Talk:Goiânia

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I wrote the article on 05/08/04 after I found a stub on this major Brazilian city, which I know reasonably well. I tried to write more than just population, area etc., which anyone can find in Encarta or the Britannica. I also included a link to Pedro Ludovico, the founder of Goiania and one of the greatest politicians of the state of Goias. Ray Vogensen rcvogensen@hotmail.com.

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The article mentions that "It has an area of 285 square meters" but that can't possible be correct, since that's only about 16x16 meters, or 3000 sq ft. I couldn't find the right area so I will just remove it from the article for now until someone finds the correct one. -- Matiasp 20:43, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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By the way, anyone have any nice information to place here about the world widely famous cesium 137 accident?

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I think the article has become "wikified" to meet wikipedia standards so I took the liberty of removing the header, which only gave the impression that the article was badly written. Compared to many articles on foreign cities it is not that bad. Vogensen 08:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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I'm working in the cesim 137 accident, soon I'll add it! (Ricardo Perini)

Interesting fact?

In the Interesting facts sections it is stated that the operational system used on the city's hall is Linux. Come on, is it interesting? It's even being common now a days... If you agree with me, please remove it.

I agree. In fact, Brazilian gov. seems to have a open software policy long time ago. I work for "Ministério Público" (Brazilian prosecutors). Every computer in my department has free software installed, like Open Office. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.6.74.43 (talk) 14:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation?

The article gives the pronunciation of the city's name as /gɔɪˈɑniə/. However, it was my understanding that stressed A is raised and nasalized before N, so the correct pronunciation would be /gɔɪˈɐ̃niə/. The source for the existing pronunciation is suspect, IMHO, because an English-language dictionary is unlikely to give accurate native pronunciations of foreign names. Comments? Richwales (talk) 03:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Richwales is correct. I live in Goiânia and the "â" is spoken with the nose like when someone says "wAnted".

Should the native pronunciation be the criterion when speaking English though ? I think not - for a start, only those who can already speak Portuguese can be expected to know & produce the foreign sound; & in any case introducing foreign sounds into the midst of a sequence of English ones has a rather stilting effect on the flow. The pronunciation given in the article is a good Anglicization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.34.20 (talk) 15:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps the best answer is to show both pronunciations - as for the article on Paris. I've added the pronunciation with nasalized 'â'Scortchi (talk) 11:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Greenest brazilian city?

Anoter thing is, but I found no way to add a new topic in this comments page: Goiania is NOT the greenest city in Brazil and NOT THE SECOND in the world. Yes, it should be, but is not. I was born in Goiania and have visited many other cities in Brazil and in the world. The city of Brasilia in the DF (actualy, in the DF, they don't call it a city, but an administrative region) which is about 3h by car from here is too much greener and fresher. Also Amsterdam, NL and Canberra in Australia have thousands more street trees and green parks area per inhabitant than Goiania. Actualy, Goiania is now closer to a poluted and unplanned city than to a green and planned city. It was planned in the beginning, actually, but around the 70's it had already forgotten its "garden city" calling and deviated from the original plans. Many neighborhoods were added by disordered occupation and real state speculation. Ironically, these extremely remote neighborhoods still receive names like "Sectors" as if Goiania was still following the town & country concepts of Ebenezer Howard. Many irregular occupations had to be "regularized", then the city ended up loosing a great part of its green areas to private occupations. Since the 90's Goiania is fighting to get its green calling back and the green parks have been in the city hall's agenda, although the size of the city is widelly bigger than the needs of green areas and the number of street trees are met. Actually since the 80's the city has been loosing it's street trees due to many factors like public lights versus security (our poles are too tall and trees make shade at night), the prevailing aerial wiring system allow the energy company to cut trees like "Us" and "Ys", trees illnesses problems, businesses wanting to show the front of stores to the streets, etc. Regional law seems to have been very weak in this aspects despite the hard labor of the current and some previous mayors. -- Pedro Carneiro Jr. (talk)

It gave sources, so i think it must stay. I must say that i'm suprised about it when i read, but makes some sense, go to google maps and search the "Jardim Botanico", It's huge, i live on the 10th floor on a building near it, and when i open my bedroon window, it seems like the city end there and that trees go away until the horizon. I'm still looking for the original UN report mentioned on many sources.

Ps.: Pedrokarneiro I took the liberty of creating a topic for this discussion, but i didn't changed any of your text.

João Beno (talk) 02:11, 27 Aug 2009 (GMT -3h)

Actually, the title of "greenest city" is dubious, and misleading when it comes to the English language. Usually, when you say a city is 'green', you mean something about sustainability, such as measures towards having low carbon emissions or something. That is not what is meant about Goiânia. This poll that places Goiânia second only to Edmonton refers to green area per inhabitant ratio. I think it is important to specify that, since it can be misleading otherwise. Also, I had provided an extra source for that, and it has been deleted. I'm putting it back, since I can think of no possible reason for it being deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasneviano (talk • contribs) 15:44, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Goiania green-area per capita is a historical dream

Living in Goiania, I can attest that Goiania's urban sprawl is huge. In 50 years this city has grown from 300,000 people to over 2 million. In the last twenty years the metropolitan population has grown from under a million to well over 2 million. There used to be sprawling green fields, all these suburbs are now filled with skyscrapers. You take a satellite photo from 1990 and compare it to today. There is barely any green left. People were questioning this fact on Wikipedia 10 years ago, when the population was close to half of today. And the source for the claim is an article for Tourism, not a statistical fact. What is worse, numerous websites around the world are now using Wikipedia as their source, and copying and propagating this (now) complete falsehood. This false Wikipedia statement is certainly doing the Internet a complete disservice. Mclist (talk) 23:11, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Reference to Campinas?

As I read this page, I saw the reference to Campinas. I have no clue what is meant with this, because Campinas and Goiania have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Campinas isn't a planned city, and I see no real link in the art deco part either. Most of Campinas' historic monuments stem from the coffee boom of inland São Paulo, and are neo-colonial in style and not art deco at all. If this is supposed to refer to a town, also called Campinas, but in Goias that existed prior to Goiania being founded, then the link to Campinas, SP needs to be removed. I didn't want to do so, because the original contributor might have meant something else that does actually connect the two cities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.106.167.233 (talk) 18:56, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I've re-directed the link - which should indeed have been to Campinas the borough of Goiania, & not Campinas SP. Scortchi (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

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