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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
Administrator changes
CheckUser changes
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Arbitration
- Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
- The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.
Miscellaneous
- The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
Geardona
editHello, I was wondering is I could/should restart doing RCP, as you are an admin who understands my situation I am looking for your input. Thanks! Geardona (talk to me?) 01:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have continued in earnest, only reverting clear vandalism. Geardona (talk to me?) 22:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Geardona: sorry for the delayed reply, have been away from the desk for most of the day. Will have a quick review of your recent edits in a little while and see if I have any useful advice. As a general point there is no prohibition on doing vandalism reverts, and it's an essential task for the wiki overall. So provided you proceed carefully, all should be fine. :) -- Euryalus (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks! Geardona (talk to me?) 23:45, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Do you think I could return to having rollback in good standing or should I wait a few days/week/months/years/decades/centuries (past months is a joke(I hope)) Geardona (talk to me?) 18:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'd wait a couple of months. It's not essential for anti-vandalism work and the request is more likely to be approved if there's a reasonable time between removal and application. -- Euryalus (talk) 06:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Geardona: sorry for the delayed reply, have been away from the desk for most of the day. Will have a quick review of your recent edits in a little while and see if I have any useful advice. As a general point there is no prohibition on doing vandalism reverts, and it's an essential task for the wiki overall. So provided you proceed carefully, all should be fine. :) -- Euryalus (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Schools-360
editHello, I put it on the spam blacklist, citing an earlier conversation with Mitch Ames on the log, which I only just found out about (after having previously cleaned up some of the latest spam of that site). Six spamming attempts are more than enough. Graham87 (talk) 05:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Graham87: thanks for that. Have to admire their persistence but they're aware that this is commercial link spam and seem to think brute forcing it back into articles will eventually pay off. Ah well. Oh and Happy New Year. -- Euryalus (talk) 05:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
Administrator changes
Bureaucrat changes
Guideline and policy news
- An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
Technical news
- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
Arbitration
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
- Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.
Miscellaneous
- Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
- Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
- The Unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
Hi, you protected this page back in 2020. I don't really think this article needs to be protected anymore - there's been no disruption in the page history whatsoever except for a brief spurt of IP editwarring in 2020 when you protected it. Can you please unprotect this page? Regards, Prodraxis (talk) 16:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Prodraxis: done. -- Euryalus (talk) 01:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
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Guideline and policy news
- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
Technical news
- The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)
Miscellaneous
- The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
- Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.
Email re survey
edit@Jonathan Engel (researcher): thanks for the email. Happy to complete a survey but prefer to do so on-wiki. If you post the questions on this page I'll answer them here.
If that doesn't work for I understand and thanks anyway for the offer. -- Euryalus (talk) 05:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
UAA decline
editHi - I honenstly struggle to see how the expression "Skullbreaker" is not blatantly violent. The example I cited and every example you cited are direclty related to violence and harm (actual or depictions of). In indicating that you feel this is not a blatant expression of violence - would you mind elaborating on what then constitutes a blatant expression of violence? If it is possible to link me to some examples of deleted usernames that fall within this category it would help (I did try searching the page history at UAA, but did not have much luck). Thank you, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- For the sake of transparency, I've asked the editor in question
({{noping|SkullbreakerDFA}})about the origin of their username. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:57, 20 March 2024 (UTC)- An update: following my engagement with the editor they changed their useranme. I still remain interested in understanding your views on what is (and isn't) a blatant expression of violence. To be clear, I'm glad you declined as this produced a far better outcome than a blocked editor, rather at first instance we have an editor who is engaged with others and editing. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay, was away a few days. Agree that talking to the user generated a good outcome, well done with that. It doesn't seem like they meant any harm with the name but am glad they've decided to go with something else. It also indicated why they'd picked this name (the Fortnite reference and not the stupid falling-over meme). As mentioned at UAA the "Skullbreaker" name has other possible interpretations such as a character in Call of Duty, an obtainable weapon in World of Warcraft and an alternate name for a medieval samurai blade. Or a username from another website, as in this case. Where the name is ambiguous some follow-up is usually required.
- An update: following my engagement with the editor they changed their useranme. I still remain interested in understanding your views on what is (and isn't) a blatant expression of violence. To be clear, I'm glad you declined as this produced a far better outcome than a blocked editor, rather at first instance we have an editor who is engaged with others and editing. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Re violent usernames, am reluctant to highlight too many but as examples of usernames that are blatantly violent and deserving of an immediate block perhaps have a look at the Special:ListUsers starting at with "Kill all." A more specific example is this one from a troll of yesteryear. What these have in common is their unarguable call for violence against named groups or individuals. This contrasts with usernames which simply mention objects you could hit someone with, or actions that might cause generic harm. There's nothing unarguably wrong, for example, with a User:Hammer or User:Drivingtoofast. Of course context also matters: had the user called themselves "Skullbreaker" and then edited to promote breaking people's skulls they would likely have been blocked. However in this case the name alone, without supporting evidence or follow-up, didn't meet the policy standard for an immediate block.
- Hope that explains what I was thinking in this case. People's mileage can also vary in interpreting any policy, but for me personally the outcome in this case seems to support the decisions to not block on first sight. Either way, happy to discuss further if required. -- Euryalus (talk) 02:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Euryalus - thank you for taking the time to explain with nuance. For some context, my initial response to this was to engage the editor, but when using Twinkle to tag the user page, the instruction contained there indicated that in cases of violence to go straight to UAA and *not* engage. The links you provide and the elements you describe in your consideration are all very helpful. Again, appreciate you taking the time. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 19:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hope that explains what I was thinking in this case. People's mileage can also vary in interpreting any policy, but for me personally the outcome in this case seems to support the decisions to not block on first sight. Either way, happy to discuss further if required. -- Euryalus (talk) 02:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).
Administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
Technical news
- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
Arbitration
- An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
Miscellaneous
- Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Caution
editI saw you just reverted this edit. Please see these two edits, as well. I'm not sure what's going on, but this editor is causing (rather than addressing) disruption, and I think they need some admin attention. Grandpallama (talk) 21:00, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, give me a sec. -- Euryalus (talk) 21:31, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
edit | Happy First Edit Day! Hi Euryalus! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |  |
Always precious
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Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
Guideline and policy news
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
Technical news
- Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
Arbitration
- The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.
Miscellaneous
- This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).
Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
- Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.
Technical news
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351
Arbitration
- The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
- The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.
Miscellaneous
- WikiProject Reliability's unsourced statements drive is happening in June 2024 to replace {{citation needed}} tags with references! Sign up here to participate!
In case you were curious
editThis was the culprit 😅. – 2804:F1...99:532B (talk) 09:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah that was confusing. Thanks :) -- Euryalus (talk) 10:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
Administrator changes
Technical news
- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
Miscellaneous
- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
Technical news
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ
Voting for coordinators is now open!
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
Arbitration
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
Miscellaneous
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
Conflict of interest reminder
editHello @Euryalus, I appreciate your collaboration on Wikipedia; However, I noticed you are in a conflict of interest. A conflict of interest is the incompatibility between Wikipedia's objectives of neutrality and reliability and the particular objectives of certain editors, individuals, entities, or companies of any type.
All contributions in the main space are subject to the policies of content criteria of this Wikipedia (what Wikipedia is not), encyclopedic quality (verifiability and no original research), editorial method (neutral point of view), and legitimacy of content (copyrights). All publishers are expected to abide by these policies when creating and evaluating content and to respect and assume good faith in the actions of other publishers to ensure that these policies are followed.
If you edit under a conflict of interest, you must apply the corresponding policy with special care; Otherwise, your user account could be considered private purpose and blocked. Feel free to reach out on my talk page if you have any questions. Drexel35 (talk) 09:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Drexel35: thanks for the message but I have no idea what you're talking about. And in passing, please don't continue to vandalise my userpage or post any more personal attacks. -- Euryalus (talk) 10:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Voting for WikiProject Military history coordinators is now open!
editVoting for WikiProject Military history coordinators is now open! A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. Register your vote here by 23:59 UTC on 29 September! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
New message from Passengerpigeon
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
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Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.
Arbitration
- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
- An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
- Editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC).
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2024
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Guideline and policy news
- Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
- Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.
Technical news
- Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068
Arbitration
- RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.
Miscellaneous
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Happy Adminship Anniversary!
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Nominations now open for the WikiProject Military history newcomer of the year and military historian of the year
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TPA revoking request
editPlease revoke TPA of User:Cohenisaloser. Thanks, ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for leting me know. -- Euryalus (talk) 02:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Happy (Belated) Adminship Anniversary!
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P.S. I am so sorry for the lateness. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 22:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: No problems, thanks for the well-wishing. :) -- Euryalus (talk) 22:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I hope you had a lovely day! :) DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 22:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2024
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Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
- Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
- Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.
Technical news
- Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.
Arbitration
- The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
- An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.
"Nubians" article
editI want to inform you that the edit warring started on 11/24/2024 by Tobby's edit, so may you restore the article to an older version than that; which will be the actual stable article, thanks. 41.68.190.220 (talk) 09:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message. I reverted to the version as it existed when the last protection was applied. It's probably the wrong version because it always is from someone's perspective. Anyway: the key issue is that the edit-warring stops and a discussion starts on the talkpage, with a view to reaching consensus on whether to include or remove the images. -- Euryalus (talk) 09:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- That is my point, the last protection had been applied because of the edit warring happened after that 11/24/2024 edit, and continued after,
- That is why I think the actual stable version would be prior to that.
- And I reached for the other editor and got no reply. 41.68.190.220 (talk) 10:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello again. Mildly, you left the other editor a message an hour before posting here. They havent edited since and may have logged off for the day. In these circumstances it's not reasonable to write them off as "no reply."
- In any case the correct course now is to resolve the content dispute in the article by presenting your argument on the article talk page. You've said the the image is irrelevant and the caption false, but it won't get changed simply on your assertion. If you have any reliable secondary sources to support those claims then post them to the article talkpage and they can be reviewed by other editors. If a consensus of other editors agrees with you, the images will likely be left out.
- In the interim the protection helps prevent an ongoing edit war. It can be lifted if a consensus is reached. Hope that's helpful info, and all the best. -- Euryalus (talk) 14:20, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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