Talk:Diego Schwartzman
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Jewish origins ?
editI would disagree, personal life is about wife, children, etc. this is just a 'special II w.w. victim' account. My personal life would never be an account of my family victims in that war. Are we nuts? It is going to be for ever that the life of a person is written in political propaganda style? is this guy married, has children, lives in a villa, a city, a estancia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.33.107.246 (talk) 09:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
This should be clearly stated in Personal life, so no biased vandals come and edit the page incorrectly. Does anyone have a way to surely confirm or deny he is Jewish, please? Vandal - you should be ashamed of yourself. Naki (talk) 19:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Firstly, hold up on the "vandal" accusations, please. Not having a Wikipedia account does not make my edits any less legitimate than yours, thank you! The reason why I removed the claim that Schwartzman is Jewish is because the source is unreliable, as was clearly stated and explained in my edit summary. The reason being that the source merely states in passing that Schwartzman is Jewish with no first-hand evidence to support that claim. The relevant part of the source merely states:
- "Weintraub showed he has improved out of sight since his last visit to Melbourne Park 12 months ago, edging fellow Jewish players Wayne Odesnik, from the USA, and Argentine Diego Sebastian Schwartzman."
- There is no other source that I am aware of that corroborates this "fact", and Schwartzman himself has never publicly referred to himself or his family as Jewish to my knowledge. Even if it were true though, the information in the article gives no mention as to what extent he is Jewish. Does he practice the religion? Are both of his parents Jewish? Does he consider himself Jewish? All of which are pertinent to the question: "who is a Jew?". Therefore, in the absence of this information in the source article, I must question its reliability and where this information originally came from, and suggest that we remove the claim from his BLP until more reliable sources emerge that confirms the claim. As a courtesy, I will give you some time to find another reliable source, and if nothing suitable is forthcoming then I will be reinstating my edit in due course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.33.207 (talk) 20:35, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- You might want to create a Wikpedia account, so you are recognizable, if you plan to do any constructive edits in the future (which this one was sadly NOT). It is quite simple in fact, check out this player list The Best Tennis Players from Argentina As you can easily see, excepting Nalbandian, who has Armenian origins, all these players last names sound Spanish/Argentine. Schwartzman is clearly a Jewish name, if you do not trust me, you can look that up. :) If you do this again, I will revert once again, as you are quite incorrect here. Go some place else, not here, if you will be doing this - this is neither helpful, nor constructive. Thank you. Naki (talk) 20:45, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Also, the religion comment is irrelevant. Saying "Jewish origins" does not mean he is supposed to be actively practicing the religion at all. Naki (talk) 20:51, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- The "sound" of a player's surname is not sufficient to establish his religious or ethnic origin. On the other hand, all the press stories that identify him as Jewish are sufficient, especially in the absence of any good faith reason to question it. In this case, we have something even more decisive: in a 2016 ATP interview, Schwatzman states explicitly: "I am Jewish and in Argentina, we have many Jewish (people) there, and all the people there know me...(They say), 'Enjoy! Good luck this season. Come on, keep going!'" [1] I added this source and that should resolve any question. At the same time, I also removed the reference to Jewish origins in the opening sentence, as directed by MOS:OPENPARA#Context. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! I made the edit in good faith, but I am now satisfied that the question has been resolved. As for user:Naki, please think twice before insulting other Wikipedia users in future. Remember that you do not own this article, and you have no right to act as the final authority on who can or cannot make edits. A little humility and self-restraint would not go amiss.. Thanks all, have a pleasant weekend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.33.207 (talk) 21:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- The "sound" of a player's surname is not sufficient to establish his religious or ethnic origin. On the other hand, all the press stories that identify him as Jewish are sufficient, especially in the absence of any good faith reason to question it. In this case, we have something even more decisive: in a 2016 ATP interview, Schwatzman states explicitly: "I am Jewish and in Argentina, we have many Jewish (people) there, and all the people there know me...(They say), 'Enjoy! Good luck this season. Come on, keep going!'" [1] I added this source and that should resolve any question. At the same time, I also removed the reference to Jewish origins in the opening sentence, as directed by MOS:OPENPARA#Context. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
About the pronunciation
editIs the pronunciation of Schwartzman ([ʃwaɾtsˈman]) correct? Here is a reference: http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/diego-schwartzman/sm37/overview @Mr KEBAB: LoveVanPersie (talk) 18:36, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: The speaker in the source says [ˈʃwaɾdzman], but it seems to me that a much more natural version would be [eʃˈwaɾzman] (further simplified to [etʃˈwaɾzman] by many speakers). Mr KEBAB (talk) 18:41, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
header content
editWhen he reached the quarterfinals of the 2017 US Open, the 5' 6" (168 cm) Schwartzman was the shortest Grand Slam quarterfinalist since Jaime Yzaga (5' 7" at the 1994 US Open).[10] Schwartzman said: "It’s not just for the big guys here." In my opinion debatable whether that needs to be in the header. --LH7605 (talk) 14:29, 27 October 2019 (UTC)