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March 2013
editPlease refrain from edits such as this one. Inserting "science" from the 1950s in an article such as this poses serious questions about your scholarly competence, and besides, it's just plain offensive to refer to homosexuality as a paraphilia. You're welcome to do so out in the great wide open, but not here. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:58, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- Perhaps it is offensive to those who consider it not a serious issue, but to those who do, it is against what Wikipedia is about to attempt to censor the truth. A reader who gains information from such articles might question why such acts are criminalized at all. It is a perfectly fine thing to desire steps toward anarchy, but to use such a widely-used Web site to promote such propaganda is not in the best interests of the readers. People read Wikipedia for encyclopedic and scholarly information, not to be comforted. --Dromioofephesus (talk) 03:10, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- What is offensive is that is you seem to be saying that homosexuality is criminalized (it is? not everywhere) because it is a sexual disorder. You seem to claim that homosexuality is a sexual disorder. That is precisely the kind of thing you need to check at the door when you sign in, since that can only be an opinion, not a fact. I hope you can edit neutrally: claiming that it's propaganda to say that homosexuality is not a sexual disorder is soapboxing from way back when. This is 2013, and science is not with you. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:27, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- If homosexuality isn't an example of disorder, I don't know what a disorder would be. When I was sexually attracted to those of the same sex, I could tell that it wasn't right, and I'm not the only one who has felt that way. I hate to see it treated in such a manner on Wikipedia that would give people like me who deal with such feelings think that it is something that should just be accepted. Just as one can learn to abstain from food, alcoholic beverages, or any other physical desires, one can overcome homosexuality. And if current research on sexuality and epigenetics can be trusted, perhaps one day genetic engineering can remove any genetic impetus in the first place, such that punishments and infliction of pain will no longer be necessary to reduce its prevalence. I do not blame anyone personally for such thoughts, but those who have never had any attraction toward the same-sex (who appear to be in the majority) seem to assume that it occurs similarly to heterosexual attraction. I'm sure a similar reaction occurred when colorblindness was discovered. --Dromioofephesus (talk) 03:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- This is not the encyclopedia you're looking for. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 08:22, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- This page may also be useful to you: Ex-ex-gay. Your homosexual attractions are nothing to be ashamed of. Please try to stop hating a part of yourself. Climatophile (talk) 10:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't feel ashamed of my attractions because I feel like I have moved beyond them; I have gotten to the point where I don't even consider acting upon them. It's been a pretty remarkable change in my behavior over less than ten years. But now, however, instead of losing sleep worrying about how I will overcome it, I find myself losing sleep over seeing things like the article you mentioned. Homosexuals seem to feel like they can just take a pill and be fixed, but unfortunately we're not quite there yet. It takes time, perseverance, punishments, and a strong willingness to be in command of one's biological desires, rather than letting them take command of you. And you might never get the thoughts to go away, but you can recognize when they arrive and be ready to deny them. I imagine pedophiles have similar situations. However, such thoughts can be overcome, as can any sort of addiction, and it is very much worthwhile. There is great joy in self-improvement that is unmatched in most other endeavors, and I just hope that others who are afflicted with such desires can learn to overcome them as I have and perhaps even enter into a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, forgetting about their SSA lust. What I feel ashamed of now is people who declare themselves credible who tell people that they are too weak to overcome their bodily desires and live a happy life. --Dromioofephesus (talk) 17:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- The homosexuals I know tell me that they are fine the way they are, and I hope all of them find wonderful SSA things to do during this lovely weekend. Whatever your personal issues are, they don't allow you to edit our articles in ways that are medically and scientifically unacceptable. The rest of this conversation is just too disturbing and I won't venture outside of Wikipedia policy and guidelines, which is a subject I'm moderately comfortable with. Thank you, and have a great weekend. Drmies (talk) 17:41, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't feel ashamed of my attractions because I feel like I have moved beyond them; I have gotten to the point where I don't even consider acting upon them. It's been a pretty remarkable change in my behavior over less than ten years. But now, however, instead of losing sleep worrying about how I will overcome it, I find myself losing sleep over seeing things like the article you mentioned. Homosexuals seem to feel like they can just take a pill and be fixed, but unfortunately we're not quite there yet. It takes time, perseverance, punishments, and a strong willingness to be in command of one's biological desires, rather than letting them take command of you. And you might never get the thoughts to go away, but you can recognize when they arrive and be ready to deny them. I imagine pedophiles have similar situations. However, such thoughts can be overcome, as can any sort of addiction, and it is very much worthwhile. There is great joy in self-improvement that is unmatched in most other endeavors, and I just hope that others who are afflicted with such desires can learn to overcome them as I have and perhaps even enter into a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, forgetting about their SSA lust. What I feel ashamed of now is people who declare themselves credible who tell people that they are too weak to overcome their bodily desires and live a happy life. --Dromioofephesus (talk) 17:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- This page may also be useful to you: Ex-ex-gay. Your homosexual attractions are nothing to be ashamed of. Please try to stop hating a part of yourself. Climatophile (talk) 10:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- This is not the encyclopedia you're looking for. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 08:22, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- If homosexuality isn't an example of disorder, I don't know what a disorder would be. When I was sexually attracted to those of the same sex, I could tell that it wasn't right, and I'm not the only one who has felt that way. I hate to see it treated in such a manner on Wikipedia that would give people like me who deal with such feelings think that it is something that should just be accepted. Just as one can learn to abstain from food, alcoholic beverages, or any other physical desires, one can overcome homosexuality. And if current research on sexuality and epigenetics can be trusted, perhaps one day genetic engineering can remove any genetic impetus in the first place, such that punishments and infliction of pain will no longer be necessary to reduce its prevalence. I do not blame anyone personally for such thoughts, but those who have never had any attraction toward the same-sex (who appear to be in the majority) seem to assume that it occurs similarly to heterosexual attraction. I'm sure a similar reaction occurred when colorblindness was discovered. --Dromioofephesus (talk) 03:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- What is offensive is that is you seem to be saying that homosexuality is criminalized (it is? not everywhere) because it is a sexual disorder. You seem to claim that homosexuality is a sexual disorder. That is precisely the kind of thing you need to check at the door when you sign in, since that can only be an opinion, not a fact. I hope you can edit neutrally: claiming that it's propaganda to say that homosexuality is not a sexual disorder is soapboxing from way back when. This is 2013, and science is not with you. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:27, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- Perhaps it is offensive to those who consider it not a serious issue, but to those who do, it is against what Wikipedia is about to attempt to censor the truth. A reader who gains information from such articles might question why such acts are criminalized at all. It is a perfectly fine thing to desire steps toward anarchy, but to use such a widely-used Web site to promote such propaganda is not in the best interests of the readers. People read Wikipedia for encyclopedic and scholarly information, not to be comforted. --Dromioofephesus (talk) 03:10, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Same-sex marriage. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. - MrX 03:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- MrX was way too nice by referring to this edit, "Same-sex marriage is usually sought by those who wish to use government protections in order to inflict civil penalties upon the innocent who desire justice", as original research. It's soapboxing of the worst kind, and I will not hesitate to block you for such abuse of the project. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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- Thanks. I don't even remember making that edit. —Dromioofephesus (talk) 00:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the notification, but unfortunately that file is like five years old and I don't even remember exactly who took that photo. It's just as well, though, because there's enough new photos with TPD's current markings that the file is not really necessary for the article anymore. I agree with speedy deletion.
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- Fair enough. —Dromioofephesus (talk) 20:18, 14 January 2019 (UTC)