Talk:First Sumatran expedition

Casualties

To the writer of this page.

I have reserached this and found only about 100-150 Sumatrans died during this campaign, it says that in your listed external links and info I have researched myself. Also, why is this entitled as an attack and not a battle? --Aj4444 (talk) 23:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC) 100-150 died in the battle, but after the battle downs bombarded the town and killed another 300 natives. See here http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/potomac.htm The reason i titled the article Attack on Quallah Battoo was because the article was about the entire incident and not just the battle. XavierGreen (talk) 00:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Piracy

Almost every account of the Sumatran expeditions say the Malays were in fact pirates that operated as pirates from the 1810s to the 1840s so why are the Sumatran Expeditions not considered an action against piracy?. The United States considered them pirates, the British considered them pirates and they attacked and robbed dozens of ships over the course of thirty years. When the merchant ship Friendship was attacked, the Malays stole it's cargo. When the Malays attacked the Eclipse in 1837, again they stole the cargo. The British launched an entire campaign and occupation in an effort to destroy this threat. I would like someone to respond before I add the "anti-piracy battles involving the united states" category to this page. --$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 08:10, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Because Quallah Battoo was technically a soveriegn nation, so legally its armed vessels were part of its military. I don't know about the people that attacked the Friendship, but the force that the US engaged at Quallah Batoo were not pirates but soldiers defending their city.XavierGreen (talk) 18:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

You apparently know more about the subject than I do. Is the reason why these Malays were considered pirates similar to how the U.S. and Europeans considered the Tripolitans and Algerians pirates during the Barbary Wars era? If so than I can understand why they are not pirates like Blackbeard or something but they did engage in two different acts of piracy. If this is a matter of state sponsored piracy than I can see why the category should not be added. If it was state sponsored piracy than I think that it was more a form of aggression on behalf of one nation on another as opposed to simple crime on the high seas. I see your point so I will not add the category, thanks for the reply.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 07:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

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