FR Ronnie Prabhu New Age Priest
FR Ronnie Prabhu New Age Priest
FR Ronnie Prabhu New Age Priest
MARCH 2002/SEPTEMBER
LETTER DATED 11.11.2001 FROM FR. RONNIE PRABHU S.J. TO THIS MINSTRY
Dear Michael, Greetings! And the peace of Jesus! When we met at Kotagiri during the retreat last Holy Week, you gave me copies of a number of articles written by you. I gave you a hint that I may not find the time to read them, but I did mean to. Yet what I feared did happen, and your papers remained long untouched. The only time I get to read peacefully is on my occasional long train journeys, and so when I was about to travel to Bombay recently I took your papers along and glanced through them- and I wished I had read them earlier, and that I had the time to really do justice to them! The articles are well written, Michael; there is a lot of scholarship that has gone into them. True, I do not agree with your conclusions but I do appreciate your clarity, and more, your deep concern that truth may prevail in the Church, and the earnestness with which you follow up your convictions. What you have given me deal with mainly two topics: alternative healing methods like Reiki and Pranic Healing, and eastern meditation methods such as Yoga. Glancing through your articles I find you have gone into the underlying philosophies of the first proponents of Reiki, Yoga, etc. You find that they subscribe to pantheistic, panentheistic or even monistic philosophies. You find that they have no place for a personal loving God. And quite naturally you find that this does not accord with our Catholic faith. Here I tend to agree with you, Michael, and with you I reject whatever is pantheistic or monistic, whatever does not accept a personal loving Trinitarian God. Yet, as I have said above, I disagree with your conclusion that Yoga, Pranic Healing etc. as practiced by Catholic priests and nuns is incompatible with the Catholic faith. What I find you have not done is that you have not studied the underlying philosophy and faith perspective of these priests and nuns and those at the holistic healing centers.
The founders of Reiki, Yoga etc. may have had philosophical presuppositions unacceptable to us; You seem to have taken for granted that all practitioners of Yoga, Reiki etc. have the same unacceptable philosophical presuppositions and faith perspective. You have taken a lot of trouble to visit holistic healing centers and yoga ashrams- and I appreciate this. If, however, you had made a careful study of their faith perspective and philosophical presuppositions instead of taking for granted that theirs was the same unacceptable presuppositions of the original proponents, your study would have been much more beneficial. I am not saying that all practitioners of Yoga etc. have the right faith perspective; possibly some are wrong, uncritically taking up every novelty that seems to attract. What I am saying is that it is possible to practice Yoga etc. without accepting the underlying philosophies of their original proponentsjust as John the Evangelist could accept the concept of Logos from Greek philosophy and use it to express his understanding of the pre-existent Christ. If you were to study the concept of Logos in its original context in Greek philosophy, you will find that it has nothing to do with Trinitarian understanding of God; but John takes the concept and uses it in his own faith perspective. I do not know who is the one who invented the computer; but let us imagine that this person was an atheist, and found in the marvel of the computer a confirmation of his atheism! Would it follow that I cannot use his invention (the computer) without subscribing to his philosophy and lack of faith? I myself have done some Buddhist forms of meditation (and have taught them too) and I have learned something of yoga. But honestly, Michael, I do not subscribe to the nihilism of Buddhism or the monism of Yoga; nor have I at any time seen that these philosophies were an essential presupposition of these forms of meditation. As a matter of fact even among Hindus who practice Yoga there are people of very differing philosophical presuppositions: some of them are monists, some are visishtadvaitins, some are dwaitins (dualists) etc. Thus even in Hinduism, Yoga does not call for any one particular philosophy to be subscribed to. Zen meditation too is practised by Buddhists who follow varying schools of philosophy. If thus Yoga does not call for any particular philosophy in its practitioners, I as a Catholic find that I too can practice Yoga with my underlying Christian philosophy and faith perspective! True, the practitioners of Yoga and alternate [sic] therapies must always keep to their faith perspective and should reject anything that is incompatible with the faith and philosophical perspective of its Catholic practitioners, and besides, this caution applies to every aspect of human endeavor and not to the practice of Yoga or alternative therapies alone. I think I shall end with this, Michael. Once again let me say how much I appreciate your passion for the faith and your readiness to go out of your way to protect it from what you see as false teachings- which John and Paul frequently warn us about. Let us pray for each other that even though our understandings be diverse our hearts may always remain loyal to Christ and His Church and we may both keep our minds open to see that we have much more to learn than what we know at present. With warm regards, Yours sincerely, Sd. Ronnie Prabhu S.J. Loyola Mandir, 96 Lavelle Road III Cross, Bangalore 560 001 Postscript: May I suggest that you read a small book Inculturation by Julian Saldanha S.J. published by St. Paul Publications. I have the 1987 edition; I think there are later editions. R
spirituality and that you are not enthusiastic about charismatic retreats. No one need be. But eastern spiritual practices conflict with the Spirit-filled ones. Also one does not require postures and techniques [or chanting mantras!] for prayer. When one has a personal relationship with our God, one would pray naturally. And one would not have to go outside our rich Catholic Christian heritage for questionable spiritual practices. Fr. Ronnie, if you "disagree with [my] conclusion that Yoga, Pranic Healing etc. as practiced by Catholic priests and nuns is incompatible with the Catholic faith," then it must mean that you agree that they are compatible. Further, it would be impossible for me or anyone to "study the underlying philosophy and faith perspective of these priests". What one can do is to listen to what they are saying, to read what they write, to observe what they do, to find out their teachings, to discern their motives, all of which I have endeavoured to do in my research and in my visits and interviews. About the "founders of Yoga, Reiki, [Pranic Healing] etc. have had philosophical presuppositions unacceptable to us," because of which I "have taken for granted that all practitioners of Yoga, Reiki etc. have the same unacceptable philosophical presuppositions and faith perspective," I must tell you that everyone who I talked to certainly did. All of them believe in chakras [psychic energy power centres in the body] and much else which I have detailed in my articles and cannot reproduce here. The nun sister at the Chennai Holistic Health Centre says that the red ray and the white ray of the Divine Mercy picture of Jesus are rays of Pranic Healing energy. A former national chairman of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal offered my friends a display of pranic healing energy "more powerful than charismatic healing"! The power in those systems is occult, even demonic, if I may dare say it. And when Catholic Christians practise these therapies, their minds are slowly corrupted and they assimilate more wrong ideas and practices. This has been my experience. One Salesian priest who is the Spiritual Director of no less than three pious organizations kept releasing cosmic energy as he explained, into the room as we chatted. And these are just examples. If you read in my articles the numerous pro-Yoga etc. books, written by Catholic priests, which I have reviewedthen my point will be very clear. Again, I quote you: "It is possible to practice Yoga etc. without accepting the underlying philosophies of their original proponents." Father Ronnie, in both my articles, THE TRUTH ABOUT YOGA PART I and II*, I have quoted from a range of authors- secular, Hindu, as well as evangelical and Catholic Christian, and they all unanimously agree differently than what you say. In fact they ALL firmly state that YOGA IS A SPIRITUAL PRACTICE! I am familiar with St. Johns derivation of the Logos concept from Greek philosophy, but it is incorrect to compare that with the assimilation of monistic philosophies into Christian practices. The systems of Yoga, Reiki, Pranic Healing etc. have certain presuppositions from which their practices are inseparable- like karma, reincarnation, etc. Today there is an established trend in the Church of trying to use everything non-Christian like the mantra OM, the Shiva Lingam, bringing them under the Lordship of Jesus. Thus we have "Christian Yoga", etc. We cannot Christianize the above, or what is of the occult! The analogy that you have tried to draw with the computer and its inventor will not do either. That is a material [mundane] issue. Ours is a SPIRITUAL one. My earlier articles also provide clear information that the Catholic Church has warned of THE DANGERS OF YOGA. I have Fr. Julian Saldanha S.J.s "Inculturation" in my library of over 4,000 philosophical, theological, spiritual and New Age books. Its contents are already analysed and commented on in my article "Inculturation or Hindu-isation?* I have a few more on the anvil and I would like to send them to you. Hindus and Buddhists may follow varying schools of philosophy. They can accommodate a pantheon of gods. Or no god. Jesus is yet another god or godman for them. Christianity is unique. And a number of Vatican Documents and Papal writings [like John Paul IIs Crossing the Threshold of Hope] make that clear. They are based on the Word of God. I trust them, and I hope that you will too, dear Fr. Ronnie. [NO RESPONSE RECEIVED] *These hardcopy-only articles have been reformatted, updated and posted on the website during 2007
MY LETTER TO MOST REV. IGNATIUS PINTO, ARCHBISHOP OF BANGALORE, DATED 01.03.2002, COPIES TO THE BISHOPS OF MADRAS-MYLAPORE, COIMBATORE AND OOTY
Copy to Fr. Ronnie Prabhu S.J., Bangalore SUBJECT: Holy Week retreat, 8-13 April 2001, preached by Fr. Ronnie Prabhu at Fr. Pios Retreat Centre, Kotagiri.
I would like to bring to your kind attention some of the misleading, confusing, and in my opinion, erroneous teachings of Fr. Ronnie.
Though he recognized [unlike some Catholic religious today] and spoke of the reality of sin, he preached mainly on Love. To be very brief, this is a subtle way of leading one away from the real issue[s]. It is one reason why the confessionals are empty [even if there remain in our churches the confessional boxes or the rare priest who will use them]. At one time he said, We are not sinners, but have to move from good to very good. He categorised sin as being either venial, or serious, or mortal. Most of our sins are venial, he said, and we dont have to be so scrupulous about sin that we put most of them in the other categories*. If that does not sound serious to you, I would like to tell you that at the close of the retreat, a teenage girl among the 40 participants had this to say: She had been five times to the Divine Retreat Centre, Muringoor, and confessed now to having become scrupulous about sin. After this retreat, she understood that she had become unnecessarily concerned about sin, as she had been scared by the preaching at the Divine retreats. Fr. Ronnies retreat changed her perspective. This was the best advertisement I had ever heard for dissuading people from making a retreat at Divine Centre where sin is called sin. I wonder how many of the retreatants here were similarly influenced to downplay the seriousness of sin. *see "A Critical Analysis of the Fundamental Option Theory" on page 6
2. LITURGICAL ABUSE
A majority of participants were from the charismatic stream of spirituality. Almost at the start of the programme, Father told us that that type of spirituality did not attract him. We appreciate the freedom of choice concerning the expression of ones spirituality, but Father asked us to avoid using the salutation Praise the Lord and to avoid singing Hallelujahs during the worship sessions at the retreat as "the Church does not permit the same during the period of Lent". Some of us objected, arguing that the restriction applied only in the use of the liturgy. Are we correct? If Father is to have his way, does it mean that charismatic prayer meetings cannot be conducted during Lent? On the other hand, despite the objections of the same people, he encouraged the participants to join the celebrant in his priestly prayer "Through Him, with Him, in Him" preceding the Great Amen. I understand that THAT is a liturgical abuse.
There was no final and satisfactory explanation of who the price was paid to, and Father anyway said that THE BLOOD OF JESUS SIMPLY MEANS THE LOVE OF JESUS. [Father returned to his favourite theme of love, skillfully avoiding as always, any need to dwell on SIN, and the redemptive aspect of the BLOOD]. The other retreatants, most of whom were docile, were very upset by the frequent interruptions of Fathers preaching by the few of us who could not tolerate his errors, especially on this subject. I have come across many religious, especially those who practise New Age alternative medicine and eastern meditation techniques, who hold that there is no such thing as sin, and that that which we call sin is in reality unlove, and so the solution to the worlds problems is love. While eloquently preaching this gospel of love, many basic Christian issues are quietly downplayed, as we have seen. This is done so subtly that only the very informed or spiritually discerning can detect the deception involved. We were taught that at the Judgement, God does not punish us. There is no judgement as such. We punish ourselves. Eternal damnation is simply our personal choice not to reconcile with the Father. Purgatory is but the remorse that we feel for our sins when we accept the Fathers embrace. Jesus spoke many times vividly describing the judgement and hell, and the Church teaches differently about Purgatory. Fr. Ronnie took up the parable in MATTHEW 21:33 ff about the landowner who sent out his servants who got beaten up and even killed. Father taught us that Jesus was referring to the founders of the other world religions, who were rejected. They were all sent out by the same Father who finally sent out Jesus. Apart from the fact that there is no substantiation for this teaching, it is a subtle introduction to syncretism at its finest: one religion, therefore, is as good as another. All religions come from the same Father. And Jesus is just one of the godmen. Someone disagreed and pointed out JOHN 14:6, but Father went on unfazed.
6. MEDITATION
From there it was a small step to "meditation on our bodies". Father said, rightly so far, that our bodies are Gods gift to us. He then proceeded to lead us in thanking, NOT THE GIVER OF THE GIFT, BUT THE GIFT ITSELF! We were guided in the technique of meditating on the different parts of our body, and thanking each part for its service and usefulness to us. NEVER ONCE WERE WE REQUIRED TO THANK GOD FOR OUR BODIES. Father, not unexpectedly, adopted the padmasana yoga posture for his meditation. The true nature of the parody of a Catholic retreat was unveiled when Father Ronnie actually exhorted us to chant the OM mantra. He spoke of the benefit of "repetition of mantras" and "some meditations which are very quiet like ZEN meditation." Many of the retreatants were so impressed by these profound revelations and novel prayers that they asked Father to ensure that he preached another such retreat for them during Holy Week the following year. There were just the very few of us who were deeply distressed about the retreat that we had been subjected to. We had never, ever attended anything like it. We had never imagined that such things carry on in the Church. I have written articles explaining why the OM mantra, Zen meditation etc. may not be used by Christians. My work is supported by references from Catholic books, even some written by priests, articles from Catholic periodicals, and Vatican Documents. Either they are all wrong, or Fr. Ronnie is seriously in error. After the retreat concluded, I gave Fr. Ronnie some of my work which he graciously accepted. Seven months later, I received a letter from him dated 11.11.2001 wherein he admitted that he had "done some Buddhist forms of meditation" and taught them too, including yoga. He explained his position. I replied on 19.12.2001 explaining mine, and what I believe is Holy Scriptures and that of the Church. Copies of both are enclosed herewith for your evaluation and response. Fr. Ronnie is an extremely likable person. I greatly respect and admire him and I have much to learn from him in many matters. But as a Catholic who holds to orthodoxy and truth, and for the sakes of those who might be exposed to similar retreats in the future, I am obliged to bring all the above to your kind attention, and for your action. Yours obediently in Christ Jesus, Michael Prabhu
On the last day of the retreat, in his talk on spirituality and praise, Fr. Ronnie Prabhu suggested that "even if we have to take a drink once in a way, enjoy it, it is a good thing". To recall, the theme of the retreat was "A closer walk with Jesus". Although I have abjured the consumption of alcohol since my 1982 personal encounter with Jesus [1 CORINTHIANS 3:16], quoting Fathers advice I made as if to buy myself a pint when we started on our return journey home. The ladies in our group, most of whom had found Fathers retreat very good, and were peeved at my constant interruptions of Fathers talks, were scandalized [Michael, how can you do such a thing? Arent you in full time ministry as a preacher of the Word of God?] I had made my point.
by John Young, Homiletic & Pastoral Review [courtesy: PETRUS, May-June 2006] EXTRACT: Many homilies which do not make a single false statement nevertheless tend to the perversion of the Catholic faith So great is the pressure of neo-modernism that it often plays a big part in shaping a priests presentation of the Faith to his people. This occurs through omitting what should be said, or by a wrong emphasis- as in overstating or understating. Over a long series of homilies, a pattern of omissions and wrong emphases may be established which effectively portrays a false picture of Christian doctrine and morality. Let us consider this in a number of key areas. A small God If we have a small God in our mind, it is that small God we will project when we talk about God. Demands He makes on us may seem outrageous. It may seem nonsense that a person would commit a mortal sin- a sin deserving hell- by deliberately missing Sunday Mass without a good reason. The very idea of a place of everlasting punishment may seem nonsense Do homilies convey to the hearers, directly or indirectly, the majesty of the triune God? Or do they leave the impression of a rather small, but gently benevolent, being? Does he seem one who could not possibly allow hell, and who would not even require that we make reparation for our sins? Jesus minus divinity Christianity is full of paradoxes; one of the greatest is found in the Incarnation: Christ is fully God and fully man. The temptation with a paradox is to emphasize one side to the neglect of the other. That happens with the Incarnation. Jesus is presented as though he were merely a good man, in the mode of Buddha or Socrates, although greater than they. He is not seen as God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God. Nor is his humanity seen rightly, for the gentler aspects are alone stressed, giving a distorted picture. These faults are found in many homilies. A hearer with no knowledge of Christianity would never suspect that the One the homilist is talking about is God Incarnate. It is as though the homilist abstracted from Christs divinity, wanting to present just his humanity. A result of this is that some things Our Lord did and said become inexplicable, for they are things a good man wouldnt do or say if he were no more than a man.
He would not say, He who loves father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me (Mt. 10:37). Even on the human level, the figure who seems to be presented in some homilies is so mild and gentle that an action like driving the traders out of the Temple and overturning their tables becomes inexplicable. Adam and Eve Homilies should teach that Adam and Eve were real individuals, should say that we are all descended from them, should relate the facts about original sin and its consequences- including physical death from which we would have been immune had Adam not sinned. These things are true, they are
interesting, they are relevant. Yet they are generally ignored or mentioned so vaguely and ambiguously that each person in the congregation can put his own interpretation on them. The Last Things Eschatology is fascinating, and when treated vividly and realistically can make a riveting homily. In practice however it not only isnt treated that way, but is rarely treated at all The realities of death, judgement, hell, purgatory and heaven should be clear and prominent in our view of things. Hell is hardly mentioned despite the strong emphasis Christ placed on it The homilist, following the example of Jesus, should teach uncompromisingly about the horror of eternal damnation. Purgatory is soft-pedalled, as though we were all saints who would go straight to heaven. Instead it should be made clear that suffering awaits us after death if we are not fully purified before then.. Moral questions The hard issues are either ignored or glossed over. We are often told in homilies that we must not judge, but this statement is rarely analysed. We cant judge the interior dispositions of people, but we can and should judge the morality of different types of behaviour
MY COMMENTS:
1. The above is not only a confirmation of what Fr. Ronnie Prabhu is, but also of the Jesuits in general, keeping in mind that Fr. Ronnie was the Provincial of Karnataka, and that Ashirvad is a prominent Jesuit institution in Bangalore. 2. It is also an example of the true nature of the "inter-religious dialogue" that most priests, and especially the Jesuits, are engaged in. Preaching of the Gospel and of the unicity of Jesus Christ have been completely dismissed from their agenda. The participants "wonder at the depth of spirituality in every religion" precludes, in my opinion, any possibility of their ever experiencing the fullness of revelation in the Bible and the Catholic faith. 3. Against the oft-repeated arguments that yoga is not a spiritual practice, yoga is integral to a retreat on SPIRITUALITY! 4. This SAR News Report is taken from THE EXAMINER, April 9, 2005. Evidently the Archdiocesan weekly of Bombay finds no problem with this kind of inter-faith "retreat". Neither did the Archbishop of Bangalore nor the Bishops of Karnataka. 5. The adverse influence of the Indian Jesuits is also strongly felt in the Federation of Asian Bishops Conferences [FABC], Hong Kong in the areas of inculturation and inter-faith dialogue. A separate report on leading dissident Indian Jesuits and the influence of the Jesuits in the FABC is under preparation.
A March 2006 UCAN report Bishops And Religious Strike 'Historic' Unity On Pastoral Plan: "Jesuit Father Pradeep Sequeira expressed the hope that a collaborative implementation of the plan in the state may inspire other regions too. In his view parallel Churches and activities have already confused the people, so networking and collaboration are the need of the hour. The senior priest, who runs Ashirvad, a spirituality center in Bangalore, pointed out that not only the bishops and Religious but also many of the pious associations and lay movements in the dioceses also have pledged commitment to work together to promote the one Church, one vision, one mission formula." ASHIRVAD is a Jesuit centre on St. Marks Road in Bangalore. It is not only used by the Jesuits themselves for their own New Age pursuits as well as questionable inter-faith activities such as the above, but also commercially rented out for New Age programs, as when International Reiki Grandmaster Paula Horan came to Bangalore on December 14, 2000. In 2007 alone, I had written to Most Rev. Bernard Moras, the Archbishop of Bangalore, a total of 22 letters including 8 reminders on at least 12 different issues. [There were 3 more from 2008 to 2010.] All were sent by email, and several were sent by post as hardcopy printouts. He has not acknowledged a single one of them. This was no. 4 in the series:
In the news report [see following page], we noted that "Rector Ronnie Prabhu introducing Sri Sri to the gathering, said that with prayer and love one can become Pandit and Sri Sri has shown the way. He was proud to mention that Sri Sri was a student of St. Joseph's College, Bangalore." Were I Rector of a Catholic institution, I would be absolutely ashamed to admit that one of my students not only failed to learn a single useful thing about Jesus Christ [from the point of view of eternal salvation] during his sojourn in my college, but went on to found a successful New Age religion that has millions of adherents worldwide, which teaches nothing substantive that the depositum fidei already does not have in the fullest measure, but which is in fact inimical to the Catholic faith of the institution that he studied in. Sri Sri, in fact, falsifies the teachings of Jesus in his discourses.
Fr. Ronnie, instead, takes pride in the knowledge that Ravi Shankar grew up to become a Pandit and has shown the way. A way that holds that everything is God, that man is God, a way that rejects the reality of sin and the need of a Redeemer. A way that leads millions away from a knowledge of the One who came to earth and died so that all men may be saved. Does this have anything to say about the rason detre of, and the formation in, Catholic educational institutions? But then such minor details will not worry a priest who believes that one religion is as good as another. Does the mention that Fr. Ronnie introduced Sri Sri to the gathering indicate a prior familiarity? It certainly does. Fr. Ronnie points us to a New Age godman [read the separate article on Sri Sri], not Jesus Christ. Students of St. Josephs College in Bangalore who belong to local prayer groups have shared with me that they are troubled by the beliefs and teachings of this priest. But I know it from my personal experience in a retreat under him.
FR. RONNIE NOW IN MANGALORE. FROM THIS MINISTRY, AN ALERT ON FR. RONNIE: 2007 When I came to hear that Fr. Ronnie Prabhu, S.J. was transferred from Bangalore to Mangalore, I sent out this alert:
From: prabhu To: Michael Prabhu Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: ALERT: FR. RONNIE PRABHU SJ. TRANSFERRED TO MANGALORE Dear friends in the Bcc, Forgive me for not writing individually but there are too many of you.
I have been informed that Fr. Ronnie Prabhu SJ., former Jesuit Provincial of Karnataka has been transferred to Mangalore. I do not have details, so any information from you as to his place of posting and nature of duties will be most welcome. This alert is so that you and your friends watch out for the New Age errors that he has been known to propagate when in Bangalore. He is closely associated with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's Art of Living Programme, [see report at www.ephesians511.net]* and is a practitioner and proponent of Vipassana meditation, Yoga and Zen Buddhism among other things. A separate report on his erroneous teachings is under completion. If you have friends in Mangalore whom you think should be made aware, please forward this alert to them. Love, Michael *NEW AGE GURUS_1 SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR AND THE 'ART OF LIVING' http://ephesians-511.net/docs/NEW_AGE_GURUS_1_SRI_SRI_RAVI_SHANKAR_AND_THE_ART_OF_LIVING.doc *ARCHBISHOP OF BANGALORE_LETTERS http://ephesians-511.net/docs/ARCHBISHOP_OF_BANGALORE_LETTERS.doc From the responses, I learned that he is the new Director of the Fatima Retreat House, Jeppu, Mangalore.
MY RESPONSE TO DD
From: prabhu To: DD Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: RONNIE PRABHU Dear DD,
God Bless You, You have been defending not me or my ministry, but the Truth. In the last so many years I have never once made an error in any report. Everything is thoroughly documented and personally verified or researched. And copies are sent, mind you, to all the Bishops concerned and the Commissions too. I appreciate the sincere Christian concerns of our dear Catholic friend. He writes genuinely. But an apparently good Christian may not truly be one - when he falsifies Church teaching and even the Bible, which is what Fr. Ronnie does. Not only have I written to Fr. Ronnie as our friend suggests I do, but I have met him and been with him for days and I am following his anti-Catholic activities for years. There is plenty of precedent in the New Testament where the apostles named errant leaders among the new Christians. It is our duty to do so even now, and when we do, we are NOT slandering their names. We must protect Catholics from error preached by priests and Bishops. I am attaching here an incomplete report on Fr. Ronnie that I am updating and which I have not found time to complete and publish since October 2006 [of course the original report is available in hardcopy]. This attachment will vindicate me. Michael From: sonia pinto To: prabhu Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: ART OF LIVING PROGRAMME IN "ASHIRVAD" Dear Michael, This is shocking!!! Why is this even allowed...How can we support you and speak strongly against these erroneous decisions...obviously leading the faithful, leave alone the non-believers astray! What a shame, instead of being evangelisers of the Truth, we are part of a big Lie! Keep up the good work, Michael, we owe you a lot! Regards and prayers, Sonia Pinto, DUBAI From: sonia pinto To: prabhu Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Praise God! Dear Mike, Of course, you can use my response....however small my voice is, if it makes a difference to speak for God and against all evil...by all means, use it. I would represent the masses of concerned families who won't watch our generation or that of our children walk away from the Light of Jesus. May God have mercy on us and especially our shepherds who are so responsible for the faithful! Love and regards, Sonia THE ALERT WAS FORWARDED TO MANGALOREANCATHOLICS AND POSTED BY THE MODERATOR OF MC Posted by: sonia pinto Thu Jun 7, 2007 10:37 pm (PST) MC DIGEST NO. 788 June 8, 2007 "I have been informed that Fr. Ronnie Prabhu SJ., former Jesuit Provincial of Karnataka has been transferred to Mangalore. I do not have any details, so any information from you as to his place of posting and nature of duties will be most welcome. This alert is so that you and your friends watch out for the New Age errors that he has been known to propagate when in Bangalore. He is closely associated with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's Art of Living Programme, [see report at www.ephesians-511.net] and is a practitioner and proponent of Vipassana meditation, Yoga and Zen Buddhism among other things. A separate report on his erroneous teachings is under completion. If you have friends in Mangalore whom you think should be made aware, please forward this alert to them. Love, Michael Prabhu" Sonia Pinto
THE ABOVE POSTING ATTRACTED THE FOLLOWING TWO SCATHING RESPONSES, POSTED IN MC
1. Posted by: arundsj@yahoo.com Fri Jun 8, 2007 9:47 pm MC DIGEST NO. 789 June 9, 2007 I wonder who are these scrap Sonia Pinto or Michael! Michael sends a mail from Sonia's email ID. Who is the sender - Michael or Sonia? Although a messenger is not important in a messege process, here both are significant. I am totally disgusted with this kind of 'fundamentalistic' attitude of these frogs - Sonia or Michael. Fr Ronnie Prabhu has been appointed as the Director of FRH by the Provincial of Karnataka Jesuits and what's special about it! Transfers and appointments are part of our human society and does not call for an extra alert when a religious is transfered. There is no such need! Who appointed Michael or Sonia a refree in the bedroom to alert / warn friends in Mangalore? With his vast knowledge and anti-Indian spirituality views Michael has done enough damage to the Church in India. Its time Michael stops all kinds of unneccessary bragging and uses his time for some constructive purposes like yoga, vipasana, or Zen that help him to release stress and open his eyes to the wider reality. Either Sonia or Michael, I urge you to stop this propaganda against a solid man who tries to dialogue Christianity with other faiths without compromising the Church's teachings. You are simply beating a dead elephant. Whatever be your views on yoga or other kinds of new age spirituality, kindly restrict yourself to your specialization. You are not invited to pollute the minds and hearts of the people. In case possible, sow some seeds of good will and brotherhood. As you have mentioned rightly in your mail that you have no details. Its totally true. In such a case, its wise to shut your mouth and keep quiet rather than make unhealthy noise. It would spoil your reputation and along with it you are poisoning the others. And finally, Michael or Sonia, you will need at least 10 births to gauge the good work done by Fr Ronnie
Prabhu SJ, the formal Provincial of Karnataka Jesuit Province. With wishes for your 'conversion', Arun D'Souza, S.J. Tokyo, Japan
JESUIT BROTHER, WOULD-BE PRIEST ARUN DSOUZA WAS ONE OF THE MODERATORS OF ANOTHER LIST, KONKANICATHOLICS, TILL HE WAS REMOVED AFTER I POINTED OUT THE PRO-NEW AGE AND LIBERAL POSITIONS IN HIS POSTINGS ON THAT FORUM TOO. HIS ERRORS ARE RECORDED IN OTHER REPORTS - MICHAEL
2. Posted by: "austin colaco" aecolaco@ntlworld.com Fri Jun 8, 2007 12:41 pm MC DIGEST NO. 789 June 9 2007 Hello Mangalorean Catholics: Our family has known Fr. Ronnie Prabhu for the past 53 years ever since he was a little kid in Milagres, Mangalore. I have met ONLY two TRUE Mangalorean Catholics in my life to date......one of them is Fr. Ronnie and I am not the other! This piece from Michael or is it Sonia spreading evil connotations about Fr. Ronnie are utterly despicable. I do not want to waste too much time in expressing what I really feel about this "Michael" fellow. All I can say is what Fr. Ronnie has learnt and forgotten in his life, this poor sod Michael may not ever achieve in his whole life. Ignorance is bliss Michael. But when one is ignorant, one should shut up. Austin Colaco
In the almost 10 years of this ministry, the only negative or hostile reaction has been from four or maybe five priests. Significantly, all of them are themselves involved in some or other New Age activity. Equally significantly, in the context of the nature of your two letters, ALL of their correspondence has been civil. The Indian Church has around 175 Bishops and 15 Commissions. My reports, alerts and exposs on a wideranging host of issues are sent to ALL these Bishops and Commissions. In the past four years alone, I have received probably almost 1000 responses from over 150 Bishops and CBCI Commissions against my communications. These do not include the hundreds of letters that this ministry receives from Catholic priests. In all humility, I suggest that this must be a record of sorts, especially considering the nature of my disclosures to them, and a vindication of the spirit of this ministry, since not one single Bishop or Commission has till date had anything critical to say about it. In fact many of them, including three Cardinals, have heartily welcomed it, and thanked this writer for making them aware of issues that were unknown to them. Let me also add that similar letters were received from the Apostolic Nuncio, the Federation of Asian Bishops' Conferences and the Vatican. An "alert" is always followed by a detailed report. In the case of Fr. Ronnie Prabhu SJ., two reports were made several years ago when he was the Karnataka Jesuit provincial, sent to then Archbishop of Bangalore [who is reported to have taken the priest strongly to task on the basis of what I disclosed], and widely circulated in hardcopy [copies still freely available]. These reports were based on my personal experience in a live-in retreat with the priest and on his exchange of letters with me. As it is not possible for me to list here the errors that he taught, suffice it to say that his teachings were [and continue to be] not in line with those of Rome. When he does refer to the Conciliar and other Documents, Fr. Ronnie gives his own interpretation of them. To put it simply but strongly, a number of Fr. Ronnie's teachings are not just doctrinally wrong but spiritually dangerous. As I had listed over a dozen of these errors, and explained to the Archbishop why I thought they were dangerous, if Fr. Ronnie had been able to convince His Grace that I had misunderstood him in even one area, His Grace would have written to me about it.
Since that initial report, I have collected much fresh evidence of this priest's New Age activities, towards releasing an up-to-date report which will be shortly available on this ministry's website, www.ephesians511.net. To personally respond to Austin first, I do not know what you mean by "TRUE" Mangalorean Catholics, and it is sad that you met just two of them in your life. But, if Fr. Ronnie is your example of a TRUE Mangalorean Catholic, then I am happy for the sake of the Church that you haven't come across more of that type. Your choice of words however, reflects on you, and I am certain that Fr. Ronnie who is above all a gentleman, would himself strongly disapprove of your referring to me as "this Michael fellow" and "this poor sod, Michael", and ordering me to "shut up". I myself would not think of writing that way to an enemy of the Church! To personally respond to dear Arun, now. Arun D'Souza, Jesuit seminarian in Tokyo, is my friend, and we have corresponded with each other, haven't we? [See excerpt of that correspondence on page 8 of my article on YOGA* on the website]. *YOGA http://ephesians-511.net/docs/YOGA.doc. ARUN: "I believe in the power of yoga, and in the Indian context yoga could be an inevitable part of christianity. I consider yoga as yet another form of coming closer to the message of God." [From: ANiSha To: Austine J. Crasta ; prabhu Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 8:58 AM] Arun, how did you judge that I sent an email from Sonia's e-address? And do you think that I lack the courage to write directly? You have yourself indicated that you know me and my ministry well ["vast knowledge and anti-Indian spirituality", and the rest of that paragraph]. But it is strange that you did not say a single negative word to me all these years. Aren't you aware that around 800 Mangalorean Catholics, with whom both you and I are closely associated, stand by my position on these matters? And, your language!! "scrap Sonia Pinto or Michael!" [I don't know if you meant to write "crap"], "these frogs - Sonia or Michael", "refree in the bedroom!"! Not very edifying coming from someone preparing to be a priest. Or is this the trend in the Jesuit seminaries now? [Watch out for my forthcoming expos on the JESUITS. Don't be alarmed, even Jesuit Bishops and priests, one who is in a senior capacity in Rome and is a Mangalorean, are in agreement with me on my findings.] I am one of those Catholics who stick with Hebrews 9: 27 [NO rebirths, not even ONE, as against the 10 you have wished for Sonia and me], and this is one more problem today, that seminarians and priests can even THINK about these things which are not Christian, and pray for the people whom they are ordained to minister to, a "conversion" from the Sacraments and the Word of God to "some constructive purposes like yoga, vipasana, or Zen". No thank you, dear Arun. By the by, Sonia is a concerned Catholic who loves Mangalore and her Church. She chose to post my alert on MC, and I was unaware of her decision and action until I read the Digest myself. I pray that God bless her abundantly, and raise more Catholic laity like her who have the courage to risk being unpopular and receiving flak from fellow Catholics simply because she loves Jesus and His Church more than she does others, JOHN 21:15. I also thank Salu Soz [the moderator] for permitting freedom of expression on this forum and allowing Sonia's posting as well as your responses. Michael Prabhu, Metamorphose Catholic Ministries against the New Age, Chennai
From: prabhu To: MangaloreanCatholics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: FR. RONNIE PRABHU SJ. SENDING FOR THE SECOND TIME, PLEASE
For the first time ever, the moderator of MangaloreanCatholics did not approve my posting. My reminder of June 22 was also ignored. I learnt that there was considerable protest from supporters of Fr. Ronnie as a result of which no further correspondence on the subject was permitted on the forum. He is a regular contributor to MC -- either directly or by proxy through his supporters who promote his programmes, and has great influence in Mangalorean circles and that should therefore be a cause of serious concern to all.
2008 POSTED IN MANGALOREANCATHOLICS DIGEST NO. 926 DATED JULY 8, 2008: STRESS/ANGER MANAGEMENT
The teachings of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar - an Indian guru who is a rising star among Eastern spiritualists. His Art of Living philosophy starts each day with a 20-minute special breathing exercise and meditation, developed by him. "His vision of a stress-free, violence-free society is very practical provided those who cause such situations take part in Shanker's teachings as he says. Many of the world's problems are due to a failure to understand how breathing can help people cope with life's everyday stress. Shalin Desai, one of the millions around the world who follow the teachings of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, leads the Art of Living meditation because he is searching for ways to reduce the stress of work and family. The entire Art of Living philosophy is about using breathing to influence emotions, rather than the other way around. Practiced in the morning, he said, the techniques can influence a person throughout the day. For people troubled by their past or worried about their future, meditation can bring them back to the peaceful present, enable to cope the day-today stress at work and develop a better rapport in dealing with family and other people. Desai is convinced that wars can be stopped and inmates reformed through this sort of mental anger management, change that comes one breath at a time, provided those who are responsible for these calamities such as war, violence or stress at work become his students I came across a simple prayer to Our Lord, behind a holy picture our church distributed one Sunday. It goes like this: PRAYER: O kind and most sweet Jesus, Saviour of Mankind, behold me kneeling before you [by Maurice DMello] From: prabhu To: MangaloreanCatholics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: STRESS/ANGER MANAGEMENT: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar My dear Maurice, You have combined a prayer to Jesus [the only Son of God] with a glowing tribute to a mortal man who has encouraged his followers to deify him [worship him as god], and who teaches false things about Jesus and the Gospel. I am sure that you must be unaware of these facts. His breathing exercises and meditations are not what you and I might want to believe. I have read his writings and listened to him on TV. So much of what he says is so infantile, even stupid, that any Indian politician can preach better than he. One example is what he says about sunshine and shadow. You admit that he is a leading 'spiritualist'. Don't you think that the Bible has all the spiritual wisdom that man needs? Sri Sri Ravi Shankar had, after all, to take his degree from a Catholic college in Bangalore [though it is evident that our Jesuits gave him nothing spiritual in his time there.] You might want to check out my well-researched article on SSRS at www.ephesians-511.net . Warm regards, Michael Prabhu
My above letter was posted in MC digest no. 927 dated July 10, 2008 along with this one:
Dear Mr. D'Mello, Thank you so much for this posting. There is so much of wisdom that is lost because we think that certain practices are "Pagan" and so come from the Devil. I do hope there are more like you to share this wisdom
SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR GETS AS MUCH PUBLICITY IN MC AS FR RONNIE PRABHU POSTED IN MANGALOREANCATHOLICS DIGEST NO. 1070 DATED NOVEMBER 9, 2008: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is on a 'Fall tour ' in three major American cities to show case his brand of Hinduism.
http://www.persecution.in/archive/2008/11/2 In Houston, this new age guru Sri Ravishankar -according to his organizations media campaign, will be proclaimed as the honourary citizen and honorary Good will ambassador. In the city of Atlanta, he head quarters of CNN he will be presented with the Phoenix award. Sri Ravishankar is reported to have signed an MOU with mayor of Houston, Mr Bill white to conduct stress and relief programme, the city youth, returning war veterans. Ironically, this New Age Guru maintained deafening silence when Christians were butchered and burnt alive in Kandhamal district of Orissa. Rev. Fr Bernard died as a result of the brutal assault a religious sister Sr Meena was savagely raped by the Hindutva activists in Orissa, and this pogrom to eliminate Christians in Orissa, was not even condemned by this self-titled messenger of peace and goodwill. The Sangh Parivar involvement in attacking nuns, priests and peaceful Christian are, suppressed, underprojected or forgotten with ease by the social thinking process. A Social Audit should be conducted to investigate the use of the funds pouring into Sangh Parivar coffers for Social work in India, these funds are being used by these radicals where thousands of impressionable minds are being fed- hate campaigns His close association with Dr Praveen Togadia and other Hindutva outfits in Karnataka and Orissa confirm that he is the 'modern mask' the Bajarng Dal and other Hindutva outfits systematically carried out over 960 attacks against Christians ,as reported by Global council of Indian Christians (GCIC). Moreover, Ravishankar added fuel to the fire by joining the insane voices, at the peak attacks against Christians, by his statement of conversion to Christianity as an aggression against Hinduism. Ravishankar your silence is SHAMEFUL, and debases your goodwill messenger avatar. Your attempts to white wash the persecution against Christians is an unpardonable act of violation against humanity. Your proximity with Praveen Togadia and others consistent propagation that Christian missionaries convert by force and fraud is thinkable thought, good enough of a pretext to kill and maim them. So the Bajrang Dal activists were killed while making bombs in Nanded or Kanpur -these are ample proof of their 'Hindutva Terrorist Agenda. The consistent false propagation that Christian missionaries convert by force and fraud are proved baseless and fabricated by reports by the human rights groups to the contrary,unfortunately, the mainstream media rarely publishes these facts. While a section of the media claim that they are objective, the pattern of reporting of large section of media on anti-Christian violence is hidden in the small columns in the back pages while the acts of terror hog the front page banner headlines. Channels keep screaming about a Muslim terrorist, while reports of violence against Christian are buried somewhere under the weight of the news of 'jehadi terrorist', and of those doing aggressive conversions violence, they can dare the state to ban them and see the consequences! So on the one hand, it appears logical to Ban SIMI- on the other hand - calls to Ban the Bajrang Dal are termed absurd, despite its role in Orissa and Karnataka violence. The outcome of the propaganda, indoctrination, which is the culmination of the same process. Sri Sri Ravishankar is part of the Hindutva propaganda machinery with questionable intent and content. [by Maurice DMello] From: prabhu To: MangaloreanCatholics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: Hindutva propaganda machinery Dear Maurice, In February 2006, TWO ARCHBISHOPS [Bangalore and Delhi] graced the Silver Jubilee celebrations of this New Age guru. One major problem with the Church in India is that most of its leaders are totally ignorant, totally inept, or totally compromised. My article exposing the falsehood in the teachings of this godman -- and recording his Catholic connections [he has many chelas among our eminent clergy] -- may be read at www.ephesians-511.net. Michael Prabhu
2009 MY 2007 PROPHECY FULFILLED: FR. RONNIE BRINGS AOL TO MANGALORE. POSTED IN MANGALOREANCATHOLICS DIGEST NO. 1596 DATED AUGUST 17, 2009: THE ART OF LIVING PROGRAM at Fatima Retreat House, Mangalore.
Phase One of The Art of Living (originated by Sri Sri Sri Ravishankar), a 24 hour program, was organized at Fatima Retreat House, Mangalore and conducted by Dr Vinaya Poornima of the Art of Living Foundation 13-16 Aug 2009.
Of the 36 participants 27 were Catholics, of whom 8 were religious sisters. The organizer, Fr Ronnie Prabhu SJ, director of FRH, who had already done the course earlier, was again a fulltime participant to carefully see whether there is anything in the program that compromised the Christian faith.
A questionnaire was circulated among the Catholic participants after the program and they have unanimously said they found nothing that went against the faith; in fact the course had practically nothing to do with religion. Most said that the course may be unhesitatingly recommended for all Catholics; a couple of them said they recommended unhesitatingly, but only to adult Catholics as some explanation may be needed for youngsters and children. Summing up the opinions expressed by participants Fr Ronnie said that the course aims at threefold health benefits: first of all physical health. The bulk of the course, some sixty five to seventy percent of it, is different forms of breathing exercises particularly in the sequential and rhythmic breathing called sudarshana kriya, expanding the lungs and taking in increasingly large quantities of oxygen, and also yogic exercises energizing the muscles and nerves of the limbs of the body with very perceptible effect on the energy level of the body. This certainly contributes to good health, and all of us, particularly the poor would save a lot on medical bills if we knew to combine our prayer with health-promoting exercises. The course also promotes spiritual health: although there was no formal prayer, the reflections given, emphasize that we are not isolated nomads but part and parcel of the one universe, related to one another and hence must take responsibility for one another as children of one family. We must live in harmony, accepting people as they are, and guard against imputing negative motives to others, and must be ever ready to forgive and stretch our a hand in reconciliation. Living and rooted firmly in the present, we must find our happiness within, and take the ups and downs of life in stride, conscious that opposites are complementary. There are many negative elements in us anger, vindictiveness, lust and attachment etc; we have inherited these and we must surrender them all to the Source of all, and keep our hearts purified. While there are many things we may be legitimately proud of, pride will degenerate into arrogance if it is bereft of sensitivity and humility. All this, Fr Ronnie pointed out, blended so well with the teachings of Jesus and our own Christian spiritual practice. The course also promotes social health: it was a largely very secular (in the sense not a religious) and yet a clearly spiritual program, and participating in this program were people of different religions, a Muslim, many Catholics and a few Hindus, and at a spiritual level we felt we were all one family and interacted with one another at that level and this is exactly what the Church desires to promote through inter-religious dialogue. Whatever misgivings I had were all cleared away because of the very secular nature of the program. In fact it has helped me to appreciate my Catholic faith in a deeper way, promoted my awareness for serving others, given me the confidence for maintaining good physical health, and enhanced my desire to grow in my spiritual life. I consider myself blessed to have had an opportunity to attend this Phase One of The Art of Living Program. Prof Olga B Noronha (a participant)
MY COMMENTS: THE ERRORS OF NEW AGE GURU SRI SRI RAVI SHANKARS FALSE TEACHINGS AND THE DANGERS OF THE ART OF LIVING PROGRAMME ARE ELABORATED IN MY REPORT
http://ephesians-511.net/docs/NEW_AGE_GURUS_1_SRI_SRI_RAVI_SHANKAR_AND_THE_ART_OF_LIVING.doc.
PROF. OLGA NORONHAS WRITE-UP IN MANGALOREANCATHOLICS CLEARLY SHOWS HOW WELL-EDUCATED BUT SPIRITUALLY IGNORANT CATHOLICS ARE DECEIVED BY PRIESTS LIKE FR. RONNIE PRABHU, THEMSELVES DECEIVED. YOGA IS A SPIRITUAL EXERCISE [SEE YOGA ON MY WEBSITE]. SUDARSHANA KRIYA IS JUST SRI SRI RAVI SHANKARS NAME FOR HIS COMMERCIAL BRAND OF YOGA. ITS PHILOSOPHIES ARE HINDU. NORONHA SAYS THAT the course had practically nothing to do with religion BUT also promotes spiritual health and enhanced my desire to grow in my spiritual life. NEW AGE REJECTS RELIGION FOR SPIRITUALITY. IT HOLDS THAT ANGER AND LUST [SEE ABOVE] ARE NOT SINS AS TAUGHT BY THE CHURCH BUT negative elements WHICH we have inherited. SINCE THERE IS NO SIN, THERE IS NO NEED FOR ONE TO REPENT - we must surrender them all to the Source of all - AND THERE IS NO NEED OF A REDEEMER IN JESUS CHRIST. TWENTY-SEVEN CATHOLICS INCLUDING NINE NUNS WERE RE-PROGRAMMED BY FR. RONNIE PRABHU WITHOUT THEIR REALIZING IT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT A GROUP OF CATHOLICS FROM MANGALORE SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE BISHOP OF MANGALORE ASKING HIM TO STOP FR. RONNIE PRABHU FROM HOLDING SUCH PROGRAMMES FOR CATHOLICS. THREE RESPONSES POSTED IN MANGALOREANCATHOLICS DIGEST NO. 1598 DATED AUGUST 18, 2009 BY FRANCIS SUNIL LOBO OF BANGALORE YOGA
Many denominations banned yoga in their institution including Vatican. Still church follows these occult practices. Vatican warning about these occult practices. I think they know more than Vatican. 38 people attended yoga program including 8 religious nuns in Gods house. Where are we going? Jesus is forgotten. Please go through this below article. It is a big article. But I have written some points from this article. http://faithleap.home.att.net/yoga.pdf Yoga originated as one of the systems of orthodox Hindu philosophy. In Sanskrit it means union and it seeks the union of the individual with the divine by means of exercise, breathing, posture, diet and meditation. The effects of yoga are similar to hypnosis. Have you ever seen a magician hypnotize someone and make them act out at their command without the person being conscious of their action? In being hypnotized by the magician, the individual is giving up his or her free will and conscious control. When the individual goes into a trance brought about by yoga, who or what is in control? The person is giving away its mind to something. Yoga is not a Christian practice and can lead individuals away from the Catholic Church first and then away from Christ. In todays society there is no generic religion, but yoga could be said to be one. It describes itself like a way to be in harmony with ones own body. Its marketing techniques convey the idea that it is a way of reducing stress and improving the mental well being of an individual. Where is the error? Yoga is a religious practice that will lead Christians astray. It yokes the individual to self-search into the psychic powers of the mind. It is a practice without the divine revelation of Christ trying to make sense of the world and what it is all about. We are in need of a Savior. Without Christ we cannot work our own salvation. Through Christ alone there is salvation. The theory of the limited, incomplete, or imperfect character of the revelation of Jesus Christ, which would be complementary to that found in other religions, is contrary to the Church's faith. The God that yoga talks about is an energy. If you are able to tap into that energy you will be like God. You will be enlightened which is what the Hindus believe Christ to be. The God we worship as Christians is a personable God, a Triune God. We are the creature, He is the Creator. How can a Catholic be lead into yoga thinking it is a spiritual rich method? By thinking of the inner God, which yoga is trying to approach as the Holy Spirit? That is not what yoga is talking about. The misunderstanding of what yoga is, promotes the practice of yoga among the Catholic population. Well meaning Catholics are introduced to elements of Gnosticism which the Early Fathers fought to eradicate. In this case ignorance is hazardous to the faith. The solution to the problem is to learn what Christs message of salvation is all about. God is the creator. We are His creation redeemed by Jesus Christ. There is a need to remember that Mans nature calls him to seek the truth while ignorance keeps him in a condition of servitude. Indeed, the whole Church, as the salt of the earth and the light of the world (cf. Mt 5:13 f.), must bear witness to the truth of Christ which sets us free. Catholic point of view: When talking to someone in the Hindu religion, who practices yoga, it is easy to conclude that they are trying to obtain salvation by their own efforts outside of Christ. They see Christ as a good person, an enlighten one, even a good prophet but that is it. The Hindu belief from which Yoga originated believes in reincarnation and predestination. It lessens the value of life. To put it simply, it makes life a recyclable commodity. In reincarnation, if your life doesnt work this time, there will be another chance in another life. There is no sin. There is no devil. According to yoga, God is an energy. It interprets humanity without the divine revelation of Christ. We are to worship God with our free will, not giving up our free will. We align our will to Gods will, but we never lose our identity. If we were to seek unity with God, like a yogi aspires to do, we would be looking for equality with God, something that not even Jesus looked for on this earth. Our attitude in our every day lives should be as Philippians 2:5-8 describes it: Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. Without the horizon of God, searching within by the use of yoga, a human being can get lost. With limited mental resources searching for the divine outside of Christ is dementia. It is a sin, because it is sinful to disregard the wondrous sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross to try to reach salvation, health and redemption outside of Christ. With Christs word ever present, we will know the truth, and the truth will set us free. Without the horizon of God, searching within by the use of yoga, a human being can get lost. With limited mental resources searching for the divine outside of Christ is dementia. It is a sin, because it is sinful to disregard the wondrous sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross to try to reach salvation, health and redemption outside of Christ. With Christs word ever present, we will know the truth, and the truth will set us free. Yoga is the taste of the tree of knowledge. It promises health and peace to the troubled soul and the only
thing that it asks in return is total abandonment of ones free will to something or someone that is quoted as universal energy. Yoga is non-Christian practice. We need to be aware of the danger of yoking ourselves with pagan practices. As Paul says in 2 Cor 6:14: Do not be yoked with those who are different, with unbelievers. For what partnership do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?
CHRISTIAN YOGA?
Is there such a thing as Christian yoga*? It is now common to see Jesus called a guru or depicted as a yogi in Indian Christian literature and art forms, seated in the yogis traditional padmasana posture with his right hand exhibiting the upadesa mudra (meaning instruction through meditation and contemplation), thumb and index finger forming a circle, three fingers extended upright. One who has himself attained enlightenment through sustained effort in the practice of meditation and yoga, and now disciples others in their similar quest, is a guru; and a yogi is one who does yoga to achieve its sole declared objective, unity with the impersonal Brahman. *See Section IV for a detailed examination of the debate on Christian Yoga. We have seen already [page 3] what the lotus position used in meditation is meant to achieve. The clear distinction between Creator and creature means that divine truth cannot be reached by human effort, but requires revelation. But in most eastern religions, truth is arrived at through a form of instruction that comes in meditation, by intuition and not through words, thought process, or reasoning. Jesus Christ is the eternal Word of God, and God has always taught and directed His people by His word. The upadesa mudra communicates what the guru himself has attained, and he communicates not by spoken words, logic or reason. To call Jesus a guru or to depict him as a yogi is to deny his divinity and perfection and suggest he had a fallen nature subject to avidya and maya, from which he had to be liberated through the discipline of yoga. The widespread use of the "Yesu Krist Jayanti" logo with the hand of Jesus in an upadesa mudra actually misrepresented Jesus, equating the divine Wisdom of God with one who meditates in the hope of attaining divinity. This misrepresentation was further compounded by the printing and release of a special postage stamp featuring the same logo, by the Indian Government on 25 December 1999. If this spiritual discipline has for thousands of years been developed and employed for the specific purpose of achieving divinity, how can it, or its techniques, now be used to achieve the very opposite- the Christians total surrender to God? It has also become fashionable to adopt pagan practices into the Church in the name of inculturation, supposedly making them useable by bringing them under the Lordship of Jesus. This has led to such aberrations as the Yoga Healing Mass which also implies that the Eucharistic Lord lacks sufficiency. While it is certainly commendable that all things be brought under the Lordship of Jesus, it is highly questionable whether all of them may be safely inducted into regular Christian worship. Occult practices based on esoteric philosophies that are the very antithesis of Biblical teaching will always remain under the dominion of the father of all lies. To justify their activities, Catholics promoting yoga etc. frequently take refuge in the Vatican Document Nostra Aetate [NA] quoting that The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men [n 2]. But half-truths can be more deceptive than a downright lie, as can be seen from their unfailing omission of the very next sentence, which says: Indeed, she proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ the Way, the Truth and the Life (John 14:6) in whom men may find the fullness of life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself, without which the two sentences quoted by them communicate quite the opposite of what they were meant to. Such deceptive use of the above Church teaching is employed in order to convince uninformed Catholics that practices of pagan origin and application such as yoga are true and holy and reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men.
THE VATICAN DOCUMENT ON THE NEW AGE http://www.ephesians511.net/documents/YOGA.doc Jesus Christ, the Bearer of the Water of Life, A Christian Reflection on the New Age February 3, 2003 http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_ne w-age_en.html: Some of the traditions that flow into New Age are: ancient Egyptian occult practices, Yoga and so on. [n 2.1] It states that for New Agers there is a need to experience the salvation hidden within themselves (selfsalvation) by mastering psycho-physical techniques which lead to definitive enlightenment. Yoga, Zen, Transcendental Meditation and tantric exercises lead to an experience of self-fulfilment or enlightenment [n 2.3.4.1].
Yoga spirituality is inherently holistic [treating the whole man] in nature and hence is easily compatible with other New Age therapies. New Age parlours, resorts and retreats invariably offer yoga and meditation along with aerobics, massage, martial arts and Alternative Therapies. There is no Christian book on New Age themes that does not include Yoga in its index of New Age alternatives. Again, the New Age holistic understanding of man as body-mind-soul contradicts Biblical revelation of man as spirit-soul-body [Genesis 2:7, 1 Thessalonians 5:23]. Yoga in Hinduism, like New Age, has no concept of God as Spirit, or man as endowed with an immortal spirit. To accept that as true would mean the demise of the Law of Karma and belief in reincarnation which are the mainstays of both. The Bible teaches us that It is appointed that human beings die once, and after this the judgement [Hebrews 9:27]. Francis Sunil Lobo Siemens Information Systems Limited Embedded Systems Group No-84, Keonics Electronics City, Hosur Road, Bangalore From: prabhu To: Lobo, Francissunil IN BLR SISL Cc: ronnieprabhu@yahoo.com ; arundsj@yahoo.com ; arun_ddsouza@yahoo.co.in ; archie_dsouza2001@grouply.com ; archie_dsouza2001@yahoo.com ; archie.dsouza@rediffmail.com ; speedygonsalves@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:30 AM Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:36 AM Subject: MANGALORE: MY 2007 "PROPHECY" REGARDING FR. RONNIE PRABHU FULFILLED IN 2009
Why higher authority is silent in these matter. For me it is difficult to digest YOGA in Fatima Retreat Centre, that also with seven religious nuns as participants. Francis Sunil Lobo From: name withheld To: prabhu Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: Re: VISIT TO MANGALORE Dear Micheal, I have been praying for your health. Was happy to hear from you. These talks are really required. You could have given our payer group but unfortunately it doesnt happen to be possible when you will be here. Fr Ronnie had his Art of living recently. What a shame and I know you had warned us. Probably you should meet the Bishop regarding this. I will get in touch with you kindly give me our contact number. God bless you SENIOR MINISTRY LEADER From: name withheld To: prabhu Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: Re: VISIT TO GOA AND MANGALORE Dear Michael, Happy to note that you will be in Mangalore on Sept. 8th when we celebrate the Nativity and Harvest Feast. We could all join together at our dining table in the afternoon or in the evening My opinion is that you should visit St Agnes College, the Bridgitines and the Bethany sisters to give a talk on new age. Looking forward to meeting you. From: richardmascarenhas To: prabhu Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: RE: MANGALORE: MY 2007 "PROPHECY" REGARDING FR. RONNIE PRABHU FULFILLED IN 2009 Thanks Prabhu for this article. Your prophecy has certainly come true. Those in authority are themselves involved, why would they hear and take corrective action. There is not only drought due to lack of rain, but a bigger drought in the Church not being able to abide by the Holy Spirit. Are we not heading for a big disaster in the next few years? OMAN From: valeriandalmaida To: prabhu Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: VISIT TO GOA AND MANGALORE Dear Mike, Praise God! I will be in Mangalore between 3rd and 12th September. I hope we can meet. Where are your programmes in Mangalore? Yes, I received all your mails and the one of Ronnie Prabhu. The whole Church in India needs sanctification. It reminds me the words of Jesus "He could not do any great miracles there because of their unbelief". If the church had fully focused on the word of God, most of India would have known Jesus. I lament. Valerian, ABU DHABI
I fully back whatever Prof Olga has written where she mentions that there is nothing against the faith in yoga. Also I also agree that yoga is learning one of the technique as we learn several techniques when we grow up. This I am writing because I have experienced it and I use yoga in my daily routine life. Yoga meditation is a great technique that gives lots of peace to the mind and takes us closer to God. To get Physical Health, Spiritual Health and for Mental Health I recommend people to study yoga from the qualified persons in the right manner to get real benefits. Ancy S DSouza, Paladka [OWNER/MODERATOR, MangaloreanCatholics]
Although I can do only 'shavasana' now, I too used to do some postures that are similar to yoga asanas or postures, but purely from the point of physical fitness. I think even Vatican does not approve of this in God's house. I am being frank and expressing my point of view. Maurice DMello
that has infiltrated the Church of God and make use of your talent and resources to fight against it, along with people of like mindedness. Yours in Christ Fr. Conrad Saldanha, MUMBAI From: sonia pinto To: prabhu Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: Re: MANGALORE: MY 2007 "PROPHECY" REGARDING FR. RONNIE PRABHUFULFILLED IN2009 Dear Michael, Praise God! How are you? Its been a long long time. We were home in Mangalore for the summer break and were shocked when the Retreat House in Mangalore was organising this Art of living retreat in its premises. I asked Fr. Santhosh Kamath about it and was wondering who Fr. Ronnie is because I used to go there for daily Holy Mass. I was told he isn't there most often!! Michael, what's your take on all of this? What's going on? Our Church is under attack, our leaders are under attack! Thanks again, Love and regards, Sonia, DUBAI