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Deathstroke

Wintergreen not being referred to by his alias on-screen is irrelevant. There are several characters in the Arrowverse that never verbally use their alias. Even in shows like Agents of SHIELD and Gotham, characters such as Mockingbird and Tigress never use their alias on the show (despite the being confirmed by the writers and marketing).

Wintergreen is the original Deathstroke in Arrow. Both the CW website, concept art, and the end credits of the show itself tell us that. There's no reason to dance around it just because it's not like the comic. DarkKnight2149 16:13, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

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Do you have a source for the Sameer Park name?

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Are you referring to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Time Trapper? The best place to voice your opinion is there, not at my talk page. Ps. Removing an AfD notice from a page is wrong; please don't do so again, repeated violations can lead to a block. This is just a friendly policy note. If you disagree with a deletion, say so in the discussion instead. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:21, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

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wHAT RELAIBLE was the bio in his TV media section JosephWC (talk) 01:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. What I do know is that you need to cite reliable secondary sources--and that edit summaries like this and this, and talk page posts like this aren't really productive. Drmies (talk) 13:51, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

There were already reliable sources that you just cut the feet under. All that stuff you trimmed was well and rightly sourced. I listed the episode of Titans as a source, and you revoked it. JosephWC (talk) 18:40, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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Despite your protests, not much you've added to Sal Maroni qualifies as a reliable source. User-generated websites like fandom wikis and primary sources like the comic itself don't meet the standard for significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. I have no strong objection to your insertion of such wikis as external links or primary documents as support. However, using such sources to speak in Wikipedia's voice is entirely inappropriate. Note the talk page discussion and please contribute to that. If you continue to ignore the discussion and edit live pagespace in a disruptive way, someone will block you, perhaps myself. BusterD (talk) 19:30, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

k. Do what you gotta go. Reliable sources like episodes listed aren't' reliable? screw that. Not mad at you. JosephWC (talk) 22:18, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for engaging. I can't help but think there ARE sources available that meet the RS standard. Might be a website or a reference work. I'm grateful for the good faith demonstrated in your response. Call on me if I can be helpful, even in this dispute. BusterD (talk) 22:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

The Clock King

Hey Man,

What's your source for the DC Rebirth Clock King being Billy Tockman from New 52? I totally believe that they called him William Tockman, maybe on the boat with Nightwing, but unless it's specifically the New 52 one I don't know if it should be called Billy. Most notably, he has different glasses instead of sunglasses, and idk, his look is just that bit different for me to assume it's in the same continuity. They also probably didn't say anything about him being a former engineer in New 52, although this can naturally be excused with timeline tampering. Very interested in seeing if they added confirmation.

Thanks, Klayman55 (talk) 03:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Klayman55

I'm not up to date on this character, i assume it might be the same but not sure. Either way, if it's the same character and they acknowledge it being Tockman, then it's the same. If not, different. JosephWC (talk) 19:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Then why'd you edit it back in August? I'll admit, it's currently a bit confusing as we have separate sections for "Willaim Tockman" and "Billy" (the New 52 version), but that might change. Klayman55 (talk) 04:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I edit alotta stuff, dude I forgot about the multiple Clock Kings. Looking back at the sites I use, its TOCKMAN. JosephWC (talk) 05:12, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

https://comicnewbies.com/2018/06/23/green-arrow-vs-the-clock-king-rebirth/

Basically, confirms its possibly the same as he's still in Seattle/Star City. JosephWC (talk) 05:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Oh okay, thanks for replying. That's just some random guy's tag though, he surely meant to tag Clock King in general, so I'm going to keep it as is until DC confirms it. Klayman55 (talk) 16:25, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Klayman55

Sure. No problem, they fuss around with characters all the time. No pun JosephWC (talk) 23:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

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Hi. Please do not italicize names of storylines, as you did here. On Wikipedia, names long-form works (books, movies, TV shows, comics) are italicized, while shorter components of those works (chapters, stories) are quoted. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 21:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

ok no problem JosephWC (talk) 23:46, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

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Do you understand that that was a joke? RLM is meant to be funny. They make silly statements all the time. People aren't supposed to take everything they say literally. Zagalejo (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

I get it, relax. It's a joke JosephWC (talk) 15:57, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Re: Characters (in general)

Please enlighten me. Why do you add plot information to character pages, such as the Ghost Riders. My understanding is that we're not supposed to list plot information in the "In other media" sections in the first place since it's supposed to be listed somewhere else. Based on what happened to pages like Thanos or the Scarlet Witch, we're only to supposed to list information on why certain media depictions of a character are different from their comic book original and not every episode appearance they made, no matter how minor or unimportant to Wikipedia it is. In other words, I don't want what happened to Professor Pyg, who got his "In other media" section deleted outright, to happen anywhere else, but you are making things difficult. At the very least, your edits don't seem to have sourcing behind them nor a professional tone in some cases, and I'm not the only editor willing to undo edits based on the former alone. I'm not trying to be mean, but if you could just help me understand why you disagree with my attempts to reduce the bloat in "In other media" sections before admins delete the whole section outright, maybe I'll lighten up. Blazewing16 (talk) 04:52, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Pyg's other media section is detailed, what are you talking about his section being deleted "outright"?? My notion is to give some details of the plot, if you can help me detail em professionally, sure. I wanna work on this, and i'll take advice as long as there's something, even brief like i posted JosephWC (talk) 23:56, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

JosephWC, we're not done here--you removed it without addressing the very valid points that Blazewing16 made. Adding plot in character lists turns all these articles into cruft, and adding unverified "In other media" is one of the many things that's wrong with so many articles. We're an encyclopedia. In addition, you are going to have to actually address concerns from other editors; simply deleting those comments and continuing as if nothing happened is the contrary of what a collaborative project requires. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 23:55, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

I Heard you the first time JosephWC (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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THEN HELP ME make the details fit your "standards", help me out here. I wanna add details, not SUBTRACT. I list you guys goddamn episodes, and you delete em. What other sources DO YOU WANT??? Help me! JosephWC (talk) 23:58, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Re: Killer Croc

We don't need to list every episode that a character appeared in, especially if nothing notable happens. One episode (that includes multi-parters) is fine, but two or more is unnecessary unless they are especially notable AND can be reliably sourced per WP:CITE and WP:SOURCE. Blazewing16 (talk) 15:19, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

What's the harm? Listing episodes with sites that confirm said episodes isn't gonna help with you and your lot. JosephWC (talk) 19:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

JosephWC, first of all your rudeness is HIGHLY unnecessary, like your episode listings. Rudeness won't get you anywhere. Second of all, we do NOT need laundry lists cluttering up Wikipedia. Even with sourcing, we cannot just list every single episode that a character has appeared in because it would just get excessive. For example, we can't list every single episode that Alice from Batwoman has appeared in because she's a main character and thus appears in a majority of the episodes, which would create the most bloated entry in her "In other media" section. You cannot just add things for the sake of adding things. Only the most important material is allowed. Blazewing16 (talk) 02:50, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Stark difference BETWEEN A SERIES REGULAR and someone like Croc in BTAS. How about add material like his history with Bullock in his debut or Baby Doll in TNBA? I'm fucking frustrated sorry. JosephWC (talk) 03:00, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

It's fine. I was angry too because I just woke up. My non-Wikipedia life is a mess right now. Also, bad example, I know. Anyway, a brief overview should suffice. We don't need to list the episodes, just the important details from the most notable ones. Just give me some time and I'll attempt to come up with an overview for Croc's appearances. Blazewing16 (talk) 03:40, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

completely understandable. JosephWC (talk) 05:22, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Italics

Please read MOS:ITALIC before you go italicizing the wrong things again. Franchise names are NOT supposed to be italicized. In fact, it would behoove you to read the WP:MOS before you ruin other Wikipedia pages again based on what I've seen in this talk page alone. OilSlick96 (talk) 13:31, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Re: Firefly

First of all, cursing is HIGHLY unnecessary. If you have disagreements with editors, be civil and talk to them about it. Don't be a WP:DIVA and curse out people for the sake of cursing. Second, where is your reasoning behind the changes made to the Firefly page? I explained (poorly, I'll admit) in my edit summary that the alternate versions of Firefly involved originated in media that have more to do with comics-inspired media, not the comics themselves. Everywhere I go, Smallville Season 11 and the Batman: The Brave and the Bold animated series tie-in comics are ALWAYS in the "In other media" section. As for the DCEU tie-in comic; yes, the DCEU is based on DC Comics. BUT, it's still not the comics themselves. The tie-in comic belongs to the DCEU, which itself belongs in the "In other media" section. Next time, just provide a good reason for your edits and stop getting so violent towards other people. Blazewing16 (talk) 04:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I know what a diva is, thank you. It's always been OTHER VERSIONS since the beginning of this page, feels like some of you guys like the change for the sake of it, but ok. JosephWC (talk) 04:54, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Blazewing is too nice to jerks like you. Ignoring the rules, your own mistakes, and people pointing out your flaws? That'll really get you far in life. Also, I've seen what was happening in the Firefly page and since you don't WANT to understand the rules because you're so much better than them, I'll try my best to explain this in such a way even YOU will understand. Other versions refers to comic book alternate universes like Flashpoint, Red Son, and Gotham by Gaslight. NOT films, TV series, or tie-ins to those media! If you don't like it here, go edit the fan wikis! OilSlick96 (talk) 05:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

No shit you prick, i can READ. JosephWC (talk) 05:08, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

To User:OilSlick96, you stay out of this! To User:JosephWC, you also cannot just remove citation requests without a good reason nor make up citations for things that don't exist, like Scooby-Doo & Batman: The Brave and the Bold, which as near as I can tell, doesn't have a tie-in comic. Blazewing16 (talk) 05:10, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I got it, thank you. Please. Use the DC Database to look it up... JosephWC (talk) 05:11, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Re: Onomatopoeia

I understand that the material that you added is short, sweet, and to the point, but there's no point in adding them. Onomatopoeia is already a Green Arrow enemy, and he's fought him and Black Canary in the comics before, so there's no point in saying that again in the "In other media" section. There's also no point in saying Onomatopoeia fights the Arrow while the latter is fighting Deathstroke's gang because, while that never happened in the comics, ultimately, nobody cares about that sort of thing. It's incredibly minor and something that only hardcore fans care about, not general readers. For the most part, we're only supposed to list the details that differentiate a certain depiction of a comic book character from the original comics version. For example, comic book Onomatopoeia doesn't have Ono-Bots, so we can list that. Everything else that you want to add, we cannot. Yes, I concede that I left a lot of story detail for certain characters like Doomsday and Black Mask, but in my mind, if their story leads up to a death or if it feels significant enough that it must be listed, I'm going to try my best to leave it in with only the bare minimum of details unless an admin or someone much more experienced than me says otherwise. Anyway, I hope you understand why I did what I did in regards to Onomatopoeia. Blazewing16 (talk) 01:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

I understand. JosephWC (talk) 02:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

In Regards to Amazing-Man

Look, I get it. The anon IP's actions come off as vandalism and they are coming off as a jerk about it. However, I'm forced to acknowledge that they have somewhat of a point. Trivial non-appearances, or mentions as they put it, do not count. Yes, the entry for The Flash has sourcing, but it violates WP:EGG, which forbids the inclusion of Easter eggs. So does the Young Justice one, which is poorly worded in the first place and doesn't even having sourcing to back it up. I acknowledge the Young Justice incarnation of Amazing-Man as being important to Onyx's character, but he still didn't appear in Young Justice. On sourcing alone, I already can't allow its inclusion, but name checks make it doubly unworthy of inclusion on Wikipedia. Please do not start an WP:EDITWAR over this, for goodness sake. Blazewing16 (talk) 05:52, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Alright but i'm not a fan. I'll be the bigger man but this guy sucks regardless. JosephWC (talk) 06:06, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

No doubt that the other guy is a jerk, but barring that, I'm just trying my best to follow the rules. Blazewing16 (talk) 13:17, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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Re: Nimrod

Just so you know, I've been somewhat monitoring the situation with Nimrod, so before you go ballistic again, this is another case of the IP address being correct despite coming off as a jerk about it. I can't remember the specific reason why, but show titles are italicized while episode titles are in quotation marks. Also, you can't use fan wikis as sources because those are basically Wikipedia, but worse. If anyone can edit the website, then it's not a reliable source. Blazewing16 (talk) 21:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, not going ballistic over these anymore, it's an uphill battle and my Wiki source was outta frustrations. JosephWC (talk) 22:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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I have reverted your edits to my user page and Toyman because they did not appear to be constructive. Also, your post to my user talk page is obviously in violation of WP:CIVIL. Please try to keep in mind that articles on Wikipedia are meant to cover information only on the article's subject, so it's best to avoid wandering WP:OFFTOPIC, and showing hostility to your fellow editors is contrary to Wikipedia policy and does nothing to help you accomplish your objectives here. Martin IIIa (talk) 00:25, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

And you keeping other details without direct confirmation, isn't? Hypocrite. JosephWC (talk) 02:13, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

No idea what you're talking about, and it is clearly irrelevant in any case. Your continually re-inserting off-topic information into the article only creates the impression that you are being deliberately deconstructive. Martin IIIa (talk) 21:06, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh stop it, you have unconfirmed appearances of others without the Toyman character himself, ALL I'm doing is being consistent. You have the Supereboy version here, Nick Knack, the Wonder Woman one and you can't let the other Lois and Clark one here?? Bull! JosephWC (talk) 23:42, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

HOW THE HELL IS IT OFF TOPIC TO INCLUDE A TOYMAN-like character that YOU continuously screw me over on including?????? GOD!!!! I'll keep it up.

HE IS A TOYMAN, get lost. JosephWC (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, is there any reason you're removing requests for sourcing from the Marvel character page? Unsourced material is at risk of removal and at least showing where this is lacking it is a step towards avoiding this BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 13:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Cause i...uhhhhhhh listed the issues enough. JosephWC (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, so you did! my fault, still not great on the app. Please accept my apologies! BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 17:10, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Every issue i checked with a database to make sure it wasn't nonsense listing. JosephWC (talk) 18:09, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

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appreciate it, is it just a forum? JosephWC (talk) 01:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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