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Posted: Jun 25, 2003 01:52 am

MagicPresident 0

I'm looking for some details on an old

effect in which the magician cuts an ad
any place the spectator requests and the
last line of the ad remaining was found
in the envelope that was on display before
Regular user the trick began.
133 Posts Anybody have a source?
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Posted: Jun 25, 2003 02:23 am
Ted Lesley 0

Dear Mr. President:

You`ll nd a description of that trick in Harry Lorraines "Magic Book" on pages 224 to 227
under the Title "Line o`Type".

An advanced method you will nd in Al Mann`s manuscript titled "Six Columns" and in another
V.I.P. Al Mann manuscript with the title: "Super Clip Line Plus"!
Berlin / Germany
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Any questions? Feel free to ask!

TED LESLEY
Ted Lesley

( The "Victor Borge" of Mentalism )

Posted: Jun 25, 2003 05:03 am
GothicBen 0

This is one of thise effects that looks so simple in print that you're dare not try it. However, this
is a wonderful trick, and I have used it, along with the Hoy Book Test, ever since I read them.

Plus, it's near enough impromptu! Harry Lorayne says he's prepared for it during the show, if
he's got a paper to hand!
Veteran user
England
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Ben

Posted: Jun 26, 2003 12:32 am

g0thike 0

Here is my 3 post and 47 to go.

I recommend Dan Harlans version from his Mentalism DVD. He shows you how to construct a
fool proof method that works. When you see the gimmicked clip line it'll make you drool. You
have to build it yourself but it works.
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Al Manns methods are great but his AME are hard to come buy. I love Al Mann and some of his
 effects are genius some are just ideas.

The cheapest book I can think of that will explain the effect is Karl Fulves (sp) mentalism book.
Sells for about 7 bucks. I am looking for the book but I cant nd it. Someone might know the
name. I know it' about atomatic or semi-auto mentalism.

Richard Osterlind sells his version I think. Never seen it or have I used it.

g0thike
Posted: Jun 26, 2003 10:06 am
ddyment 0

The original verison of what is commonly called "Clip Line" was by Al Spackman (in Gen, 1964),
and exists in the literature in many versions, such as that (#33 "The Want Ad Test") in Karl
Fulves' inexpensive Self-Working Mental Magic. As such, it has been widely exposed, and
although the original version is still a good one, you run the risk of more astute audience
members being aware of it.
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Gibsons, BC, Canada Subsequently, there have been considerably more sophisticated versions. It is, for example,
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extensively discussed in Al Mann's Super Clip Line Plus. Richard Osterlind's Dynamic Mysteries
has a whole chapter on his version. Roy Miller has an excellent gaffed version on the market
(this is the one used by Chuck Hickok in his Mentalism, Incorporated), and Gary Lee Williams has
published (in Stephen Minch's Spectacle) one that will fool all the magicians who think they
know it.

... Doug
Doug Dyment's Deceptionary :: Elegant, Literate, Contemporary Mentalism ... and More
Posted: Jun 26, 2003 12:14 pm
leondo 0

MagicPres,
You would do yourself a major favor by looking up Richard Osterlinds effect along this line in
his book "Dynamic Mysteries" (I think???)
We've used it many times and it has some kickers in it that fool even the wise one's.
Ted (Leondo)
Special user
Las Vegas
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Posted: Jun 28, 2003 01:07 pm

mindgames 0

mentalism incorporated have a section deals with it.

I READ MINDS.... YOURS TOO.

Veteran user
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Posted: Jun 29, 2003 12:20 am

Robert Sixx 0

Doug, where can you get the Roy Miller version?

And Ted, I did not realize that Richard had this effect on the market, can you tell me what it is
called and where I can nd it?

Special user Thanks to all!

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Posted: Jun 29, 2003 05:04 am

Ted Lesley 0

Hi Robert
 Osterlinds version is called "ALPHA MENTAL"
and it is available from my "Wonderworkshop"

http://www.wonderworkshop.de

V.I.P.
( I HATE these plugs )
Berlin / Germany
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Ted Lesley

( The "Victor Borge" of Mentalism )

Posted: Jun 29, 2003 10:18 am
ddyment 0

Robert Sixx asked:

Quote:

Doug, where can you get the Roy Miller version?

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Gibsons, BC, Canada
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Roy's Miller Clipper is, I believe, available only from him directly. You can reach him at
[email]rmiller7@erols.com[/email].

Highly recommended.

... Doug
Doug Dyment's Deceptionary :: Elegant, Literate, Contemporary Mentalism ... and More
Posted: Aug 22, 2007 05:40 pm
Turk 0

Does anyone know if the methodology used by Jay Sankey in his excellent "Cut Here" effect is
original with him? The reason I'm asking is because I am in the process of developing an
expanded effect that uses that precise method and I'd like to both give credit to and seek
permission of the originator of that methodology. I, of course, plan on writing to Jay in this
regard. But, if the methodology goes further back, I'd like to be thorough in my research, my
Inner circle crediting and my seeking of permission(s).
Portland, OR
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Thanks for any information in that regard.

Mike

P.S. No inference of plagarism or lack of originality on the part of Jay Sankey was intended (and
hopefully not implied) by the above questions and comments. I'm just anal retentive when it
comes to crediting and seeking permissions. And I know that lots of times a person can
unknowingly "invent" something that, unbeknownst to him, had been previously created by
another.

I know that Al Spackman's "Clip Line" has seen many many variations and I'm just trying to get
to the earliest source of the methodology used by Jay. Knowing Jay's creative and wackey
mind, it is highly probable that the "Cut Here" methodolgy rst saw the light of day courtesy of
Jay. But, I'm just trying to cover my "academic research" bases.
Magic is a vanishing Art.

This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto.

Eschew obfuscation.
 Posted: Aug 22, 2007 11:58 pm
TheGreatGalling 0

The exact effect the thread's author originally mentioned can be found in Karl Fulves' Self
Working Mental Magic. It is trick 33 entitled The Want Ad Test and appears on page 53.

I should mention both the wonderful Jeff Sheridan and Richard Osterlind have a version that
deals with the written text of a newspaper clipping with the same method and presentation on
Loyal user their dvds.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2007 10:51 am

ChuckHickok 0

With the permission of Roy Miller (and the help of Doug Dyment), I have modied Roy's method
so that you can change or customize the "force line" or "force word".

I call my effect SNIPPER. I supply the newsprint and a WORD document with a newspaper
article already printed in the way necessary to make the routine work every time with no moves.
Loyal user Everything looks so fair. All your effort can be on presentation.
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The headline can be changed ... and the force line can be changed. Just modify the article to t
your needs and run it thru your printer. This allows me to have the force line tie into the theme
of the evenet or the host name. I have used it in every corporate show for the past 10 years.

This is one of the fairest and strongest I know. It seems so impossible.

Check out: http://www.chuckhickok.com./tools.html

I accept Paypal.

Chuck Hickok
Posted: Aug 23, 2007 11:04 am
Sven Rygh 0

With all the respect for the various Clipline/Snipper/Clipper/etc etc

If you work for a thinking audience, you should seriously consider Osterlind's Clipline de luxe.

Even magicians and others "in the know" get stunned about this.
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Oslo, Norway.
1927 Posts I use it as my closer for smaller audiences, and it always get great reactions

Sven
WWW.SVENRYGH.NO

"Keep it as simple as possible, - but no simpler"

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http://www.svenrygh.no/video.html
Posted: Aug 23, 2007 04:47 pm
Turk 0

Quote:

On 2007-08-23 11:51, ChuckHickok wrote:

I call my effect SNIPPER. I supply the newsprint and a WORD
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Portland, OR document with a newspaper article already printed in the way
3538 Posts necessary to make the routine work every time with no moves.

Chuck Hickok
 Chuck,

SNIPPER sounds quite interesting.

How much newprint paper is supplied and how many newspaper articles (of reasonable length)
can you print with the supplied newsprint)? Also, is there a ready supply for additional newprint
paper either from you or from "regular" outside sources (i.e., like printers or your local
newspaper, etc.)?

Thanks for the info.

Mike
Magic is a vanishing Art.

This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto.

Eschew obfuscation.
Posted: Aug 23, 2007 04:58 pm
John C 0

Quote:

On 2007-08-23 17:47, Turk wrote:

Quote:

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I call my effect SNIPPER. I supply the
newsprint and a WORD document with a
newspaper article already printed in the way
necessary to make the routine work every time
with no moves.

Chuck Hickok

Chuck,

SNIPPER sounds quite interesting.

How much newprint paper is supplied and how many newspaper

articles (of reasonable length) can you print with the supplied
newsprint)? Also, is there a ready supply for additional newprint
paper either from you or from "regular" outside sources (i.e., like
printers or your local newspaper, etc.)?

Thanks for the info.

Mike

Mike, I've used Chuck's Clipper in about 10 different venues. Each time I customized the paper
for the event. I found the "paper" at a craft store and now I make my own. You can nd
newsprint artists use at any craft store in a big pad.

Clipper is a KILLER. Easy to perform and make.

 John Cesta
The ULTIMATE Routine Series: rebirth soon!
Posted: Aug 23, 2007 08:12 pm
Turk 0

Thanks for that information, John. It is very much appreciated.

Magic is a vanishing Art.

This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto.

Eschew obfuscation.
Inner circle
Portland, OR
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Posted: Aug 23, 2007 09:10 pm

Dynamike 0

I use the version Jay Sankey shows on his "22 Blows to the Head" DVD. I always go to the
newspaper stands that give out free paper.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2007 12:14 pm

Carlos the Great 0

The Clip Line Deluxe Set-up combined with the Clipper idea is very strong, IMHO.

-C
Cognite tute

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California
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