(English (Auto-Generated) ) Elon Musk On Sam Altman and ChatGPT - I Am The Reason OpenAI Exists (DownSub - Com)

open AI I mean you seem somewhat
frustrated with them you were one of the
big contributors early on the reason I
am the recent opening AI exists
um how much money did you give them
um so uh
I I I'm not sure the exact number but
it's some some number on the order of 50
million dollars uh so so the
man fate loves irony next level
um
so
I used to be close friends with Larry
Page and I would say at his house and
we'd have these conversations long into
long into the evening about Ai and I
would
I would be constantly urging him to be
careful about the danger of AI and um
and and he he just he was really not
concerned about the danger of AI and was
quite Cavalier about it
um
and um
and and at the time uh Google especially
after their acquisition of deepmind had
three quarters of the world's AI Talent
they had obviously a lot of computers
and a lot of money
um so it was a unipolar world four four

Ai and and to go to unipolar world but
but the the person who who controls that
does not or at least did not seem to be
concerned about AI safety that that's uh
that sounded like a real problem so
um
and then the final straw was uh Larry
calling me a speciesist uh for being
um pro-human Consciousness instead of
machine Consciousness and I'm like well
yes I guess I am I I am a speciesist and
and uh so right so you helped to the
creation of open AI you put as much as
50 million dollars more than helps it
wouldn't exist without it wouldn't exist
without you um I came up with a name uh
the name open AI refers to open source
um so it's the intent was what's the
okay so what was the opposite what's the
opposite of um
of Google which would be a an open
source non-profit because Google is
closed Source for-profit
um and that profit motivation can be
financially dangerous
um
so uh should you have gotten governance
for that money should you have gotten
some level of control perhaps in

retrospect
yeah I I I fully admit to being a huge
idiot here
um so
um
anyway so so open AI was like meant to
be open AI open as an open source uh it
was created as a 51c3
um and um but but so so part of it is
also in the beginning I thought look
this is this is probably a hopeless
Endeavor how could we possibly compete
with how could open AI possibly compete
with with Google deepmind I mean this
this seemed like an ant against an
elephant you know which is not a contest
um
and um
and I was also uh
I mean I I I I
was instrumental in recruiting the the
key uh scientists and Engineers most
specifically most notably Ilya soskire
um in fact um
ILY went back and forth several times
because he would say he's going to join
openai then Demus would convince him not
to then I I would convince him to do so
and then and this went back and forth
several times and ultimately he decided

to join open Ai and really uh Ilia
Jordan was the what was was the linchpin
full uh opening eye being ultimately
successful you're very disappointed in
what's happened there in terms of it
becoming a for-profit
in some way
I I do think that there's some
look it does seem weird that something
can be
um
a non-profit uh open source and somehow
transform itself into a for-profit
closed Source
um I mean this would be like like let's
say you funded an organization to save
the Amazon rainforest instead they
became a lumber company
and chopped down the forest and sold it
for money and you'd be therefore like
well wait a second that's the exact
opposite of what I gave the money for
yeah uh is that legal that doesn't seem
legal
and if it is and in general if it is
legal to start a company as a non-profit
and then take the IP and transfer it to
a for-profit that then makes tons of
money
um shouldn't everyone start shouldn't
that be the default
um
and and then I also think it's important
to understand the the like like when
push comes to shove let's say they do
create some some digital super
intelligence almost Godlike intelligence
well who's in control yeah and and what
is exactly is the relationship between
open Ai and Microsoft
um and I do worry that uh Microsoft
actually may be more in control than say
the leadership team at open AI realizes
um I mean Microsoft as part of the
Microsoft's investment they have uh
rights to all of the software all of the
model weights and everything necessary
to run the inference system
so they essentially have a great deal of
control
at any point Microsoft could cut off
open AI

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open AI I mean you seem somewhat

frustrated with them you were one of the

big contributors early on the reason I

am the recent opening AI exists

um how much money did you give them

I I I'm not sure the exact number but

it's some some number on the order of 50

million dollars uh so so the

man fate loves irony next level

I used to be close friends with Larry

Page and I would say at his house and

we'd have these conversations long into

long into the evening about Ai and I

I would be constantly urging him to be

careful about the danger of AI and um

and and he he just he was really not

concerned about the danger of AI and was

quite Cavalier about it

and and at the time uh Google especially

after their acquisition of deepmind had

three quarters of the world's AI Talent

they had obviously a lot of computers

and a lot of money

um so it was a unipolar world four four

but the the person who who controls that

does not or at least did not seem to be

concerned about AI safety that that's uh

that sounded like a real problem so

and then the final straw was uh Larry

calling me a speciesist uh for being

um pro-human Consciousness instead of

machine Consciousness and I'm like well

yes I guess I am I I am a speciesist and

and uh so right so you helped to the

creation of open AI you put as much as

50 million dollars more than helps it

wouldn't exist without it wouldn't exist

without you um I came up with a name uh

the name open AI refers to open source

um so it's the intent was what's the

okay so what was the opposite what's the

of Google which would be a an open

source non-profit because Google is

closed Source for-profit

um and that profit motivation can be

so uh should you have gotten governance

for that money should you have gotten

some level of control perhaps in

yeah I I I fully admit to being a huge

anyway so so open AI was like meant to

be open AI open as an open source uh it

was created as a 51c3

um and um but but so so part of it is

also in the beginning I thought look

this is this is probably a hopeless

Endeavor how could we possibly compete

with how could open AI possibly compete

with with Google deepmind I mean this

this seemed like an ant against an