User talk:Polygnotus

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Do you have the query for User:Polygnotus/Data/FeaturedArticleCounts

Hey, Do you by chance have the query you used to generate that file? I, @Hey man im josh and @Novem Linguae were discussing the possibility of throwing together a toolforge tool based on citehighlighter and it would be nice to be able to show users the number/a list of similar FA/GA class pages that use similar sources. Sohom (talk) 00:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Sohom Datta:! I didn't use a query. Because there are so few of them I just made API calls overnight. I then extracted the URLs, extracted the domainnames, and did the counting in Java. Is it possible to see that conversation somewhere? Or was it on IRC/Discord? It sounds interesting. I may or may not have some ideas. Polygnotus (talk) 10:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Polygnotus: It was a casual conversation in the main English wiki discord channel on the en wiki discord server.

I've long loved the idea of putting a URL into a web site to see whether Wikipedia interprets it as RS, and that was the focus of the discussion. Novem was open to the idea, but they wanted to see that it was desired by enough people.

I like the premise of searching and finding "Canada123 is considered reliable source based on WP:CANADA and RSP page." Or something similar. I think it could be a very useful tool, but I'm still working on the idea of how/where to propose it. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh The first part should be easy to implement thanks to User:Novem_Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter/SourcesJSON.js. Connecting it to a exact RSN discussion or RSP/VG entry might take a bit more work. Sohom (talk) 13:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely. I vaguely mentioned the idea of accepted / trusted volunteers who could add the relevant links. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Sohom Datta: I still have the code used of course and I'd be happy to run it again. It has been undeleted and moved to User:Polygnotus/Data/FeaturedArticleCounts (it is not very outdated because FAs are pretty rare, back then there were 6538 and currently there are 6566). My conversation with Novem Linguae is here. Novem Linguae added a bunch of them to SourcesJSON. User:Headbomb/unreliable also exists but I haven't really looked at it. GreenC keeps track of basically every URL on Wikipedia IIRC. Polygnotus (talk) 18:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Sohom Datta: My idea would be:

• Make a API with 5 endpoints
  1. voteup
  2. votedown
  3. trustedvoteup (which would count for, lets say, +5 votes)
  4. trustedvotedown (ditto, but -5)
  5. list
• Make a javascript that:
  1. adds up and down arrows to each source. Click the up arrow to vote that a source is reliable, down arrow for unreliable.
  2. colors the source a shade of green or red depending on the amount of amount of up or downvotes if there are more than x up or downvotes
  3. Shows how many ratings this source has.
• Give the trusted people the ability to authenticate to the API and then rate sources.

I made a list of the top 10.000 most often referenced domains, make a table sorted by number of occurences where people can easily rate them.

What do you think? Polygnotus (talk) 23:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

A beer for you!

I've never considered looking at the Spam block list log. Nice WP-fu! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thank you! It is one of those forgotten log pages that can be quite handy. Polygnotus (talk) 07:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar for you

		The Original Barnstar
		In acknowledgement of your dedication to the WP mission, and your good humor in the face of aspersions, displayed at Luis Elizondo. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Polygnotus (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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Sorry I just disturb you.

But, I have now an acount so we can talk more easily! Grubisz440 (talk) 07:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

@Grubisz440: Hiya! Welcome to Wikipedia! Polygnotus (talk) 08:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Race and intelligence

The ex-neighbour in question

Hello Polygnotus, I just wanted to drop by to tell you about an interesting template I recently found. Expanding it could theoretically allow users to navigate this confusing content area a lot more comfortably. Maybe you have some ideas as to its potential content.
Kind regards
Biohistorian15 (talk) 13:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

@Biohistorian15: Hiya! I changed the section header because we tend to use the %month% %year% format when telling someone off. I believe the race and intelligence stuff is rather boring because unfortunately there is currently only one living human race (although I do suspect one of my former neighbors might belong to the homo floresiensis). And we do not yet have a reliable way to measure all facets of intelligence. I read a bit of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and intelligence but it was very boring. I would recommend the fascinating study of animal intelligence instead. Polygnotus (talk) 03:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

No worries. And I have met my fair share of people worthy of their very own taxonomic adage as well, haha.

Maybe you know somebody else to the (relative) left of these issues that is as charitable as you mostly were in our few past interactions. I just don't want to edit the thing for a long time with my sole POV involved... and then be called a POV pusher by uninvolved bystanders lol. Biohistorian15 (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@Biohistorian15: I think that people who agree with me are very boring. My wife has yet to agree with me.

I (try to) remember the usernames of people who disagreed with me in interesting ways, or even convinced me, and of those who are experts on certain topics.

Unfortunately I don't know the political leanings of the overwhelming majority of users so I assume that everyone else is a despicable centrist anarcho-nazi-communist. You could ask @Slatersteven: if he is interested in this kinda stuff, but be warned, you should read their userpage first! But I would not describe him as charitable, because that might offend him. I have strong opinions on certain subjects, and I am very confident that those opinions are correct, but I never edit the related articles. I don't even read them. This is good for my mental health, saves me a lot of time, and it ensures I can laugh at anyone who accuses me of POV pushing. And when a debate doesn't go the way I want it to I can shrug and move on. If I would edit the articles about stuff I am passionate about irl then my passion would be a weakness for me as a Wikipedian. Polygnotus (talk) 03:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

You did pique my curiosity; how would you describe your POV? It is easy to forget that both the left- and right-wing are very diverse. Polygnotus (talk) 06:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to remember Slatersteven's name for future occasions like this, but after the predictable FT/N posting, I'll likely have quite a few dissenters to work with already...

Regarding politics on the matter, my position is actually much more moderate than it might look from the outside, it's ultimately agnostic; but in light of the kinds of hounding I've been through in the past (*people taking old sentence fragments out of context etc.), I can only deliver a passionate monologue if you mail me. Best of wishes, Biohistorian15 (talk) 11:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Doesn't Just Revert, but Helps Out Too

		The Original Barnstar
		Most of the time, when people revert your edits because you didn't follow all ten thousand Wikipedia rules, you don't expect them to help you out and make it right. Not this person. Thanks again. Eido INOUE | 井上エイド 08:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you sir! Polygnotus (talk) 08:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thank you for your response on Teahouse TNM101 (chat) 08:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! I love cookies! Polygnotus (talk) 08:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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