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Women in Red in July 2022
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DYK for Hilda Hanbury
On 3 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hilda Hanbury, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actress Hilda Hanbury was the grandmother of actors James and Edward Fox and the great-grandmother of actress Emilia Fox? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hilda Hanbury. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hilda Hanbury), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
WikiCup 2022 July newsletter
The third round of the 2022 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 180 points, which is a lower figure than last year when 294 points were needed to progress to round 4. Our top scorers in round 3 were:
BennyOnTheLoose, with 746 points, a tally built both on snooker and other sports topics, and on more general subjects.
Bloom6132, with 683 points, garnered mostly from "In the news" items and related DYKs.
Sammi Brie, with 527, from a variety of submissions related to radio and television stations.
Between them contestants achieved 5 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 51 good articles, 149 DYK entries, 68 ITN entries, and 109 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article nomination, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. WikiCup judges: Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Growth team newsletter #21
Welcome to the twenty-first newsletter from the Growth team!
New project: Positive reinforcement
- The Growth team started a new project: Positive reinforcement. We want newcomers to understand there is an interest in regularly editing Wikipedia, and we want to improve new editor retention.
- We asked users from Arabic, Bangla, Czech and French Wikipedia about their feedback. Some people participated at mediawiki.org as well.
- We summarized the initial feedback gathered from these community discussions, along with how we plan to iterate based on that feedback.
- The first Positive Reinforcement idea is a redesign of the impact module: incorporating stats, graphs, and other contribution information. This idea received the widest support, and we plan to start our work based on the design illustrated on the side.
- Please let us know what you think of this project, in any language.
For mentors
- We have worked on two new features, to inform them about the mentorship:
Scaling
- "Add a link" available at more wikis ― Add a link feature has been deployed to more wikis: Catalan Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Simple English Wikipedia, Swedish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Abkhazian Wikipedia, Achinese Wikipedia, Adyghe Wikipedia, Afrikaans Wikipedia, Akan Wikipedia, Alemannisch Wikipedia, Amharic Wikipedia, Aragonese Wikipedia, Old English Wikipedia, Syriac Wikipedia, Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia, Asturian Wikipedia, Atikamekw Wikipedia, Avaric Wikipedia, Aymara Wikipedia, Azerbaijani Wikipedia, South Azerbaijani Wikipedia. This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure locally how this feature works.
- "Add an image" available at more wikis ― Add an image feature will be deployed to more wikis: Greek Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia. These communities will be able to configure locally how this feature works. [1]
Suggested edits
- Selecting topics ― We have created an "AND" filter to the list of topics at Special:Homepage. This way, newcomers can decide to select very specific topics ("Transportation" AND "Asia") or to have a broader selection ("Transportation" OR "Asia"). At the moment this feature is tested at pilot wikis.
- Changes for Add a link ― We have built several improvements that came from community discussion and from data analysis. They will be available soon at the wikis.
- Algorithm improvements ― The algorithm now avoids recommending links in sections that usually don't have links and for first names. Also, it now limits each article to only having three link suggestions by default (limited to the highest accuracy suggestions of all the available ones in the article).
- User experience improvements ― We added a confirmation dialog when a user exits out of suggestion mode prior to making changes. We also improved post-edit dialog experience and allow newcomers to browse through task suggestions from the post-edit dialog.
- Community configuration ― We allow communities to set a maximum number of links per article via Special:EditGrowthConfig.
- Future change for Add a link feature ― We will suggest underlinked articles in priority. [2]
- Patrolling suggested edits ― Some users at Arabic Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, and Russian Wikipedia told us that "Add a link" and "Add an image" edits can be challenging to patrol. We are now brainstorming improvements to help address this challenge. We have already some ideas and we started some work to address this challenge. If you have any thoughts to add about the challenges of reviewing these tasks or how we should improve these tasks further, please let us know, in any language.
Community configuration
Communities can configure how the features work, using Special:EditGrowthConfig.
- Communities can set the maximum number of "add an image" suggested tasks a newcomer can complete daily. [3]
- Future change: allow communities to customize the "add a link" quality gate threshold easily, using Special:EditGrowthConfig. [4]
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2022 Greater Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thons
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DYK for Ada Buisson
On 27 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ada Buisson, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Ada Buisson died at the age of 27, and her short story "The Ghost's Summons" has been anthologised several times since her death? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ada Buisson. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ada Buisson), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Women in Red August 2022
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DYK for Fast and Feel Love
On 30 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fast and Feel Love, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the plot of Fast and Feel Love involves a character competing to become the fastest cup-stacking competitor in the world? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fast and Feel Love. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fast and Feel Love), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Books & Bytes – Issue 51
The Wikipedia Library
Books & Bytes
Issue 51, May – June 2022
- New library partners
- SAGE Journals
- Elsevier ScienceDirect
- University of Chicago Press
- Information Processing Society of Japan
- Feedback requested on this newsletter
- 1Lib1Ref May 2022
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NPP drive award
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| This award is given to Paul2520 for 5 reviews in the July NPP backlog reduction drive. Your contributions played a part in the 9895 reviews that took place during the drive. Thank you for your contributions.. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 09:33, 3 August 2022 (UTC) |
New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello Paul2520,
- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
- Coordination
- MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
- Open letter to the WMF
- The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
- TIP - Reviewing by subject
- Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
- New reviewers
- The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
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Thanks for your help.
Hi Paul 2520,
Thank you for your edit to my first attempt at a biography about David M. Nisson, a scientist who is a member of the underrepresented group - higher education students and professionals who need the ADA accommodation of allowing their 1:1 support staff on campus and in their workplaces. Because I'm new and making a lot of errors, this article has been tagged for deletion, and I was ready to just give up. However, I have changed my mind and am going to try my best to save it for the sake of representation of his group. Would you mind placing this article on your "watchlist", and helping out with further edits, citations and links? I appreciate all you do at Wikipedia! Truth2239 (talk) 16:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Truth2239, and thanks for your note.
- Per your talk page and the article's talk page, unfortunately it sounds like Nisson does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. Great to hear he is/was publishing research in the accessibility field. But generally he would need coverage in third-party sources; see Wikipedia:Independent sources. For example, with researchers I would generally expect to see them receiving recognition like national/international awards, or articles in newspapers/magazines where they are interviewed for their work.
- Looking at the article, I see some great work put into writing and sourcing. My suggestion is: the two paragraphs starting with "Because the majority..." and "Normally..." aren't really about Nisson, but rather relate to low-functioning autism and other topics relating to occupational therapy (albeit, backed by some of Nisson's research). It may make sense, if Nisson's contributions are significant enough to those fields/areas, to instead bring that content to other articles. I would suggest posting on the talk pages of those articles first, which I would expect to bring attention of editors more familiar in those fields.
- It does seem like Nisson has done some great science! You may be interested to post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology to share the page you started and maybe get leads of where the references could go. = paul2520 💬 16:54, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Paul2520,
- Thank you for your great advice, and for your edit to the page itself. Nisson has only published in the physics field, while his advocacy work has been at local live events, his blog, etc. So, as you say, the article fails in the area of notability guidelines. I appreciate your time, and for your suggestion to post at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology page to seek their recommendations. Truth2239 (talk) 17:27, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Maya Pindyck
On 12 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maya Pindyck, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that creating visual art led Maya Pindyck to write poetry? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maya Pindyck. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Maya Pindyck), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Your submission at Articles for creation: Louisiana Historical Society has been accepted
Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.
The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. It is commonplace for new articles to start out as stubs and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.
If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.
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Thanks again, and happy editing!
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For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
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DYK nomination of Mary Metlay Kaufman
Hello! Your submission of Mary Metlay Kaufman at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! TSventon (talk) 14:14, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
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Women in Red in September 2022
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WikiCup 2022 September newsletter
WikiCup 2022 September newsletter
The fourth round of the WikiCup has now finished. 383 points were required to reach the final, and the new round has got off to a flying start with all finalists already scoring. In round 4, Bloom6132 with 939 points was the highest points-scorer, with a combination of DYKs and In the news items, followed by BennyOnTheLoose, Sammi Brie and Lee Vilenski. The points of all contestants are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.
At this stage, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. For the remaining competitors, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and importantly, before the deadline on October 31st!
If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. The judges are Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:44, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Board of Trustees election
Thank you for supporting the NPP initiative to improve WMF support of the Page Curation tools. Another way you can help is by voting in the Board of Trustees election. The next Board composition might be giving attention to software development. The election closes on 6 September at 23:59 UTC. View candidate statement videos and Vote Here. MB 03:59, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Growth team newsletter #22
Welcome to the twenty-second newsletter from the Growth team!
Newcomers tasks reach the 500,000 edits milestone — more data publicly available
As of the last week of June 2022, the newcomers of the world have completed over 500,000 newcomer tasks. In other words, newcomers have made over half a million Wikipedia edits via Growth’s “Suggested Edits” module.
- About 30% of those edits were completed on mobile devices.
- Usage continues to increase; in June 2022 almost 50,000 newcomer tasks were completed.
We have added some new data to Grafana. You can now check the number of edits and reverts by task types, or the number of questions asked to mentors. You can filter the data by wiki.
If you have any questions, or there is more data you want access to, please let us know.
Ongoing projects and explorations
We are continuing our work on our new project, Positive Reinforcement. User testing of initial Positive Reinforcement designs was just completed. Interviews were conducted in Arabic, English, and Spanish. The outcome has been published on the Positive Reinforcement page. We are now utilizing user testing feedback along with prior community feedback to iterate and improve designs.
We are exploring the idea of a Copy Edit structured task. We have tested copy edits in Wikipedia articles for arwiki, bnwiki, cswiki, eswiki (Growth pilot-wikis) and enwiki with two different methods: LanguageTool and Hunspell. We will share more details here and on the associated Copy Edit page once the evaluation is complete.
Add an image was utilized at GLAM events in Argentina, Mexico, and Chile. For an overview of what was learned from these events, read: #1Pic1Article I: how Latin American heritage experts added images to Wikipedia (in English).
Experiments analysis
Add a Link Experiment Analysis has been published. The most important points are:
- Newcomers who get the Add a Link structured task are more likely to be activated (i.e. make a constructive first article edit).
- They are also more likely to be retained (i.e. come back and make another constructive article edit on a different day).
- The feature also increases edit volume (i.e. the number of constructive edits made across the first couple weeks), while at the same time improving edit quality (i.e. the likelihood that the newcomer's edits aren't reverted).
Newcomer task edit type analysis has been published.
- Communities had expressed concern that newcomers whose initial edits were structured tasks wouldn’t go on to learn how to complete more difficult tasks. The Growth team data scientist conducted a Newcomer task edit type analysis to see if this was indeed the case.
- Results from analysis indicate that this likely isn’t a significant concern. More than 70% of users who start with the easy task "Add a link" also make another task type. Read the full analysis and methodology here.
News for mentors
A new system for the mentors list
The configuration of the mentors list will change over the next weeks. In the future, mentors will sign up, edit their mentor description and quit using Special:MentorDashboard. This new system will make the development of new features for mentors much easier.
At the moment, the mentor list is a simple page anyone can edit, unless it’s protected. With the new page, mentors will be able to edit only their own description, while administrators will be able to edit the entire mentors' list if needed.
The deployment will happen first at the pilot wikis, then at all wikis. Existing lists of mentors will be automatically converted, no action will be needed from the mentors. [5][6]
Mentors will be informed about the next steps soon, by a message posted on the talk page of existing Mentor lists.
Learn more about this new structured page on mediawiki.org.
A tip for mentors
Did you know that mentors can filter their mentees' changes at Special:MentorDashboard (and star the ones that require attention)? This feature helps to keep an eye on newcomers' edits, helping mentors to fix minor details, and encourage them if necessary.
And did you know that mentors have special filters to highlight their mentees' edits at Special:RecentChanges? Look for the following filters in RecentChanges: Your starred mentees, Your unstarred mentees.
Other improvements
Some improvements will be made to the mentor dashboard in the coming weeks:
- While we now offer some options for mentors to take a break, the option to quit mentoring was not easy to find. This will be improved. [7]
- Mentors at wikis using FlaggedRevisions will have a way to discover their mentees' pending edits. [8]
- Dashboard discovery for new mentors will be improved. [9]
Recent changes and fixed bugs
- We moved to a new Image Suggestions API. This new API will allow us to deploy Add an Image to more wikis. [10]
- Starting September 19, a few more wikis now offer Add an image to newcomers. These wikis are Greek Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia. [11]
- Add an image has been disabled for a few days due to technical issue. "Add an image" added a blank line instead of an image. This has been fixed. [12]
- In order to know if Special:EditGrowthConfig is used by communities, we now instrument page loads and saves of configuration. [13]
Have a question? A suggestion?
Please let us know! You can also read our FAQ page.
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Regarding the draft
Dear Paul2520,
I hope you are having a great time. Thank you for editing my draft. Is it possible for you to review the draft as a second reviewer? Thank you. Scholartop (talk) 14:06, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, Scholartop. I could potentially review the article, but I would defer to Dodger67 who just reviewed it yesterday, to see if your changes since then address his concerns. = paul2520 💬 15:15, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Dear Paul2520,
- Thank you so much for your reply. I have discussed with dear Dodger67 on his talk page after applying his comment. He told me that it is better to see the suggestion of a second reviewer as well. I do appreciate your contribution in advance to reviewing the draft. Scholartop (talk) 15:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Scholartop: Okay, I'll try to take a look in the next couple of weeks. = paul2520 💬 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for accepting the review request. I will try my best to improve it during this time. Thank you. Scholartop (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Scholartop. I've debated how to reply; I made some small edits as you saw, and have reviewed a few references (unfortunately quite a few are behind paywalls, and I don't currently have access to an academic library). Although I follow the method and example, the article is definitely a dense read, and I am concerned that this draft fits with Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not § Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal, especially points 6–8.
- My suggestion is to open a discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Engineering to seek thoughts from editors who have worked in those projects. Although from my perspective it seems OPA has enough references backing up the argument that it is notable (at least from the perspective of the relevant academic community/communities), I haven't really worked with creating Wikipedia articles with highly academic subject matter. If you haven't already, you may look at other articles from the categories you've identified for this article. Do they have cases of mentioning numerous "So-and-so et al. tried this" and "Other researcher et al. said this"?
- I've read other technical articles like this draft in the past, and I've really liked when the wording is more like "This technique has been used in the field of aeronautics[1][2] and marine biology.[3][4][5]" rather than the more specific literature review that is dense with author names. Does this make sense? More of a prose focus that could help make the draft more understandable to the general reader.
- I hope this is helpful. I'm definitely borderline about personally approving the draft, but would feel more comfortable with more eyes from editors part of relevant WikiProjects.
- Thanks for your diligence, plenty of reliable sources, and enthusiasm to contribute to Wikipedia! = paul2520 💬 17:00, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Dear Paul2520,
- I hope all is well and you do not mind the intrusion. Please accept my apology for putting demand on your time. Thank you so much for your valuable comments and edits. I've studied all references one by one and added them objectively to this draft. When I mention a reference, I'm 100% sure it is correct. Please feel free to check all references. About using "et al.", I tried my best to be accurate and prepare a page which is useful for the readers. After reading this page, any user can understand the story. There are some other pages which used this term a lot as well. The readers of this page are more from the academic world. Actually, it is difficult to find a reviewer who is an expert in this field exactly. This is my first article and put much effort into it. If possible for you, please complete the review (I respect your decision and almost going to give up to publish this article on Wikipedia). I will reply to any question with reference. Scholartop (talk) 17:19, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Scholartop: the thing is that you can't restrict readership... you really need to think of the audience more broadly, given Wikipedia's reach.
- I do think that posting to the WikiProjects I've identified is the best next step.
- I don't want you to give up on contributing! It's impressive work you put in. Once the article is published, I encourage you to explore Wikipedia:Did you know, as it should meet the requirements to be nominated = paul2520 💬 17:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your suggestion. To be honest, I feel that the most part of Wikipedia and its submissions are about biography. Before you, I asked so many reviewers to review this work and only one person did it for me. However, Thank you for your effort on the draft. Sorry for disturbing you. Scholartop (talk) 18:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Scholartop: In general, WikiProjects are better places to solicit help like this than randomly reaching out to individual editors. It made sense that you asked Dodger67 directly, as he had done the initial review.
- It looks like both of those WikiProjects are active, so you should expect some feedback. If you don't hear back in a few weeks, feel free to reach out again.
- Again, thanks for all your hard work! = paul2520 💬 18:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much. Scholartop (talk) 18:13, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your suggestion. To be honest, I feel that the most part of Wikipedia and its submissions are about biography. Before you, I asked so many reviewers to review this work and only one person did it for me. However, Thank you for your effort on the draft. Sorry for disturbing you. Scholartop (talk) 18:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Dear Paul2520,
- I hope you are doing well. Could you please check the new version? I agreed with you about the Application section and I revised it based on the articles in the same category (for example: Measuring attractiveness by a categorical-based evaluation technique (MACBETH))
- About this comment: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not § Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal
- I have changed the title of the sections and considered the following article which is in the same category: Data envelopment analysis
- I have checked several articles and revised my article based on them. Could you please give me a feedback? Thank you. Scholartop (talk) 07:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Scholartop: I do not see any posts in the relevant WikiProject(s), like the other editors you've reached out to and I have suggested.
- Please do not reach out again directly until you have done this. = paul2520 💬 15:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Scholartop (talk) 16:01, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate your strictness. But I can show you dozens of articles in the same field that cannot meet the minimum standards of Wikipedia. In my opinion, the introduced projects are more technical. On the other hand, each person has a different opinion, and I think it is very difficult to reach a consensus in a large group. Sorry for disturbing you. Scholartop (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure this is a consensus problem. Consensus is not specifically required for new articles, though it is required if an article is suggested for deletion.
- And to be clear, I don't see this as an issue with level of technicality; I simply don't feel that I'm the best person to review or approve this draft.
- I am not sure why you reached out to me individually. I am happy to help newer editors like yourself, but things like article reviews have processes; see Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation. It has a big backlog, so I recommend patience. = paul2520 💬 17:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- You helped me a lot to improve the article. Your behavior is truly professional. Maybe my point of view is wrong. I have reviewed more than 2000 papers in academic filed but no experience on Wikipedia. Of course, refereeing is a voluntary activity and I don't like to disturb you again. I will leave this article with its current situation. Wikipedia has less than 800 reviewers and I checked at least 200 user pages before contacting you. Please forgive me for disturbing you. Have a nice day/night. Scholartop (talk) 17:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words. I know it can be tough to get up to speed as a new editor, so I hope my providing guidance and links to resources/documentation helps.
- I'm impressed that you essentially "reviewed the reviewers." To be honest though, simply submitting the draft for review is all this process takes.
- However, as you might have noticed, I'm actually inactive in that project! I've requested to be made active again, and if that is granted, I will review your article. But going forward, please be patient and submit the article for review, just like is done with other drafts.
- One more thing regarding the current draft: would you please remove the spaces before/between references in the updated section on the draft? = paul2520 💬 17:51, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- I will do it Scholartop (talk) 21:21, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Done Scholartop (talk) 21:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Paul2520 I hope you are having a nice weekend. I've designed and added two figures to the OPA page as well. FYI Scholartop (talk) 16:33, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Paul2520 Please accept my apology for putting demand on your time. Could you please check the revised version? Thank you for your attention. Scholartop (talk) 15:08, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Scholartop: I'm currently traveling. Please be patient; I will take a look when I am home and have time to do so. = paul2520 💬 15:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm patient. After a few days, I have surgery, and I may not be available for a long time. Please accept my apology in advance if I won't reply your messages. Thank you. Have a good journey! Scholartop (talk) 15:34, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Scholartop: Congratulations! The draft is now published! Well done.
- Apologies for the delay. Although I've been on Wikipedia a little bit, I've also had a lot of stuff going on in my personal life.
- You mentioned surgery in your last comment; I wish you a speedy recovery. Feel free to reach out in the future if you need editing help. = paul2520 💬 00:56, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Paul2520 Sorry for late reply, I was absent for a week due to some issues that I told you already. Now I'm almost good. Thank you so much for spending time and improving the work. Please accept my apology if I disturb you. Actually, I'm interested in your work about archiving the references. I found that how to do it manually but it takes much time. Not sure you do it manually and I'll ask you about that in future if possible. Thank you. Have a nice day/night. Scholartop (talk) 06:05, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm patient. After a few days, I have surgery, and I may not be available for a long time. Please accept my apology in advance if I won't reply your messages. Thank you. Have a good journey! Scholartop (talk) 15:34, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Scholartop: I'm currently traveling. Please be patient; I will take a look when I am home and have time to do so. = paul2520 💬 15:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- You helped me a lot to improve the article. Your behavior is truly professional. Maybe my point of view is wrong. I have reviewed more than 2000 papers in academic filed but no experience on Wikipedia. Of course, refereeing is a voluntary activity and I don't like to disturb you again. I will leave this article with its current situation. Wikipedia has less than 800 reviewers and I checked at least 200 user pages before contacting you. Please forgive me for disturbing you. Have a nice day/night. Scholartop (talk) 17:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for accepting the review request. I will try my best to improve it during this time. Thank you. Scholartop (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Scholartop: Okay, I'll try to take a look in the next couple of weeks. = paul2520 💬 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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Books & Bytes – Issue 52
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Issue 52, July – August 2022
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- ASHA
- Loeb
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92.237.122.247 (talk · contribs) (now blocked) changed a number of dates that are obviously in error here just before you added a number of archive links. I can not undo the anon's edits without removing your edits. Do you wish to fix this? Thank you Adakiko (talk) 22:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Adakiko feel free to revert. Thanks for reaching out. = paul2520 💬 22:19, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- It wasn't that hard to restore the dates, so fixed w/o reverting. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 22:28, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Request for review
Hello, hope you are doing great. Can you please review Draft:Krishand RK? Thanks 116.68.97.109 (talk) 17:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. I see you submitted the draft. That's the process by which you request a review. Please be patient and await someone reviewing it.
- In general, I don't want direct requests like this at this time. = paul2520 💬 15:15, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
New show nearby articles feature on Kartographer maps
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You receive this message because you have voted for show nearby or related articles in maps in this year’s Community Wishlist Survey.
I am happy to let you know that soon it will be possible to automatically display nearby articles in a map on Commons and other Wikimedia projects using Kartographer. This feature is one of the improvements to Kartographer the Technical Wishes Team from Wikimedia Germany has been working on. Each Kartographer generated map in full-screen mode is now given a new “Show nearby articles” button at the bottom. It can be used to show and hide up to 50 geographically close articles.
The deployment of this feature is planned for 12 October on a first group of wikis. After the first feedback phase, more wikis will follow. Read more on our project page. Your feedback and comments to our open questions on this feature are very much appreciated on this discussion page. Thank you! -- Timur Vorkul (WMDE) 15:48, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello Paul2520,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.
Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.
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WikiCup 2022 November newsletter
The 2022 WikiCup has drawn to a close with the final round going down to the wire. The 2022 champion is
Lee Vilenski (1752 points), who won in 2020 and was runner up in both 2019 and last year. In the final round he achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on cue sports. He was closely followed by- Bloom6132 (1732), who specialised in "In the news" items and DYKs, and who has reached the final round of the Cup for the past three years. Next was
- BennyOnTheLoose (1238), another cue sports enthusiast, also interested in songs, followed by
Muboshgu (1082), an "In the news" contributor, a seasoned contestant who first took part in the Cup ten years ago. Other finalists were
Sammi Brie (930), who scored with a featured article, good articles and DYKs on TV and radio stations,
Kavyansh.Singh (370), who created various articles on famous Americans, including an FA on Louis H. Bean, famed for his prediction of election outcomes. Next was
PCN02WPS (292), who scored with good articles and DYKs on sporting and other topics and
Z1720 (25) who had DYKs on various topics including historic Canadians.
During the WikiCup, contestants achieved 37 featured articles, 349 good articles, 360 featured article reviews, 683 good article reviews and 480 In the news items, so Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors. Well done everyone! All those who reached the final round will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or the overall leader in this field.
- Lee Vilenski wins the featured article prize, for a total of 6 FAs during the course of the competition and 3 in the final round.
- Kavyansh.Singh wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 2.
Adam Cuerden wins the featured picture prize, for 39 FPs during the competition.- Z1720 wins the featured article reviewer prize, for 35 FARs in round 4.
Epicgenius wins the good article prize, for 32 GAs in round 1.
SounderBruce wins the featured topic prize, for 4 FT articles in round 1.- Lee Vilenski wins the good topic prize, for 34 GT articles in round 5.
- Sammi Brie wins the good article reviewer prize, for 71 GARs overall.
- Sammi Brie wins the Did you know prize, for 30 DYKs in round 3 and 106 overall.
- Bloom6132 wins the In the news prize, for 106 ITNs in round 5 and 289 overall.
Next year's competition will begin on 1 January and possible changes to the rules and scoring are being discussed on the discussion page. You are invited to sign up to take part in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to have a good turnout for the 2023 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners and finalists, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 53
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Issue 53, September – October 2022
- New collections:
- Edward Elgar
- E-Yearbook
- Corriere della Serra
- Wikilala
- Collections moved to Library Bundle:
- Ancestry
- New feature: Outage notification
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Growth team newsletter #23
Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!
Highlights
- Mentorship: We released the new structured mentor list to all wikis. This change makes mentorship easier to setup, manage and use.
- Positive reinforcement: An improved impact module is available for testing.
Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test
The goal of the Growth team is to encourage newcomers to try editing for the first time, and encourage them to keep editing. We want to increase newcomers' motivation by showing them how impactful their edits are.
Newcomers have access to an impact module; you can find yours at Special:Impact. The revised impact module provides new editors with more context about their impact. It will display the number of edits, the number of thanks received, the last time they edited, the number of consecutive days they edited, and the number of views for the articles they edited.
This module will soon be available at our pilot wikis starting December 1. You can already test this new module at Beta Wikipedia. For safety reasons, do not use your regular account and password at Beta wiki. Create a new, specific account for this wiki, with a different password.
Structured tasks: improvements based on patroller feedback
After the deployment of Structured tasks, we received feedback from various communities regarding how patrollers of recent changes were feeling overwhelmed by an increase in edits to check, and how some edits were poor quality or of poor relevance.
We made several improvements based on the feedback we received. Several points of improvement have already been addressed:
- Patroller fatigue:
- By default, newcomers can complete up to 25 "add a link" tasks and 25 "add an image" tasks per day. If patrollers are overburdened, each community can use Special:EditGrowthConfig to lower that limit.
- Quality of edits: what constitutes a "quality edit" is not a well defined concept. We initiated a discussion and summarized our findings. We also worked on the following improvements:
- Add a Link
- Underlinked articles are now prioritized, so it's less likely that newcomers are adding links to articles that are already have a lot of links.
- The confidence score was increased, so suggestions are more likely to be accurate.
- The default number of suggested links per article has been lowered to 3. This can be changed at Special:EditGrowthConfig. Communities can also exclude articles containing certain templates or categories from being suggested.
- Add an Image
- Lists will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
- Disambiguation pages will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
- We have many further improvements we plan to make to "add an image" in early 2023. [14]
- Add a Link
The Positive Reinforcement project will also address some of the concerns around encouraging newcomers to progress to higher value edits. The Growth team will soon work on strategies geared at "Leveling up" newcomers so they progress from easy to more difficult tasks.
Recent changes
- All Wikipedias now have the same onboarding experience. Previously, at a few wikis, 20% of new accounts didn't get the Growth features when they created their account. These 20% of new accounts were used as a control group, in order to know if the Growth features were changing newcomers' behavior. Experiments have shown that Growth features improve activation and retention, and as we want to provide the same onboarding experience at all Wikipedias, we have decided to remove the control groups. We will utilize control groups when testing new features, and German Wikipedia keeps a control group at their request. [15]
- The quality score for "add a link" suggestions will change. We will suggest less links for each article, but they will be more accurate. We will first deploy it at our pilot wikis, and then to all other wikis where this feature is available. [16][17]
- Growth's features FAQ has been updated and expanded. This page centralizes all the information about Growth features. We invite you to read it, and, if you can, to translate it.
News for mentors
- All Wikipedias can now setup and manage a mentorship program in an easier way.
- We changed the process to make it more reliable, easier to improve and easier to use.
- Wikipedias where mentorship hasn't been enabled yet can turn mentorship on following a new process. When done, mentors can sign-up by visiting
Special:MentorDashboard. - Wikipedias where the list of mentors already existed have been converted to the new system.
- A new special page —
Special:ManageMentors— now displays the list of mentors. This page can be transcluded on any other page. There are also new processes to signup as a mentor or to quit mentorship, and we improved community mentorship management.
- The Mentor dashboard's "Your mentees" module will have a new footer, called "Recent changes by your mentees". This footer will include a link to Recent changes, where mentors can see only edits made by their own mentees. [18]
Deployments
- Add a link has been deployed to a 5th round of wikis. [19]
Improving this newsletter
We plan to have a more regular newsletter, every two months. We also want to know if the current format suits you! Let us know what you like, what you like less and your suggestions of improvements: leave us a comment, in your preferred language.
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