Talk:Moke (slang)

this page is absolutely correct. leave it alone, and bring the recreational activities section back. Ey brah like catch cracks? only Hawai'i locals should be editing this. how do you know it's opinion if you don't live here?

thank you for not moking

24.94.70.58 (talk) edited to remove the overt racism. 96816 —Preceding undated comment added 10:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC).

Internationality

This article may be correct, so far as it discusses "moke" as Polynesian slang. ("only Hawai'i locals should be editing this" - seriously??!) But the word "moke" is also an English language slang word, in modern times an offensive term for any black person. IMHO the article needs extensive modification in order to reflect this wider use of the term. Neuralwarp (talk) 19:41, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Moke was originally used as a derogatory term for working class Irish, then as an american term for a general term for an idiot, used in the same way someone might get called an 'ass'. This is the first i've heard of this racial slant and from what I can tell is highly localised, the Hawai'ian definition should be a subnote not the sole topic of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.250.108 (talk) 13:34, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

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=="Moke" in Hawai'ian culture==

Many people in Hawai'i compare the Moke to the southern "redneck" in terms of personality. Much like a "redneck", the word Moke can be used as both a pejorative term and a term of pride . Also much like a redneck, mokes may stereotypically carry an affinity for pickup trucks, pitbulls, and are construed as uneducated. Mokes also have similar stereotypes to the Mexican-American "cholo", in mannerisms and appearance.

The common stereotype of a Moke is a local male of Hawai'ian or other Pacific Islander descent, who speaks a form of English known as "pidgin", wears tank-top t-shirts, or no shirt, boardshorts, and cheap rubber sandals (also known as the "rubba slippa"). The term also suggests a person who is needlessly aggressive in dealing with others—particularly when the "others" are Caucasians ("haoles") -- and who views violence as the first and best way to get anything he wants or in response to any perceived slight.

The term Moke appears in the July, 1957 issue of Atlantic Advocate and refers to "Smokey Mokes", a travelling minstrel troupe in Atlantic Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.178.124 (talk) 14:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Needs reliable sources and to be brought up to encyclopedic standards. Wikiuser100 (talk) 23:38, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Also deleted was the cited material: "The word was also used at the United States Naval Academy until the 1960s or later to pejoratively describe a janitor, normally African American.(cite:)"Blue & Gold and Black". Retrieved 27 December 2014.{end cite) (comment)--and probably other places as well. Not just Hawaii" Odd how racial pejoratives don't get into the encyclopedia because they were never in an encyclopedia. Sounds a bit Catch-22. Student7 (talk) 20:16, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Hawaiian for rednecks?

Rednecks in Hawaii? 2603:6000:D700:194D:E8A7:961B:AE8:50B1 (talk) 16:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)