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Bob Joy

I was looking at doing something with his obituary, and then I saw your sandbox. That looks better than most “real” articles already.

One very important part of his career, IMO, was his refusal to give undue medical sanction to parts of the Army Weight Control Program. It probably capped his rank at Colonel. Dunno where one would find cites for it, though. Qwirkle (talk) 15:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Ways to improve Robert J. T. Joy

Hello, Don.H.40,

Thank you for creating Robert J. T. Joy.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Significant portions of the article appear to be drawn from sources that are a bit too primary, and there's more than a few cases where the sources are not impartial enough to justify the inclusion of non-neutral adjectives and praise.

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Hi Don, I don't know if any of the pages you are keeping an eye on are protected under WP:Pending Changes, but I've set your account as a Peding Changes reviewer as it is likely to be useful at some point. ϢereSpielChequers 23:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Thank you for creating United States Army Medical Command, Vietnam! Good one! ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 05:05, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Next on my list is the US Army Health Services Group, Vietnam . . .Don.H.40 (talk) 05:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Don.H.40/sandbox moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Don.H.40/sandbox, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Dan arndt (talk) 03:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

I have added a “too many primary sources” banner at the top of the article; I was also carful as I added material from government documents and webpages to “remove the adjectives” as I like to call it. But if I relied on secondary and tertiary sources alone, the article would be about 5 paragraphs long, absent reprinting material that already appears in the articles on Charles L. Kelly and Patrick Henry Brady. I’m not quite sure why it kicked to draft instead of publishing in the first place, except that somebody appears to have attempted to have written an article with the same title in ~2009. My other articles have gone straight to publication. Don.H.40 (talk) 04:46, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thanks. The Army Medical aviation community members I have shown it to have viewed it favorably. But it still has some holes. I took it "hot" this evening.Don.H.40 (talk) 02:50, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

57th Medical Detachment

I just noticed a curious thing about the article. All the dates appear to be in the day month year style but it is about a US Army unit. Shouldn't the dates all be month day, year? CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:15, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Military units, including in the US, typically use the day, month, year format. It leaves less room for error. And I believe it's a Wikipedia convention as well. Don.H.40 (talk) 23:00, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I'd not noticed that before but I see it covered at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Strong national ties to a topic. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 00:50, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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I was in the process of uploading it when you flagged it and deleted the link to the image. I normally create the link, then upload the image so everything matches. Which explains why, when I went to view the image on the page, it wasn't there--I couldn't figure it out. I'm not new at this, or at uploading images to the 44th's page. It's all uploaded now. Don.H.40 (talk) 04:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Next time, please upload it first. That way there will be no room for misunderstandings. Sumanuil. 04:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

OK. But it was literally one minute after I posted the link that you deleted it . . . :-)Don.H.40 (talk) 18:22, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

I just happened to refresh Category:Articles with missing files right when you hit publish. Sumanuil. 23:10, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

It’s all good. Purely coincidence. I once got a parking ticket during the minute I was standing in line to feed the machine that you paid for parking. It was just a shocker when I finished uploading the image to commons and went to view it on the page and there was no link to it . . . :-)Don.H.40 (talk) 00:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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The photo is clipped from Col Ideaus's periodic official photo. These are head to foot photos taken against a neutral background used for official purposes like promotion boards, etc. It was taken by a U.S. Government employee at a photo studio on a U.S. military installation and cropped to provide a "head and shoulders" version of the photo for use on the "dustoff.org" website. The photo itself is tagged as the work of a U.S. government employee (although it may have been the work of a contractor as a "work-for-hire") and is not subject to copyright control. The Dustoff Association executive director said I could use the picture from their website, although they did not originally produce the photo. Don.H.40 (talk) 23:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

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I don't know what you want. The photo was literally sent to me by the 1st Medical Brigade staff. It's an official command photo, taken at the photo studio at Fort Hood, Texas. Since Col Darden has been retired for several years, they took his (and several other) photos off the wall and scanned them for me. Trust me, having spent 30 years as an Army officer and haven had a couple of these photos taken myself, you don't pack up your uniform and unit colors and head off to a private photographer to have a portrait taken--it was either taken by a government employee or a contractor as a work-for-hire, and is not copyrighted--it's a work of the U.S. Army--which is how I flagged it in the copyright section. Who teh actual photographer is is unknown. Don.H.40 (talk) 23:18, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

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