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Sticerom
[edit][1]: Hmm. Industrial buildings? In English, we usually wouldn't call anything so artisanal "industrial". Also, I'm pretty certain the building was originally an old in (a han), though I'm not absolutely certain of this. - Jmabel | talk 04:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Continued on my user talk page. - Jmabel | talk 04:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Funiculars in Romania
[edit]Hallo, I´m not sure, if it is correct to categorize funiculars as railways. Rail transport and railways are not the same. --PetrS. 06:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC) Yes, it is better.--PetrS. 19:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Name of the lake
[edit]Do you know name of this lake or reservoir? Thank you, --Dezidor 18:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Trams in Oradea
[edit]Hello Dahn, I see that you see have enough time now :-), so I want to ask you, whether all trams in Oradea are part of OTL. Thank you, --Dezidor 21:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Mele22
[edit]Hi. Have you perchance seen the great photos of Bucharest submitted by User:Mele22? It's worth having a look at his contributions. I wanted to nominate one of them for featured picture, but I had trouble deciding which one - they're all excellent! I don't consider myself a good judge of photography, so perhaps you could weigh in and select one (or two, or three) that you feel meet all the more subtle featured image criteria (just in case they all don't meet them already). Thank you, Dahn 15:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- They are nice, but I'm not sure if any will be deemed technically good enough to make the cut. If you were going to nominate one, some likely candidates would be Image:Palace of Parliament.jpg, Image:The Metropolitan Church.jpg, and Image:Ion Heliade Radulescu.jpg: they are all well-composed (although in the last one the sky is pretty wiped out). - Jmabel | talk 18:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- Replied again on my talk page. - Jmabel | talk 21:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Antipa
[edit]Dahn, could I prevail upon you to look in on the situation of Image:Grigore Antipa.jpg? It could use a native Romanian speaker with a decent sense of intellectual property rights. - Jmabel | talk 18:32, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
I have started to categorize the churches within this category very strictly → one caregory for one church, if possible with the german and hungarian alternative names (btw, I am not familiar with hungarian, but as far as I have seen its simply, like name+i erődtemplom, is this correct?) La revedere --Kurpfalzbilder.de (talk) 23:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]Bună! Am adus imaginile caricaturilor de la acea adresă. Nu am păstrat textul de pe imagine, textul l-am adus în descrierea fişierului. De asemenea, nu am încercat să îmbunătăţesc claritatea/calitatea imaginilor, de obicei aduc imaginile aşa cum le găsesc. Sper că imaginile sunt preluate aşa cum le doreşti. Mulţumesc pentru aprecieri. Mvelam (talk) 15:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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Yours sincerely, BrightRaven (talk) 09:09, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Rosenthal
[edit]Va rog sa va abtineti de la modificari la Rosenthal pana voi termina articolul in ro.wiki. Sunt atatea ambiguitati contrafacute de istorici incat au fost preluate precum strutii inclusiv de sursele asa zise de incredere ca specialistii din muzee. Cand voi varsa toate contradictiile si incertitudinile, va dau voie sa va deslantuiti in stabilirea adevarului, bineinteles bazat pe surse. Eu nu pun nimic de la mine si incerc sa fiu impartial si sa suflu si in iaurt in ce citesc si scriu sau voi scrie. Cand voi termina articolul puteti sa-l si stergeti... eu voi fi satisfacut ca mi-am facut damblaua, articolul nu-mi va mai apartine. Asybaris01 (talk) 19:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- N-am înțeles ce vreți. E vorba de articolul în engleză, sau de imagini pe commons? Dacă prima: e bazat pe relatarea din Frunzetti, pe care înțeleg că-l aveți și dvs ca primă sursă. Dacă a doua: când două surse se contrazic, și au reputație egală, nu am de ce să prefer ce-ați hotărât dvs că e adevărul; în cazul Bălcescu, era vorba de Frunzetti (ziceți dvs, n-am verificat) și de o descriere mai recentă în ghidul unei expoziții -- nu doar că n-avem, nici eu, nici dvs, căderea să ne exprimăm care e „corectă”, dar a face ce recomandați încalcă regulile wikipedia, în principal cea privind „cercetarea originală” (o cunoașteți? eu zic că ați face bine s-o citiți). Nu în cele din urmă: modificarea titlului pozei era tocmai înspre un nume neutru, care să sugereze că nu se știe despre care Bălcescu e vorba-n portret -- îmi e greu să-mi dau seama ce anume vă vexează la modificarea asta. Vă mai atrag atenția și că existența unor/altor portrete făcute de CDR lui Bălcescu nu anulează posibilitatea ca și acela să fie tot Bălcescu. Dacă aveți de făcut un reproș inventarului muzeului, publicați dvs un articol în care vă expuneți argumentele, undeva într-o revistă de specialitate, și vă vom prelua textul ca sursă.
- Vreau să mai clarific că nu mă interesează ce editați dvs pe ro:wiki, nici nu iau ca model, cu atât mai puțin dacă dvs faceți cercetare originală. Implicarea mea pe ro:wiki este minimă, în mare parte tocmai din cauză că acolo li se permite utilizatorilor să scrie eseuri personale și să se certe cu sursele. Dahn (talk) 05:29, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Foarte rau ca nu va intereseaza ce se scrie si pe alte wikipedii. Va place sa credeti ca ce ganditi dv este ceea ce este corect a se expune cititorilor si atunci atacati cu cercetarea originala. Dupa cum vad ca v-ati prins, nu se stie cine este reprezentat in portret, daca N. Balcescu sau daca tot N. Balcescu. Cine sunteti dv sau un muzeograf oarecare sau vreun istoric cu reputatie care nu studiaza sursele si zice - asta e Nicolae Balcescu. Frunzetti are in galeria biografiei doua imagini: una cu zis a lui N. Balcescu, probabil fratele sau si una cu N. Balcescu. Nu stie nimeni care dintre ei este Nicolae Balcescu, desigur existand si posibilitatea caniciunul sa nu fie Nicolae Balcescu. Asta se expliciteaza in articolul biografic. Acolo se va aduce si ipoteza muzeului, ca este si el o sursa numita de incredere - ca institutie si nu a unui muzeograf sau chiar istoric de arta, ca si alte surse de incredere ce pot fi gasite. Cititorul trebuie lasat sa aleaga, nu dv, eu sau alt deontolog a lui Rosenthal. In loc sa adanciti asa numita cercetare in surse, dv atacati cu CO stand cu capul in nisip. Nu e corect. Asybaris01 (talk) 06:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Nu domnule, nu e vorba de ce gândesc eu, nici de ce mi se năzare mie sau dvs, e vorba despre politicile wikipedia; dacă nu le cunoașteți și nu le urmați, nu v-ați găsit bine mediul unde să vă exprimați -- încercați un ziar, o revistă etc.
- Cititorul este lăsat să aleagă, în varianta în care există două relatări. Vă atrag atenția și că, acum că citați Frunzetti, demonstrați și că ați mințit: iată că și Frunzetti menționează că portretul este presupus a fi al lui Nicolae Bălcescu, chiar dacă nu e de acord cu ea. Asta deși în modificarea descrierii ați declarat pompos că portretul nu îl reprezintă -- ați introdus o falsă certitudine, și o deducție a dvs. Și iată că mai departe muzeografii despre care vituperați nu greșesc, ci folosesc una din două descrieri posibile, și anume pe cea mai tradițională. Vă simplific: dacă două surse credibile spun lucruri contradictorii, le cităm pe amândouă și nu favorizăm niciuna. E politica wikipedia. Că dvs nu vă convine una din surse e treaba dvs.
- Acuma, pentru că puteți citi românește și poate și englezește, vă invit din nou să vă concentrați pe descrierile din modificarea mea la imaginea respectivă, și să-mi explicați ce anume nu vă convine, ce contrazice sursele. În ce privește modificarea de nume a fișierului, am propus „N. Bălcescu” deorece, din descrierea în română operată de dvs, la cum ați frazat, se deducea că Frunzetti nu contestă titlul „N. Bălcescu”, ci susținea că inițiala s-ar (putea) referi la alt membru al familiei. Propuneți dvs alt titlu, dacă nu vă convine ăsta, și voi susține modificarea.
- Repet că nu mă interesează ce faceți dvs pe ro:wiki, și-n niciun caz nu mă bazez pe cercetarea originală, a dvs sau a oricui alt wikipedist, pentru a modifica texte sau fișiere. Aceasta deoarece cunosc și respect regulile wikipedia, cele care-mi transmit clar că nu se poate așa ceva -- indiferent cât de permisivi sunt cu dvs la ro:wiki, din motive care-i privesc pe cei de acolo. Dahn (talk) 06:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Foarte rau ca nu va intereseaza ce se scrie si pe alte wikipedii. Va place sa credeti ca ce ganditi dv este ceea ce este corect a se expune cititorilor si atunci atacati cu cercetarea originala. Dupa cum vad ca v-ati prins, nu se stie cine este reprezentat in portret, daca N. Balcescu sau daca tot N. Balcescu. Cine sunteti dv sau un muzeograf oarecare sau vreun istoric cu reputatie care nu studiaza sursele si zice - asta e Nicolae Balcescu. Frunzetti are in galeria biografiei doua imagini: una cu zis a lui N. Balcescu, probabil fratele sau si una cu N. Balcescu. Nu stie nimeni care dintre ei este Nicolae Balcescu, desigur existand si posibilitatea caniciunul sa nu fie Nicolae Balcescu. Asta se expliciteaza in articolul biografic. Acolo se va aduce si ipoteza muzeului, ca este si el o sursa numita de incredere - ca institutie si nu a unui muzeograf sau chiar istoric de arta, ca si alte surse de incredere ce pot fi gasite. Cititorul trebuie lasat sa aleaga, nu dv, eu sau alt deontolog a lui Rosenthal. In loc sa adanciti asa numita cercetare in surse, dv atacati cu CO stand cu capul in nisip. Nu e corect. Asybaris01 (talk) 06:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Frunzetti menționează că portretul este presupus a fi al lui Nicolae Bălcescu, chiar dacă nu e de acord cu ea. - Presupus de cine? Nimeni nu stie. Asybaris01 (talk) 07:22, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Vedeti aici, cred ca de aici ati luat-o cu Brasovul. Ei sunt fermi convinsi ca e Nicolae Balcescu. Au adus informatiile uzuale si stiute din mistificarea comunista si recunosc la final cu sintagma cel putin „... Pe spatele pânzei, o ștampilă ovală cu marca unui fabricant de pânze de pictură parizian confirmă cel puţin localizarea iniţială a lucrării” - incertitudinea surselor. Clar - foarte clar ca nu au surse. De aceea nu trebuie luat ad litteram. Ma rog... nu ma mai contrez cu dv. Numai de bine. Asybaris01 (talk) 07:35, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Va multumesc ca ati inteles diferendul si ati corectat intr-un mod multumitor descrierea. Numai de bine. Asybaris01 (talk) 08:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- As avea totusi o remarca la descriere. Trebuie pus titlul in descriere asa cum l-a formulat Frunzetti. El nu i-a spus N. Balcescu, ci zis a lui N. Balcescu, probabil fratele său. Probabil dv v-ati gandit ca titlul pus de mine imi apartine. V-ati inselat. Va rog sa modificati asa cum spune sursa Frunzetti. El a adus in asemenea hal ambiguitatea informatiei, nu eu cu CO. Eu nu fac CO, sa va fie clar. Asybaris01 (talk) 09:21, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Sursa pe care chiar dvs ați citat-o precizează că în mod tradițional se presupune că e vorba de Bălcescu -- dacă această afirmați vagă apare-n Frunzetti, e deja suficient, nu-i cerem autorului să se explice. Dacă însă e vorba de speculat, putem presupune că era ceva presupus de toată lumea care avusese contact cu portretul. Vă recomand mai departe să citiți corolarul politicii wikipedia asupra cercetării originale, și anume: en:WP:TRUTH. Pe scurt: nu decidem noi că ignorăm sau demontăm afirmații din surse credibile, ci le redăm ca atare.
- Nu știu ce adaugă informația că Brașov susține că e Nicolae B. -- această informație apărea chiar lângpă sursa pozei, da. Dvs o considerați eronată, forțând o supoziție a lui Frunzetti să spună ce nu spune. Poate că aveți și dreptate, în abstract, dar din nou, asta nu contează; nu pe wikipedia. Și dacă m-ați convinge pe mine că e 100% altcineva decât Nicolae B., tot nu aș edita wikipedia în baza convingerii ăsteia, deoarece ar fi deplasat și incorect față de cititorii noștri.
- Cât privește titlul, nu am de ce să favorizez descrierea din Frunzetti, dar putem merge pe o variantă de genul „Presumed portrait of Nicolae Bălcescu” sau „Portrait of a Bălcescu family member”. Acestea v-ar satisface? Dahn (talk) 18:02, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- As avea totusi o remarca la descriere. Trebuie pus titlul in descriere asa cum l-a formulat Frunzetti. El nu i-a spus N. Balcescu, ci zis a lui N. Balcescu, probabil fratele său. Probabil dv v-ati gandit ca titlul pus de mine imi apartine. V-ati inselat. Va rog sa modificati asa cum spune sursa Frunzetti. El a adus in asemenea hal ambiguitatea informatiei, nu eu cu CO. Eu nu fac CO, sa va fie clar. Asybaris01 (talk) 09:21, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Comentarii la fotografii
[edit]Am văzut că atunci când ați adus la Commons această fotografie ați descris-o astfel: Jewish Romanian deportees, murdered by their Romanian escorts in Transnistria; one of several massacres carried out during the "Holocaust by bullets" phase of extermination behind the Eastern Front. This particular crime was perpetrated "between Brizula (Bârzula, Byrzula) and Grozdovca", that is just outside Kotovsk, in modern Ukraine. În opinia mea, descrierea este incorectă, deoarece în cartea lui M. Carp, la p. 250, planșa X, sub fotografia respectivă autorul a scris: După trecerea unui convoi, între Bîrzula și Grozdovca. În aceste condiții, comentariul dvs. reprezintă cercetare originală și nu are ce căuta în descriere. 188.26.11.77 19:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Care este titlul și tema cărții, stimate domn? Ce scrie pe paginile alea, de o parte și de alta a pozei? Sau e vreun motiv special pentru care trebuie să ne prefacem că nu știm despre ce e vorba în poză, și să nu le prezentăm acest aspect cititorilor noștri, doar pentru că în carte, unde contextul e prezentat pe sute de pagini, legenda poezi este prezentată succint? Dahn (talk) 18:27, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Stimate domn, încercați să vă axați pe subiectul pentru care v-am contactat. Dvs. nu aveți niciun drept să dați interpretări acelei fotografii. Dacă ați pus acea fotografie la Commons sunteți obligat să menționați strict textul din carte așa cum este la p. 250. Dacă în textul cărții rezultă ce spuneți dvs. atunci faceți mențiunile corespunzătoare în textul articolului, iar acolo va trebui să menționați sursa sau sursele pe care vă bazați. E o chestie de nuanță, dar este forma corectă, nu ce ați făcut dvs. 188.26.11.77 10:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Nu am de ce să mă axez pe nimic din ce aveți voi aroganța să-mi cereți să mă axez. Descrierea pozei este corectă, nu există vreo obligație de a ne limita la descrierea succintă de pe acea pagină, și cartea este explicit despre crimele armatei române. Sofistica asta poate fi cântată la alte mese. Dacă ai în continuare o problemă cu descrierea pozei, ești invitat s-o ridici cu o „request for comments” sau alt procedură permisă de wikipedia. Vezi ce răspuns primești. De abia așteaptă să te ia în primire cei care au creat mai demult un tag care le cerea utilizatorilor wikipedia să modifice legendele fotografiilor făcute de naziști, și păstrate de Bundesarchiv cu legenda originală, în cazul în care acea legendă ar fi avut conțuinut ideologic sau neclarități. În plus, dacă nu ai remarcat, descrierea succintă oferită de Carp apare oricum în titlul fișierului, iar secțiunea pentru descrierei este tocmai penturu a da cât mai mult context pozei, indiferent de titlu -- de exemplu, secțiunea Descriere a unui tablou include amănunte despre dimensiunile și localizarea originalului, nu doar titlul. Dahn (talk) 19:54, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Te invit de asemenea să citești explicațiile din „Ce NU este cercetare originală”. Dahn (talk) 20:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Stimate domn, încercați să vă axați pe subiectul pentru care v-am contactat. Dvs. nu aveți niciun drept să dați interpretări acelei fotografii. Dacă ați pus acea fotografie la Commons sunteți obligat să menționați strict textul din carte așa cum este la p. 250. Dacă în textul cărții rezultă ce spuneți dvs. atunci faceți mențiunile corespunzătoare în textul articolului, iar acolo va trebui să menționați sursa sau sursele pe care vă bazați. E o chestie de nuanță, dar este forma corectă, nu ce ați făcut dvs. 188.26.11.77 10:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- M-am uitat la articolul Mihai Antonescu si nu apare niciun Dahn acolo. In schimb e Alex F. Normal, acum imi dau seama ca prin faptul ca nu a negat ca el ar fi introdus imaginea la Mihai Antonescu, inseamna ca Alex F. = Dahn. Foarte tare... d-le Dahn. Clone clone peste tot. Bine ca stiu cu cine am de a face. Acum inteleg atacurile lui de mai sus la CO pe care cica le proliferez eu pe ro.wiki. Nu e de mirare ce am descoperit acum. Asybaris01 (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- N-m niciun fel de legătură cu contul respectiv, și presupun că se poate verifica asta oricând, dacă e necesar dintr-un motiv oarecare -- desigur, nu din acuzații tâmpite emise de un cutărescu. Am mai fost de multe ori acuzat c-aș fi ăla sau altul, și de fiecare dată s-a demonstrat că nu sunt, și că nu am avut și nu am decât un singur cont (incluzând aici toate variantele create automat, sub același nume, pe mai multe variante de wikipedia, plus commons). Și întâmplător, pentru cultura ta generală, chiar dacă acel cont ar fi al tot al meu, asta în sine nu ar încălca nicio regulă a wikipediei, decât în situațiile în care m-aș folosi de un alt cont pentru a face reverturi sau vote-stacking. Poate ai ști asta dacă ai fi citit măcar o dată de când ești pe wikipedia vreuna din regulile acestui proiect.
- Dar da, eu am încărcat poza pe Commons, și nu am atașat-o în niciun articol de pe nicio variantă a wikipediei, pur și simplu pentru că nu m-a interesat acest aspect; este însă evident că oricine poate găsi poza, că de-aia e pe Commons, stimate cetățean. Categoric, ca uploader al pozei nu pot decât să încurajez wikipediștii care sunt interesați de realitatea istorică să publice acest document, care este în mod evident autentic și dintr-o sursă de maximă importanță. Acestea fiind spuse, te rog să te ejectezi de pe pagina mea și să-ți iei și ciracul cu tine, pentru că n-am de ce să asist la exhibițiile voastre bolovănoase. Dahn (talk) 19:54, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Stim... cum e cu mâța-n sac. Nu deveniti violent la scris, ca nu v-am jignit cu nimic si ciracul nu-I al meu. Asybaris01 (talk) 20:18, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Crezi ce vrei. Când vii aici să lansezi acuzații, pe lângă că-mi faci stalking, se cheamă că mă jignești -- repet, dacă vrei să mă verifici pentru orice acuzație îți trece prin minte, chiar și din alea complet fenateziste și paranoide, te invit să pui adminsitratorii să-mi verifice IP-urile. Nu știu cine e Alex F., nu l-am întâlnit decât razant, și nici nu edităm decât pe vag aceleași subiecte. În plus, deșteptule, am 100 de mii de edituri pe wikipedia în engleză, și un cont al meu pe aia în română: când visezi matale că aș mai fi putut să-mi fac și cont alternativ pe wikipedia în română, să editez alte articole acolo, și mai ales să fac asta ca să-ntrețin o dispută cu anonimul de matale? N-o fi mai simplu că atât eu, cât și alți utilizatori, ne intersectăm cu incompetența lui matale, iar apoi matale începi să vezi conexiuni între oamenii care-ți confruntă respectiva, și prolifica, incompetență?
- Până și raționamentul pe care-ți construiești asumpția e delirant. Adică eu sunt cu certitudine Alex F. fiindcă NU am niciun edit la un articol în care apare poza asta. Dahn (talk) 20:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Stim... cum e cu mâța-n sac. Nu deveniti violent la scris, ca nu v-am jignit cu nimic si ciracul nu-I al meu. Asybaris01 (talk) 20:18, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Stimate domn, cred că ar trebui să vă cenzurați termenii pe care-i folosiți. Nu v-am jignit și nu înțeleg de ce folosiți acest stil violent de a dialoga. Revenind la subiect, este logic, este de bun simț, ca fotografia adăugată la Commons să fie descrisă exact cum este în carte. Dacă ar fi cum pretindeți dvs., ar trebui ca la descrierea detaliată a fotografiei să puneți și referințele. Dar situația asta devine hilară și, ca s-o evitați, soluția de bun simț este ca textul respectiv să fie în corpul articolului. Iar acolo se pot pune o mulțime de referințe. Nu vă rămâne decât să le alegeți pe cele potrivite. Nu vă împiedică nimeni, absolut nimeni. De fapt, de ce vă feriți ca descrierea să fie în articol? Vă lipsesc referințele? Hai, fiți sincer!188.26.11.77 23:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Încalcă descrierea vreo politică a wikipediei? Nu, atâta timp cât am demonstrat clar că prevederile privind cercetarea originală nu privesc adăugarea de elemente care să specifice contextul. Acel context apare specificat clar în aceeași carte, chiar dacă descrierea de imediat sub poză, în carte, este redusă la câteva cuvinte -- cum e orice descriere, în mai orice carte. În tocmai cartea lui Carp este specificat clar că e vorba de un convoi de evrei uciși de armata română, chiar dacă informația nu apare repatată la fiecare ilustrație (ar fi redundant acolo). Pe pagina 259 din carte, Carp arată clar despre ce convoi era vorba, indiferent câte scormneli și abureli și sofisme se pot concepe pentru a ascunde acest lucru.
- În plus, repet informația simplă și inteligibilă că titlul fotografiei este redat verbatim în titlul fișierului, deci acest concern trolling că „vai, nu respectăm ce zice autorul” e cu atât mai aburitor.
- Dacă dumneata crezi că am încălcat vreo regulă wikipedia, te invit din nou să faci Request for comment sau ce crezi dumneata că se impune. Eu am încheiat discuția pe tema asta. Dahn (talk) 06:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Am prezentat argumentele pe pagina de discuție a fotografiei respective. Afirmația aia din carte nu este susținută prin nimic. Nicio sursă documentară, nici măcar o mărturie cum mai folosește câteodată. În acest caz, absolut nimic. Despre cazul respectiv nu este nicio altă descriere nicăieri. În Raportul final, nimic. În Chestiunea evreiască ... a lui Trașcă, nimic. Despre ce vorbim? Despre o sursă îndoielnică, nu despre o sursă de încredere. Vă spune ceva termenul din urmă? Deci, cine umblă cu aburelile? Asta așa, ca să vă citez termenul... 188.26.11.77 09:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Ha, ha, nu. Pe lângă că Matatias Carp este sursă de încredere pentru istorici, inclusiv în ziua de azi (da, este citată în Raportul final, de exemplu -- nu însă cu acel nivel de detaliu, pentru că ar fi redundant: detaliile apar deja în Carp), iată cum ajungem și la mania negațioanistă: dacă nu zice că românii n-au comis masacre, nu-i de încredere. Și cum e, stimate: e de încredere pentru poză, dar nu și pentru descrierea ai? Hai, vezi-ți de drum, nu-mi mai consuma timpul aiurea. Dahn (talk) 09:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Mai ești și mincinos, btw: Raportul Final memnționează clar decimarea evreilor porniți în marș de la Vertujeni -- ediția în engleză de la Polirom, 2004, pe pagina 139, care face cross-referencing cu rapoartele furnizate de jandarmerioe și de instanțele de anchetă, publicate de Ancel. Dahn (talk) 09:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Vorbiți civilizat, nu mă faceți pe mine mincinos. Pot să omit ceva, admit asta, dar nu veniți cu acuzații din astea obraznice și absurde. Și nu deviați de la subiect. Nu m-am referit la decimarea evreilor porniți în marș către Vertujeni (apropo, la p. 139 nu este nicio mențiune cu privire la Vertujeni), ci la fotografia care face referire la convoiul între Bîrzula și Grozdovca. Poate nu am fost înțeles bine, dar mă refeream la afirmația despre subofițerul Tarca. Sper că acum este mult mai clar. 188.26.11.77 10:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Păi care-i alternativa, dacă nu mințeai? Să-nțeleg că matale susții că masacrarea evreilor a avut loc (fiind confirmată-n mai multe surse), dar „ai îndoieli” că ar fi fost ordonată de un anume Tarca și că ar fi ilustrată de poza respectivă? Chiar și dacă te-aș crede cu acest concern trolling: publică matale un articol pe tema asta într-o revistă de specialitate, și te vom folosi ca sursă în explicația imaginii, unde vom prciza cum că un Cutărescu Cutare (desigur, sursă de reputație mult peste a lui Matatias Carp) și-a exprimat dubii. Până atunci, funcționează politicile wikipedia, pe care ți le-am citat: Carp e sursa citată, explicația lui Carp ester adevărul de lucru până la proba contrarie, pe care ești invitat s-o publici. Poate sofismele astea or merge pe la wikipedia-n română, unde acumn niște ani se publicau articole de o nesimțire crasă despre „holocaustul evreilor contra românilor”, dar aici nu țin. Mai ai ceva de adăugat? Dahn (talk) 10:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Pagina 139 în ediția în limba engleză (am precizat în mod repetat), și sub grafia Vertujeni (arhaică, fără i, la fel ca-n Carp): „The deportations commenced September 16, with the Jews in the Vertujeni camp and concluded by the end of December. Palade and his subordinates relayed the verbal order concerning the assassination and plundering. The commander of the 60th Police Company, who supervised the deportation to Atachi, requested a written order. Capt. Titus Popescu replied: 'Regarding the Jewish matter we do not work with written documents.'" (Poate ultima parte a citatului îți arată și de ce nu neste menționat nimic despre asta în Trașcă, unde sutn doar documentele armatei, publicate fără comentarii.) Dahn (talk) 10:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- În primul rând, v-aș ruga să folosiți formula de politețe pe care o folosesc și eu cu dvs. Este o formă de respect care crează bazele unei discuții civilizate. În al doilea rând, am spus, pot omite ceva, dar nu c-aș fi mințit.
- Sunt nevoit să repet ce am spus și anterior. Nu rezultă de nicăieri că acei morți sunt împușcați. Nu rezultă că au fost împușcați de subofițerul Tarca. Nu rezultă nici măcar că au fost găsiți pe drumul dintre Bîrzula și Grozdovca. Și nu mai insistați cu Vertujeni pentru că nu are legătură cu cazul de față. Nu știm cine a făcut fotografia. A făcut-o Carp? Dacă da, când a făcut-o? A primit fotografia de la cineva? Dacă da, de unde știe el că reprezintă ce spuneți dvs? Nu dă niciun detaliu.
- Scuzați-mă, trebuie făcută o evaluare la rece, nu una emoțională. 188.26.11.77 10:54, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Nu avem de făcut nicio evaluare a textului din Carp, eu și cu matale -- poți înțelege că asta ar contrazice politicle wikipedia? sigur că poți, dar te-ai gândit că ce bine ar fi să-mi irosești mie timpul aiurea, doar--doar iese scamatoria de-ncerci s-o performezi. Mai departe: poate nu înțelegi engleza, dar textul se referă explicit la uciderea celor puși să meargă în convoi de la Vertujeni către Transnistria. Mai departe pe paginile 139 și 140 sunt detaliate cazuri de exterminare pe drum, și este menționată inclusiv împușcarea fetelor evreice care se opuneau violului. Nu există scenariu pe care să-l poți concepe unde o ilustrație a acestor atrocități în carte ar ilustra altceva.
- Am răspuns la tot ce era de răspuns. Dacă mai postezi ceva pe pagina asta, va fi șters; dacă insiști să repostezi, voi obține ca pagina să protejată ca să n-o mai poți edita. Dacă ai impresia că greșesc, te invit a treia și ultima oară să faci request for comment penttu poză, și te asigur că voi comenta și eu acolo, citând toate policile wikipedia pe care le încaleci. Pe mine nu mă convingi cu tumbe și sofisitici, dacă ai senzația că-ți merge prin procedura oficială, te invit să verifici. Gata, mi-am pierdurt suficient timp cu matale. Dahn (talk) 11:07, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Vorbiți civilizat, nu mă faceți pe mine mincinos. Pot să omit ceva, admit asta, dar nu veniți cu acuzații din astea obraznice și absurde. Și nu deviați de la subiect. Nu m-am referit la decimarea evreilor porniți în marș către Vertujeni (apropo, la p. 139 nu este nicio mențiune cu privire la Vertujeni), ci la fotografia care face referire la convoiul între Bîrzula și Grozdovca. Poate nu am fost înțeles bine, dar mă refeream la afirmația despre subofițerul Tarca. Sper că acum este mult mai clar. 188.26.11.77 10:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Am prezentat argumentele pe pagina de discuție a fotografiei respective. Afirmația aia din carte nu este susținută prin nimic. Nicio sursă documentară, nici măcar o mărturie cum mai folosește câteodată. În acest caz, absolut nimic. Despre cazul respectiv nu este nicio altă descriere nicăieri. În Raportul final, nimic. În Chestiunea evreiască ... a lui Trașcă, nimic. Despre ce vorbim? Despre o sursă îndoielnică, nu despre o sursă de încredere. Vă spune ceva termenul din urmă? Deci, cine umblă cu aburelile? Asta așa, ca să vă citez termenul... 188.26.11.77 09:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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Did you made all these logos yourself? Otherwise, what's the source? Regards,--Yann (talk) 06:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, @Yann: I did make the logos myself, and they goddamn all specify the source (meaning: the image I used as a model for the svgs), if you bother to read the descriptions -- in absolutely every case, I specified the source. I have removed the tags because they equate with a speedy deletion, and courtesy should dictate that I should not have to defend clumps of uploaded material at once just because you decided to. And especially when you are confused: the claim about those logos was never that I didn't make them myself, but that the source images may be copyrighted -- something which is incidentally also bogus, since all the logos refer to organizations which have been defunct for over 50 years, which is one of the several reasons why they would not be under copyright. This is also something you can clearly read in the additional tags. Dahn (talk) 06:59, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, Sorry?! But where is the Order of Christ Cross in this image? It represents the 5 plates of Portugal --JotaCartas (talk) 23:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- @JotaCartas: Hi. The plates are on the shield, not on the flag. For the (partly obscured) Cross, look to the flag on the left. Dahn (talk) 05:48, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Dahn: , Hi, right, now I see it, best regards --JotaCartas (talk) 20:13, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, over on en:Talk:Dimitrie Stelaru you mention that File:Dimitrie Stelaru, România Literară February 1965.png "has a mistaken title that I didn't yet manage to correct -- I uploaded it myself, and wrongly typed 1965 instead of 1969". It looks like you replaced some of the instances of 1965 with 1969, but left 2 (|date=1965-02
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- Thank you, will do! Dahn (talk) 10:20, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, just checking back on this - looks like you've had the file moved and fixed the category, but the date field still shows as "February 1965". Pokechu22 (talk) 21:22, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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May I ask, what party is France? 17:22, 21 July 2023 (UTC) ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 17:22, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ValenciaThunderbolt: This one. Dahn (talk) 18:19, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant to say Spain. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 18:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ValenciaThunderbolt: this one. I have some questions regarding the list, but I'll save them for when you're done editing it. Dahn (talk) 15:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I don't mind if you question now. After all, the table is only a rough, as no-one seemed to add it. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 15:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ValenciaThunderbolt: Well, it seems like only random parties were included, with no chronological differentiation (for instance, Hungary never sent IAB representatives, though it did have IPU ones); the Bavarian party is only marked on the map for informative purposes, as it was never affiliated with the IAB (just generated the effort to establish it); I also have doubts about the countries and flags used for representation there -- there was no Slovenia, no Croatia etc. (you could say you have adapted these to the modern equivalents, but then we get Czechoslovakia); the name used for the Finnish party is one exclusively employed by its modern incarnation, and differs from the piped one we use in the prose section. I would also like to see the list moved as the final section, after the political symbolism part, as it breaks the body of prose with a list, when the list would fit nicely at the bottom (which would also be useful for those who are directly searching for it). Dahn (talk) 16:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- "National party in national language" also sounds very redundant. A simple "Native name" will do, methinks. Dahn (talk) 16:32, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I don't mind if you question now. After all, the table is only a rough, as no-one seemed to add it. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 15:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ValenciaThunderbolt: this one. I have some questions regarding the list, but I'll save them for when you're done editing it. Dahn (talk) 15:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant to say Spain. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 18:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Romanian Fascio swastika
[edit]Heyo, so some of the files you've uploaded with regards to the Romanian Fascio have a swastika symbol labeled as their emblem, when the page you sourced says it belongs to the Rumänische Volksdeutsche Verein, with the FNR having a completely different symbol. I put in a rename request on the main file of the swastika itself but you have the other file with the Romanian fascist symbols you may wanna take a look at. NorthTension (talk) 01:12, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- You are obviously right. I had saved the picture for the SVG, and mislabeled it in the save, then got back to it after a while without revisiting the page. Dahn (talk) 04:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Gotcha, no worries 👌
- I dunno if theres a way for you to comment on the file rename request but you could also send one in too and since youre the uploader they'd almost invariably fix it immediately. NorthTension (talk) 17:47, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Munțiile se aflau la Fortul 13 Jilava, așa că nu văd motivul pentru care ați dat revert la această modificare. Accipiter Gentilis Q. (talk) 22:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello Dahn. I see that made this União Nacional logo. However, you added a blue shade inside the shield. The original logo, as shown on the sources [1] [2,page5], do not have this blue shade. Could you please remove the shade to have a clean logo? Best regards. Human Transistor (talk) 11:13, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Human Transistor: Hi! I can't recall which source image had the shaded version, but, upon review, it seems you are right to note that this was a much more widespread color scheme. updated accordingly, and thank you for the heads-up. Dahn (talk) 12:29, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks!! Human Transistor (talk) 12:50, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
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I see you noticed someone broke that template. Isn't that stupid? Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello, thank you for your article research and files about International Agriarian Bureau, its very good. If you are Romanian speaker, I would like to ask you to do some research. If you have access to any library sources of Romanian history as you got for International Agrarian Bureau, could you please search any sources about international affiliation of Partidul Radical-Țărănesc (1933–1938). We know that International Entente of Radical and Similar Democratic Parties was active in Romania, but it is unsure if member of the organization was Partidul National Liberal or Partidul Radical-Țărănesc, or both. Thank you. ThecentreCZ (talk) 19:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Many thanks, ThecentreCZ. It is offhand likely that they belonged to no such organization (though I'm sure I once read about the old-regime PNL belonging to some such organization), since it was extremely exotic for Romanian parties to join international bodies (excepting the exceptions, of course), and since the PRȚ/PȚR in particular was makeshift construction to benefit our infamous king Carol II. I have performed a quick search in the archives I can access, but the terms which would identify such affiliations are awfully generic, and I get a lot of false positives. If I do find something at some point, I will let you know. Dahn (talk) 22:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I finally founded it in Turkish library. PNL was not member, the Romanian member was National Pesants' Party that joined this International Entente of Radical and Similar Democratic Parties in 1929. That means National Peasants' Party was member of International Agrarian Bureau in 1927–1929. https://www.academia.edu/5087635/CHPnin_Avrupan%C4%B1n_Radikal_ve_Demokrat_Partileri_ile_%C4%B0li%C5%9Fkileri_1926_1935_ ThecentreCZ (talk) 01:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @ThecentreCZ: Sorry, but that is a bit absurd. As you can see in the IAB article: you have sources there verifying that the PNȚ sent delegates to the IAB in October 1930, and that in 1931 (and 1936) it used the agrarian green, specifically indicated as the IAB color, on its party flags. It could be that it was a member of both internationals (not unheard of, but amazingly not mentioned in any other source). Dahn (talk) 05:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK it was member of both organizations. As Lithuanian Popular Peasants' Union also cooperated with both ones. Besides this International Journal of History Radical Entente was not mapped until recently when i started wiki article. ThecentreCZ (talk) 15:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @ThecentreCZ: Sorry, but that is a bit absurd. As you can see in the IAB article: you have sources there verifying that the PNȚ sent delegates to the IAB in October 1930, and that in 1931 (and 1936) it used the agrarian green, specifically indicated as the IAB color, on its party flags. It could be that it was a member of both internationals (not unheard of, but amazingly not mentioned in any other source). Dahn (talk) 05:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I finally founded it in Turkish library. PNL was not member, the Romanian member was National Pesants' Party that joined this International Entente of Radical and Similar Democratic Parties in 1929. That means National Peasants' Party was member of International Agrarian Bureau in 1927–1929. https://www.academia.edu/5087635/CHPnin_Avrupan%C4%B1n_Radikal_ve_Demokrat_Partileri_ile_%C4%B0li%C5%9Fkileri_1926_1935_ ThecentreCZ (talk) 01:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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