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Subject: Procedure for troubleshooting CanBus error Codes – DS 85 and Mentor


Date: 12-28-2007 Model/Series: All
No.: TD10008

The purpose for this bulletin is to aid you in the troubleshooting of CanBus
error codes on the DS 85 and Mentor LMI systems. These flowcharts cover
lmi error codes E-61, E-62, E-63, E-64, and E-65.
Necessary tools consist of:
ƒ Flat head screwdriver
ƒ Voltage multi-meter
ƒ Philips screwdriver

RADIO A2B

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CAN-BUS COMMUNICATION

E61 - The CU does not see any CAN-Bus component

Connect the two cables on the


E61 Transducer block together. E61

E62 Yes

Replace Transducer Block Disconnect these cables and reconnect


cable from console to transducer block.

E64 No E61 Yes

Connect the angle sensor can bus cable Ohm the cable from the console to
to the transducer block. Remove the the transducer block. If cable checks
can bus connector at angle sensor. good, then replace the console.

Replace the can bus cable


E61 Yes between the angle sensor
and transducer block.

No

E64

Ohm out connector at the


angle sensor. If the connector
Checks good, then replace
can bus converter board.
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E62 - The CU does not see any CAN-Bus component

Ohm the cable from the console Cable checks


E62 to the transducer block No
good?

Replace Cable.
Yes

Is power being Verify that power is being supplied


No supplied by to the sensor by testing the CAN
sensor? connectors per the pin layout.

Replace sensor.

Yes

Replace pressure transducer.

Connector M12, 5 contacts

Pin Layout (CiA DR-303-1 7.2) Pin 1 Shield


Pin 2 + Ub
Pin 3 Ground
Pin 4 CAN High
Pin 5 CAN Low

E63 - The pressure transducer is available, but is reporting an internal error

In case of an E63, the pressure transducer is


reporting an internal problem. You cannot
troubleshoot any further, but need to replace
the pressure transducer.
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E64 - Error in the can bus data transfer of the length/angle sensor unit

E64 Connect the two cables on the


E61
Transducer block together.

E62 Yes

Replace transducer block. Ohm the cable from the pressure


transducer block to the angle sensor.

Yes Cable
No
checks good

Check connector Replace


at angle sensor. the cable.

Connector
Yes checks good No

Replace can bus board Replace


in angle sensor. connector.
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E65 - The cable reel unit is available, but is reporting an internal error

Open Cable Reel. Locate CanBus


E65 board and sensor locations.

E65

Check and verify angle sensor Are signals and


voltages and signals as voltages correct?
described below.

Replace sensor or No Yes


board as described
in angle sensor flow
chart. Check and verify length sensor
voltages and signals as described
in length sensor error flow chart. If
sensor signal voltage is incorrect,
replace sensor.

If you suspect a sensor error or problem with a sensor, compare the indicated physical value
of the sensor on the display screen with the real value, i.e. length, angle, etc.

The voltages given are internal calculation values only; you will not be able to actually
measure them anywhere on the electronics! Typical values to be expected are:

• Pressure transducers (piston and rod), 500mV @ 0 PSI; 4500mV @ maximum PSI
• Length sensor, 500mV @ retracted boom length; voltage extended depends on the various
boom lengths.
• Angle sensor, 4500mV at 0°; 2500mV at 45°; or 500mV at 90°

X1 Pin CAN
CAN-Bus electronics in angle sensor box.
1 CAN_SHLD
2 CAN +UB
X20 (length) 3 CAN GND
4 CAN_H
5 CAN_L
X21 (angle)

LED
X14 (A2B)

X1 (CAN)

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