Article kept. Deletion debate below. -- Cecropia | Talk 03:18, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Fragemnt removed from History of Birmingham. Should be re-merged with that page. Andy Mabbett 08:04, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- go ahead, permission is not needed here to merge. --Jiang 09:42, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC) Andy Mabbett
- Done, but I still recommend deletion. 11:34, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Oppose. This content clearly does not fit in the History of Birmingham and clearly deserves its own article. For anyone not following recent developments, this is clearly moivated by Andy Mabbetts grudge against User:Nick Boulevard. G-Man 15:04, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Another piece of misinformation from G-man (who has just reverted my merging); there being no such grudge. Quite why a short piecce on the history of one part of the economy of Birmingham does not fit on page on the history of Birmingham is not apparent. Andy Mabbett 18:32, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Either leave as is, or merge the first sentence/paragraph, but NOT the lengthy list of external links--all but the Transport Museum link are company/product-specific, and have no business being on the general History of Birmingham page--if anywhere, they should be on the company-specific Wikipedia pages for the respective companies listed, and linked to, in the paragraph. Niteowlneils 03:58, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to merge the content, and move the page to "List of Transport Histroy links for Birmingham, England", or somethinkg like that. Andy Mabbett 10:34, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I've also replaced the VFD notice, which G-Man removed. Andy Mabbett 10:46, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Im sorry but the paragraph in question still does not fit into the History of Birmingham page. I have tried to fit it in and it simply does not go anywhere. G-Man 14:22, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Absolutely no way should this be moved anywhere, my god... for the record I tried to include this on the Birmingham main page some time ago, Andy Mabbet kept deleting and reverting for ages utill in the end he won, I was forced to give the history its own article, Birmingham has a massive transport history that will be added to, it is also currently a large part of the city economy and for that reason alone the page is a good cross reference, I worked hard to research all this and it is way too much to merge into the history section, just as the jewellery quarter and Birmingham military history and Gun Quarter, which for the record Andy has tried and failed to remove my own content (although some was originally copyright). Please, please keep your eye on this page and let me know if any effort is made to remove it. Many thanks G-man for picking this up. Nick Boulevard 19:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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