being courted, and she gives in to her desires, has sex with Herman Hawkins, an older black man. Is it really as Hartman says: a revolution? A sexual revolution that predated the age of the Gatsbys? Hasn't there always been this rebellion, this desire and want and self discovery even during slavery? Is it a sign of a bigger societal movement?
Later, I'm convinced; she's convinced me. The limits placed on black women at the time meant any small act of self-assertion needs to be celebrated as potentially radical. And it's beautiful the way Hartman writes about it. She doesn't write like a historian even though she is writing history. She writes like a poet or a novelist.
It's powerful how even in the budding discovery of her wants and desires, Mattie, who is not allowed to have agency in any other part of her life, who is conscripted to the servant and whore roles, is finding out who she is through her sexuality.
But I love how Hartman reminds us that it's never really as simple as that. Even in this personal realm of desire, it's not a complete liberation and empowerment. The man has nudged her into her desires. Not that she didn't have desires, but he talks dirty to her despite her telling him not to. We're perpetually wading into those shades of gray, where consent is not clear. Even here with a black man in the privacy of love, she is being dominated, she is not the one with power. Perhaps the man "trained her to want what she didn't," Hartman wonders. But within that less than ideal dynamic, or despite it, there is for her still a discovery, rebellion, liberation. Complicated, but true.
I loved the way Hartman teases out these shades and subtleties of right and wrong. Of right within wrong. Of joy within poverty and servility. Of love within the hallways and doorways. Moments of life glimpsed outside of tragedy. Hartman is careful not to write a narrative that pornographies black suffering. She wants to acknowledge suffering but also acknowledge the joy, the life and human spirit that rises up despite it. That black lives were here despite being dismissed as a footnote, as minor nameless figures in photographs.
It becomes more complicated: Mattie gives birth to a stillborn girl. She was a minor when they had sex, and now a social worker wants her to charge Hawkins with statutory rape. Consent "was the way to shift the burden of criminality from her shoulders to his." It made me think. On the one hand I agree that this WAS statutory rape. On the other hand, it wrenches the power from Mattie. Before, she had agency, she desired something, even if it lived in the gray regions... now in the light of the law, she never even had the right to consent to desire it. Her power had been taken from her in both situations.
I focused this review on only one small chapter of this book, but it's representative of the types of quiet revolutions and acts of bold living from otherwise unheard of black women throughout this book. Impressively, Hartman teases these stories out of dry police reports and biased accounts of crime written by white people long long ago, and re-infuses them with life and the living....more
I love reading reviews on Goodreads because they're not professional reviews. That means they're entangled with memories, hopes, expectations, flaws. I love reading reviews on Goodreads because they're not professional reviews. That means they're entangled with memories, hopes, expectations, flaws. The personal lives of the reviewer often adds to my understanding of a book, of how a book could appeal to certain people. Often I will love a review of a book I have absolutely no intention of reading because I'm more intrigued by the review than the book.
This book approaches music journalism in much the same way as my favorite reviews. Hanif Abdurraqib is one of my favorite writers thanks to his They Can't Kill Us Until They Kill Us, which I read last year. Then I learned that this book existed, an entire book on one musical group, A Tribe Called Quest, and I realized it's one of those books that I absolutely would not have read if I didn't already love the author, since I didn't know or care much about ATCQ (I do now). But because it was Abdurraqib, and because I knew he is never afraid to invite us into his world, I knew this would be about so much more than one musical group, and I was right. His personal connection with ATCQ and his passion for them is what drew me in and what makes this book special.
Abdurraqib is such a good writer that he makes me wish all music journalism was as impassioned, as brave and unafraid to branch out from the strictly musical to the broader world of where that music came from, the streets and culture where the music takes on new meaning. Throughout this book, I was taken not only through the journey of one hip hop group's rise and fall, but also the neighborhoods where Abdurraqib grew up, the language of Jet magazines, Kool-Aid, and Knicks games. This book is like a mix-tape. Each song is infused with more meaning because of who made it and the thought behind it. This is such a personal book that also admirably broadens to a time and place.
I did feel that Abdurraqib falls a little bit into sentimentality and repetition at points that he doesn't fall into in his other book, but these are minor gripes. I loved this book and want to read everything he wrote, and you should too....more
If a writer could use words the way an impressionist artist uses paints, then this would be as close to that as I can imagine. Many of the sentences dIf a writer could use words the way an impressionist artist uses paints, then this would be as close to that as I can imagine. Many of the sentences don't even have verbs, but evoke a scene and a mood that slowly builds up like layers of thick paint does on a canvas. I'm still not sure what I read, but it was moody and it was unique....more
MEN AND WINDS HAVE THIS IN COMMON: NEITHER HAVE THEIR FEET ON THE GROUND. NOMADS, THEY COME AND GO LIKE THE PAIN OF SHATTERED LOVE, NERVOUS TENSION, I
MEN AND WINDS HAVE THIS IN COMMON: NEITHER HAVE THEIR FEET ON THE GROUND. NOMADS, THEY COME AND GO LIKE THE PAIN OF SHATTERED LOVE, NERVOUS TENSION, INDEPENDENCIES, WARS OF LIBERATION, THE URGENT NEED TO DEFECATE IN THE STAIRWELL OF A BUILDING BETWEEN TWO BLACKOUTS.
the viscerality of the text
the urgency of the text
the propulsive rhythm of the train tracks
the atmosphere of the City-State spilling off the page
All nights have this particularity: they are long and popular. They teem with the rabble. They stifle awareness and accrue neurosis. They bind a straw mattress and a clock into an unrecognizable muddle. They come from the heart, improvise, and facilitate multiple partnership agreements between foreign bodies.
the prose is loud and soft simultaneously, somehow
a petri dish where nothing much happens plot-wise but you look closer and notice all these organisms screaming and fucking
the way the voices interweave into the text not to be snuffed out
"Do you have the time?"
voices disembodied from speakers, interrupting all thought
with no help from Fiston as to who's saying what but it's still clear if you relax, let it wash over you
even a description is broken up by voices asking if you have the time and other such things, do you?
RULE NUMBER 64: let them play the hardmen, for they paper over society’s dregs. RULE NUMBER 67: the mightier crush the mighty, the mighty defecate in the mouths of the weak, the weak sequestrate the weaker, the weaker do each other in, then split for elsewhere.
the underlying tragedy of a place plundered
but not without enjoyment of the ephemeral present if you call this enjoyment
RULE NUMBER 46: fuck by day, fuck by night, fuck and fuck some more for you know not what tomorrow brings.
i disagree with those that say the book is sexist... it shows a sexist society, but that is different from it being sexist. in fact, it shows the reality of the situation for many of these women in a very tragic light, and i do feel there is an empathy here, a subtle but definite editorial angle, the same way he shows the inequalities in other sections of his City-State
The City-State works like this: the girls are emancipated, democratic, and independent. Poverty does away with shame and your courtesies.
if you call this enjoyment... except enjoyment here is debased, twisted, not really enjoyment, more like a form of escapism, denial thru base desires, the pleasures of the underbelly
The main character in the African novel is always single, neurotic, perverse, depressive, childless, homeless, and overburdened with debt. Here, we live, we fuck, we’re happy. There needs to be fucking in African literature too!
BTW i'm not reviewing this as african lit, just lit AF
afterall isn't life shit everywhere? the nihilism at play here feels very of the moment
one where we plunder our own earth for resources, tear down our own house for big money, sell our own bodies and our own minds...for what?
actually, i think you either live in a world where this is a daily reality, or in a world of comforts that allows you to ignore this reality (but is still fueled by this reality)
and the lowest of the low survive to make a quick buck because they don't have any other option
ignoring all the rules, all sense of perspectives
He felt guilty at fiddling with history. Is there a limit to the imagination of a writer who takes real facts and uses them to construct a world where truth and fiction coexist? What right does one have to play around with collective memory? Is there any credibility in getting these sometimes-disparate characters in tune?
sometimes 'you' is lucien. sometimes 'us' is the collective of City-State. sometimes there is just a 'they'
the high highs are exhilirating, but sometimes the lows are necessary to tie them together, to string along an explanation or a backstory. sometimes the book falls back to this human-level prose, which is understandable, yet still slightly disappointing
the rules of the game are clearly defined, and that the main thing is to live off anything that falls into your hands. The tragedy is already written, we merely preface it.
ps if you're still unconvinced, please watch Fiston read one of his poems to white men https://youtu.be/beATnkDlX68?t=208 (starting at 3:28) it is hilarious and poignant and also you'll understand everything you need to about where his writing comes from even if you (like me) don't understand a single word of french...more
This one gets an extra star for originality and being like no other book I've read before. It's experimental in the most silly and delightful and incoThis one gets an extra star for originality and being like no other book I've read before. It's experimental in the most silly and delightful and inconsequential way. Here is how the author describes it himself, (this is an excerpt from within the book)
I told them it was a novel written by someone who didn’t know much about Texas because he didn’t know about Texas, a novel that didn’t really have much to say, a halfhearted attempt to come up with of a series of groundless hypotheses, a mixture of the stream of consciousness technique, the paralysis of consciousness technique, and the derangement of consciousness technique, a novel that even a passing dog would laugh at, and after I said these things they rang true and my friends seemed perplexed, and I said the novel was going to be a disastrous failure to be mocked by everyone to which we toasted. But there was an advantage to writing with failure in mind, which was to say that failing to write a failure wouldn’t really be a failure, so the fear of failure wouldn’t weigh you down as heavily as you wrote.
and later:
The only thing that concerned me was finding out how long and until when I could go on saying things like this that were pure nonsense and that kept going off on a tangent and that had nothing to say and that, furthermore, made no difference whether they said anything or not and in the end were irrelevant, and you could say that I’m writing this in order to find that out (and also to find out how many repetitions of words and phrases I could use, which naturally bring pleasure to people who understand the pleasure they bring and don’t to people who don’t understand them). There were too many fictions that made an attempt to say something and too few that intentionally said something that may be irrelevant, and as for me I thought that there was a need to think that there was a need to think that there was a need to say things that may be irrelevant, and to think that there was a need to think that there was no need to say other things, and what I wanted to say was things that kept going off on a tangent forever if only that were possible.
This is one of the most powerful and enlightening books about race I've ever read. It's also one of the most powerful and enlightening books about musThis is one of the most powerful and enlightening books about race I've ever read. It's also one of the most powerful and enlightening books about music I've ever read. To be able to do those two things at once, and to have one enlighten the other and vice versa, while also inviting the reader in with such a warm voice, like an old friend sharing stories on the porch, without judgement or snobbishness, with an aim at understanding and love is an absolute miracle. That he was able to reach such heights with almost every essay here is astounding.
I think something I've noticed about the way he explains racial misunderstandings is that a lot of times it comes from a lack of context.
It's like a person who has never been hungry looking at someone who is starving and asking "why are you acting this way? Why aren't you using the proper utensils and being proper?" and just not understanding that how they (someone who has been fed) would act is different and not at all relevant to the starving person's predicament.
A lot of this is about survival, and when it's not about survival, it's about joy. About enjoying the moment BECAUSE you never know how long you're gonna get to.
Also: even though some of this music might not be your jam, don't let that deter you. The music writing here served as an eye opening way for me to enter worlds I was not aware of before. Even when I didn't enjoy the same music he's talking about, the essays here made me appreciate where each artist was coming from and how to listen, how differently one can listen (in all senses of that verb: to listen).
Lastly: unlike most books on race, this one actually gives me a strange hopefulness, while still being gut-wrenchingly realistic about the horrible state of the world....more
The thing about matryoshkas, Mujae announced while he grated the radish, is that they’re hollow to begin with. There’s nothing inside of any substance
The thing about matryoshkas, Mujae announced while he grated the radish, is that they’re hollow to begin with. There’s nothing inside of any substance. There’s just one matryoshka inside another, that repetition is itself what defines a matryoshka, not any actual object part, so in fact it’s more precise to say that a matryoshka contains an eternal recurrence than a number of smaller matryoshkas. So it’s not as though anything has ceased to exist because it broke; all we’ve done is confirmed that it never existed in the first place. That sounds so futile, Mujae. Futility is precisely why I’ve always thought that a matryoshka resembles human life.
I love Hwang Jungeon's voice. It's subtle and quiet, and at first it doesn't seem like there's much to her stories at all. Nothing much happens, and it's very episodic. But in her own quiet way, she builds these strong characters and relationships and shows you these small beautiful moments into their world. Her point of view is often from the downtrodden, the ignored, the lower classes.
This one had surreal touches to it, but it was very controlled. I liked how she negotiated the realism with that fantastical element at the same time, without one taking over. It's still very rooted in reality. There's also a mysterious quality to the shadows that is never explained, and I liked that. It wasn't entirely a negative thing, as many of the characters continued to live even when their shadows rose up. But there's an ominous quality to it, a feeling like these characters are living in a liminal space, almost ghosts already.
I think a good film director to make the movie version of this book would be Apichatpong Weerasethakul.
This definitely wasn't as strong as her other book "I'll Go On" but I still loved it. I'd happily read any book she writes from now on....more
“Don’t erase things from the world just because you are incapable of imagining them.”
An incredible book! If books were like movies and you could pair
“Don’t erase things from the world just because you are incapable of imagining them.”
An incredible book! If books were like movies and you could pair them up as "double features", I think this would be a PERFECT pairing with Breasts and Eggs. They tackle a lot of the same themes and even have very similar plot points. A woman and her sister. A woman wanting a child, but not necessarily wanting the father around. The consequences of bringing a life into a fucked up world. A woman and her sister's unique relationship. Growing up poor, "broken" homes, abusive parents, dreams... I could go on (no pun intended)... but I won't.
Because the two books are also very different in terms of tone. In terms of the way they are written. Breasts and Eggs felt almost cold at times in its treatment of themes. Characters had conversations that seemed to float in a theoretical ether. Whereas in this book, everything seemed much more grounded and organic. Thought provoking, but in a way that was a natural extension of the story and the very real characters.
I loved her writing style. It's understated, not flashy, subtle, and a bit slow, but slow in a way that builds into something very moving. She gets inside the bones of her characters.
A misuteri, she says, mystery, a sort of black hole. And in that family, the black hole happens to be the chamber pot. They may even be aware that the chamber pot is their version of the unknowable. Or maybe they’ve never even thought about it along these lines – but even so, the point is that some things are impossible to comprehend.
There are many mysteries in the world, but in this book, the biggest mystery (or 'misuteri') is what's going on inside the heads of other people. Especially people closest to you, people you consider family... what's locked inside of families, their unique dynamic, to those outside of those families; as well as what's locked from each other WITHIN family members. What goes unsaid, what we assume that the other is thinking or feeling, without asking them, building into resentments, as when the two sisters don't talk.
"That's what family means to him: no longer counting as other people."
The way it's written perfectly expresses this idea of the other. Told from 3 different perspectives, 3 distinct voices, you get to know each one and their thoughts intimately. Yet as you're in each one's head, you DON'T get to see what the others are thinking. This is an illusion of course. What's the border between self and the other? Could they, like drops of water, merge together? Is it precisely because they are family, that they are sometimes the furthest apart?
On the topic of families, Hwang has much to say. The idea of being a single parent worries Nana. But throughout the course of the novel we see children of single parents (our protagonists) as well as children with no parents (Naghi's mother being raised by her grandfather and aunt) and children with both parents (Moseh as well as Naghi's love interest) and we see how they all end up being fucked up in different ways. Childhood traumas carry on into adulthood, inevitably. We see how every family is different and uniquely fucked up.
There are many other themes, but emily and spenky's reviews cover them so well already. Go read them. I will just say that this is probably my favorite book I've read this year....more