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''Archived discussion for [[June 2010]] from [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates]].''

==June 30==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 30}}
===ITN candidates for June 30===
====[[2010 Oaxaca earthquake]]====
A 6.2 magnitude earthquake hits Oaxaca. - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 09:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
: If there has been no damage and no injuries, they it is probably even not necessary to have an article, a mention in List of 2010 earthquakes would do... --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 12:39, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' and don't be surprised if that article ends up at AfD sooner or later. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 12:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Opppose''' No serious injuries and apparently no damage.  [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 15:47, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[German presidential election, 2010]]====
Indirect elections to replace [[Horst Köhler]] who resigned in May - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 15:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:When it is updated to reflect first round of voting. (how come the DAX has not responded negatively?)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 15:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Wait''' for the second round, as usual. Off topic, why would the DAX care? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:53, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j8YEhOT8PBBYilOrHOw-AlnQKDxwD9GLM0VG0 AP] The second round failed to provide the necessary majority for [[Christian Wulff]] so it has gone to a, and final, third round (where a plurality is sufficient for election).  It would be nice for the article to detail these events before posting - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 16:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Agreed. Are all the rounds on the same day?
:::As an aside, generally market sentiment is not going to like instability and several global media outlets are speculating about the stability Merkel's government after this. (should put this analysis in the article too)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 16:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
: [[Christian Wulff]] has been elected. As soon as the election article is updated, this is ready to post. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 19:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::Agreed. The results appear to have been added to the article, but there's no prose. I've uploaded and protected [[:File:800px-Christian Wulff 2008-04-17 ITN.jpg|an image]] that can go up when the article does. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Probably a better image is on Commons [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Landtag_Niedersachsen_DSCF7769.JPG]. --[[Special:Contributions/91.32.96.93|91.32.96.93]] ([[User talk:91.32.96.93|talk]]) 19:58, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Posted. Feel free to choose a photo. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Agricultural Bank of China]] IPO====
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10457620.stm (BBC)]. This bank's [[initial public offering]] begins today and will become the world's largest with the 14% stake up for sale being worth £15.3bn ($23 bn).  The article says the final share price will be fixed on 7 July so it might be worth waiting until then.  I am putting it up here for comment first - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 09:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::When the details are fixed we can discuss this for ITN (or discuss improvement on its talk page)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 15:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 29==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 29}}
===ITN candidates for June 29===
====Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir marriage====
A [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37980907/ns/world_news-europe/ world first] for national leaders? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support:''' If it is ''truly'' a world first. What to link to? [[Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir]], there we go! And it seems her bio is up to date. [[user:220.101.28.25|'''--220.101''']] '''([[User talk:220.101.28.25|talk]])''' <sup>[[Special:Contributions/220.101.28.25|\Contribs]]</sup> 06:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support''' if its a world first - which seems likely. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 07:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*The article will require more on the marriage before it can go up, but it's a pretty reasonable state. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  07:57, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' First LGBT country leader to marry in office. Significant milestone in the history of LGBT culture. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 09:25, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'''. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 09:58, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Strong oppose'''. Private matter for the people concerned, with no wider implications. Negligeable coverage in other media. We should have an embargo on same-sex marriage stories until they are made legal in the [[Vatican City State]]. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 10:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::Well it is a marriage of a head of state while in office. The same-sex element just makes it more unique, but I don't think we really have a clear consensus yet on royal/political weddings. Regardless, the article needs more work if it's to go up. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  11:39, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Or, how about waiting until the [[Pope|Sovereign of Vatican City]] gets married, then we put up another marriage?  Unlike HRH Victoria's a few weeks ago, this is a mere head of government, and not a new "marriage", merely a transformation of terms as the law changed.  Put me down as an oppose, I guess. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 12:45, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Physchim's point about a lack of media coverage.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 14:58, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::[[Same-sex marriage]] is not legal in Iceland. What are the details on this? Needs more of the controversy to be worthy of this. Marriages of heads of state (non-royal) are not usually ITN-worthy.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 15:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Same-sex marriage in Iceland was legalized last <s>Sunday</s> Monday [http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/?cat_id=16567&ew_0_a_id=364331], and Jóhanna took the opportunity to convert her pre-existing civil union into a marriage [http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/?cat_id=16567&ew_0_a_id=364331]. I agree that marriages of heads of government are not usually ITN-worthy: I'll check for precedents. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 15:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::We '''[[Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/February_2008#February 2|didn't run]]''' the [[Nicolas Sarkozy]] – [[Carla Bruni]] marriage, that is the marriage of a serving Head of State resulting from a relationship started after he was elected. Why should we run the marriage of two people who have long been known as a couple just because one of them is a head of government. Wouldn't that by LGBT-bias? [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 16:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

'''Oppose''' Her becoming PM was the notable milestone, this next step is just a rather logical consequence for someone who was already in a civil union before gay marrigae was legalised. I might support it if the blurb makes it clear that the actual legislation legalising gay marriage was passed under her premiership (iirc we didn't post that? could be wrong) - that is the more general story here, and someone provides some evidence than anyone internationaly has given this significant coverage. It isn't even on the BBC World front right now. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 16:53, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:Likewise '''support ''with caveat''''' that iceland legalized same-sex marriage. (this wasnt posted, its the bigger story)
:Perhaps "[[Same-sex marriage in Iceland|Same-sex marriage]] is legalized in [[Iceland]] making it the [[Status of same-sex marriage|9th country to do so]]" (the addition of the PM is more [[WP:Trivia]] than anything.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 17:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

: After reading the discussion, I lean towards '''oppose'''. We pointed her orientation when she became the PM (World's first). As Iceland has legalized same-sex marriages, she can get married, the same as everyone else. Posting the fact that Iceland legalized same-sex marriages is not ITN material IMO, since we've reached a consensus that this is not something very special in the Western world anymore. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 17:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' per Tone and Physchim. It's not really that important. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|<span style="color:#FFBF00">Nominate!</span>]]</sup> 18:41, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::We posted it before. I forget which country (portugal?)
::Not so with the west, would be a big deal if the usa does it nationally though. im mean, A law like that in the [[CSA|south]]...? ;)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 23:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

====President of Hungary====
* [[Pál Schmitt]] is elected President of Hungary. President is the head of state, though in Hungary the position is elected by the parliament. But, Schmitt is also two time gold Olympic medallist! (the article needs some update, though). --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**'''Tentative support''' I'm having a crack at updating the article now. This is a new Head of State - but does the fact that the position is largely ceremonial affect our judgement here? --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 20:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::We usually post any change of Head of State, if the article is updated. It's something of an ITN tradition! [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:29, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:22, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:29, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
: Ready to post. Suggestion for the blurb or should I just go with ''[[Pál Schmitt]] is elected President of Hungary''? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:: How about "Former Olympic champion..." to give it some flavour? --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 08:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  08:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::I posted on the errors in the news page, but the link to the election is not there. it ought to have been there.::We usually only put thsi up after taking office (heard that arguement used here before). What happened? He becomes pres in August.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 15:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::No, we usually post once the result of the election has become clear thorough official sources or multiple other [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. We make a slight exception for prime ministers in [[Westminster system]] countries, who are not described as PM until they have been duely appointed, but this is not a big practical difference. Westminster system countries appoint a new prime minister very quickly after the election, other non-presidential systems wait for approval from some other body (as do many presidential systems, including the U.S.); with elections under the Westminster system, we have to change the blurb while it still appears on the Main Page, with other systems we just announce the result of the election and any subsequent change of government. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 15:42, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Cool, but as an aside i've done a bigger update of the election page so that can go up on ITN.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 16:50, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

====Maldivian cabinet resignations====
Well this is certainly big news (and a first anywhere i might think). If there is such an article with expanded details i think it would warrant an ITN placement. Perhaps on the last elections page? (as an "Aftermath" subsection or something of the sort) Or [[Politics of Maldives]][[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] &lt;[[User_talk:Lihaas|talk]]&gt; 19:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
: Support, in principle. Has the PM resigned as well? In such case, his article could be the focus one. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'''. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:22, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:''Comment''. No PM, the Maldives have a presidential system, and the President has not resigned. [[Politics of the Maldives]] seems to be the article to focus on for the moment. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I see. There need to be some update to the article and then we can go with: The cabinet of Maldives resigns, leaving the president to do (...?). --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Romanian floods]]====
- At least 16 deaths - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 11:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Now '''19 fatalities''' - [http://www.realitatea.net/19-morti-si-mii-de-gospodarii-afectate--in-urma-inundatiilor-vezi-imagini-din-elicopter_720892.html] - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 16:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::I would probably support this if the article was brought up to a decent length - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 18:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Update - 21 deaths - I complete with some info. - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 18:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' this seems significant and the article's in decent shape. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 18:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: '''Support'''. (too many floods this month, but we can't help here...) --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: '''Comment:''' References need improvement. I'd prefer more and there are also unreferenced quotes in the article. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|<span style="color:#FFBF00">Nominate!</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::'''Support'''. Don't forget to consider the Chinese landslide (107 trapped) as well, but this is also a significant flood. 2010 could become the year of floods, earthquakes, and oil. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 22:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::: '''Support'''. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*Could someone format those bare URLs into proper citations and give the article a quick tidy up for aesthetics, please? Once that's done, I'm ready to post. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  05:19, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::Can anybody help, refs was resolved...ready for post? - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 20:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I hate to be a pain, but I'd like to see publication (like BBC News or ''The Guardian'' or ''The New York Times'') and access dates at least, then I'll be happy to post. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  20:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::::+BBC, resolved [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10465678.stm] - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 20:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::All the references are now properly formatted. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 20:41, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*Thanks guys. '''Posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  20:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

====ECFA is signed between China and Taiwan====
[[Economic Cooperation Framework Agreement]] Landmark free trade deal by China (PRC) and Taiwan (ROC) will be signed today. This is a very significant deal with major implications. Many news reports [http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-28/china-draws-taiwan-into-economic-embrace-with-first-trade-pact.html] [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703964104575334273062486824.html]  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.65.23.252|76.65.23.252]] ([[User talk:76.65.23.252|talk]]) 01:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:'''Support''', top story on the Economist. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 02:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
: The article looks good, '''support'''. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Strong support'''. Agreement with far-reaching implications for the relations of both countries with the rest of the world. I'd like to see some mention in the article of the recent protests in Taiwan: I'll add a sentence or two myself later, if no one else gets there first. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 09:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*Anyone care to give me a good blurb? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  09:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, nightmare WikiPolitical sensitivities to watch out for, but I'll give it a go:
*The [[People's Republic of China]] and the [[Republic of China]] sign the '''[[Economic Cooperation Framework Agreement]]''', intended to boost trade across the [[Taiwan Strait]]. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 11:55, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, '''posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  12:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

====Alleged Russian spies arrested====
I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but this is the top story on the BBC's front page, "world", "Americas" and "Europe" pages, suggesting it has some significance. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10442223.stm BBC News]. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:22, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:I've nominated the roundup, with an article largely based on reporting in ''[[The New York Times]]''. This is my first ITN nomination, so please be gentle if I've missed any protocol. I will review the BBC article for additional material. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 01:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Do you mean there is an article? If so, could you link it. :) [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I had posted [[Illegals Program]] above, but it seems to have been moved. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 01:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It was already listed on the 28th, and I readded it below. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 01:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, I see what you mean now- you added it to the current events portal, which is transcluded below, but is actually a different page. That explains the confusion, sorry! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::From  a quick glance, the article appears to be just about sufficient for ITN standards. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:55, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:It is an arrest, not a conviction. The presence of the words "alleged" and "arrested" are worrying. I think the convictions are usually posted if significant enough though (sounds like they would be in this case). --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 02:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::The arrests themselves aren't the story, more the spying and the potential impact on US-Russia relations. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''oppose''' Crystal Ball to speculate now. Let's see the reactions from both sides (although al jazeera made comparisons between obama's june meeting with medvedev and "reset" and this coming now). No convictions even, if and when that happens it may mean something.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 12:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 28==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 28}}
===ITN candidates for June 28===

====Mexican gubernatorial (governor) candidate assassinated====
Rodolfo Torre Cantu, the leading candidate for governor of a Mexican state, was assassinated today. This is the biggest assassination in Mexico in 16 years. The story is getting some play in U.S. news sources. However, the lack of an article on Torre might indicate a lack of interest in him among English Wikipedia readers. Even the Spanish Wikipedia article has barely been updated since the news broke (it still talks about him in the present tense). 

What do people think about this? I think it's certainly newsworthy and important. I don't know how much longer I'm going to stay awake (I'm quite exhausted right now), but at the least I can translate the (mediocre) Spanish article for the English Wikipedia. We could then expand the section on his death. On the other hand, if the content isn't great, and it's not likely to be improved by the community, it might not be the best thing to feature on ITN. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 00:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. Especially if it is the biggest in 16 years. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 00:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::An interesting one. On one hand, he was only a candidate and it's not like he was a presidential candidate and gang violence is sadly far from uncommon in Mexico, however this is obviously more significant than most of the other violence of the last few months, so I'm not sure one way or the other. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::however i do not see an article ''yet''. the entire article would be mainly prose with little chance of getting updated once its up. '''support''' but im afraid article wont be that great unless someone can translate it over. -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 01:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::The Spanish article looks like nothing more than a candidate website bio, as is typical for many politicians. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 01:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::The article exists as [[Rodolfo Torre Cantú]]. ----[[User:Morenooso|moreno oso]] ([[User talk:Morenooso#top|talk]]) 09:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::It possibly ties into [[Jesús Manuel Lara Rodríguez]]. It has been suggested in one of the CCN articles to Lara and by [[Univision]] that with two weeks to go to the elections, the [[Mexican Drug War]] cartels are sending a message to [[Felipe Calderon]]. ----[[User:Morenooso|moreno oso]] ([[User talk:Morenooso#top|talk]]) 09:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:*'''Support''' - This is getting lots of airtime on [[Univision]] as indicated. Basically before this, the cartels had stuck to local politicians and police chiefs = all the while, wiping out wholesale police forces. It's thought now by bumping off PRI candidates, the elections will be halted or thrown into disarray as the established candidates now have an edge over replacements. ----[[User:Morenooso|moreno oso]] ([[User talk:Morenooso#top|talk]]) 09:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Article seems long enough. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' as above. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry I didn't have a chance to translate it myself. I hit the sack early these days. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  05:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[McDonald v. Chicago]]====
Should we make a mention on this recent Supreme Court decision?[http://www.wgntv.com/news/wgntv-handgun-ban-supreme-court-june28,0,6794280.story] [[User:Truthsort|Truthsort]] ([[User talk:Truthsort|talk]]) 21:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' I was going to propose this myself, but didn't because I felt there'd be objections to having two American items on top.  [[DC v. Heller]], the precedent for McDonald, was posted back in June 2008.  When I was looking around for int'l coverage of Byrd's death, this story was tops on the BBC homepage.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 21:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' local news only really of interest to people who live in Chicago - a basic repeat of the supreme courts earlier ruling on Washington DC's gun laws ([http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/06/gun_control_and_supreme_court source]). -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 21:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''', minor domestic ruling with little international interest. Plus, remember the contents of the BBC News front page ''change'' depending on where you are viewing it from. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:30, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'''. This is not just a Chicago issue -- it applies nationwide to other places with laws against handguns, such as New York City. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Strong oppose'''. Very minor domestic politics. I hate to bring the US bias thing up, but if this had been in the UK or Canada for example (both of whom I believe have much stricter restrictions on firearms), it would be completely shot down. Even in the US, though, the only people this really affects are criminals and the NRA nutters and even then, only in one city. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Weak oppose'''. This does seem like a bit of a domestic issue to me, and the ruling doesn't seem to go beyond the previous DC case (so it's not really earth-shattering new law). On the other hand, we do have lots of readers who are obsessed with guns and explosives and stuff like that, and even more readers who roll their eyes at any mention of U.S. "gun laws", so it might get some interest. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 23:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::There seems to be some misunderstanding about what exactly this case does. In an earlier decision, the court struck down the District of Columbia's ban on handguns, saying that the district, as part of the federal government, cannot ban them outright. However, not all limitations on the federal government also apply to state governments (from the federal perspective, cities are considered part of state governments). In this case, the court expanded its precedent to cover state and local governments. The limitation now applies everywhere in the U.S. Chicago happened to be the defendant in this case, but once the Supreme Court applies such a limitation to one state or local government, it automatically covers all other state and local governments with similar laws. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 00:03, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::As something of an opinion of order (if such a thing exists), I don't think we should be basing decisions of what should be posted based on whether they are of interest to a certain fraction of our readership. Such a system would result in a continuous stream of 'news' on (primarily American) celebrities, sport and 'entertainment' items, and reinforce systemic bias. Our criteria include 'significance', not interest to some fraction of our readership. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Typical systemic bias. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 02:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' It doesn't only affect criminals, also victims of crime. It is mainly notable because the US is an extreme black sheep in the world and everyone else is always watching (and laughing) about these laws. Of more interest than a US FTA even taking into account their economic power '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  02:58, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''.  It will likely affect only those [[Right_to_carry#State_laws|small portions of the country]] which still have draconian, ass-backwards gun laws.  The vast majority of states already protect civil rights at least to the degree specified in the decision.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ligtymn|Ligtymn]] ([[User talk:Ligtymn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ligtymn|contribs]]) 07:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

====[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10433706.stm Chinese landslide]====
- '''100 people trapped''' - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 17:11, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Neutral''', it depends how it works out and while it is a lot of people the rainstorms have already appeared on ITN this month. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 21:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::Is there an article? It's hard to evaluate an ITN nomination without an article. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support'''. Rain is hampering rescue efforts, one body has been found, and the remaining 106 people trapped are feared dead. I have added a paragraph to [[2010 South China floods#Guizhou Province]]. Expand or split into a separate article if necessary. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 22:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}
Switching to '''Support''' if that's the case, and AstroHurricane has put in a lot of work into that article :). -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. Enough people. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Comment'''. I'm going to have to work on that article more later, it looks like 2010 will be a hectic year for all sorts of natural (?) disasters. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 23:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*It could do with a bit more detail before posting. Splitting it into a new article might not be a bad idea, but either way is fine, provided there's a reasonable amount of information. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  09:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Comment'''. I've updated the article, but could not find enough information yet to spilt into a new page. So far, there are 10 dead, 89 missing and feared dead, 8 found alive but never buried, and 1,000 evacuated. For a blurb, how about "A '''[[2010 South China floods#Guizhou Province|landslide]]''' is triggered by [[2010 South China floods|flooding]] in [[Guizhou]] Province, [[China]], trapping 99 people while forcing the evacuation of 1,000 others, and at least 10 bodies have been found". ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 20:54, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

====Kyrgyzstan approves new constitution====
-http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/06/27/kyrgyzstan.constitution/index.html?hpt=T2&fbid=Sek5GGjLan6 <span style="text-shadow:aquamarine 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''[[User:Kubek15|<font color="green">Kubek15</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Kubek15|<font color="red">write</font>]]/[[User:Kubek15/G|<font color="black">sign</font>]]</sup></span> 11:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, please vote... <span style="text-shadow:aquamarine 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''[[User:Kubek15|<font color="green">Kubek15</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Kubek15|<font color="red">write</font>]]/[[User:Kubek15/G|<font color="black">sign</font>]]</sup></span> 15:51, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Voting - Support''' - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 17:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''wait''' until the results are out. Right now i've updated only what little the news is reporting (no exact numbers, etc)(btw- the link to the referendum page is in yesterday nominations) [[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 19:47, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' in principle, but wait until the official results. Is there an article which has been updated? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
* [[Kyrgyzstani constitutional referendum, 2010]] (nominated on the previous day already). The results are there, we need some comments about the results and aftermath and then this should be ready. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. A new constitution is much rarer than a new prime minister of president. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:: We still need some content before we can post that... it would be a pity not to post because it is a big story. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::There. Now, quickly! ;) A new constitution is too important. Suggest: <code> [[Kyrgyzstan]] approves a '''[[Kyrgyzstani constitutional referendum, 2010|new constitution]]'''. </code> or whatever is best. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:41, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Can you give me a slightly more detailed blurb? I'm all for being concise, but 5 words is a little curt. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::::: Posting, slightly modified. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:29, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

====Death of [[Robert Byrd]]====
-Nom - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 09:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' '''[[Robert Byrd]]''', longest-serving [[United States Senate|Senator]] in U.S. history, dies at age 92 - [[Special:Contributions/74.171.71.173|74.171.71.173]] ([[User talk:74.171.71.173|talk]]) 10:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''', but only after a more substantial update (particularly the addition of reactions from colleagues) occurs.  Byrd was the longest-serving and highest-ranked U.S. Senator, third in line to the nation's presidency.  —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 12:11, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*I usually oppose deaths but considering this ends the longest term in US senate history, I '''support'''. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] ([[User talk:Golbez|talk]]) 12:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. We have too many politician's deaths on ITN. I don't think Byrd was as exceptionally notable as we usually require under the death criteria: what did he do that was special, apart from getting elected a lot? After all, getting elected was just his day job. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 12:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::He died while he was third in the line of succession to the Presidency. That seems fairly notable. --[[User:Smashville|'''Smashville''']][[User Talk:Smashville|<sup style="color:#03F">talk</sup>]] 14:05, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Why? We don't usually post the deaths of serving Vice-Presidents (although we might make an exception from time to time), let alone thirds-in-line. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 14:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::We shouldn't consider all VPs equal, same with those third in line. [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 14:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well the Unites States senators can hardly have considered the position of third-in-line to the Presidency to be that transcendential, otherwise they wouldn't have elected a 92-year old to the post! [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 14:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''oppose''' since he died at age of 92. we really have to stop posting deaths at that age unless extremely notable. Way too many deaths getting posted. the top ITN item is already a death of politician. -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 14:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::Why does age matter when they are still in office? --[[User:Smashville|'''Smashville''']][[User Talk:Smashville|<sup style="color:#03F">talk</sup>]] 15:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::: It shouldn't.  It only needs to meet one of the three death criteria, and seeing that he was in high office (as President Pro Tem of the Senate), it easily meets criteria 1.
*'''Strong Support''': Longest serving Member of Congress in history, third in line to the world's most powerful office.--[[User:Duffy2032|&#91;&#91;User: Duffy2032&#124;Duffy2032&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Duffy2032|talk]]) 14:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' there are probably 95+ US Senators who's death I wouldn't consider notable enough. But since he's both the longest serving senator (and longest serving member of congress), and President Pro Tem of the Senate, I think he is notable. [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 14:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::As an aside, it still lacks much of an update.  I'll try and work on it, but for now I'd say it isn't substantial enough.  [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 14:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' as per Duffy2032--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 15:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''<s>Oppose</s>''' unless the same level of notability as in [[Ted Kennedy]] case can be demonstrated. Being third in line for the office does not seem very ITN-worthy by itself, he was not head of state and for consistency, would you consider listing the oldest senator in another country? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 15:43, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::The US isn't your average country.  Half our readers are from the US.  Plus it's the world's largest economy, only superpower, etc.  [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 15:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::: That does not convince me. And I don't want to start another pro/anti US bias debate as those can get pretty nasty. Demonstrating that Byrd received a similar amount of news coverage in non-US media as Kennedy did would convince me, though. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 15:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Btw, what you have just demonstrated is that US is notable ;-) And surely noone objects that. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 16:05, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::LOL.  His death is on the frontpage of [http://www.bbc.co.uk/ bbc.co.uk] (I realize it's the international version, not the British one, but it still show's it's importance).  Also on the frontpage of [http://www.abc.net.au/news/ ABC News (the Aussie one)], [http://www.theglobeandmail.com/ Toronto G&M], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/ The Guardian].  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 16:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Also, on the front page of the German, Spanish, Dutch, Norwegian, and Finnish wikis (all under the heading recent deaths, I assume). Sort of reminds me of when we we're amongst the last to post Kennedy's death. [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 16:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Wikis do not count. But let's say you convinced me. Always good to do some research on the international scale. Changing to '''neutral'''. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 17:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::For the record, I ''would'' support an item about the death of the longest-serving member of another nation's legislature, assuming that an appropriate article update occurred.  —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 17:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' He served longer than any other member of Congress, as the chair of the Appropriations Committee he was the "King of Pork", he was part of the filibuster of the Civil Rights Act, he is responsible for the [[Byrd Rule]], he was Majority Leader of the Senate for 12 years, he wrote a multi-volume history of the Senate. Is that enough? -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 15:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::FWIW, he was also a member of the [[Gang of 14]], and although his membership in the KKK helped propel him into politics, he enthusiastically endorsed Barack Obama near the end of his career. -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 16:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. I'm sure if this was the death of the longest-serving parliamentarian in history, there'd be waves of support coming in. Same rationale applies here. Just about any other senator I wouldn't considering putting on here; even Ted Kennedy I was unsure of. [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#030">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] <sub>[[User:Wizardman/Operation Big Bear|<span style="color:#600">Operation Big Bear</span>]]</sub> 16:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' The man was the longest serving member of the United States legislature ever, his death is certainly notable to the English version of Wikipedia. The death itself is not what's at issue here; it is his life and record of service which is the main cause of his candidacy for ITN. [[[[User:Cwill151|Cwill151]] ([[User talk:Cwill151|talk]]) 16:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)]]
*'''Strong Support'''--[[User:Istcol|Istcol]] ([[User talk:Istcol|talk]]) 16:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Query''' This discussion has been going on for 7 hours and there appears to be consensus in favour of posting. At what point do we close and add? -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 17:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::A sufficient article update has yet to occur.  —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 17:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. I made my way here to find out why his death was not listed. Post it already. <span style="font-family:Cambria;">[[User:Abductive|<span style="color:teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 17:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::A sufficient article update has yet to occur.  —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 17:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree with David. We need more on things like reaction to the death. The material shouldn't be difficult to come by, so it's not asking a lot. I'll post this as soon as the update is sufficient. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:43, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not clear what you are talking about. A quote from the Harry Reid and fellow W.VA senator Rockefellar? -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 17:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Whenever someone extremely notable dies, lots of another notable people come out and pay tribute to them, so a few quotes from other well-known US politicians and other non-US notable people would be good. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:05, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've added Obama, Biden, and Rockefeller. Is that enough for now? -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 18:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::That'll do- if you can find quotes from former POTUSs and possibly international politicians, hat would be ideal, but it's sufficient now imho. Thus, '''posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I agree that this update satisfies our criteria.  —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 18:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' posting once the article has been updated, since international reactions have been pointed out by DC. [[User:Titoxd|Tito<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[WP:FAC|cool stuff]])</sup> 17:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:Belated and almost certainly futile '''oppose'''. Simply not a globally notable person, does not meet the death criteria in my opinion. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::{{ec}} '''Oppose''' though I suspect it will have no effect and I sense a further problem. Byrd's importance here seems to be argued on the basis of him being the longest serving politician, being the third highest ranking after the president and vice-president, and so on. [[Daniel Inouye]] has apparently been named as his successor. He is 85 years old (and good for him). But he might live for many years, he might not. If he does not, will there be a nomination for him as well based upon all the achievements in the opening paragraph of his article? And then who succeeds him? I see no reason for the third most important person in any country to be on ITN and don't know where this is going to lead in terms of nominations. Apart from that, the ITN section is the first and only place I have read of or even casually noticed this man's death today. I thought maybe I had missed it or had not been paying attention. I have just checked the BBC for example (after knowing that the man was dead and expecting to find him there) - there are [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10438332.stm at] least [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10436879.stm two] United States items on the Front Page and no mention of Byrd - one of them is even the latest supreme court nomination. Aljazeera has nothing, not even in the "Americas" section. CBC News - nothing in the "home", "world" or "politics" sections. Just three sites from different parts of the world that I've checked right now. While I recognise that Byrd is very important to the United States I am not convinced about his international importance at all. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 22:05, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:It was on the BBC earlier.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 22:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' per Candlewicke. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Torn'''. On one hand, he was the longest-serving member of Congress. On the other hand, we want to limit deaths on ITN lest it become an obituary service, and Byrd was not nearly the kind of national figure that Ted Kennedy was. But then again, he certainly was a big deal to the people of West Virginia, and I'm sure we have a lot of readers from there. But then again, WV has fewer than 2 million people... and so on. I could go either way on this one. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Leaning support'''. I am generally quite sensitive towards U.S. systemic bias for ITN, and have made numerous stands against it, but this time I have to say that there is no way Algirdas Brazauskas is more notable (or even comes close) when compared to Robert Byrd. Both men died of natural causes. Thus my proposition is that we take off Brazauskas, so we don't make Wikipedia look like a funeral centre for old politicians. As for international media attention, Byrd trumps Brazauskas by far. It's like having the elections of Nauru and Australia next to each other on ITN, let's use some common sense. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 22:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Brazauskas was President from 1993 to 1998 and Prime Minister from 2001 to 2006. He was also his country's first President. He held the two highest political posts in his country for at least 10 years with several years off in between and was still influential at his death. That does not suggest someone who is less notable. What more could Brazauskas do? He certainly wasn't an average leader. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I think comparisons with Brazukas aren't helpful. I believe his death should be on ITN, but comparing his notability with Byrd's is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. While Byrd wasn't well known outside the US, Brazukas was hardly well known in the Anglosphere, but Byrd was influential in American politics up until his death as Brazukas was in Lithuanian politics and I daresay most English Wikipedia readers have a better knowledge of American politics than Lithuaninan. FWIW, I have no conflict of interest as an Englishman who's never heard of either. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)   
::::I agree that the comparisons don't help, but people will always make them.  It's human nature. [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 00:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hope this doesn't get "Woodened."  Time and time again an item will get only objections after it's posted, because people who support it's inclusion don't feel a need to chime in after it's posted (why support something that's already up?)  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 22:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::Although you do have a point, this went up rather quickly (7 hours) after a large number of early support votes. Since most aren't 'regulars' (and I imply no criticism by that) I assume many came here after hearing the news through other outlets. It works both ways - various people see it is missing, disagree, and come here to suggest/support it; and then others see it there, disagree, and come here. Some (the aforementioned 'regulars') would come here and offer their opinion anyway. But I for one do not check the candidates page every few hours during my working day. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Makes sense.  People generally chime in to change something they disagree with (i.e. adding something that hasn't been added yet, or removing something that was).  I think it shows how ITN needs more participation (there are what, a dozen or so "regulars", plus maybe another dozen "observers" who chime in less frequently, plus the smattering of non-regulars).  Maybe it's time to add a link to ITNC to the template (DYK does it).  Of course, this isn't the proper venue discuss it, but I think it's something to consider.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 00:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::That would result in an influx of new participants, but how many of them would be ''informed'' participants (i.e. users who understand that the section isn't a news ticker and is intended to highlight encyclopedia articles updated to reflect recent/current events)?  I suspect that we would receive more feedback along the lines of "OMG, HOW COULD YOU NOT REPORT THIS?!?! IT'S HUGE NEWS!!!!11!!" than anything else.  —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 01:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}
They can just be ignored if they do that, I'd support a link from the homepage. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 19:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Isn't this a wiki?  Don't we use consensus?  If there's consensus for ITN to be a newsticker, than so be it.  And yea, I know the response is [[WP:NOTNEWS]], but doesn't DYK violate [[WP:TRIVIA]] under that same logic.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 20:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' I know it's up already. But this not international news in the slightest. I wonder if any of these "support" votes are from non-Americans. I also wonder how many Americans had even heard of him before his death. My on-the-spot survey (admitedly, of only two Americans) suggests not many. [[User:Kombucha|Kombucha]] ([[User talk:Kombucha|talk]]) 21:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*Late '''support''' as a non-American to hopefully stem the tide of consensus towards this getting pulled. The longest serving member of the world's most recognised legislative body. Clearly a giant of his times. This death is all over the international news. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::"All over international news"... on the BBC News site I have to go to the Americas section and then scroll to the bottom to find anything about it. It's not on the main "World" page and it's certainly not a headline. [[User:Kombucha|Kombucha]] ([[User talk:Kombucha|talk]]) 22:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It has dropped out of the international news rapidly. I read the BBC news website as well and I only learnt about this from Wikipedia. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 00:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - I've read the arguments above, and I know it has already been posted, but I'm not convinced that this sort of posting takes ITN in the right direction (it takes us further down the slippery slope to an obituary postings that started when the death of Ted Kennedy was posted). Do any ITN regulars know whether similar "longest-serving" politicians in other countries get put on ITN or not? I suspect not, but in this case at least I think the focus should have been on the ''office'' and not the person. i.e. update and draw attention to the article on the office, particularly as the incumbent of the office depends on which party is in power (''the most senior senator in the majority party''), so not even the most senior politician in some cases, though he was in this case. I would suggest something like: "US senator [[Daniel Inouye]] becomes '''[[President pro tem of the Senate]]''' following the death of the longest-serving senator [[Robert Byrd]] at the age of 92.". [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 00:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 27==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 27}}
===ITN candidates for June 27===
====[[Burundian presidential election, 2010]]====
First round of the first direct presidential elections since 1993 - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 14:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:Obviously we may not get a result, in which case the second round is on 26 July 2010.  The article needs some work also - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 15:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Considering the fact that all opposition candidates withdrew, it is obvious what the result will be. Still, the article needs to be expanded and then it has my support, in principle. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 16:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It is still technically possible for [[Pierre Nkurunziza]] to lose as there is an option to vote against him.  Though there have been allegations of widespread electoral fraud so it is likely that it won't matter which way the people vote anyway - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 16:43, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

====Elections in Kyrgzstan and Guinea====
I added the wikilinks above, but would wait for the results for publication (also would tweak the Kygrz text above)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 17:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
* We have [[Kyrgyzstani constitutional referendum, 2010]] that is waiting for updates. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 11:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::For reference the Guinea articles are at [[Guinean presidential election, 2010]] and [[Guinean legislative election, 2010]] - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 15:01, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

====Death of [[Algirdas Brazauskas]]====
- [[Lithuania]]n [[politician]], [[President of Lithuania|President]] (1993–1998); [[Prime Minister of Lithuania|Prime Minister]] (2001–2006) - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 07:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
*[[Algirdas Brazauskas]], the first post-Soviet [[President of Lithuania|President]] of [[Lithuania]], dies in [[Vilnius]], aged 77.
** '''Support''' Being the first Lithuanian president following the breakup of the Soviet Union I think makes this notable enough for inclusion. --[[User:Kitch|Kitch]] <sup>([[User talk:Kitch|Talk]] : [[Special:Contributions/Kitch|Contrib]])</sup> 12:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
** '''Support''' - What Kitch said.  [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 15:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' for now. The article simple is not good enough for ITN. There is only one reference, nothing about his death apart from the day and overall, the article is way too short. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 16:33, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
*The article needs some serious work before it could be considered, but a former head of state is certainly notable enough. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:40, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::Much improved now, still needs some expansion (particularly the details of the death (i presume he died of cancer and not something else?)). But i would '''support''' now[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 17:57, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
* '''Support''' notable death.  article looks better--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 22:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

*The timer's red and ITN is looking very stale, so I would ''love'' to get this up, but I can post an article tagged with {{t|update}} and {{tl|citations missing}} and that has only one sentence about his death. It looks ten times better than it did when this was nominated and the latter tag is probably not warranted. I will post this if someone can turn the sentence about his death into a reasonable sized paragraph. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 1:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you! '''Posting''' [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Comet C/2009 R1]]====
[[File:C2009 r1 mcnaught 9 6 10.jpg|100px|right]]

Currently at about magnitude +5, and approaching the sun, while it could brighten to magnitude +2 or +3 by the end of the month. We put up [[Comet Lulin]] on ITN last year when it was at a similar magnitude, but this is currently a morning comet. However, the only problem may be that this article was already listed for [[WP:DYK|DYK]] back on June 16. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 00:50, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:This was nominated about a week ago (see 18 June on [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/June 2010]]), when the consensus was to wait to see if it got really bright. 'Could' isn't enough, and +5 is faint enough that you'd only spot it if you were looking for it. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 11:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Strong Oppose''' Unless it's [[Great Comet|brilliant enough to be easily seen]], like the first [[Comet McNaught]] in 2008, it should not even bear consideration. --[[User:Kitch|Kitch]] <sup>([[User talk:Kitch|Talk]] : [[Special:Contributions/Kitch|Contrib]])</sup> 12:21, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 26==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 26}}
===ITN candidates for June 26===
====[[36th G8 summit]] and [[2010 G-20 Toronto summit]] in Canada====
As per candidate explanation for June 25. G-20 meeting will comprise the heads of state of 19 economically powerful countries, European Union leaders, 7 international organizations (such as the UN and World Bank), and 6 other heads of state (non-G-20 members) invited to the summit--quite an extensive attendance. Both summits are being held one after another (G-20 summit will follow the G8 summit) on this day; G8 ends today while G-20 starts today and continues tommorow. The G-20 summit remains the most important of the two as it has an extended membership, considerable international news coverage, and notable as the most expensive security operation in Canadian history (probably the largest summit held, as per sources outlined in the article in question). G-20 meetings, as per previous meetings, have a profound effect on world economy, as summit discussion relates to top socio-economic issues and the concurrent global economic recession. [[User:Eelamstylez77|Eelam StyleZ]] ([[User talk:Eelamstylez77|talk]]) 05:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:So... why is this listed again? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 12:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::Well, it is a different day. Or are previous candidates still worth posting on ITN the next day? If so then my mistake. [[User:Eelamstylez77|Eelam StyleZ]] ([[User talk:Eelamstylez77|talk]]) 15:42, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Why is there no mention of the G8 on the ITN?([[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 19:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Indeed; the current ITN item should mention both G8 and G20. -'''[[User:M.nelson|M.Nelson]]''' ([[User talk:M.nelson|talk]]) 00:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Firstly, candidates don't become ineligible because they were nominated on the previous day. Second, this has already been posted and is currently on ITN. Tird and finally, I shall add a mention of the G8. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've changed the blurb to include a mention of the G8 as well. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:47, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::The current blurb implies that the two are the same summit; how about something like:
::::::''Leaders of the world's major economies convene at the '''[[36th G8 summit]]''' and '''[[2010 G-20 Toronto summit]]''' in [[Huntsville, Ontario|Huntsville]] and [[Toronto|Toronto, Ontario]], respectively.''
::::::-'''[[User:M.nelson|M.Nelson]]''' ([[User talk:M.nelson|talk]]) 00:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Another option is:
:::::::''Leaders of the [[G8]] and [[G-20 major economies|G-20]] attend summits in '''[[36th G8 summit|Huntsville]]''' and '''[[2010 G-20 Toronto summit|Toronto, Ontario]]''' respectively.''
:::::::-'''[[User:M.nelson|M.Nelson]]''' ([[User talk:M.nelson|talk]]) 00:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Is the gathering of these leaders (as they do on a regular schedule) noteworthy in comparison to the unseen levels of chaos that hit Toronto streets yesterday? NO! - '''[[User:Floydian|<span style="color:#5A5AC5;">ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ</span>]]'''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Floydian|<sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Floydian|<sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢</sub>]] 16:50, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::Agree with mention of both, i also posted a message at errors in "in the news"[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 17:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Also agree. G8 and G-20 should be mentioned together. Also, protests should also be mentioned as they are receiving enough attention from media. A decision of creating a separate article for G-20 protests is currently under consideration (see Toronto summit talk page). On a side note, Toronto should not have Ontario or Canada following it, just like how its written on ITN at the moment. [[User:Eelamstylez77|Eelam StyleZ]] ([[User talk:Eelamstylez77|talk]]) 18:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 25==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 25}}
===ITN candidates for June 25===
====[[36th G8 summit]] and [[2010 G-20 Toronto summit]] in Canada====
Pretty ITN-worthy as the largest economies in the world, with half the world's population at least, meet amidst the current economic re-downturn. (technically G20 starts tomorrow, but i think it can double up here as only a few hours divides the similiar event and it would then have to be edited on the main page)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 12:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' due to both groups' importance, as well as the major controversy over security costs that it has caused in Canada. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 18:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', pretty obvious reasons. G8/G20 meetings were previously ITN candidates. Infact, it's the last important G8 meeting and first G8/G-20 meetings happening back to back. [[User:Eelamstylez77|Eelam StyleZ]] ([[User talk:Eelamstylez77|talk]]) 21:37, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 21:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:''Comment'': Do we have an article to be updated? [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 21:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::[[36th G8 summit]] and [[2010 G-20 Toronto summit]].  [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 22:29, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' per above--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 00:09, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' an important meeting. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 10:51, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as long as the articles are updated to reflect the results of the summits (if there are any!). I suggest we post the G8 once it finishes this evening (and once the article has been updated), and then tweak the blurb to include the G20 when that finishes tomorrow evening. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 12:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 24==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 24}}
===ITN candidates for June 24===
====Singapore's Marina Bay Sands opens====
*'''[[Marina Bay Sands]]''' casino in [[Singapore]] officially opens with a 2-day (June 23 and 24) celebration. Most expensive casino property, largest public cantilever platform, [http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/weekly-travel-agenda-marina-bay-sands-official-opening-2004628.html largest observation deck] (SkyPark). It's in the news throughout Asia. [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1289194/Marina-Bay-Sands-resort-opens-Singapore.html (''Daily Mail'' photos)] [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 22:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' nothing newsworthy about this. Hotels' open all the time, even casinos dont have ITN precedence.([[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 22:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' its just a Casino. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' What Lihaas said.  [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 02:36, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

====Thirteen people killed crossing railway in Spain====
*Thirteen people were killed while '''[[2010 Castelldefels accident|crossing the railway line]]''' at Castellfels when they were hit by a [[High Speed Train]].

Nom by [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]])

::'''Support''' - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 19:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:Death toll now up to 13: not because anyone else has died, but they've only just finished putting the body parts together... [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 22:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''oppose''' nothing especially ITN-worthy. how many people die crossing railway lines a year?[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 22:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)).
::::Not usually twelve at once, and the story has been all over the news (in Europe at least) today. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 22:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Death toll now 13, amended title and blurb accordingly. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 05:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::'''Support'''.  I think it is sufficiently rare to get train accidents on this scale.  The article is looking good as well - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 10:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:''Comment''. I think the scale is unusual for this ''type'' of accident. In Spain, for example, in 2008 (last year for which figures are available), 35 people died crossing railway tracks; two more people died in Catalonia alone in two separate track crossing accidents on  Wednesday evening. But trains ploughing into large groups of people (rather than just individuals) is unusual. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 12:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:*'''Posting''' Timer is yellow, and the article looks sufficient.  [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 16:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

====25th anniversary apology for [[Air India Flight 182]]====
*Relatives of those killed in [[Air India Flight 182]] gather with diplomats and politicians from [[Canada]], [[India]] and [[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]] in [[County Cork|Cork]] to mark the 25th anniversary with a memorial service. [http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0623/airindia.html (RTÉ)] [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10385704.stm (BBC)] [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gBig4I19HEm273vUQd79Bp2rOteA (AFP)]
*[[Stephen Harper]] of Canada apologises for his country's treatment of the dead. [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gwcLaUOEzwuWxDbujUvaTN_TJ1Xw (AFP)] [http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/827792--pm-apologizes-at-air-india-memorial (''Toronto Star'')] [http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=1298519&lang=eng_news (''Taiwan News'')]
**Maybe this should be discussed since a David Cameron apology made it onto the Main Page last week and this directly affects a larger area of the world? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 04:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', although the problems with the article itself still keeps it from being posted. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 05:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Strong oppose'''. The release of the report last week would have been a far better time to post this, but it was not due to the appalling state of the article. It has not been improved since; I see no reason to justify re-nomination, let alone changing the previous decision. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 12:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Neutral'''. I support the posting of a prime-ministerial apology resulting from the findings of this enquiry, but I weakly oppose if the article is still as bad as it was last week (I haven't looked). [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 23:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Isner–Mahut match at the 2010 Wimbledon Championships]]====
Mahut and Isner are currently playing in the "longest tennis match in history" at the [[2010 Wimbledon Championships]]. They have played over 100 games for over 7 hours. Isner has also set a record for aces at Wimbledon with 53 (and counting). ([http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/23/wimbledon-2010-tennis-live The Guardian]) ([http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8753437.stm BBC]) ([http://www.sbnation.com/2010/6/23/1532109/wimbledon-2010-tennis-isner-mahut-fifth-set-marathon-longest-still-going SB Nation]) ([http://www.crunchsports.com/category/Tennis/Wimbledon-2010--John-Isner-involved-in-longest-Grand-Slam-match-ever-in-tiebreaker-era-201006230006/ Crunchsports]) - [[User:JuneGloom07|<font color="Purple" face="Arial">'''JuneGloom07'''</font>]]  [[User_Talk:JuneGloom07|<font color="Green" face="Times New Roman">Talk? </font>]] 17:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' once the match finishes. Perhaps not the most earth-shattering news we've ever seen, but a nice general-interest story. Where would the update go? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 17:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. We can decide where to put the update when the match is over and we have the full details. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 17:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support''' This has smashed the previous record, so it's not something I'd expect to see beaten in my lifetime.[[User:Yorkshiresky|yorkshiresky]] ([[User talk:Yorkshiresky|talk]]) 17:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' once match ends. Might be worth linking to [[Longest tennis match records]] -[[Special:Contributions/93.97.122.93|93.97.122.93]] ([[User talk:93.97.122.93|talk]]) 17:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd say put the update either in the Wimbledon 2010 articles or it might be notable enough for its own article. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' when it has ended and if indeed this is the longest match in history. The longest match in Wimbledon history wouldn't be good enough but "in history" seems important enough. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:Per HJMitchell I just created [[Nicolas Mahut v. John Isner (2010)]], which hopefully people can use to document this record breaking epic. [[User:Rambo's Revenge|<b style="color:#E32636;">Rambo's Revenge</b>]] [[User talk:Rambo's Revenge|<small><b style="color:#FFA500;">(talk)</b></small>]] 18:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' - When finished, which may well be tomorrow. They're still going with serve, and if this goes to tomorrow, isn't it the first time in history when this has happened not due to weather? I'd imagine they'd have to postpone the winners next match too, as they're supposed to play tomorrow. Regards, --—<small><span style="border:2px solid #340383;color:#5a3596;padding:1px">[[User:Cyclonenim|<b>Cyclonenim</b>]] |[[User_talk:Cyclonenim|<font style="color:#5a3596">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 19:30, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Comment'''. We appear to have two articles, I've just found this - [[2010 Wimbledon: Mahut-Isner match]]. - [[User:JuneGloom07|<font color="Purple" face="Arial">'''JuneGloom07'''</font>]]  [[User_Talk:JuneGloom07|<font color="Green" face="Times New Roman">Talk? </font>]] 19:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' once the match finishes.  [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 19:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' of not I've added merge headers to both articles. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 19:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::I've merged them. All should be fine now. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' Quite an extraordinary story that will certainly attract readers. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 19:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' I actually came here just to suggest this. Incredible stuff. [[User:Makeemlighter|Makeemlighter]] ([[User talk:Makeemlighter|talk]]) 20:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' Remarkable and of interest to a very large audience. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 20:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' given it won't finish until tomorrow, can this be posted now? -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 21:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Let the guys finish the match, then we post with the final number. Otherwise, we could be updating the blurb each consecutive game. But when it is finished, we post ''In Wimbeldon (first stage...) X defeats Y in the longest tennis match in history'' or something like this. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::: I agree we should let the match finish - which will now be in at least another 14 hours, I guess. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' when it ends... if it ever ends! -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:Suggested blurb:
::[[2010 Wimbledon Championships|Wimbledon]]: [[Nicolas Mahut]] '''[[Nicolas Mahut v. John Isner (2010)|defeats]]''' [[John Isner]] 4-6, 6-3, 7-6, 6-7, 999-997 in the [[longest tennis match records|longest match in tennis history]]
:with the score updated (and switched if Isner wins) as necessary. I know we don't usually include scores, but the epic number of games played is the whole point in this story. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I think we should say something like "break several records in the '''[[Nicolas Mahut v. John Isner (2010)|longest match in tennis history]]'''. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 23:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', this is an epic tennis match and probably one of the longest match in all of sports.  Rarely is such a feat seen.  I think it's a no brainer and should link to [[2010 Wimbledon: Mahut–Isner match]], as well as [[longest tennis match records|longest match in tennis history]]. It's amazing that a first round Wimbley match is trumping World Cup in the world of sports! [[User:Captain Courageous|Captain Courageous]] ([[User talk:Captain Courageous|talk]]) 23:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::'all sports'? I know it hasn't finished yet, but it's got some way to go to surpass any year's [[24 Hours of Le Mans]] or [[Dakar Rally]], and there have been plenty of very long snooker matches (just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are other examples). [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

*A tennis match with numerous records attached to it. Normally, even the championship winner probably wouldn't be ITN-worthy, but the sheer abnormality of the match makes this a special case. [[User:Doc Quintana|Doc Quintana]] ([[User talk:Doc Quintana|talk]]) 01:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:<small> Note: This is nominated under yesterday's date where the consensus seems to be to include it when the match ends. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC) </small>
::<small>Let's move it to June 25 then *scnr* --[[Special:Contributions/78.43.172.126|78.43.172.126]] ([[User talk:78.43.172.126|talk]]) 15:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)</small>

*'''Support''' when the match ends. Goodness, I was tired after playing 2.5 hours of tennis about a week ago; I can't even comprehend ''10''. —<font face="Baskerville Old Face">[[User:the_ed17|<font color="800000">Ed</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:the_ed17|<font color="800000">(talk</font>]] • [[WP:OMT|<font color="800000">majestic titan)</font>]]</font> 04:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:<small> Note: The two discussions have now been merged to avoid confusion. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 04:45, 24 June 2010 (UTC) </small>
*'''Strong support''' can't remember any kind of sport where the incumbent record was doubled, eg a team scoring 250+ points in a soccer match, or a 15-0 win in a soccer final etc. '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  05:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Strong support''' Why isn't this on the main page already? This feat transcends sports - it is a once-in-a-life time general event - we should feature it both while it is happening and once the match is complete! [[User:CapnZapp|CapnZapp]] ([[User talk:CapnZapp|talk]]) 10:21, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*:The news is '''now''' - and yesterday. Once the match is actually over, wikinews will be the ''last'' media to report it. [[User:CapnZapp|CapnZapp]] ([[User talk:CapnZapp|talk]]) 10:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*:We don't wait until volcanic eruptions and other longish events are over before reporting them - this match belongs on the front page right now. Besides, the records are already now broken (and newsworthy). Regards, [[User:CapnZapp|CapnZapp]] ([[User talk:CapnZapp|talk]]) 10:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' putting it in now. The records are already broken, the coverage is all over the place. Why do we have to wait for the match to end, when the highest interest will probably be now anyway? [[User:Quantpole|Quantpole]] ([[User talk:Quantpole|talk]]) 10:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''support waiting until it finishes'''. It's probably better to wait at least 5 mins after it finishes for the article to settle down. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 15:13, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*We can finally post the story, Isner has won. - [[User:JuneGloom07|<font color="Purple" face="Arial">'''JuneGloom07'''</font>]]  [[User_Talk:JuneGloom07|<font color="Green" face="Times New Roman">Talk? </font>]] 15:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''it's finished'''. Isner wins 68-70. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 15:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:*'''Posting''' I've watched an awful lot of tennis in my life, but this was simply amazing. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 15:59, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Posted''' --''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 16:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Eh, well... I left the image alone for now, Gillard hasn't been up very long, and none of the pictures of Isner are that great, anyway. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 16:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 23==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 23}}
===ITN candidates for June 23===

====Australian Labor Party leadership election====
[[File:Juliagillard-CROP.jpg|right|100x100px|Julia Gillard]]
In 1 and a half hours, the [[Australian Labor Party]] will hold a spill of its leadership ([[Kevin Rudd]] current Prime Minister), with '''[[Julia Gillard]]''', according to reliable sources, to become Australia's first female Prime Minister. [http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/24/2935413.htm]. I'm putting this up a little early to note two things in advance for this ITN: (1) she won't be PM until she's sworn in by the Governor-General; and (2) in the very unlikely event that Rudd wins, '''oppose''' as we don't post unsuccessful party coups. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
: Support '''iff''' and when she becomes the new PM. Not before. Changes of heads of state are of course ITN material. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:36, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:: This is a head of government, not a head of state, I assume that doesn't make a difference? --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::: My mistake. What I wanted to say was that we post change of president, PM and monarch (whichever position exists in a given country). These are the top positions. Probably Governor-General in the Commonwealth as well. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well [[Elizabeth II|Her Majesty the Queen]] is the head of state in Oz, but it's only a constitutional monarchy. Anyway, this should be a no-brainer if/when we have confirmation. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  21:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::If an appointment as PM is a fait accompli after a successful leadership challenge, I think we should post right away rather than wait for a formal change of power. If the challenge is unsuccessful, I'll leave it to an Australian to say whether that's real big deal news event. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Has now happened.  Gillard is now leader of the Federal Australian Labor Party and will be formally sworn in by the Governor-General later today. The swearing in is merely a formality, Gillard is now PM. First female PM in Australia's history. -- [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]]\<sup>[[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]</sup> 23:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC) See [http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard--to-become-australias-first-female-prime-minister-as-rudd-stands-aside-20100624-yzvw.html?autostart=1 here] for story and [[Australian Labor Party leadership election, 2010]] for wikipedia article. -- [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]]\<sup>[[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]</sup> 23:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::'''Support'''. There's a nice photo as well to balance the male/female images and it is something from the Southern Hemisphere. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::'''Support''' the moment she is sworn in by the Governor-General. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 00:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::'''Support''' Surprised this isn't up yet. <b><i>[[User:PageantUpdater|PageantUpdater]]<small>  [[User talk:PageantUpdater|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PageantUpdater|contribs]] </small></i></b> 01:12, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*According to her article, she hasn't been sworn in yet. Ass soon as she is and the article is updated, it can go up. If it happens on the next hour or 2, I should be around to post it. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:40, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:*If people are anxious to have it in, substitute "will become" for "becomes", then update after she's sworn. -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 02:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::*[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hRDwPj5w2J9PiW2FUXjZNid742ewD9GH9PE80 Associated Press]: "Since she is leader of the majority party in Parliament, Gillard's swearing in as prime minister is a formality." [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 02:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::::We're only following the same protocol as we did for [[Gordon Brown]] in [[Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/June_2007#June 24|June 2007]]... [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 02:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::*No one doubts that, but she is not PM until appointed and sworn. Full stop. The articles should not be updated until then, and obviously ITN should not say something that hasn't been changed at the relevant article. -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 02:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::But she's won the election in relevance and people want to know about the election. Elections are always listed immediately when there is a clearcut result, people don't wait until they are sworn in by the highest judicial body or head of state '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  02:21, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::{{ec}} Then you state she won the election; you don't go beyond the truth. If you read what I said, you'd see I suggested you could fix the wording for the time being by simply changing "becomes" to "will become". -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 02:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I know, it was a wording mistake on my part to put in present tense her becoming PM instead of being elected PM. I am proposing to insert the latter as that is the convention and seems that people are ready for it. I am posting here as I have been reverted '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  02:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:We should either (1) put up that she has been elected as the ALP leader and is "set to become" PM; or (2) wait. We can't say she is the PM because she isn't. It's more than mere formalities; it's about accuracy. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 02:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::We waited for the UK, we waited for Nauru, for Colombia and for finland. With the Swedish wedding, we waited til they were married, so we can wait for Australia. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't know about Nauru and Finland, but the Wedding and the Blair/Brown change were long expected. This is breaking news that should have been up in one form or other long ago simply on the basis of the [[legislative spill|spill]]. -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 02:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I have the blurb, I've uploaded and protected the image and all I have to do is hit "save" (I've even written out the blurb) which i will do as soon as this is official. The precedent for ITN is we wait til it's official, no matter how strongly people object to it. I don;t agree with it, but it's the way things are done. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:43, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Was the Colombian president sworn in right after the election? I haven't been following but don't think he was. Brown's was a scheduled takeover, not an election win. This is an election win like the others, unless all the other countries were sworn in on election night. With weddings the main event is the fanfare and kissing on the balcony, the glamourous dress worn by the princess, with politics, the drama and backstabbing is the main event, not signing a piece of paper '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  02:48, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I'm inclined to agree with YM here; I don't think we should be overly bound by conventions that aren't strictly analagous. We can put up an accurate blurb that reflects the true state of affairs at the moment and update it when she is sworn in very shortly (TV cameras are currently parked outside Gov House). --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 02:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::She's at Gov House now. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 02:52, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::'''Post please''' I've checked and JM Santos is still the P-elect, he hasn't been sworn yet, but he won the relevant election, same as Gillard, so I say post it, and there is consensus to do so '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  02:54, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::::[[#Mari Kiviniemi elected as new Prime Minister of Finland|On Finland]], whose events are somewhat similar to Australia's (change in party leadership though triggered differently), Tone mentioned that the election was what mattered and posted the news item ahead of Kiviniemi's confirmation. He also stated that a non-confirmation is a news item of its own. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 02:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, please post ASAP. '''[[User:Aaroncrick|<span style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC;color: #E49B0F">Aaroncrick</span>]]'''  <small><sup>[[User talk:Aaroncrick|<span style="font-family: Calibri;color:#FE2712">'''TALK'''</span>]]</sup></small> 02:59, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the ceremony is about to happen on live tv. Maybe it isn't worth posting then updating. -[[User:Rrius|Rrius]] ([[User talk:Rrius|talk]]) 03:00, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:She's sworn in now so the above debate is moot. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 03:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

::::::It's the (party room) election that's important and newsworthy, more so than the swearing in. Gordon Brown situation was a little different because that was a handover not an election, I believe. Post now. [[User:Peter Ballard|Peter Ballard]] ([[User talk:Peter Ballard|talk]]) 03:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Central Canada earthquake]]====
- A 5.5 magnitude quake, very rare, felt in New York City, Montreal, Toronto, and other thousands of places. Minor injuries. - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 19:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' even though its very rare in NYC but it was not a major earthquake. --[[User:Saqib Qayyum|<font face="Georgia" size="3" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Saki</i></font>]] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Saqib Qayyum|talk]]</span></sup> 19:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose'''. Somewhat unusual for its location, but a Californian would laugh off this "earthquake." -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Weak support'''. Shaking here was fairly weak, but this one was felt over a very extensive area (about 1,500 km across[http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/us/2010xwa7/us/index.html]) and quakes of this magnitude occur around this region only about once a decade. I think we posted a mag. 4 earthquake in England a while back, simply because it was relatively rare, and this quake hitting a populated area is also somewhat rare (originally the shakemaps had up to Mercalli IX, but now it's down to maximum of VI). ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 22:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Oppose''' as its a big news week. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::not much actually happened but i do kinda like the article -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 22:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'm going to support this. Although there wasn't any major damage, we have a nicely developed article and judging from the number of edits, this is a big deal to a lot of people and something that many people might be expecting to see on ITN. I think the rarity of such an occurrence in this area outweighs what would make it a fairly trivial area in, for example, California which is (according to my quick Google maps search) over 2000 miles away. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:36, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''', no major damage, of interest only to those in its locality. Same as the Lincolnshire earthquake last year (or was it two years ago?). [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::I think it was 2 years ago. It was of interest to me- it woke my grandmother up in Nottingham! I still think this is ITN-worthy, though, especially since we have a quality article. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' - No major damage, no serious injuries, and as mentioned above, it's a big news week.  Nice article though. [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 23:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
'''Support''', it was the first of its kind to hit places like the [[Greater Toronto Area]] and the rest of Southern Ontario in several years. Though there were no injuries, it received considerable national and international media coverage. [[User:Eelamstylez77|Eelam StyleZ]] ([[User talk:Eelamstylez77|talk]]) 00:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' per Eelam. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 00:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::i will '''support''' this per the rarity of event. this is first time since 1998 and it was felt by quite a large number of ppl. plus as i said above article is actually pretty good. -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 01:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I am going to '''oppose''' because of how often I read about earthquakes in rare places around the world. This doesn't seem to be the first in history either. There is virtually no devastation. There's no shortage of disasters at the moment - Chinese floods, Brazilian floods, train crash in the Republic of the Congo, all involving dozens and hundreds of deaths and injuries and misery and mourning across the affected regions. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' but change the blurb to emphasize other points besides New York. This was the most powerful earthquake to hit Ottawa in nearly 12 years, and it was felt fairly widely.--[[User:Patar knight|Patar knight]] - <sup>[[User talk:Patar knight|chat]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Patar knight|contributions]]</sub> 02:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::That isn't actually the proposed blurb. We'd never hear the end of it if we put up an article on a Canadian earthquake saying that it could be felt in New York City. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 04:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

====Dismissal of General Stanley McChrystal====

...Commander of [[International Security Assistance Force|forces in Afghanistan]] '''[[Stanley A. McChrystal|General Stanley A. McChrystal]]''' resigns after a critical interview in ''[[Rolling Stone]]''.([http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10395402.stm BBC])([http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/jun/23/general-stanley-mcchrystal-white-house-live Guardian])[[User:Yorkshiresky|yorkshiresky]] ([[User talk:Yorkshiresky|talk]]) 18:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' change dismissal to resigns as it's unclear if he was pushed or jumped. BBC/Guardian sites for example report both options. [[User:Yorkshiresky|yorkshiresky]] ([[User talk:Yorkshiresky|talk]]) 18:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' - Worldwide coverage.  ([http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/06/201062371612321692.html Al Jazeera], [http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,702395,00.html ''Der Spiegel''], [http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1ec94d72-7ef3-11df-8398-00144feabdc0.html ''Financial Times''], [http://www.france24.com/en/20100623-famously-disciplined-general-mcchrystal-faces-unwelcome-turning-point France 24], [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/us/politics/24mcchrystal.htm ''The New York Times''], [http://www.smh.com.au/world/obama-removes-mcchrystal-from-afghanistan-post-20100624-yzle.html ''The Sydney Morning Herald''], [http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/McChrystal-leaves-White-House-after-crunch-Obama-meeting/articleshow/6083382.cms ''The Times of India''], [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-06/23/c_13365777.htm Xinhua News Agency])  McChrystal will be [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/23/AR2010062300689.html?hpid=topnews replaced] by [[David Petraeus]].  [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|<b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>]] [[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|<span style="color:#99BADD;">'''whisper in my ear'''</span>]] 19:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' Clearly a very big news story. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 20:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' clearly a very important story - there seem to have been a lot today! -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 21:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Red Sea oil spill]]====
"Largest offshore spill in Egyptian history", according to the article. I know it is a little short right now but is this doing as much damage to Egypt as the American oil spill seems to be doing to the United States? The Egyptians seem to be doing better at [http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100623/FOREIGN/706229885/1002 cleaning it up], though there seems to have been a delay in telling the public and "Media reports suggested, however, that 20 kilometres of coastline had been polluted". --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 05:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Relevant, informative, and interesting. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;'''''[[User:CMBJ|<span style="background:black;color:white">'''''C&nbsp;M&nbsp;B&nbsp;J'''''</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 07:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''comment''' It does look like a very small spill, doesn't it? __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 08:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::That's a good point, though the current details seem uncertain at best. According to NPR, an Egyptian environmental organization alleges that their government is downplaying the extent of the leak. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;'''''[[User:CMBJ|<span style="background:black;color:white">'''''C&nbsp;M&nbsp;B&nbsp;J'''''</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 08:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::: '''Wait'''. We need more sources, the situation is not clear. But in principle, I support if it shows true. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Indeed, there's no need to rush to get something up that might later turn out not to be a big deal, better to wait until we know exactly what's going on. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 22==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 22}}
===ITN candidates for June 22===
====UK budget====
*To shrink its [[budget deficit]], the [[British government]] '''[[June 2010 United Kingdom Budget|announces]]''' proposes 25 billion [[GBP|pound]]s in new spending cuts and an increase in the [[value-added tax]] to 20 percent.
::A major announcement for the U.K. and world economies of great interest to many Wikipedia readers. Currently the number-three story on the New York Times' website, which is highly unusual for a British politics story. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. This is just a national budget. Bad as it may feel to us Brits, it's not an especially harsh austerity package in world terms. And [[Alistair Darling]]'s last budget actually cut more of the deficit than this [http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/22/budget-2010-the-axeman-cometh-analysis]. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose'''. Just Osbourne and Cameron playing politics- after all, if you came to power after 10 years of opposition, the first thing you're going to do is bash the previous party and bring in a new budget to undo the last 10 years' worth of work {{small|and make life that bit harder for those of us on a low income}}. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:54, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Domestic political news: a new government presenting an emergency budget is completely normal in global terms. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 22:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support''' I echo Mwalcoff. As for "an emergency budget [being] quite normal," that's quite Orwellian, if I may. [[Special:Contributions/63.138.70.132|63.138.70.132]] ([[User talk:63.138.70.132|talk]]) 01:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

====UN investigation into alleged war crimes in Sri Lanka====
I've created the '''[[War crimes in Sri Lanka]]''' article which covers this news item.--<b>[[User:Obi2canibe|<span style="color:red; font-family:fantasy;">obi2canibe</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Obi2canibe|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Obi2canibe|contr]]</sup></b> 21:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Wait''' until the panel releases its report in four months. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 04:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::Usually the results are posted so it would be a good idea to nominate it again when they are available. But it's good that you've started it. :-) --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

====New members of the hockey Hall of Fame are inducted including the first females====
[[Dino Ciccarelli]], [[Cammi Granato]] and [[Angela James]] are elected as players with Angela James & Cammi Granato being the first women. While [[Jimmy Devellano]] and [[Daryl Seaman|Daryl 'Doc' Seaman]] are elected as builders. [http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=325384]--[[User:Everyone Dies In the End|Everyone Dies In the End]] ([[User talk:Everyone Dies In the End|talk]]) 20:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Strong oppose'''. Nowhere near significant enough. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::How is this not significant. This is the only time in that a Woman has been elected to a professional sports Hall of Fame. Come on how can you say this is less significant than [[Eurovision]]. WHile that gets posted. This is an international Hall Of fame. There's people from all over the world in it. It's not like the Baseball where only MLB players are in it.--[[User:Everyone Dies In the End|Everyone Dies In the End]] ([[User talk:Everyone Dies In the End|talk]]) 21:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:::1. This is certainly not 'the only time in that a Woman has been elected to a professional sports Hall of Fame' (just off the top of my head, see [[English Football Hall of Fame]]). Nor would it be particularly significant were it true. 2. This is a story only of interest to hardcore ice hockey fans - the sport fan on the street neither knows or cares who is inducted into the hall of fame. 3. Although I am a hockey fan myself, ice hockey is not a big sport on the international stage. I simply don't think there's enough international interest to justify posting this. 4. Much as I dislike it, Eurovision is a major cultural institution which hundreds of millions tune in to watch, and was accompanied by masses of media attention. I doubt any of that is true here. 5. The article has received only a one sentence update, with no reference. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't think anyone outside of Canada can really comment on the significance of the Hockey Hall of Fame in Canada, hockey being so essential to Canadian nationhood. That said, we have quite a bit of sports on ITN now, and including selections for halls of fame might raise the argument of opening floodgates. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::I agree with MG and Mwalcoff. We seem to have quite a lot of ice hockey on ITN currently (and nobody outside North America really pays much attention to it) and I'd rather save the ITN slots for the absolute most significant sports tournaments. That apples regardless of the sport- I think we have too much [association] football on ITN FWIW. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Yanga train derailment]]====
- at least 51 deaths - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 17:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as [[2010 China Rail crash]] was posted (along with the European ones) - though the article probably needs a bit more improvement. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 17:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::Article needs some expansion, but we've posted train crashes and derailments with significantly lower death tolls. Is it me or is it nothing but floods and train crashes at the minute? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:I think part of it is that because the Chinese crash was posted people are bring up more crashes outside of Europe/the US where sadly they are more common. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 18:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::Unfortunately we can't post that as it is a copy vio. First sentence is copied from first reference. As there are only 2 sentences that's a sizable amount! [[User:1234r00t|<span style='color:#383132'><i><u><b>Mr. R00t</b></u></i></span>]] [[User Talk:1234r00t| <span style="color:#46520C"><sup><u><i>Talk</i></u></sup></span>]] 02:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::The article has been expanded and the copyvio issues addressed, so I'm ready to post, but one more support would be nice. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Anybody? Please? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's a pity there isn't more interest if [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/congo/7847776/Republic-of-Congo-train-crash-kills-scores.html 1991] was the last time something like this happened. I don't think crashes on this scale are common at all if [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/7847786/The-worlds-worst-rail-accidents.html this] is correct. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}
I presume that's a '''support'''? -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 18:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I expanded the article. Sorry, I thought I'd already supported but it seems I didn't. So '''support''' to clarify. :) --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

====Mari Kiviniemi elected as new Prime Minister of Finland====
I think a new head of government of an entire independent country is significant enough to be mentioned. Possible blurb:
* [[Mari Kiviniemi]] ([[Centre Party of Finland|Centre Party]]) is elected as the new '''[[Prime Minister of Finland]]'''. [http://www.hs.fi/politiikka/artikkeli/Eduskunta+hyv%C3%A4ksyi+Suomelle+uuden+p%C3%A4%C3%A4ministerin/1135258052301]
[[User:JIP|<font color="#CC0000">J</font><font color="#00CC00">I</font><font color="#0000CC">P</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 16:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::Changes to heads of state and government usually et on ITN, but I haven;t been able to find an article on an election. Is there one? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support'''. It seems to be a change of leadership under unique circumstances. The party leadership changed, resulting in a change of prime minister that has been [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j8MiigYBHInUm0Nsw4Ncv0JEzZOgD9GGDONG0 approved] by the [[Parliament of Finland]]. She will hold office until the [[Finnish parliamentary election, 2011|2011 parliamentary election]]. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 17:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Also, the parliament vote [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10378016.stm must be confirmed] by the [[President of Finland]], but that step [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gjRcPGRktXJYGbzxczGkAdL2prGw appears to be a formality]. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 17:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' once confirmed by the president. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:13, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', upon confirmation. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;'''''[[User:CMBJ|<span style="background:black;color:white">'''''C&nbsp;M&nbsp;B&nbsp;J'''''</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 07:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I'll go and post. She has been elected, that's what it counts. In case the president would not confirm her, that would be another ITN story. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

====Belarus cuts gas to Europe in response to Russian cuts====
i think this is a dramatic escalation of the conflict between Russia and Belarus which started when Gazprom announced an initial cut of 15% of gas to Belarus a few days ago, to be increased to 85%, over a disputed claim of less than $200 million in unpaid gas bills. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:Saw this the other day and thought about nominating it. [[Yamal–Europe pipeline]] might be the appropriate article. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 15:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Cameroon Aero Service CASA C-212 Aviocar crash]]====
- Wreckage found - 11 killed - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 10:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' - small turboprop with few people aboard. We can't go featuring every single plane crash on ITN, take a look at [[Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in 2010]] to see how many that would entail. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' While notable people died on this crash, I just don't think it's significant enough. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::So notable that only [[Ken Talbot]] has his own article (about a third of which is describing his death), and nor does the company they worked for have one. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 northeastern Brazil floods]]====
* I started a very basic stub on this one. Looks like we'll have 3 flood items on the main page...--'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:*I thought about nominating this a couple of days ago. It's much less extensive than the floodings in China. There are also other similar events going on at the moment. I may support it though, perhaps more likely if the article is bigger than the stub that has been created. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 09:36, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support pending expansion'''. Looks like a major flooding event. Do we eventually need to create a "[[Floods of 2010]]" article or would all these floods go into [[global storm activity of 2010]]? ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 14:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' and expanded. Since China is at the bottom and this is ongoing this will be the only flood on the Main Page soon. Suggest: <code> '''[[2010 northeastern Brazil floods|Floods]]''' cause the deaths of at least 44 people and the disappearance of hundreds more in [[Brazil]].  </code> Or anything else. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 04:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Posting now the article has been expanded. (I hope nobody minds the fact that I nominated it the first place...) --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 07:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 21==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 21}}
===ITN candidates for June 21===
====[[Hilda archaeological site]]====
:Possible blurb: Archaeologists in [[Hilda, Alberta]] '''[[Hilda archaeological site|announce]]''' the largest cache of fossilized dinosaur bones in recorded history.

Came across this headline in an RSS feed today and figured I'd throw it out there. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;'''''[[User:CMBJ|<span style="background:black;color:white">'''''C&nbsp;M&nbsp;B&nbsp;J'''''</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 07:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:There are no updates in the article about this event. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|<span style="color:#FFBF00">Nominate!</span>]]</sup> 14:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
::It's an interesting event, though- we haven't had anything prehistoric {{small|who though of that term, anyway? What a stupid word. Before history?}} up on ITN for a while. I'd update it, but I daren't go meddling with articles on subjects I know nothing about! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:::[http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Centrosaurus&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=64f719c8669fe4b7 Here are some news articles] for anyone interested in taking it on. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;'''''[[User:CMBJ|<span style="background:black;color:white">'''''C&nbsp;M&nbsp;B&nbsp;J'''''</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 18:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 20==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 20}}
===ITN candidates for June 20===
====Abdolmalek Rigi execution====
*pretty big in light of the controversy surrounding Iran in international relations today, and this too has a tie with the americans which makes it more controversial. 1 "victory" for iran in the face of external pressures.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 07:31, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

====2010 U.S. Open====
The [[2010 U.S. Open Golf Championship]] may be over in  a couple hours.  (Though a Monday playoff is also a possibility.) [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 23:13, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''support''' when ready.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 23:23, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It appears that [[Graeme McDowell]] has [http://www.rte.ie/sport/golf/2010/0621/usopen.html won]? Can this be true? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 03:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
*The article is unpostable atm- it ''seriously'' lacks prose. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. With McDowell bolded. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

====Colombian presidential election====
*[[Juan Manuel Santos]] from the [[Party of the U]] is '''[[Colombian presidential election, 2010|elected]]''' [[President of Colombia|President]] of [[Colombia]].
::Still a while to go before the final results are in (they're at about 55% counted), but the result is clear enought to suggest the blurb! [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 22:38, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''support''' when ready[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 23:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:: It seems the results are there. Just some prose update and this will be ready to post. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:35, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' and done. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 03:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

====Polish presidential election, 2010====
*[http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0421/poland.html The first round of Poland's presidential elections to elect a successor to Lech Kaczynski, who was killed in a plane crash, will be held on 20 June.] —<small>&nbsp;<span style="border:2px solid #000;padding:1px;">&nbsp;[[User:Cargoking|<font style="color:#000080;">'''Cargoking'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Cargoking|<font style="color:#f9f9f9;background:#000000;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 15:32, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
**Where did this come from? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AIn_the_news%2FCandidates&action=historysubmit&diff=369146846&oldid=369146332 I made the nomination!] [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 17:26, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
***Indeed you did! In fact, you made the nomination just as I was clearing out [[WP:ITN/FE]]... so I stuck the line from FE above yours (to keep the timestamps in order), I didn't think it would matter at all! [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 17:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
****Another hidden corner of Wikipedia? {{=)|22}} [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 18:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
(assuming there is a result) '''''[[name]]''''' is elected [[President of Poland]] in an election, replacing [[Lech Kaczyński]], who was killed in [[2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash|a plane crash]] on 10 April. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 08:53, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support''' clearly important. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 09:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' once results are out--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 16:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::''Comment''. It will probably go to a second round, based on opinion polls. We'll see later on this evening. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 17:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::: Seems to be a clear second round. This means we wait until then. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''wait''' If its a runoff then the posting on ITN can come later with that in a few weeks.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.167.217.60|122.167.217.60]] ([[User talk:122.167.217.60|talk]]) 18:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==June 19==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 19}}
===ITN candidates for June 19===
====Nauru elections====
national Electoral results around the globe are ITN-worth
:[[Nauruan parliamentary election, June 2010]] maybe needs an update. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 19:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''No'''. This is not ITN-worthy. We need to be a bit realistic here. Instead of trying to enforce this artificial 'equality' amongst nations, maybe it is time we assessed these elections based on impact. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 02:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
::Well, it is a change to the head of state/government in a sovereign nation, but it is a very, very small nation! We are, though, overdue for an update. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
::Get back to me when you are able to reach a consensus about where to draw the line. I think you'll find that would be an impossible task. There aren't that many elections in the World, there's no reason to try to cap them, unlike other topics. --[[User talk:Monotonehell|Monotonehell]] 10:15, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' when the article is upgraded (probably will be never). If we can put up something as useless as the burning of a giant goat, I don't see why we can't put this up, especially if it is a slow week. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 05:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' and expanded. This was held during a state of emergency so it seems important enough. <code> A '''[[Nauruan parliamentary election, June 2010|parliamentary election]]''' in [[Nauru]] results in a [[hung parliament]]. </code> --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 00:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Posting. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Strong oppose'''. This is another example of the absurdity of applying mathematics-like "rules" like "all X are notable" to news value. Nauru has fewer people than a city council ward in a small town. You are making ITN into a laughingstock. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. Yes Nauru is a very small country. But it is a sovereign nation and this is a global project. Coverage of stories like this - that are obscured by the mainstream media - is good for the project.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 23:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
::I agree that Wikipedia should include information on obscure topics like a Nauruan election. However, to make it one of only a few highlighted current-events items on the main page while excluding items far more important to far more people is crazy, in my opinion. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:36, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I can see both sides of the argument and don't really have a strong opinion either way, but this is far from crazy considering we feature the launch of anything larger than a golf ball into orbit or the dozens of sports events that are of little or no interest to most readers. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:{{ec}} Although it's listed on ITNR, and cognisant of the difficulties inherent in line-drawing, belated '''oppose'''. I can see an argument that posting this demonstrates wikipedia's breadth of coverage, and counters systemic bias. But in the end this is a tiny island with a population of just 14,000. Most local councils have a bigger electorate. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:Belated '''Strong Oppose''' and second Modest Genius. There is a reason we have something called [[WP:IAR|ignore all rules]]. Common sense is what should prevail here. As much as I love reading about the Politics of Nauru, this no doubt undermines the professionalism of this encyclopedia when we find that it's granted precedence over the extremely noteworthy Yuan revaluation. What a shame. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 00:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

====PBoC announced it will reform RMB====
major economy news greeted by immediate praise from obama, geithner, sarko, harper, imf strauss-kahn, russia finance minister, economists and many more.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.65.22.194|76.65.22.194]] ([[User talk:76.65.22.194|talk]]) 22:20, 19 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Could you provide a link to a WP article if there is one and to an external news source so we can evaluate the item? Thanks. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:25, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:It's big news, and it's important, but it's a very technical topic so I would want a particularly good update before I would formally support. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 22:27, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:: [[Renimbi#Value]] for beginning, maybe. No updates there, yet... --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 22:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
article here- Global Leaders Welcome China's Yuan Plan http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704365204575316512609162050.html?mod=WSJ_Markets_LeadStory  renminbi needs an update  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.65.22.194|76.65.22.194]] ([[User talk:76.65.22.194|talk]]) 23:23, 19 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*'''Support''' Albeit esoteric to most people I believe this is major financial reform in the inception. I suggest people go by the assessments from global commentators on this if they don't themselves immediately see how this is big news. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 02:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per above--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 04:14, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per above. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 08:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. This took some time for me to work out what on Earth was actually being proposed, but it seems the Chinese authorities have come out contradict yesterday's reports in the Western media. 'China's central bank says it plans to keep the Chinese yuan "stable" and there will be no immediate revaluation of the currency. ... "There is at present no basis for major fluctuation or change in the [yuan] exchange rate," the bank's website said.'[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10359798.stm]. Looks like they're only going to allow a tiny shift in the peg, not actually float the renmimbi. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Actually, what you refer to, i.e. the clarification on Sunday of the initial announcement on Saturday, merely is an assurance to the markets that changes will be implemented gradually. The policy shift stands, but it will be done so as to not wreak havoc with the international financial markets. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:*yah, obvious they are not floating the RMB, they never said they would. they are in effect depegging it from the usdollar and signalling a gradual appreciation. it is a majeur announcement shows from the reactions from just about any world leader of significance. massive impact on the world markets today and many currencies worldwide have rallied. biggest economy news for the past few days in the world.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.65.20.36|76.65.20.36]] ([[User talk:76.65.20.36|talk]]) 16:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
started to update [[Renminbi]]. Can ppl check it and help out.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.65.20.36|76.65.20.36]] ([[User talk:76.65.20.36|talk]]) 16:34, 21 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> Ready?

====Flooding in South China====
At least 88 dead, and 750,000 displaced. The article is [[2010 South China floods]]: it's not ready yet, as the news is only just coming out in the international media. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 12:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' assuming the article is improved. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 19:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
*suport certain more significant then the French floods  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.65.22.194|76.65.22.194]] ([[User talk:76.65.22.194|talk]]) 22:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::The article needs to be a bit longer before it can be posted. I'll try to get onto it a little later if nobody beats me to it. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:26, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Of note I believe the article has now been updated. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 11:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. the article isn't in the best shape, but we needed an update to the template. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
::Wow, this article was not ready i believe. (2k) its almost as bad as the Nauru election article (although that is pending result)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 07:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It's OK. ITN, has had more unupdated blurbs. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 11:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, it's a newly created non-stub, so it makes our minimum criteria and there's a need to balance that with the state of the template which, if I hadn't added this, would currently be at nearly 50 hours without an update. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:57, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

====Circumcision death "epidemic" in South Africa====
This is an unusual story, but with this large aggregation of deaths I suggest that this becomes viable for an ITN spot. Last year 91 died in illegal initiation ceremonies in the [[Eastern Cape Province]]. I'm not sure if a separate article needs to be created on this (or if it exists?), but we should be able to [[Circumcision controversies#Other contemporary controversies|update existing articles]] sufficiently before presenting this. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 08:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

====Royal wedding====
*[[Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden]] and [[Daniel Westling]] get married. '''''[[User:Theleftorium|<span style="color:#AE0937;">The</span>]][[User talk:Theleftorium|<span style="color:#AD4740;">left</span><span style="color:#C6454E;">orium</span>]]''''' 21:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
*Article: [[Wedding of Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden, and Daniel Westling]]. [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 14:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
**[http://royalweddings.hellomagazine.com/princess-victoria-and-daniel-westling/20100611354/earl-countess-of-wessex/attend/victoria-wedding/1/] [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 10:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
**"Europe's biggest royal wedding since the Prince of Wales married Lady Diana Spencer in 1981."[http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Country+marrying+Swedish+princess+aristocratic+blood+Genealogist/3133554/story.html] [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 14:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
**"Five hundred million television viewers across Europe are expected to watch the 20m Krona (£1.7m) spectacle in Stockholm's specially renovated cathedral."[http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/18/princess-victoria-sweden-royal-wedding] [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 18:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
*The ceremony starts at 13.30 UTC and ends at around 14.30 UTC.[http://www.aftonbladet.se/brollopet/article7327819.ab] [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 08:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' A wedding in a major royal house. The bride is to become the next queen of Sweden. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 08:31, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as above, though I doubt 500 million will be watching. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 09:19, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I think we had a discussion about this some time ago. If I remember correctly, we were against royal weddings in general, apart from the ones which involve the direct successors to the throne. Here, Victoria indeed is the heir to the throne so I'll support. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:59, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
*They are now married. [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 14:37, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:The article could use some work- a paragraph about the ceremony would be nice, as would a few more references- there's an {{tl|unreferenced section}} tag on it. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  14:51, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::The article has been updated a bit now. [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 16:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm still not comfortable posting it with that tag on there. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I've added sources and removed original research/unnecessary details. We've also got some great new images. :) [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 18:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. Per nom, Meco and Tone, plus I love a good wedding. :) - [[User:JuneGloom07|<font color="Purple" face="Arial">'''JuneGloom07'''</font>]]  [[User_Talk:JuneGloom07|<font color="Green" face="Times New Roman">Talk? </font>]] 19:12, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Ready to post. What about ''[[Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden]], marries [[Daniel Westling]] in [[Stockholm]].''? Still this reads rather short, any idea to improve? And we have a good photo now. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:49, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::: Actually, I'll post an alternate blurb. Feel free to modify. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:50, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Posting'''. And there's a free picture! Bonus! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  20:50, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::*Since she's ''clearly'' the more important one, I'd prefer to have her name first.  Objections? [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 20:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Sounds good. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 20:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
*How about "[[Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden]] marries [[Daniel Westling]], who becomes Prince of Sweden and Duke of Västergötland"? [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 20:57, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Makes sense to me. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 21:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure of the need to mention his new title- it's only a blurb and it's already quite long. If it were any longer, we'd have to start chopping the bottom of the template to balance the MP. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  21:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: I think this is fine now. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 18==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 18}}
===ITN candidates for June 18===
====Execution of [[Ronnie Lee Gardner]]====
'''Nom''', execution by firing squad, first person to be executed by firing squad in the United States in 14 years. - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 20:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' Interesting but, in my view, not significant. Just the result of a long-grandfathered execution law. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:27, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' If he'd been sent to the electric chair, we wouldn't even have an article on him. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 21:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I might have supported, because I think this is an interesting story and it ''is'' "in the news" well beyond US shores, but I've just tagged the article with {{tl|recentism}} and {{tl|NPOV}} since more than half of it is about his execution and the rest is about his crimes. If it's improved, I'd probably support. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Death sentences in the U.S. are not unusual, and death sentences by firing squad are not unusual. More the sort of thing that DYK might pick up. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 23:43, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' per Physchim. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

====ITNR: International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award====
ITNR for the world's most expensive award given to an individual work of literature ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&diff=next&oldid=295936807 as posted last year]). I've prepared the articles. <code> '''[[Gerbrand Bakker (novelist)|Gerbrand Bakker]]''' wins the 2010 [[International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award]] for his novel ''[[The Twin]]''. </code> --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 07:53, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:For such an "expensive" award the update is as long as the blurb. Unless we're going to suspend ITN rules for this case too. :O &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 08:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::The update is very obviously longer than the blurb. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 09:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Aside from he's stating he's the first Dutchman to win, the other parts of the update aren't relevant. We would've not said "[[Marie Curie]] won the $__ million Nobel Prize for Physics." This needs some more updates such as what is his reaction, what he'd do with the money (donate it to charity?), other people considered for this year's award, etc. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 12:10, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support'''. <small>(Honey(s), I am home! Great to be back editing Wikipedia. But I'll be gone again until July from tomorrow ):. )</small> —<small>&nbsp;<span style="border:2px solid #000;padding:1px;">&nbsp;[[User:Cargoking|<font style="color:#000080;">'''Cargoking'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Cargoking|<font style="color:#f9f9f9;background:#000000;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 15:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' <small>Welcome back, Cargoking!</small> [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 16:10, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I was here in the background... —<small>&nbsp;<span style="border:2px solid #000;padding:1px;">&nbsp;[[User:Cargoking|<font style="color:#000080;">'''Cargoking'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Cargoking|<font style="color:#f9f9f9;background:#000000;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 16:15, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:@HTD. Have you read the article? The English Gerbrand Bakker is more detailed than the native Dutch and German ones combined and he was much better known there before today. The reaction was included - the horse? His desire to lie down? The song he played instead of a speech? The response of at least one literary correspondent? You would like a list of all 155 titles from dozens of countries across the world? It isn't possible to add any more to his article without overwhelming it with details about this award. Your response does not make any sense and is contradictory, i.e. amount of money is irrelevant but what he does with it is relevant? Pointing out numerous "missing" parts which are already in the article? The more I read your reply the more it does not make sense. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 17:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::Whoa, you don't have to be confrontational (lol). When I read the article it was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerbrand_Bakker_%28novelist%29&oldid=368736072 at this state]. Don't put words into my mouth either; I didn't say adding all 155 lists (that would be appropriate for [[2010 International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award]] article).  As for the money, it is irrelevant in his article, but it is relevant in the award article, the exact amount shouldn't be in his article,  but what he intends to do it is important in his article.
::Anyway, if this does goes up, this should be after the NBA Finals article, unless they gave out the award at the dead of the night there. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 17:44, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::[http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0612/1224272334434.html  From the Irish Times]: "Outside Ireland, the prize’s reach is even smaller, despite its international element. Jonathan Main runs [[Bookseller Crow]], one of London’s best known bookshops. “We’re aware that it’s the richest book prize, but it doesn’t have a profile here, which probably comes down to very little UK press coverage, save for a small paragraph in the Guardian ,” "&ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 18:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Actually, why is this a ITNR? It does not seem to have the same impact as the Booker or the Nobel prize... I am not really in favour of keeping this ITNR... --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:21, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::::: I am guessing it was supported because it offers the largest prize, libraries from across the world nominate the entries, the winner is decided by an international panel of judges, the winners all seem to be from different parts of the world. It is also "in the news" internationally today - [http://www.cbc.ca/arts/books/story/2010/06/18/impac-dutch-the-twin.html CBC], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/jun/17/gerbrand-bakker-impac-prize ''The Guardian''], [http://arts.nationalpost.com/2010/06/17/dutch-writer-gerbrand-bakker-wins-2010-impac-dublin-literary-award/ ''National Post''], [http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/18/2930475.htm?section=entertainment ABC News], [http://www.theglobeandmail.com/books/dutch-novel-wins-impac-prize/article1607995/ ''The Globe & Mail'']. As for impact, [[Herta Müller]] and [[Orhan Pamuk]] both won this before their Nobel Prizes (plus Nobel Laureates [[J. M. Coetzee]] and  [[José Saramago]] are shortlisted) and there are several writers there who have been shortlisted for the Booker as well. Bakker beat a Pulitzer Prize and Orange Prize winner too ([[Marilynne Robinson]]). --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I too have reservations on the ITNR listing. It was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recurring_items&diff=296246697&oldid=292031185 added] by [[User:Candlewicke]] after [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news_section_on_the_Main_Page/Candidates&diff=295886020&oldid=295882619 just one support !vote], despite [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=next&oldid=295903957 later] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=next&oldid=296088130 opposition]. No opinion on whether or not it should be listed - I don't know enough about this at present - but there should certainly have been more discussion. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

====NBA Finals====
The [[2010 NBA Finals]] will conclude in two hours or so, with either the Lakers or Celtics taking the title. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 01:58, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Weak Oppose''' Too close to the World Cup. Too much sports at the same time isn't good. [[User:Doc Quintana|Doc Quintana]] ([[User talk:Doc Quintana|talk]]) 04:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
**Strong oppose since the Lakers won lol. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 04:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Strong support lakers won!!! -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 04:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' Suggested blurb: 'In [[basketball]], the [[Los Angeles Lakers]] '''[[2010 NBA Finals|defeat]]''' the [[Boston Celtics]] in seven games to win the [[NBA Championship]]' --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 04:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::::You guys might like to link [[Game seven (NBA)]] somewhere in the blurb. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 04:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', there is a significant prose update to the bolded link. [[User:Random89|<span style="color:#3B9C9C;">Random</span>]][[User Talk:Random89|<span style="color:#F87217;">89</span>]] 06:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Posting. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 06:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
: '''Support''' predicting random anti-US opposes later. BUT I do like the way basketball is mentioned, and not just NBA. :) [[User talk:Fox|<font style="color:#161616;">&nbsp;'''''f&nbsp;o&nbsp;x'''''&nbsp;</font>]] 12:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::That's how we do it on itn. We mention the sport itself. When we had the Stanley Cup up we didn't even mention that it was the NHL. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 17:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:Belated '''support''' per ITNR. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

====Death of [[Hans Dichand]]====
*"Newspaper icon", "One of the most powerful and influential men in Austria" and "The paper has been feared for its potential of helping to build up political careers by destroying others" - [http://austrianindependent.com/news/General_News/2010-06-17/3188/Newspaper_icon_Hans_Dichand_dies ''Austrian Independent'']
*"Powerful Austrian publisher dies", "rose from humble beginnings to become both revered and feared" - [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5imwGldC7xXD5RkRLOvkbbI2NWPcgD9GD4NH80 AP]
*"A household name in Austria" - [http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9GD188O4.htm ''Business Week'']
*[http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article469994.ece According] to ''[[The Hindu]]'', he "leav[es] a legacy as one of Austria's most influential men, one who helped push late far—right leader Joerg Haider to political fame". He supported both former UN Secretary-General [[Kurt Waldheim]] in his [[Austrian presidential election, 1986|1986 presidential election bid]] as well as current chancellor [[Werner Faymann]], the Social Democrat. Dichand founded his newspaper ''[[Kronen Zeitung]]'' in 1959 - it has a "dominant market share, which is one of the world's highest for a newspaper" and "has been Austria's biggest daily since the early 1970s". He supported Austria joining the European Union and then criticised the European Union afterwards. He also criticised immigration. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 00:53, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. Household name in Austria, unknown elsewhere in the world. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 09:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''', really not significant outside Austria. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

====Death of [[José Saramago]]====
Winner of the [[Nobel Prize in Literature]] in 1998. Possible hook: "[[Nobel Prize in Literature|Nobel-laureate]] '''[[José Saramago]]''' of [[Portugal]] dies at the age 87." [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10352251.stm Online source: (BBC)] [[User:ISD|ISD]] ([[User talk:ISD|talk]]) 13:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' when the article is adequately updated. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 17:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::There's a precedent for posting the deaths of Nobel-laureates, but the article needs an update- a short section about the end of his life, his death and reaction to it would be good. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I have added a "Death" section and expanded and sourced it, the rest of the article is decent, so it should be postable now. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Posting. HJ, will you do the postman duties- I've got to run. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 20:24, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::{{done}} [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  20:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::: Maybe add to the blurb that he was a writer? Otherwise unfamiliar readers have to figure this out by clicking. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:15, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

====Comet McNaught (another one)====
*'''[[C/2009 R1]]''', also known as [[Comet McNaught (disambiguation)|Comet McNaught]], appears in the night sky and becomes visible with the [[naked eye#Naked eye in astronomy|naked eye]].[http://www.space.com/spacewatch/new-comet-mcnaught-visible-100608.html] Note this is a different Comet McNaught to [[Comet McNaught|the one we posted in 2007]]. It is also fairly  urgent as it is just about at its most visible currently, we should not miss the best part of it. Also, based on the previous ITN Comet McNaught, we can expect a surfeit of good quality, freely licensed photos of this comet to come forth, which is always good for the project. [[User Talk:Zunaid|Zunaid]] 18:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
: '''Support'''. The article is in good shape and pretty informative. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:26, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
: '''Support'''. The article seems in good shape, and this is the sort of topic that captures readers' interest. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 23:45, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::Alright, anyone got a good blurb for this? [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 23:53, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Is my first sentence not a good enough blurb as is? Feel free to work on it. [[User Talk:Zunaid|Zunaid]] 07:47, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' for now, and '''wait''' to see how bright it gets. The latest measurement I can find puts it at mag +5, which makes it just one dot amongst thousands of similarly faint naked-eye stars. I think we should limit ourselves to [[great comet]]s, which this is not (yet). If it gets bright enough that it can be spotted by those who weren't specifically looking for it, and generates some media attention, then I'll change my mind. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' with the article as it is. I added a few tags earlier and they've yet to be addressed, other than that, I agree with MG above- if people who weren't looking for it can spot it and it gets some media attention, I'll support, but not yet. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::While we're on the topic, would it be worth adding [[great comet]]s to [[WP:ITNR]]? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I've no objections to that. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 15:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 17==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 17}}
===ITN candidates for June 17===
====French floods====
*[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10327034.stm (BBC)]- At least nine people have been killed in flooding in Southern France. We posted the Arkansas floods and the death toll there was lower than this when it first went up, so this should be relatively simple once we have an article. I'll write one in a minute. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC) 
'''Support''' when there's an article. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 07:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
: Starter, [[2010 Var floods]]. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:27, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::Death toll now at 22, and expected to rise further. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 11:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 13:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I believe this is ready to post but since I started the article, I leave posting to someone else. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:14, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support'''. The article now says 25 are dead so perhaps somebody ought to post it. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 15:16, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Suggest: <code> '''[[2010 Var floods|Heavy rainfall]]''' in [[Var (department)|Var]] kills at least 25 people during the region's worst floods since 1827. </code> --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 15:20, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' <small>(Disclosure: Invited to review candidate by nom)</small> –[[user:xeno|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">'''xeno'''</span>]][[user talk:xeno|<sup style="color:black;">talk</sup>]] 15:45, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

====Air India inquiry====
* [http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/17/air-india017.html CBC] A [[Canada|Canadian]] Commission of Inquiry concludes a "cascading series of errors" led to the 1985 bombing of '''[[Air India Flight 182]]''', killing all 329 people on board. --'''[[User:Natural RX|<font color="#000000">Natural</font>]] [[User talk:Natural RX|<font color="#228b22">R</font><sub><font color="#000000">X</font></sub>]]''' 20:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' due to the significance of the original event and the international coverage the conclusion is receiving, e.g. [http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/06/2010617155851683807.html Aljazeera] and [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10344125.stm BBC] as well as numerous Indian and Canadian sources. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:12, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::Proposed edit: "...a "cascading series of errors" by the [[Government of Canada]], the [[RCMP]], and [[Canadian Security Intelligence Service|CSIS]] led to the 1985 bombing...". Thoughts? --'''[[User:Natural RX|<font color="#000000">Natural</font>]] [[User talk:Natural RX|<font color="#228b22">R</font><sub><font color="#000000">X</font></sub>]]''' 21:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
{{adminnote}} Any more support for this? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' this seems significant. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:The article is rather a mess, <s>I'm not sure</s> there's no way we should be putting it up as a bold link. It doesn't look awful at first glance, but if you try and read it you'll find it's a mish-mash of unreferenced sections, events given out of chronological order, out-of-date speculation, and I can't immediately see where the update is. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::I just slapped {{tlx|refimprove}} on it, and unless I can find something concrete I'm going to add {{tlx|update}} too. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Strong Oppose''' due to awful state of the article and a complete lack of an update. I think that's probably the most tagging I've ever done to one article. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' when the article is improved. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 02:37, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

====2010 Papua earthquake====
* [[2010 Papua earthquake]] - major, and largely ignored, story which is still developing.  [[User:Scanlan|Scanlan]] ([[User talk:Scanlan|talk]]) 02:53, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
** '''Weak Oppose''' It seems like it's been awhile since we've had an earthquake up there, but there's already been 10 earthquakes this year over 7, and this was in a very unpopulated area it seems. [[User:Doc Quintana|Doc Quintana]] ([[User talk:Doc Quintana|talk]]) 04:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

** '''Support'''  The earthquake destroyed nine villages. As far as using the population of the area as criteria for Support or Oppose, earthquakes in areas of no population can create tsunamis.  I don't think we should succumb to earthquake fatigue.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/63.138.70.132|63.138.70.132]] ([[User talk:63.138.70.132|talk]]) 04:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==June 16==
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===ITN candidates for June 16===
====[[2010 Var department flooding]]====
- 15 killed - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 15:17, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
:Please create an article for the event; a nominated red link cannot be supported. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|<span style="color:#FFBF00">Nominate!</span>]]</sup> 02:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

====Soyuz TMA-19====
We list all US manned spaceflights, so I see no reason not to list Russian ones as well. This is also the 100<sup>th</sup> mission to the ISS, which should count for something. Recommended text: "'''[[Soyuz TMA-19]]''' launches on the 100<sup>th</sup> flight to the [[International Space Station]], carrying three members of the [[Expedition 24]] crew." Spaceflights of this nature are [[WP:ITN/R]] anyway. --'''''[[User:GW Simulations|<font color="#115566">G</font>]][[User talk:GW_Simulations|<font color="#496636">W</font>]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|…]] 10:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Support''' 100th mission to ISS. '''Oppose''' automatic listing of any flight just because it's manned. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 13:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Comment''': There's an ongoing discussion about updating the space item criteria on [[WT:ITNR]]. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Posting'''. I'm not a huge fan of posting the launch of anything larger than a golf ball into space as we seem to do currently, but it's ITNR, for the minute at least and we have a article in decent shape. Besides, the timer's about to turn red. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Papua earthquake|16 June 2010 Indonesia earthquake]]====
- at least 3 killed - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 13:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
====[[2010 Sinaloa train collision]]====
- At least 13 deaths - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 08:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Comment'''. Please follow the listing instructions by updating the Current Events listing first, with at least one url to the incident. As I have no idea where Sinaloa is, or a url to follow, it's a '''neutral'''. It's also probably not helpful to present headers as redlinks, these suggest to me that someone has already had a stub deleted, rather than nobody has yet created the article. And if they are notable incidents, it is easily possible someone else independently creates it under a different name, while we possibly sit here looking at a redlink thinking it doesn't exist. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 13:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

====Major exoplanet announcement====
From the paper "Characteristics of Kepler Planetary Candidates Based on the First Data Set: The Majority are Found to be Neptune-Size and Smaller": "On 15 June 2010 the Kepler Mission released data on all but 400 of the ~156,000 planetary target stars to the public. At the time of this publication, 706 targets from this first data set have viable exoplanet candidates with sizes as small as that of the Earth to larger than that of Jupiter. Here we give the identity and characteristics of 306 of the 706 targets. The released targets include 5 candidate multi-planet systems. Data for the remaining 400 targets with planetary candidates will be released in February 2011. The Kepler results based on the candidates in the released list imply that most candidate planets have radii less than half that of Jupiter" [http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.2799 Characteristics of Kepler Planetary Candidates Based on the First Data Set: The Majority are Found to be Neptune-Size and Smaller], William J. Borucki, for the Kepler Team
(Submitted on 14 Jun 2010) [[User:Qurq|Qurq]] ([[User talk:Qurq|talk]]) 04:56, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:I haven't read the paper yet (will do so before deciding whether to support or oppose), but 306 new exoplanets is a MASSIVE advance. That's almost doubled the number of exoplanets overnight. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:32, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:<s>Preliminary support</s>, pending a blurb item and an updated article. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 20:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps [[Kepler Mission]] would be an appropriate article to update, but '''question''': I'm curious as to the terminology "viable candidates" (since I'm not too familiar with deep space astronomy). Does it mean they will actually be confirmed discoveries for addition to [[List of extrasolar planets]]? [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 20:50, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:OK, I read the paper, here's my assessment. Firstly, this is an [[arXiv]] [[preprint]], which has not yet been submitted for publication (will be soon). In general, I think the vast majority of 'viable candidates' will turn out to be confirmed planets. However, the paper states that 'The discussion in this paper covers the remaining 306 targets that the Kepler team does not plan to give high priority for follow up confirmation', so these are targets which are a combination of faint and/or less promising, with 400 'better' targets withheld for the moment. Further, it states 'The reader is cautioned that the false alarm rate for the candidates presented here is unknown and could be near 50%'. They also state that all candidate of estimated size 1.5*Earth and smaller are withheld in the group of 400 - implying that there is a substantial number of such candidates. Only planets with orbital periods <33 days are listed. Conclusion: this is big news in astronomy, and probably constitutes the largest number of planets detected by a single team ever, and eclipses the previous most announced in one go by a country mile. And they haven't even included their 400 'best' candidates. And this is based on just the first 42 days of the (multi-year) mission. However, this is still an un-peer-reviewed preprint, so we should '''wait''' until it is published. Might be worth seeing what media attention the proper publication attracts - the various PR machines will use that as their copy deadline. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Lets wait. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 21:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 15==
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===ITN candidates for June 15===

====Saville Inquiry - 3:30 pm====
*[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/10160547.stm Publication date] of the [[Bloody Sunday Inquiry]] - to be announced by David Cameron in the House of Commons. [http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/10/bloody-sunday-inquiry-northern-ireland ''The Guardian'']'s choice of words - "long-awaited", "unlawful" and "the longest public inquiry in British legal history" - suggest some significance. As does "Up to 10,000 people are expected to march around lunchtime that day into Guildhall Square in Derry, where they will watch live reports about the inquiry's conclusions on giant television screens". --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 20:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:This is due later today. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Support''' The most expensive public enquiry in UK history. Should be promoted once report is published. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 09:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:David Cameron has just apologised on live television as well. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 14:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:The minimum update has now been reached. Suggest: <code> The '''[[Bloody Sunday Inquiry|Saville Inquiry]]''' into [[Bloody Sunday (1972)]] finds the [[British Army]] guilty of shooting 27 civilians, while British Prime Minister [[David Cameron]] apologises. </code> --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 15:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
*There's only one support. It can't hurt to wait. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' a highly controversial and significant event in the history of the United Kingdom, and a vast public enquiry.  [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 15:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', but suggest bolding the [[Bloody Sunday (1972)|Bloody Sunday]] link rather than [[Saville Inquiry]] (much better article, and has been updated but needs some citations for the update), and it would be nice to work the fact that all 17 dead have been found completely innocent into the blurb. This is a major milestone in the history of Northern Ireland. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
::Well if someone could add the required citations to the Bloody Sunday article, I'm ready to post, barring a flood of opposes, though I'm not sure how we could work "they were found innocent" into a neutral blurb... [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:::{{done}} That was fun with a whole load of edit conflicts. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:54, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Posting'''. Why do I get the feeling the peanut gallery will be berating me for this all night? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::*<small>See: ''[[Peanut gallery]].'' {{;)}} [[user:220.101.28.25|''' -- 220.101''']] '''([[User talk:220.101.28.25|talk]])''' <sup>[[Special:Contributions/220.101.28.25|\Contribs]]</sup> 17:02, 15 June 2010 (UTC)</small>

====Football and money====
A record sum of money + a five-year legal battle + final appeal lost + Romania, England and Switzerland (and perhaps others?) + reported in Asia and the United States. [http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/14/adrian-mutu-chelsea (''The Guardian'')] [http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8738824.stm (BBC)] [http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Sports/Story/A1Story20100614-222069.html (AsiaOne)] [http://beta.thehindu.com/sport/football/article456416.ece (''The Hindu'')] [http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/06/14/football.mutu.chelsea.cocaine/ (CNN)] Is this significant enough? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 00:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Not significant enough in my view. The ruling doesn't appear to have any precedent value (say, unlike the Bosman ruling). It's just a private lawsuit between an employee and a former employer, notable only because the employee is a pro sportsman and he's been nailed for a lot of money.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 00:50, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''', sorry this isn't significant outside the anorak-y world of football-transfer-watching. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 14==
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===ITN candidates for June 14===
====Discovery of vast mineral wealth in Afghanistan====
*In [[Afghanistan]], a team of U.S. geologists and [[Pentagon]] officials discover vast mineral wealth, including [[iron]], [[gold]] and critical industrial mineral [[lithium]], estimated to worth nearly US$1&nbsp;trillion. [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ixbAsQE2cup3cqRFmFhi27zPVksAD9GAU6U02 (AP)] I think this is a significant discovery. I suppose the article to be updated is [[Mining in Afghanistan]]; unfortunately, the article is not in a good shape at all. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 08:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm rather ambivalent on this one. A large, mountainous, previously poorly prospected country, which has recently had a massive influx of American money, expertise and manpower, is the most obvious place in the world for major new mineral discoveries to happen. And how much of this $1T is economically feasible? There's trillions of dollars worth of stuff on the Moon, but that doesn't mean anyone's going to be extracting it any time soon. Plus, the article is poorly referenced and missing an update. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 11:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:The article concerns alone warrant an oppose.  But MG's points add to my doubt.  Plus, is there a precedent for posting something like this (or is this event unprecedented)? [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 18:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm going to say '''oppose'''. I agree with MG that unexpected discoveries are to be expected in unexplored areas, especially an area with the geology of Afghanistan; you just need to find the right spot. A cynic would say that that is one of the reasons for the fighting... but I'm not cynic, am I? [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 18:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' as [http://www.politico.com/blogs/laurarozen/0610/Afghanistans_mineral_find_and_the_Washington_clock.html?showall this] and [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2010/jun/14/afghanistan-usforeignpolicy-petraeus this] suggests it is a "discovery" similar to Columbus "whose voyages across the Atlantic Ocean led to general European awareness of the American continents in the Western Hemisphere" (according to Wikipedia). This sounds a little too much like U.S. geologists "whose voyages across the Atlantic Ocean led to general American awareness of Afghan minerals that Russia knew about in the 1970s" and, to quote the article, "the administration really needs something to staunch the feeling that 'let's just get the hell out'" and that this is "an effort to get some good news out". Even if that is all a lie it raises some doubts. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 00:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 13==
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===ITN candidates for June 13===
====[[Hayabusa]] returns====
*[[Hayabusa]] returns and lands in [[Woomera, South Australia]]. Capsule reentry at 13:51(UTC). [[User:Hektor|Hektor]] ([[User talk:Hektor|talk]]) 07:33, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
**Landed.  [[User:Hektor|Hektor]] ([[User talk:Hektor|talk]]) 14:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', once the article gets a prose update. At the moment, it's also a prime example of [[WP:PROSELINE]]. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:18, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. seems a significant mission, albeit with some doubts over its success. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) Suggested blurb:

* The [[Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency|Japanese space agency]] probe '''[[Hayabusa]]''' returns to Earth having completed a seven year mission to [[Sample return mission|sample]] the asteroid [[25143 Itokawa|Itokawa]]
 
:'''Support''', rather unique mission. strikes me as interesting and worthy of ITN. [[User:Nirvana888|Nirvana888]] ([[User talk:Nirvana888|talk]]) 17:28, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:: There is some update in the article already. Willing to post when someone checks the article and agrees with the sufficiency of the update. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 17:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd like to see more prose. Half the article is in bullet points and it's just a timeline- this happened, than that happened, then this. It needs a chunk of prose about the conclusion of the mission at the very least. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Comment''' - Guys, this is the first man made object in history to enter in contact with the surface of an object beyond the Moon (Itokawa) and to come back afterwards. If this does not make ITN, nothing space related should. This is as much a breakthrough as Viking or Voyager. [[Special:Contributions/87.213.109.106|87.213.109.106]] ([[User talk:87.213.109.106|talk]]) 21:03, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Nobody is questioning the worthiness of the story, but the article is not sufficient to meet ITN standards at the minute. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  21:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Add this now. The World Cup is stickied and it doesn't have updates. Where's the NPOV in that? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 05:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Posting. And there's plenty of updates in the World Cup article, just get over it ;-) --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 07:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:: :Overstatement of the year? :O &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 08:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:::No, not really. You've made your [[WP:POINT|point]], it's been universally dismissed, and now it's time to let it rest. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 08:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::::That's the overstatement to the overstatement of the year. Not really that POINT-ty, just pointing (LOL) out that there are zero prose updates on the linked article. No passages on Green's boo-boo, or the 4-0 loss from the Aussies. Nothing.  Nada. Zip. Nil. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[WT:ITN#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 08:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Belgian general election, 2010]]====
Election to all 150 seats of the [[Belgian Chamber of Representatives]] and 40/71 of the [[Belgian Senate]] - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 14:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::'''support''' per ITN-worth. although election results wont put this on the front page till at least tomorrow i suspect, one still needs to nominate it (on the 14th i guess). Just to pre-empt statement of the government being formed, that will not happen for possibly several months, so the title on the main page should be something like "[The ruling] ''Party X'' wins a plurality in the Belgian general elections"[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 17:46, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Needs more of an update before posting.--[[User:Chaser|Chaser]] ([[User talk:Chaser|talk]]) 23:22, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Of course, I usually just nominate these at future events well in advance to make sure we don't miss any.  As the gap between voting and final results being published is so variable it is much simpler just to put them on the list for the day of the election (rather than guess when the results will come out).  I had no intention of getting them posted to ITN on election day - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 23:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:Final results aren't in yet (85% counted), but the result is clear and being called by reliable sources:
*In [[Belgium]], the [[Nieuw-Vlaamse Alliantie|New Flemish Alliance]] gains a [[plurality]] in the [[Belgian Chamber of Representatives|Chamber of Representatives]] in a '''[[Belgian general election, 2010|general election]]''', with the [[Socialist Party (francophone Belgium)|francophone Socialist Party]] coming second.
:We don't usually list the second place, but I think it's important in Belgium, where you effectively have two separate party systems. The article still needs updating before this can be posted. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 23:42, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', and include the largest party in both regions as above. Though shouldn't 'francophone' be capitalised? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think so: it's French name is ''Parti Socialiste'', so "francophone" is just our explanatory adjective. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I thought Francophone was always capitalised, regardless of how it was being used. Wiktionary lists the capitalised version and offers non-capitalised as an alternative; other dictionaries vary - the OED has the non-capitalised version, Merriam-Webster states 'Usage: often capitalized' and Webster's College has just the capitalised version. Conclusion: either is fine. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:I think the article is ready (the two tables contribute much), but the hook is wanting. That the separatist party won is the focus of news coverage: [http://news.google.com/news/more?q=belgian+election&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dUFpqtG8PEJ5FfM4JegOH1jS-J2LM&ei=SJIVTKyRKM2InQfy_PGMDA&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&cd=1&resnum=1&ved=0CCYQqgIoADAA]. The question is how to state that in a sufficiently neutral way for the main page.--[[User:Chaser|Chaser]] ([[User talk:Chaser|talk]]) 02:25, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::I think a combination of the table suggesting is above. Although there is a valid point to make that the 2nd place Wallonian party should get mention. So how about something like "''Party X'' wins a plurality in the ''Belgian general elections, 2010'', with ''Party Y'' in second place amidst talk of ''Partition of Belgim''" (the italics being the words linked to.
::I too thought Francephone was capitalized (i've copied edited it on the page (feel free to change that otherwise))[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 06:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 24 Hours of Le Mans]]====
Le Mans 24 hour race concludes; WP:ITNR event. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 20:06, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' if the article can have some decent prose; '''oppose''' in its current state of tables and, well, not much else. I'd normally try to work on it but I know so little about motorsports I'd make the article worse. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 14:27, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Oppose''' The article content post-win is totally unfrerenced, and the article as a whole is beyond crap in being anywhere near readable for the non-motorsport fan. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 16:27, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Oppose''' MickMacNee is absolutely right, the article is useless for the average reader.  I'm not even sure this is notable enough for ITN anyway.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 16:33, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Just for the record, I agree with the oppose votes - at present, the article is very poor. I nominated this a few days ago at [[WP:ITN/FE]]. It's certainly notable, but needs some actual content, and I'm struggling to find much in the way of race reports (I assume all the sports writers are off at the world cup or canadian grand prix) [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 16:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:It's certainly notable enough for ITN, but the article is tagged with {{tl|refimprove}}, which alone means it can't be posted but it also seriously lacks prose. If it can be improved sufficiently, though, I'll post it. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:09, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' Simply on the basis that not much text has been able to be written for it yet.  Although I certainly would argue vehemently that it is notable as part of the [[Triple Crown of Motorsport]], a 24 hour race is just quite difficult to give a summary to on such short notice, although this year's page also is lacking in other sections as well at the moment. [[User:The359|<font color="#004400">The<sup>3</sup>5<sub>9</sub></font>]] ([[User talk:The359|<font color="#004400"><b>Talk</b></font>]]) 22:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 12==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 12}}
===ITN candidates for June 12===
====[[2010 Nicobar Islands earthquake]]====
- A 7.7 magnitude earthquake - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 20:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. While 7.7 seems quite strong, there are (thankfully) no reports of casualties or significant damage so I doubt this quake is notable enough even for its own article, though [[n:|Wikinews]]'ll take it. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' and AfD article--[[User:De Administrando Imperio|<span style="color:#003399;">D'''A'''</span><span style="color:red;">I</span>]] ([[User talk:De Administrando Imperio|'''Δ''']]) 08:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' due to lack of impact. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:11, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

====Death of [[Egon Ronay]]====
An [http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0612/ronaye.html "internationally renowned food critic"]. Something tells me French-Hungarian food critics don't always attract this much attention when they die (and it seems to have just been announced so it might build momentum). [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/10301459.stm BBC], [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/7823181/Food-critic-Egon-Ronay-has-died.html ''The Daily Telegraph''], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jun/12/food-critic-egon-ronay-dies ''The Guardian''], [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iabcdOuhqTAUrYwH4dEmpAkIC9PQ AFP], [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i9He9XaHxz7waLgoZsN9BNAhiQTgD9G9OAU01 AP], [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hUU6adiiRH3qp52bPfY0yJInSjAQ PA] --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 13:31, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
: I'd say no. The article lacks citations and is too short for a decent obituary that we occasionally feature on ITN. The noatbility I leave to the others. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''oppose''' no notability, he has to be notable when alive not after death[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 14:01, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' In my opinion, not a significant enough person or a significant enough death to warrant ITN treatment. These things are always, of course, going to be matters of opinion. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''', not sufficiently notable, and the article is rather poor. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

==== Kyrgyz clashes ====
[[2010 Kyrgyzstan crisis|'''Ethnic clashes''']] in the [[Kyrgyz]] city of [[Osh]] kill more than 50 people. --[[User:De Administrando Imperio|<span style="color:#003399;">D'''A'''</span><span style="color:red;">I</span>]] ([[User talk:De Administrando Imperio|'''Δ''']]) 09:37, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:Support once updated.  This seems like an important development of these events and has spurred the Kyrgyz government into [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10300348.stm asking the Russians for military assistance] - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 10:49, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
: Some more update would be nice, there is plenty material in the news available. But in principle, support. 
--'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

::'''Posted''' as article has been updated with references.--[[User:Chaser|Chaser]] ([[User talk:Chaser|talk]]) 18:49, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::update to 70--[[User:De Administrando Imperio|<span style="color:#003399;">D'''A'''</span><span style="color:red;">I</span>]] ([[User talk:De Administrando Imperio|'''Δ''']]) 19:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Slovak parliamentary election, 2010]]====
An election to all 150 seats of the [[unicameral]] [[National Council of the Slovak Republic]] - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 14:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
: Sure, this goes up when the results are up. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''support''' these are always ITN-worthy. and by polls it seems to break the recent Euro trend of far-right parties rising. (SNP are fourth)[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 14:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::They are still waiting on the final results, won't be too long now though - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 14:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' per ITNR, once final results are in. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:09, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
::[http://portal.statistics.sk/nrsr_2010/sr/tab4.jsp?lang=en The final results are in].  Prime Minister [[Robert Fico]]'s [[Direction – Social Democracy]] party won an improved plurality of the results but his coalition partners ([[People's Party – Movement for a Democratic Slovakia]] and [[Slovak National Party]]) fared less well.  He has been invited to form a government but can only achieve a majority share of seats in parliament if he can entice one of the centre-right opposition to join him.  I will try to make a bit more of an update to the article soon - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 19:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Possible blurb: "[[List of Prime Ministers of Slovakia|Prime Minister]] [[Robert Fico]]'s [[Direction – Social Democracy]] party wins a [[plurality (voting)|plurality]] of seats in the [[Slovakia]]n '''[[Slovak parliamentary election, 2010|general election]]''' but his coalition fails to retain a majority in the [[National Council of the Slovak Republic|National Council]]" As always there are probably ways this can be improved, but it's a starting point - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 20:05, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Posted'''.--[[User:Chaser|Chaser]] ([[User talk:Chaser|talk]]) 23:43, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Same-sex marriage in Iceland]]====
*Iceland legalizes gay marriage...with no votes against. [[User:Savidan|Savidan]] 15:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as it is a significant legislative change. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 15:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Legalization of same-sex marriage in a Nordic country is hardly Earth-shattering news. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 15:58, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' not significant - a small country and its something that would be expected. Less notable than Portugal. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 16:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' Is this legislative change going to be proposed in every nation as it inexorably rolls out over most of the world? [[User:Kevin McE|Kevin McE]] ([[User talk:Kevin McE|talk]]) 17:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' this and every other same-sex marriage story, until something majorly groundbreaking occurs (first in Africa, maybe; US, no). [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 17:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::First in Africa already happened, (!)Modest Genius [[User:Nutmegger|Nutmegger]] ([[User talk:Nutmegger|talk]]) 21:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh. My mistake. <s>Where?</s> <small>it's South Africa</small> [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:58, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::::The first muslim country hasn't happened yet and that will be notable. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:38, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Or the first Asian country. Nepal seems to be [[Same-sex marriage in Nepal|getting close to it]] [http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/nepal/Nepal-charter-to-grant-gay-rights/Article1-499154.aspx]. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 03:45, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 11==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 11}}
===ITN candidates for June 11===

====[[2010 Chihuahua shootings]]====
- 18 killed - [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/latin_america/10296352.stm BBC] - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 20:28, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gMi5B2USfJStXxfqgWWr2xjRYpOgD9G95AI80 At least 30 gunmen]. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:03, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Update''' - now we have '''40 killed''' OMG! - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 07:17, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' if the article was longer than a sentence. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 08:38, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
*:LMFAO. You just posted onto the front page an article that says the attackers [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2010_Chihuahua_shootings&oldid=367614335 proceeded to shoot their loads at those whom they encountered]. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 15:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh bollocks! {{small|No pun intended ;)!}} [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Arkansas floods]]====
The news is still in early breaking mode so not much is known beyond what is in the article. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 19:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:The article has been updated now, we know that 20 are dead and 40 missing. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::What? We need to add updates? :O &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 03:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Not very much, it's not that short really. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 04:07, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Even if there were no updates this would've made it. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 04:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I don't think it would. There would need to have been an article. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 04:42, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just a change in verb tenses would've been sufficient for ''today'''s ITN standards. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 04:47, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
{{adminnote}} Can we discuss this nomination, please?  The article looks sufficient to me, but a few more sources- and some actual support- wouldn't go amiss. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 07:21, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' event seems notable. [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 15:37, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
*Thank you, DC. Article is in good shape and nobody has explicitly opposed, so '''posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. I'm surprised this got posted. Currently there is an ongoing flood in China that killed 155 and got over a million to flee, reported [http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_15286294 here] on the [[Denver Post]]. I won't go into a rant about systemic bias, but let's be reasonable here. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 00:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

====Arlington National Cemetery====
I'm not familiar with how to submit an item for ITN, but those who do may want to submit [[Arlington National Cemetery mismanagement controversy]]<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — [[User:Rlevse|<b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b>]] • [[User_talk:Rlevse|<span style="color:#990;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 12:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:<small>Transferred from [[WT:ITN]]. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 12:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)</small>
*'''Oppose''' Falls way short of ITN requirements. There's simply no international angle of interest to this story. Try [[Portal:United States]] and [[Portal:Military of the United States]] perhaps. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 09:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. This is nowhere near significant enough. Plus I'm not sure the word 'controversy' should be in an article title. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 10:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Huh''' But flooding in Arkansas and ethnic clashes in Kyrgyzstan (both on the main page right now) do have international interests? Does not compute. Does not compute.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — [[User:Rlevse|<b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b>]] • [[User_talk:Rlevse|<span style="color:#990;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 18:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Anything with a bit of death in it has developed automatic ITN'ness, unless bizarrely, it's common death, like run of the mill Iraq/Afghan suicide bombings. Then it has to be spectacular death. It's a bit sick, but it's ITN. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]])
::::Odd, still does not compute. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — [[User:Rlevse|<b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b>]] • [[User_talk:Rlevse|<span style="color:#990;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 20:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, are you suggesting that a fairly minor investigation into grave management, which has been going on for months, is somehow more newsworthy than a series of riots which cost dozens of lives and happened only a few days ago? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 20:27, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

====FIFA World Cup====
{| style="border:darkgrey solid 1px" width="95%"
|''From future events'':
*[[2010 FIFA World Cup]] opening ceremony. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235|talk]]) 13:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Only the opening ceremony. I'll support the final result. <small> <span style="border:2px solid #000;padding:1px;">&nbsp;[[User:Cargoking|<font style="color:#000080;">'''Cargoking'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Cargoking|<font style="color:#f9f9f9;background:#000000;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 14:03, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
::It will probably be a large opening ceremony though. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Apparently it is [http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0109/togo.html "the world's biggest single sport event"]. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 02:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:The debate of posting ''live scores'' will be one of epic win. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 11:04, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
::OK. :-)--<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 12:03, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:::How about a quicklink to World Cup results at the bottom of the ITN template like we did for the Olympics?--[[User:Johnsemlak|Johnsemlak]] ([[User talk:Johnsemlak|talk]]) 14:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::::That qucklink will quickly evolve into a scoreboard. :P &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 16:54, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
|}
*'''strong support'''kicks off today, should it be listed as per the olympic opening and then again on July 11th?[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 23:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. It [http://beta.thehindu.com/sport/football/article452449.ece?homepage=true seems] to be  [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ijQNiV2Xaf9GJ25VnZWBdLQqOl4A quite] a [http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2010/06/alicia-keys-shakira-peas-take-part-in-2010-world-cup-concert-/1 big] opening. (I found those just by googling [[Desmond Tutu]]). --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 00:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. The opening of this event, the Olympics, and the Rugby League World Cup are significant enough to warrant ITN treatment.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 00:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::?? Rugby League? Apart from three countries, the others are making up the numbers and are often getting bashed 40+-0 '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  01:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Don't worry, I was only joking to wait to see how long someone would jump on me for it! --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 01:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' once the opening ceremonies are over. No need to jump the gun. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 00:57, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' once the ceremony is held and the first match starts. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:17, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' I can't see why most of the world will care about this; it's just a sporting event after all. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<span style="color:black;">tariq</span><span style="color:gray;">abjotu</span>]]''' 04:59, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::u cant use that twice in same year :P -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 05:08, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, don't think I won't. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<span style="color:black;">tariq</span><span style="color:gray;">abjotu</span>]]''' 05:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::Seriously? I'm a sports fan, and I still think ITN has too much sports, but this is either the second or third biggest sporting event in the world. '''Support'''. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 05:12, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' - with specification in the blurb ''for the forst time in African continent'' - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 07:17, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' - Either the second or ''third''!!?? The Summer Olympics and World Cup are by a mile the biggest two sporting events. What about some form of permanent link in the style of the Olympic Summary as well... --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 07:28, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think there's some consensus on WT:ITN for a permanent link at the bottom.  <small>I wasn't sure where to put the Winter Olympics, and was too occupied to look it up. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 09:12, 11 June 2010 (UTC)</small>
:: Ok, so what about the blurb? The FIFA WC 2010 begins in South Africa. Anything else? (first time in Africa, begins with the opening match SA-Mexico, ...) --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::: The opening ceremony took place, posting now - just the basic blurb. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 12:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Eh... where is the update??? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 12:50, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Second this, there's zero text in the bolded article regarding the opening ceremony. Final results only, unless something happens _and_ an article is updated. --[[User talk:Monotonehell|Monotonehell]] 14:46, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorely tempted to remove this, but I mean, the current text is more about the world cup starting, and less about the opening ceremony. Nonetheless, there should be a section about it. And also, should the wording read more like: "In [[association football]], the 2010 FIFA world cup..." or would that end up confusing more people in trying to add the sport. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|<span style="color:#FFBF00">Nominate!</span>]]</sup> 16:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::: That's why I posted a very generic and technically correct blurb corresponding to the article. It says all over the article that it begins today so that's it. Now, it can be expanded to include the sport (though that would read awkward then) or mention the SA-Mexico match (without the result), maybe like "In association football, the match between SA and Mexico opens the WC2010 in SA." --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 16:57, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::: :So... where's the update? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 17:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: At the moment, everything is changed from future tense to present and there is the first match result. And the sub-level articles have also been updated. That's enough prose update for me, regarding this specific event (of course, in cases where a new article needs to be created to reflect the event, that's rather different). The article is changing every minute so I can't say how it will evolve. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 17:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::: That sure was ''a lot'' of ''prose'' updates, I see. So... where are the real prose updates? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 17:27, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Because this was a predictable, scheduled, event, the majority of things that would have been added at nomination were done over the weeks and months leading up. It would have been nice to have a few sentences on the opening ceremony I guess, though it's hardly an important part of the tournament. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:06, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::So... where's the update? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 03:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''support''' why was the post removed from the front page? the Olympics were featured at both points. Agree with the caveat above "for the first time in Africa" should be added [[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 13:57, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
::::There were no substantial prose updates. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 14:45, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

:Nobody gives a monkey's about the opening ceremony. Just put a sticky up already!. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 15:20, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:::We have at least one photo with opening ceremony? - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 19:05, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

====The Capital gate tower====
The Capital gate tower is the largest leaning tower (passing the leaning tower of Pisa) and as the largest angle. I am currently editing [[Capital Gate]] so it can be ready.--[[User:Everyone Dies In the End|Everyone Dies In the End]] ([[User talk:Everyone Dies In the End|talk]]) 04:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' - some may claim this is a trivial fact, but to construct a tower with an 18 degree lean is one hell of an engineering achievement --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 07:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Shall we instead wait until it is completed? We posted Burj Khalifa when it was completed, not before. I'll support then. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, but it just got the world record. Plus this is a little different. This building isn't chasing a height record. With the Burj Khalifa the height was growing by the day. This building is completed on the outside and there's only the inside that needs to be completed. The record won't change for this building.--[[User:Everyone Dies In the End|Everyone Dies In the End]] ([[User talk:Everyone Dies In the End|talk]]) 10:02, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' I don't understand the importance of this building. What is the difference between a leaning and inclined tower? --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 15:32, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' - agree with Daviessimo and considering that this is an encyclopedia and that this seems an encyclopedic current event.  --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:46, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Wait''' until officially opened. Same as with Burj Dubai - we didn't post it beating the height record either when it was broken or when construction halted, but waited until the official opening. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Shanghai International Film Festival]]====
There are 3 film festival in China, [[Luc Besson]] is involved in SIFF. The festival starts June 12 it finish June 20. The new films will also be the part of the article, those can be add during the festival. --[[User:Dialogue.zh|Dialogue.zh]] ([[User talk:Dialogue.zh|talk]]) 12:21, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' we already have the four biggest film festivals on ITNR. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 15:35, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'''. And now the festival has attracted further international interest following the [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iOcXsaaEfKSxZJFswzP-dBrQmjLgD9G8T2H80 decision] of Taiwan to [http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20100611-221675.html pull out]. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:08, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Four film festivals are quite enough. Plus there are the Oscars in our film coverage too. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:09, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 10==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 10}}
===ITN candidates for June 10===
====Afghanistan wedding bomb====
40 killed - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 10:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:Is there a site for this? It would gain more of a chance if there was, although with no claim and disputes as well as the fact that it is in a war zone it doesnt seem as ITN-worthy, but thats just me.[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 10:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::Forty, sadly, doesn't seem that significant given the frequency of such events. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  14:18, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support'''. I don't know what sort of weddings HJ Mitchell attends, though I believe they do not usually involve bombs. This is the first such event I can recall since the [[Mardin engagement ceremony massacre]] in Turkey last year in which a similar number of people died (and which was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&diff=next&oldid=288122806 posted]). The dead are as usual only half the story as there are also [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/10280157.stm 70 injuries]. It is being reported in great detail on several continents so international interest is not lacking. [http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/taliban-bomber-blamed-for-wedding-attack/story-e6frfku0-1225878119690 Australia], [http://www.nationalpost.com/Taliban+bomber+blamed+Afghan+wedding+massacre/3136540/story.html Canada], [http://www.rferl.org/content/Thirty_Nine_Killed_In_Kandahar_Blast/2066996.html Europe], [http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=178018 Israel], [http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_Middle%20East&set_id=1&click_id=123&art_id=nw20100610085138329C582282 South Africa] for some examples. If there is an article (and there doesn't seem to be at the moment) I can think of no other reason to oppose this. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' an appropriate article. Absent a general reconsideration of the way we deal with isolated tragedies (which I would encourage), this should be included. A high civilian death toll and significant news coverage makes it ITN worthy in accordance with our current practices.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 23:34, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::[[David Cameron]] and [[Hamid Karzai]] have [http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2010/06/201061010921894475.html jointly condemned] the attack at a news conference in Afghanistan - might interest anyone in the UK. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:22, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' per above. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 07:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: And now it has been [http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Bombing+Afghan+wedding+kills/3139606/story.html called] "the most lethal attack in the south in recent memory". <code> 40 people are killed and at least 77 others are wounded after a young [[Suicide attack|suicide bomber]] '''[[2010 Kandahar wedding bombing|blows himself up]]''' at a wedding in [[Arghandab District]], [[Afghanistan]]. </code> --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 03:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
*I have to say, I don't think this would be attracting nearly as much attention if David Cameron wasn't in the country, but hey. We have an article, ITN's starting to get stale and there would appear to be a consensus, so '''posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:31, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:The only part featuring David Cameron is one third of an article by Aljazeera -  I wouldn't call that "attention". :D --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 04:10, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Dutch elections]]====
Results are due today (elections were held on the 9th). [[VVD]] and [[Labour party (Netherlands)|Labour]] are neck and neck in the exit polls [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10271153.stm]. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:35, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''wait''' one the new minister is announced then it can go up (similiar to the Philippines elections), right not its too early (although resultds are out and the site it not updated.
::just given it a significant update[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 09:22, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Could we not put it up as-is, and add the PM when he's confirmed? Something like 
:The [[People's Party for Freedom and Democracy|VVD]] win a [[plurality]] of seats in the '''[[Dutch general election, 2010|Dutch general election]]'''
and adding
:with [[Job Cohen]] of the [[Labour Party (Netherlands)|PvdA]] becoming [[Prime Minister of the Netherlands|Prime Minister]]
when confirmed. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 19:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as MG suggests. For the Czech election we posted who won the plurality. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 19:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posting''' as per MG's suggestion. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::Can we change "VVD" to "People's Party for Freedom and Democracy," which is the article title? Few readers are going to have any idea what "VVD" is. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It's kinda long though, and [[VVD]] is a redirect anyway. It would be nice to indicate that the VVD is a political party mind, though I can't think of an elegant solution. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I had the same thought myself but hit the same brick wall. I could probably improve it once the PM is confirmed. Any guesses on when that'll be? Hours or days? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:56, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Some say weeks.
::::but one can say "The Dutch VVD ''party''..." on the main page[[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 23:27, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Except that would be tautological: the 'people's party for freedom and democracy party'. How about 'Dutch political party the VVD wins the general election' or similar? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

====Naro-1 launch failure====
Orbital launches are [[WP:ITN/R]], this one is particularly notable because it has failed. My recommended wording would be "A [[Naro-1]] rocket fails to place the '''[[STSAT-2B]]''' satellite into orbit", or similar. --'''''[[User:GW Simulations|<font color="#115566">G</font>]][[User talk:GW_Simulations|<font color="#496636">W</font>]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|…]] 10:27, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' - This is the second failure in a row. Did the first one make ITN ? I don't remember. [[User:Hektor|Hektor]] ([[User talk:Hektor|talk]]) 11:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
*:Yes. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&diff=309945524&oldid=309930237 This diff] shows its addition. News that the first launch failed was slower to filter through, and it was initially listed as a success. It was subsequently amended following discussion at [[WP:ERRORS]], and it was updated to reflect the confirmation of failure the next day. --'''''[[User:GW Simulations|<font color="#115566">G</font>]][[User talk:GW_Simulations|<font color="#496636">W</font>]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|…]] 13:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::*'''Support''' then, we should find a way to say it is the second failure in a a row. [[User:Hektor|Hektor]] ([[User talk:Hektor|talk]]) 15:15, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::*'''Support''' A sad thing really. This could've made South Korea the [[Timeline of first orbital launches by country|tenth country]] to establish its own launch capability. Recommend: <code>[[South Korea]]'s '''[[Naro-1]]''' rocket, carrying the [[STSAT-2B]] satellite, explodes in midair in its second straight launch failure.</code> [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 15:57, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:::*By the way, explosion confirmed: [http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2010/06/129_67454.html ''The Korea Times''] [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 16:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
*OK, the update at [[STSAT-2B]] is better than that at [[Naro-1]], so I'm bolding that. Any free images that would look good at 100x100px? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:08, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:*"in a month" may not be appropriate because the last launch was August 2009. The one a few days ago was aborted. I will see if there are any photos. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 16:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I changed it t "consecutive". :) [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:16, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 9==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 9}}
===ITN candidates for June 9===
====Orange Prize for Fiction====
* [[Orange Prize for Fiction]] winner is announced. Propose addition to ITNR if supported here. "Orange Prize for Fiction" is a featured list. Open to any nationality. Women only but maybe there aren't enough women on ITN? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)&diff=357806988&oldid=357806963 Hmmm...] --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 05:02, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''', due to the female-only restriction. If there were both men's and women's categories, I'd support both going up together, but not as is. Also far less prestigious than the Booker prize, which I think we should stick with. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 13:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Barbara Kingsolver]] [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10279952.stm wins] with her sixth novel ''[[The Lacuna]]''. She happens to be American as well. ;) --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::<small> Oh wait, she's a [http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article452116.ece traitor]. Never mind then. :P --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC) </small>
:::::'''Support''' more literature on ITN is a good thing. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 15:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

====The [[Armenian shoe|world's oldest leather shoe]]====
*The [[Armenian shoe|world's oldest leather shoe]] was found in [[Vayots Dzor Province|Vayots Dzor]], [[Armenia]], by a team of of international archeologists. [http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/09/worlds-oldest-leather-shoe-found-in-armenia-2] I initially hesitated to nominate this, because this might seem trivial to some, but I think this discovery does have encyclopedic value. Any comments? --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 04:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' sounds trivial to me.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 06:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'''. I disagree that old Armenian leather shoes are trivial. As news, perhaps, but this is an encyclopedia after all and this old shoe has historical value. A current events section in an encyclopedia ought to have space for current events relating to history, science, the arts, etc. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Anyone else? --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 05:48, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' per candlewicke. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 07:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' A lot of people are obviously going to get caught up in the old "worn-out shoe" cliche and instinctively reason that this must be an item of lowly importance. If we put on a broader perception this is important as it helps filling out all the blank spaces of human pre-history. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::Anyone got a blurb that brings out the importance of this? [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 15:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
*The [[Armenian shoe|world's oldest leather shoe]], made about 5,500&nbsp;years ago, is discovered in [[Armenia]]. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 15:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Alright then, posting. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 16:07, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[United Nations Security Council]] vote on Iran====
*The [[United Nations Security Council]] passes '''[[United Nations Security Council Resolution 1929]]''' placing a fourth round of [[economic sanctions]] on the [[Iran|Islamic Republic of Iran]] as part of the ongoing controversy about [[Nuclear program of Iran|its nuclear program]].
** Obviously, I'm waiting for confirmation that the resolution is actually Resolution 1929, at which point I will make a stub for it that can be expanded upon. [[User:Lockesdonkey|Lockesdonkey]] ([[User talk:Lockesdonkey|talk]]) 15:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
** In case I can't write the article, the text of the resolution (barring any last-minute amendments we haven't heard about) is [http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/documents/sanctions.pdf here]. The vote was 12-2-1, with [[Brazil]] and [[Turkey]] voting against and [[Lebanon]] abstaining. [[User:Lockesdonkey|Lockesdonkey]] ([[User talk:Lockesdonkey|talk]]) 16:02, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
**'''Strong support''' when resolution article is created and sufficiently detailed. This is a major sanctions resolution and the votes against by Brazil and Turkey are of some notability.  [[User:Nirvana888|Nirvana888]] ([[User talk:Nirvana888|talk]]) 16:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:Midway has created the article and it looks sufficient. [[User:Nirvana888|Nirvana888]] ([[User talk:Nirvana888|talk]]) 16:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
**'''Support''' Sufficient new article on topic that has been on world news quite often. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 19:25, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
**'''Support'''. ITN has been static for some time now. This and Stanley Cup finals should help ease the flow. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 23:04, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Posting. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 23:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

==== Stanley Cup Finals ====
Just a heads up that the ninth is the first possible night the Stanley Cup can be awarded. I want to bring up a point if the Blackhawks manage to win: should we mention that a victory will break their 47-year Stanley Cup drought, which is the longest in the NHL? Hope I got the correct date this time. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 04:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:Technically it won't be over 'til 0300 Thursday in UTC time. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DC|DC]] ([[User talk:DC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DC|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
::YEAH! the Blackhawks have won! put this up on the front page! [[User:Truthsort|Truthsort]] ([[User talk:Truthsort|talk]]) 03:34, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Blackhawks win. Here's the blurb -- "In [[ice hockey]], the [[Chicago Blackhawks]] '''[[2010 Stanley Cup Finals|defeat]]''' the [[Philadelphia Flyers]], four games to two, to win their first [[Stanley Cup]] since 1961." -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 03:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Ready to post... but is there a prose update anywhere? [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 03:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
*I suggest it be changed to "In [[ice hockey]], the [[Chicago Blackhawks]] '''[[2010 Stanley Cup Finals|defeat]]''' the [[Philadelphia Flyers]], four games to two, to win their first [[Stanley Cup]] since 1961 ([[Con Smythe Trophy|MVP]] [[Jonathan Toews]] pictured)." We could use [[:File:Jonathan Toews.JPG]] [[User:DC|<font style="color:	#002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 06:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think we need the four games to two part, but I definitely support the inclusion of Toews and the mentioning of the drought. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 20:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Conference on Interaction and Confidence-Building Measures in Asia]]====
40 nations have been meeting for this summit. Many heads of state are there, including Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, Turkish President Abdullah Gul, Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych. Chinese President Hu Jintao sent a representive. There are members from all parts of Asia and the Middle East. Quote from [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-06/09/c_13340366.htm Xinhua]: "Secretary-generals and officials of around 20 international organizations also attended the summit during which Iraq and Vietnam joined the organization and Turkey took over the rotating presidency of the organization from Kazakhstan until 2012". --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 00:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:Interesting find; CICA is seen as an Asian counterpart of the [[Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe]]. It would need an update. If there's an important decision made as an outcome of the summit, I would be happy to support it. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 01:53, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 8==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 8}}
===ITN candidates for June 8===

==== Noynoy Aquino elected President of the Philippines ====
[[Noynoy Aquino]] is confirmed to be the winner of the [[Philippine presidential election, 2010]] and will assume the office of President on Juen 30, 2010. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10265552.stm (BBC)]
:Note: This is on queue for June 9 (the day of the proclamation). &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 16:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' Important result of what was one of the most anticipated elections of the year. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 17:19, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:Is this to go up now or tomorrow with the proclamation? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
::Considering we've waited a long time it would've not hurt if we waited for another half-day. He's technically not president-elect until later. :P &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 02:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
::And the vice presidential election could've been posted. The margin was 727k votes or just more than 2%. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 02:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:Well, nobody's opposed, the update is overdue and it's a change in a head of state, so '''posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:00, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The current formulation seems a bit too verbose. How about changing it to
*'''[[Noynoy Aquino]]''' ''(pictured)'' wins the [[Philippine presidential election, 2010|presidential election]] in the [[Philippines]].
[[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 09:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 7==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 7}}
===ITN candidates for June 7===
====Arrest of 22-year-old U.S. Army intelligence analyst, SPC Bradley Manning====
*A bit late, but fairly significant.  [[July 12, 2007 Baghdad airstrikes]] and [[Wikileaks]] articles have been updated with new sections. [[User:Gregcaletta|Gregcaletta]] ([[User talk:Gregcaletta|talk]]) 03:14, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:Plus, it will continue to be in the news, because he has not yet been formally charged. [[User:Gregcaletta|Gregcaletta]] ([[User talk:Gregcaletta|talk]]) 03:16, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
::Could you please provide a link to an external news source and a link to an updated section in an article (and maybe a bit of background for those who don't know what you;re talking about, including me). Thanks, [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:::He hasn't been charged? I don't know how that would work on the Main Page. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 04:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
::::That's the disadvantage of not giving a detailed nomination. Based on that, '''strong oppose''' on BLP grounds. I'll reconsider if there's a conviction, but until then, I feel it's a gross BLP violation to put arrests/charges/whatever on the MP. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  05:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:He has not been charged; he is being held in custody by the Army in Kuwait; US Army officials have confirmed.  [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10254072.stm Here is the BBC article].  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Bradley_Manning Here is the specific article section].  I am not quite familiar with what counts as a "gross BLP violation", can you elaborate? [[User:Gregcaletta|Gregcaletta]] ([[User talk:Gregcaletta|talk]]) 06:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' - Due to the sensitive nature of criminal cases, only the verdicts are posted on ITN (e.g. the Bhopal case on there now)
 --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 07:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:Okeydokey. I'll nominate again if he gets sentenced. [[User:Gregcaletta|Gregcaletta]] ([[User talk:Gregcaletta|talk]]) 01:48, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not going to support because I agree that this case does not meet the threshold that we'd need to make it an ITN entry at the arrest stage. However, I'm (once again) against any hard-and-fast rule that we may ''never'' put up an ITN entry after someone is arrested or charged. Wikipedia has had articles on people who have been charged in very prominent cases, such as [[Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab]], the accused Christmas bomber, and [[Joran van der Sloot]], accused in two high-profile murders. I know different countries treat these things differently, but in the U.S., at least, it is very common for the media to report the name and background of people arrested for or charged with crimes, taking appropriate measures not to imply that the person is actually guilty. I would hope that if Lady Gaga were to be arrested tomorrow on charges of shooting up a post office, we wouldn't shy from mentioning the name. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 03:33, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Helen Thomas]] retires amid Israel controversy====
*Helen Thomas has been among America's most-famous journalists for 50 years, having covered the White House since Eisenhower was in office (1960). Today, she announced her retirement, which is significant by itself but even more so considering the circumstances. She was recently caught on tape making offensive statements about Jews and Israel. This shocked a lot of people, her talent agency dumped her and all kinds of famous people came out of the woodwork to call for her to be fired. This remains the No. 2 story on the AP wire at Yahoo News (behind BP) after breaking this morning and is also receiving prominent play at The New York Times, Washington Post, MSNBC, etc. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. When was the last time we featured the resignation of ''anyone'' (aside from heads of state/government) on ITN? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

:I will not only be shocked, but will also certainly post a long-awaited commentary on the systemic bias on Wikipedia if Helen Thomas gets posted over Choe Yong-rim and Chang Song-taek. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 23:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

::<small>You might be interested in an ongoing conversation on the discussion page about whether ITN is an appropriate place to "fight systemic bias." -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)</small>
'''Oppose''' Worldly significant this ain't.  Heck, it isn't really significant in the US - she's a long-time prominent reporter, but a reporter nonetheless and this isn't the first case of a reporter going because of controversy and certainly won't be the last. [[User:HonouraryMix|HonouraryMix]] ([[User talk:HonouraryMix|talk]]) 23:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' heaps of journalists/sports commentators etc get caught out making certain types of anti-PC/offensive comments all the time when they mistakenly think they are on a commercial break, eg [[Dean Jones (cricketer)]] '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  00:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Can't be construed as genuinely ITN-worthy. Per YellowMonkey, see also [[Tony Greig]].--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 00:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Bhopal disaster|Bhopal]] convictions====
*Eight people have been convicted of "death by negligence" in relation to the disaster, which was one of the worst industrial accidents in history [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8725140.stm] --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 16:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::Support - really interesting - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 16:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Prima facie support'''. Bhopal is a massive incident with huge and lasting global notability. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 16:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*Support. Can anyone suggest a well-worded blurb please? --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 16:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::How about - ''"A court in India '''[[Bhopal Disaster#Long-term fallout|convicts]]''' seven men of 'death by [[Criminal negligence| negligence]]' in relation to their roles in the [[Bhopal Disaster]] in 1984"'' - I've put a link to criminal negligence in the blurb because some readers may not be familiar with its meaning in a criminal sense. Feel free to alter --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 16:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posting''' with a slightly tweaked blurb, so it'll take me a minute. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

On the main page it says Cyclone Phet hit 'India, Oman and Pakistan". Why does it use this order? Most of the people killed were from Oman and the storm started off the coast strongly before going in to Pakistan. I believe Pakistan has the next number of deaths. Its a big emergency in Oman right now so I don't know why it sounds like an indian disaster.  --[[User:Newuser062|Newuser062]] ([[User talk:Newuser062|talk]]) 18:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:I used alphabetical order. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:53, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I think it would make more sense to have it with where it hit hardest. Hope you can change it. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Newuser062|Newuser062]] ([[User talk:Newuser062|talk]]) 18:56, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I can, but I'm inclined to leave it as it is, because [[peanut gallery|many people]] reading that, without knowing the background, would otherwise wonder why they're in that order and complain. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

====North Korean politics====
{{hat|Once productive discussion that soured quickly}}
*'''[[Choe Yong-rim]]''' becomes Premier of North Korea, replacing veteran [[Kim Yong-Il]]. Widely reported in media all over the world today - [http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/Kim-promotes-kin-tightens-grip-over-NK/articleshow/6021585.cms Times of India] [http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7145623.ece Times Online] [http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-0608-north-korea-kim-20100608,0,1307136.story LA Times] [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-06/07/c_13337672.htm Xinhua]. Normally, the change of the [[head of government]] of any country (even those Pacific islands) are reported routinely on ITN. This is not to mention that the change is seen by many as a means to pave road to succession for Kim Jong-Il's son, Kim Jong-un. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 22:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Obvious Support''' as above. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::We all know the "premier" of DPRK is just a figurehead and that all the real power lies with Kim. If the blurb can indicate how this relates to the real power structure in the country -- that is, the succession after the end of the "dear leader" -- I can see it going up. Otherwise, I think it's just geopolitics cruft. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 22:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It's interesting you mention that Mwalcoff, but I believe there are firm rules established for ITN that says any change in head of government or head of state should be posted on the main page, regardless of circumstance. I don't think we have the authority to say no in this case even if this was a totally irrelevant change. (That said, Kim Yong-Il is definitely a veteran, and he is widely known to any country that maintains diplomatic contact with the reclusive state. He might not be well known to the majority of WP users, but that's why we're here, right?) In addition, I also find it interesting that you have the audacity to say "we all known... all the real power lies with Kim.". Who are we to say that? For all we know there is a fierce power struggle going on, and if you check sites such as NK Leadership Watch, you will see that the reality of the situation is much, much more complex. Media often simplify the situation too much for the understanding of the layman. If the premiership was so unimportant, then Kim would not have bothered to make the change in the first place, let alone in a 'special session' of parliament. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 23:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Addendum''': Please also consider the fact that [[Jang Song-taek]] is now the Vice-chair of the [[National Defence Commission]] - second in power practically only to Kim Jong-Il himself. We can add this in as well, as Jang, being Kim's brother-in-law, is probably more important to Jong-un's speculated succession than Choe. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 22:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*Can someone give me an accurate, but concise blurb that doesn't make this sound more or less significant than it is? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:10, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:Simple: Choe Sang-rim replaced Kim Yong-il as Premier of North Korea. Chang Song-taek is promoted to Vice-Chairman of the [[National Defence Commission]].
:We can hash out which links to boldface. I would suggest Both Choe and Chang be boldfaced. No need to speculate on the effects this plays on the succession in the main blurb - people can click on the articles for that. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 23:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::Propose: <code>In a session of the [[Supreme People's Assembly (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)|Supreme People's Assembly]] of [[North Korea]], '''[[Choe Yong-rim]]''' is appointed [[List of Premiers of North Korea|Premier]], and '''[[Chang Sung-taek]]''' is appointed Vice Chairman of the [[National Defence Commission of North Korea|National Defence Commission]].</code> [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 23:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Works for me. '''Posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::::That said, both men's articles could use some work. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::(Response to Collipon's comments above) -- First of all, there are is "firm rule" that any news item of a certain type goes up, period. I would be adamantly opposed to any "rule" that says "all events of type X go up" or "no events of type Y go up." Every item must be judged on a case-by-case basis based on the quality of the Wikipedia content linked to, the significance of the event and the interest among users, which are the only definite criteria for ITN. I think this case fails on those measures. I also see this story is not among the top seven "world news" items on the AP wire, is not on the homepage of bbc.co.uk or nytimes.com and is buried quite deeply at cnn.com. Unless someone can make a case other than "we always do this," I'm going to '''oppose'''. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I find it fascinating that you would oppose a change in a head of government and yet nominate the resignation of some journalist above... [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Given that North Korea is a member of the UN, [[WP:ITN/R|ITN/R]] gives us some direction for deciding when to post changes of heads of state and heads of government. Note that the news item includes more than just appointment of the ceremonial Premier post. Although ITN serves as a newsdesk, I'm under the principle we are also here to feed the curious mind. Readers will want to find out what makes these people significant. They can decipher for themselves what these new appointments mean. [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jh5wF8s4RShkYWY_jOQw8PTfOkeQ Even the US doesn't know all the answers.] [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 23:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Mwalcoff, with all due respect, I see you were not nearly as adamant about this when the new [[Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago]] was elected on May 24. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 23:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I think in Trinidad the prime minister really runs the government. Anyway, I'm not going to get into a big thing about this, but I wasn't aware that [[WP:ITN/R]] had a clause regarding succession of heads of state, which doesn't really apply here anyway because this is about a head of government, not a head of state. Nonetheless, I don't think that clause in ITN/R is appropriate. All of the other items in ITN/R are specific sports events or awards. There is no other ITN/R entry that says ''all'' events of type X must go up, and for good reason. Anyway, is there any way we can mention Kim Jong-Il, the "real" power in DPRK, in the blurb, so as to assert real significance? -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I also now see the solar eclipses and spacecraft launches. I don't think those should be automatically included either. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think including Kim Jong-il's name is appropriate as it's not part of the news item and invites [[WP:CRYSTAL|extrapolation]] of events in a larger picture. The known facts are already stated in the blurb. [[User:Arsonal|Arsonal]] ([[User talk:Arsonal|talk]]) 23:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:Just an aside regarding the [[Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recurring_items#Elections_.26_Heads_of_State|ITN/R section in question]].  It only concerns the results of general elections and elections for heads of state.  It specifically states that "changes to the head of government are discussed on their own merits" and are not subject to the ITN/R provisions - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 00:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::(Responding to HJ Mitchell above) -- I don't see why it's so amazing when all of the major U.S. media consider the Helen Thomas story to be a big deal -- and the major media in other English-speaking countries are giving it some prominence -- while the North Korea item is on the back pages everywhere in the Anglosphere. Furthermore, the Helen Thomas page had more than 83,000 hits in the three days coming into today and will probably have hundreds of thousands by the time the day is out today, while the page for Kim Yong-Il (the outgoing premier) had 2,227 hits all month coming into today. Your issue should not be with me -- it should be with the entire world media and with our readership. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 00:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
*You guys shouldn't bother responding too much to Mwalcoff. A ban would be in order, more or less '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  00:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
::I find that highly offensive. I've been contributing to Wikipedia for several years and not once have I ever done anything disruptive or in violation of Wikipedia codes of conduct. For you to declare that someone should be banned because you disagree with his views on what constitutes an legitimate ITN item is clearly out of bounds. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 00:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Absolutely. I find that offensive as well, just as I found it offensive that YellowMonkey could pretend to write [[WP:FA|(supposedly) useful articles]] at a faster rate, and be on ArbCom at the same time. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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==June 6==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 6}}
===ITN candidates for June 6===
====Cyclone Phet kills 70====
See [[Cyclone Phet]]. The storm has impacted Oman, Pakistan, and to some extent India. The convection is now over the [[Thar Desert]]. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 02:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
: The article is up to date; can you provide a blurb? [[User:Titoxd|Tito<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[WP:FAC|cool stuff]])</sup> 02:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'd like to hear a few more opinions before posting. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support'''  It has already dissipated it major energy, but there are few issues with the article. It needs to written in ''past tense'' and also the number of deaths in the infobox are without any cite. Pakistani media reports says a figure of 2+2+10 that is 2 in India, 2 in Oman and 10 in Pakistan. Defiantly that also needs to updated to current figures. --[[User:yousaf465|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#9B30FF">'''yousaf465'''</span>]][[User talk:yousaf|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#63B8FF"></span>]] 03:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support'' the nomination [[User:Mar4d|Mar4d]] ([[User talk:Mar4d|talk]]) 09:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I have just been through (and updated) the death toll figures on the article and got a total of 44, do you have a ref for 70? - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 10:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. I went with "dozens" until someone can give me an exact death toll. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:05, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
**'''Comment'''. I included the deaths in Punjab from the thunderstorms, and got a toll of 70. I'll re-add that figure into the indirect toll. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 19:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Slovenian border dispute agreement referendum, 2010]]====
[[Slovenia]] votes on whether to approve [[Slovenia's_blockade_of_Croatia's_EU_accession#Kosor-Pahor_meetings_and_the_end_of_the_blockade|an agreement]] to bring [[Croatia–Slovenia relations|its border dispute]] with [[Croatia]] before an international tribunal.  The agreement is seen as the last step in persuading Slovenia to stop its blockade on Croatia joining the EU - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 14:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' once the outcome is known. A referendum on an international border seems quite ITN-worthy to me and it is being covered internationally.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 00:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Wait''' For the results.--[[User:yousaf465|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#9B30FF">'''yousaf465'''</span>]][[User talk:yousaf|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#63B8FF"></span>]] 07:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::: The results are clear. However, the article needs to be renamed, the referendum was about arbitration agreement and not about the dispute directly. And the article about blockade is not appropriate as the center article, the one that should be mentioned is the one about bilateral relations (and the update there). And it's not international tribunal but the arbitration court. Wow, many changes to the original suggestion ;-) --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 15:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

====2010 Oban derailment====
A passenger train travelling between [[Glasgow]] and [[Oban]] '''[[2010 Oban derailment|derails and catches fire]]''', leaving the carriages perched above an embankment. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 21:27, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''', no injuries reported, minor incident in world terms. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' unless the story builds into something substantially more.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 21:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' Falls short of ITN notability by a snowball. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 21:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:hook tweaked to reflect fire [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]])
::Good news, BBC now reporting no fatalities, all passengers evacuated safely.  [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 21:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' and [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Oban derailment|nominated for deletion]]. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 23:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' Minor incident with no international significance. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

====2010 French Open====
- Men's final will conclude - [[User:SiMioN.EuGeN|SiMioN.EuGeN]] ([[User talk:SiMioN.EuGeN|talk]]) 14:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
* In [[tennis]], '''[[2010 French Open]]''' concludes with [[Rafael Nadal]] and [[Francesca Schiavone]] winning the singles titles respectively.

Could somebody update the report, please? Regards.--[[User:Kiril Simeonovski|Kiril Simeonovski]] ([[User talk:Kiril Simeonovski|talk]]) 15:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

====G20 summit====
A major news factor today is that there was '''a whole G20 summit''' with results such as "no levies to Companies" but it seems quite under-reported (in the grand scheme of things) Here's the Reuters articles, do what you want with it http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6550SJ20100606 --[[Special:Contributions/195.74.255.19|195.74.255.19]] ([[User talk:195.74.255.19|talk]]) 13:05, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:It's only the finance ministers- which isn't ''that'' significant really. I think we should post meetings of the G anything when it's the heads of state, but the finance ministers meet fairly regularly. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

====Life on Titan====
[[NASA]] announces the discovery of signs of life on [[Titan]]. --[[Special:Contributions/75.25.103.109|75.25.103.109]] ([[User talk:75.25.103.109|talk]]) 01:08, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:Err, sort of. What they've actually found is a lack of acetylene on the surface and motion of hydrogen in the atmosphere ([http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/titan20100603.html Nasa press release]). This ''might'' be due to some weird methane-based acetylene-eating life. Or it might not. '''Oppose''' since I remain sceptical. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'''. It's only a clue to life on Titan, but it's quite significant. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 02:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::<s>'''Oppose'''</s>. Seems like speculation to me. So far as I can work out, we're not talking about little green men or even microscopic life forms. Or life forms of any kind. We're talking about the possibility that something could hypothetically be living there. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::::OK, I'm not well enough informed on this to support or  oppose, so I've stricken the above !vote. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  16:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Even though its heavy reading, it is much more worthy of an ITN spot than the usual treadmill fodder. It is not merely speculation, it is two confirmed independent phenomena which fit the model for methane based life, although scientists being scientists, they are leaving that possibility as the most unlikely explanation pending absolute proof. I really don't think we should be pretending that an a 'E.T. exists!' type story is ever going to be a consideration for ITN/C, and therefore, this has no merit. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 16:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:its notable enough for the discovery alone. regardless of speculation about titan being able to support life or not... '''support''' -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 16:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::Without the life angle, no it's not. And the life angle is just dressed up speculation. Disclaimer: I'm not a [[planetary science|planetary scientist]], but I ''am'' a professional [[astrochemistry|astrochemist]]. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 16:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Though NASA hasn't discovered life per se, they've discovered signs which ''indicate'' life. Unless, of course, you think that hydrogen and acetylene are just disappearing for no reason. --[[Special:Contributions/75.25.103.109|75.25.103.109]] ([[User talk:75.25.103.109|talk]]) 01:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
::::They've discovered signs which ''may'' indicate life, but may also be explained by chemical processes. Whether this is significant enough by itself is another issue. By the way, the relevant update is at [[Titan (moon)#Prebiotic conditions and possible life]]. -- '''[[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Black Falcon|talk]])</sup> 05:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 5==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 5}}
===ITN candidates for June 5===
==== [[Workforce (horse)|Workforce]] wins the [[Epsom Derby]] in record time ====
* [[Ryan L. Moore|Ryan Moore]] rides '''[[Workforce (horse)|Workforce]]''' to victory in the [[2010 Epsom Derby|2010]] [[Epsom Derby]], breaking the course record time set in 1995

This isn't one of the three ITN/R horse races, but it is the world famous Derby, and the press and the horsey people seem to be making a big deal of just how fast this horse went, in only its third ever race, to 'smash' the previous course record, set in 1995. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 04:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. And support adding to ITN/R. The Epsom Derby is '''The''' Derby. --[[User:Smashville|'''Smashville''']][[User Talk:Smashville|<sup style="color:#03F">talk</sup>]] 18:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

==== [[Scripps National Spelling Bee]] ====

[[Anamika Veeramani]] wins [[83rd Scripps National Spelling Bee]][http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10243428.stm (BBC)], [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/04/AR2010060402610.html (WP)]--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 01:39, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Strong oppose''' featuring any such competitions on ITN. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' National competition at the teenager level, and I'm seriously considering sending [[Anamika Veeramani]] to AfD. --[[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 02:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Strong oppose''' if for no other reason than no-one cares. Well, I'm sure her parents are proud and it's a good bit of publicity for the school, but other than that... I've sent the article to AfD- see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anamika Veeramani]]. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Strong oppose''' with extreme prejudice per above reasoning.--[[User:WaltCip|WaltCip]] ([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]]) 06:10, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Very strong oppose''' because spelling bee ~ trivia competitions << International Science/Maths Olympiads etc (memorising obscure trivia or hardcore problem solving), and in any case, we don't usually even have articles for youth-level competitions (sport or whatever) and we don't need a flood of applications. Aside from the stuff for winning youth World Cups, Wimbledon etc, we'll also get the obligatory nom from the usual suspects for High school basketball, etc '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey#Photo_poll|<span style="color:#FA8605;">vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll</span>]]'')  00:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

==== Oil reaches Florida ====

[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704183204575288970635912434.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories the second picture is funny, <small>because they kind of advertise to be paradise on earth by saying they have the whitest beaches in the world, etc.</small>]

[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GULF_OIL_SPILL_FLORIDA?SITE=VTBRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT AP]  

[http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6533S820100604 Reuters]


Oil reaches [[Florida]], including Pensacola. Important enough for an update, or no? [[User:Sagittarian Milky Way|Sagittarian Milky Way]] ([[User talk:Sagittarian Milky Way|talk]]) 23:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

:Is this really a significant new development? It mostly seems like an accident of state boundaries, something else to tick off on the list of places affected. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:17, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

:: The difference is oil is finally affecting a beach/vacationing area <small>(dependent on tourism</small>) where before it was all marshy areas dependent on shrimping/fishing (and petroleum<small>,  ironically</small>). <s>Other than that, yes, this does seem more of an evolutionary than new development.</s> '''Support as nom''' Any other opinions? [[User:Sagittarian Milky Way|Sagittarian Milky Way]] ([[User talk:Sagittarian Milky Way|talk]]) 01:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:It's easy to act like this isn't such a huge deal since we've had a major influx of oil spill coverage and ITN postings. Frankly, I think this disaster warrants all the coverage that it's getting. '''Support'''.--[[User:WaltCip|WaltCip]] ([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]]) 02:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. With tourism being huge in Florida, this single news story is going to have catastrophic effects on the state's economy. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 11:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Oppose''', as an ongoing item. An important incremental event in this evolving story, for sure. But is it enough of an event to warrant another inclusion in ITN? Has the article been substantially updated since the first ITN spot to warrant another inclusion? Still being in the news doesn't necessarily warrant another ITN spot. Don't confuse incremental news items within an encyclopaedic topic, with the initiation of the topic itself. --[[User talk:Monotonehell|Monotonehell]] 12:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think we need to make the implicit assumption that a large bulk of those who view our ITN box do so regularly and thus wouldn't be much served by being served the same articles "again" (which for the most part, naturally, haven't changed substantially), or would be annoyed by this. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. This shows that the slick is spreading, and I suggest posting again if the oil enters the [[Gulf Stream]]. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 02:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

==== [[MV Rachel Corrie]] ====
Israeli soldiers board & divert '''{{MV|Rachel Corrie}}''' peacefully to port of [[Ashdod]].[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10245176.stm (BBC)], [http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/Intercepted-Aid-Ship-Arrives-in-Israeli-Port-95686204.html (VOA)]--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 18:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 19:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Large-scale international coverage, a significant international event, etc. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 20:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. This is only in the news because of the shootings last week. Nothing much actually happened on this one. The article does look pretty good mind. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Oppose'''. Nothing happened, everyone's safe. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 08:30, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

==== 2010 French Open ====
* '''[[Francesca Schiavone]]''' [[2010 French Open – Women's Singles|wins]] 2010 French Open in women's singles, becoming the first Italian to win the tournament.

The discussion about the proposal is opened. Regards.--[[User:Kiril Simeonovski|Kiril Simeonovski]] ([[User talk:Kiril Simeonovski|talk]]) 14:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

My propose is to announce the report with the women's winner first, and to expand it after the men's final, as a conclusion to the whole tournament.--[[User:Kiril Simeonovski|Kiril Simeonovski]] ([[User talk:Kiril Simeonovski|talk]]) 14:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Support''' per ITNR. In previous years we have indeed posted the women's result, and then added the mens later, with pics of both. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

:The bolded article lacks a prose update at the moment, so we should hold off on posting until it's improved.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:#8B0000">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#ffb612" face="Tahoma">Talk To Me</font>]]</sub> 15:48, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

: Yeah, '''support''' after the article is updated. [[User talk:Fox|<font style="color:#006600;">&nbsp;'''''f&nbsp;o&nbsp;x'''''&nbsp;</font>]] 16:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Support''' per ITNR--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 17:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:: The article is updated, posting. Will be expanded tomorrow when the winner of men's singles is known. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 19:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[John Wooden]] dies at age 99====
American basketball coach and [[Basketball Hall of Fame]] member '''[[John Wooden]]''' dies at the age of 99. ([http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=5253601]) –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 02:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' The best there ever was at what he did.  [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 02:55, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' ''In my view'' (recognising these judgements are largely subjective), not a significant enough person or a significant enough death. In particular, a lack of international significance. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 02:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - from the article: "The John Wooden era at UCLA is unrivaled in terms of national championships. The next-closest school, on the women's side, Tennessee Lady Volunteers basketball has won eight championships with the next-winningest coach, Pat Summitt.[42]  For men's basketball, Adolph Rupp  and Mike Krzyzewski have won four national championships; Bob Knight[43]  [44]  has won three titles and has an undefeated season[43]  (Wooden had four;[3]  no other coach has more than one)." —<font face="Baskerville Old Face">[[User:the_ed17|<font color="800000">Ed</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:the_ed17|<font color="800000">(talk</font>]] • [[WP:OMT|<font color="800000">majestic titan)</font>]]</font> 03:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Neutral''' - 10 championships in 12 years is incredible, no matter the sport, level, or era. Though at the same time, this lacks any international significance, and he was 99. '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red">11</font></b>]]</sup>''' 03:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
*<s>'''Weak oppose'''</s>. He certainly appears to have been the best at what he did, but I agree with Grsz11- this is getting very little coverage outside of North America (it doesn't feature at ''all'' on [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/default.stm The BBC's World news page] nor on [http://news.google.com/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&topic=w&ict=ln Google's world news] and 99 is not unexpected though it doesn't diminish the tragedy of any death. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
**It's second under the international sports section, though. All the world news stories seem to be more foreign policy-related. [http://news.google.com/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&topic=s&ict=ln]. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|<span style="color:#FFBF00">Nominate!</span>]]</sup> 17:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' he's considered one of the best coaches of all time, in any sport.  Also seems to be getting a good amount of attention across the pond (per HJ), which proves there's international interest (which is all we need, not int'l significance as Grsx11 claims).  [[User:DC|<font style="color:#8B0000">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#ffb612" face="Tahoma">Talk To Me</font>]]</sub> 05:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
** Can you provide any reference to support this extraordinary claim ? --[[User:Elekhh|Elekhh]] ([[User talk:Elekhh|talk]]) 04:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Not enough international significance. --[[User:Elekhh|Elekhh]] ([[User talk:Elekhh|talk]]) 06:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' He's widely considered the greatest coach of all-time and international significance or not he should be on there. Plus, there's precident since the Russian poet currently on there isn't internationally significant either.--[[User talk:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants</font>]][[User:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27</font>]]<small>([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<font color="black">Contribs</font>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[WP:CFL|<font color="black">WP:CFL</font>]])</small> 13:21, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

*This discussion seems to have tailed off and I don't think we're likely to get very more comments. I'm going to depart from my own view on this. While I stand by my argument, this gentleman was obviously of some considerable significance and at the very top of his field and, with my oppose stricken, there is a majority in support and, more importantly, a large number of ''readers'' are likely to be coming to Wikipedia to read about him. Thus, I'm '''posting'''. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  15:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
'''Weak Oppose''' Please consider restoring the picture of the Falcon 9 launch.  Of what historical significance is a picture of a regional sports figure who died of old age in comparison?  What's next, a section entitled "Todays Dead Footballer"? [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 15:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::A regional sports figure?  That region has over 300 million people, and over 50% of Wikipedia's readers.  Also, the top story gets preference with pictures.  [[User:DC|<font style="color:#8B0000">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#ffb612" face="Tahoma">Talk To Me</font>]]</sub> 16:05, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Although he was a successful coach, it was not at the sport's highest level. Very little interest to anyone who doesn't follow college basketball (i.e. everyone outside the US, and a lot of people inside too). Nor was the death unexpected. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 16:38, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
'''Support''' - even in the US readership is significantly lower than 50% its still going to be pretty high and this guy sounds important. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 16:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
: '''Oppose''', I personally don't think he's quite significant enough to warrant listing, especially since his death was at that age. [[User talk:Fox|<font style="color:#169999;">&nbsp;'''''f&nbsp;o&nbsp;x'''''&nbsp;</font>]] 16:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''': doesn't pass [[WP:ITN/DC]] at all. The only reason it's on the main page is the pro-American systemic bias that we all know is on ITN. '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]])</sup> 17:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::Dunno how you can apply [[WP:ITN/DC]] considering it is a ''discussion'' page. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 19:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::As the poster, I take great offence to being accused of a pro-American (or any) bias. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::You might have to get used to it. :-D Baseless accusations directed at Main Page editors are quite common. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 19:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::And admins in general! Ah well, I've heard worse. The pro-American bias claim is odd, though, since I display the flag of England on my userpage! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  20:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::There is a pro-American bias; there are plenty of deaths that didn't get on the main page (Pavarotti, Edmund Hillary, Michael Foot) who died not unexpectedly and were way more influential than Wooden. I'm pretty sure there was a guideline on the DYK instructions that "three items should be American". '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]])</sup> 20:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' per DC--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 19:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' We really need to re-think the way we approach deaths on ITN. It's almost macabre that someone's death is the only part of their life that would have got them on ITN. Anyway, it is my view that there is no consensus (any more) to have this item on the template. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 20:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' Quite unelegant way to post a news item with no consensus support. I'm very dissapointed. --[[User:Elekhh|Elekhh]] ([[User talk:Elekhh|talk]]) 22:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' I do not think an American basketball coach is notable enough for ITN, even if he is considered the best of all time in his sport. If Scotty Bowman kicked the bucket tomorrow, then he goes up by this logic. I also question why the death of a 99 year old man is considered ITN worthy when countless times people have said "Their death was expected" when commenting on deaths. And at the very least, can we put up a few more words in the blurb to maybe say what this guy is notable for? Adding something like "Ten-time NCAA champion basketball coach John Wooden dies at age 99"? --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 01:18, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''  I cannot for the life of me see why he is in ITN.  He is of regional, not international interest. Not at all suitable to be on ITN, and another example of the US-centrism of this ''international'' project. [[Special:Contributions/86.159.193.198|86.159.193.198]] ([[User talk:86.159.193.198|talk]]) 11:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
"'''Comment''' The article has had a tremendous amount if views that past 2 days, [http://stats.grok.se/en/201006/John_Wooden around 247k]. For comparison, when the sitting Nigerian president died there [http://stats.grok.se/en/201005/Umaru%20Yar%27Adua were 67k views].  &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 11:39, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Is that the aim? By similar logic probably any [[Pornography|porn]] "news" could get a higher number of hits. --[[User:Elekhh|Elekhh]] ([[User talk:Elekhh|talk]]) 12:28, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::(edit conflict) '''Comment''' I do wish people would stop bringing up popularity, page hits, and number of readers in these discussions. We decide these things by consensus and not votes for a reason; it's quality over quantity. In turn, just because one thing has a larger audience over another thing does not make it any more or less encyclopaedic in worth. If that were true ITN would be full of Hollywood gossip. Measuring popularity is the surest way to give power to the systemic bias that we are all so often are accused. --[[User talk:Monotonehell|Monotonehell]] 12:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's fair to say that any story with the current lack of consensus (6 support, 7 oppose, 2 weak oppose !votes) would not be added to the template, were it not already there. I propose removing it. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 13:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::I think that's a hard case to make- people generally don't show up to support items after posting, as it seems rather pointless, whereas objectors do chime in afterwards.  Happens every time ITN puts up a story that some people don't like being up there for whatever reason. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 13:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::(edit conflict) Removed. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 13:27, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 4==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 4}}
===ITN candidates for June 4===
====163 people die of lead poisoning====
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/africa/10241647.stm 355 cases]. I've started an article at [[Zamfara State lead poisoning epidemic]] but still requires needs expansion. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 19:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:I have added a little more to the article (as has Candlewicke) and it is looking reasonable now.  Are there any supports/opposes for this? - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 20:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support''' a blurb that suitably reflects the slow-burning nature of the story (ie the deaths have occurred over weeks). --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 20:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Well we haven't had an update in 21 hours, so any good blurb suggestions? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  20:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::::The news event here is the discovery (or at least its announcement today) so it should be something like: "[[Nigeria]]n health authorities state that '''[[Zamfara State lead poisoning epidemic|a series of lead poisonings]]''' have killed at least 163 people since March".  It can probably be improved but I can't think how at the moment - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 20:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, could the [[Floribert Chebeya]] nomination from yesterday be checked as well? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Posted.  The article looks OK now, it's time for an update and there have been no opposes - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 22:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

====Launch of Falcon 9====
'''[[Falcon 9]]''' performs its [[Falcon 9 Flight 1|first mission]].  [[User:Hektor|Hektor]] ([[User talk:Hektor|talk]]) 06:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
* If the launch takes place of course. Launch is scheduled for a four hour window opening on June 4, 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
**Update: launch successful. [[User:Hektor|Hektor]] ([[User talk:Hektor|talk]]) 19:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
***Any post should include a link to [[Dragon Spacecraft Qualification Unit]]. Might be an idea to wait for third-party data, all news sources are currently going on SpaceX data, and SpaceX has issued misleading information before. --'''''[[User:GW Simulations|<font color="#115566">G</font>]][[User talk:GW_Simulations|<font color="#496636">W</font>]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|…]] 19:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
****A blurb would be useful for when/if there's a consensus to post it. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  19:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
****Orbital elements are now available, I'm satisfied that it probably ''is'' in orbit, so '''strong support''' per ITN/R. For the blurb, how about ''"[[SpaceX]] successfully launches '''[[Falcon 9 Flight 1|the first]]''' [[Falcon 9]] rocket, with the [[Dragon Spacecraft Qualification Unit]] aboard."'' --'''''[[User:GW Simulations|<font color="#115566">G</font>]][[User talk:GW_Simulations|<font color="#496636">W</font>]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|…]] 20:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. BBC is currently saying the orbital parameters are uncertain but that it's definitely in orbit [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10209704.stm]. Suggest modifying the above blurb to mention the [[Dragon spacecraft]] somehow. '... carrying a [[Dragon Spacecraft Qualification Unit|test]] [[Dragon spacecraft]]' or similar? [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::I would like to see at least one ref in the launch section of the article before posting, but otherwise this is looking good - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 22:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It has been reffed now, posted.  I haven't changed the pic yet (couldn't get the launch pic to look good at 100x100px), maybe we can have a pic of the dragon unit instead - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 08:24, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, just reffed the hell out of that section. I'm looking for a better picture... [[User:Titoxd|Tito<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[WP:FAC|cool stuff]])</sup> 08:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Not a launch picture, but maybe [http://www.flickr.com/photos/badastronomy/3192047456/] would work; it's CC-BY-SA-2.0, but it has not been uploaded to Commons yet. [[User:Titoxd|Tito<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[WP:FAC|cool stuff]])</sup> 08:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Naoto Kan]] becomes Prime Minister of Japan====

Elected by party room, awaiting formal appointment shortly.[http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/naoto-kan-new-japanese-prime-minister/story-e6frg6so-1225875517698]--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 03:51, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:This should be a no-brainer to put up as soon as His Imperial Majesty makes it official. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 03:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::Definitely agree it should wait until then. The article has jumped the gun naming him PM, in my opinion.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 03:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Obvious support''' Put it as soon as it is official. --[[User:yousaf465|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#9B30FF">'''yousaf465'''</span>]][[User talk:yousaf|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#63B8FF"></span>]] 04:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Comment'''. The appointment as PM needs a vote in the Lower House of the Diet, which is expected very soon; possibly already happened, but English-language sources are reporting it yet. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10233665.stm BBC] still not calling him PM, that's probably as good a source as any to watch. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 05:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::And he's now been elected by the Diet. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10233665.stm]--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 06:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''[[Naoto Kan]]''' is designated [[Prime Minister of Japan|Prime Minister]] of [[Japan]] by the [[Diet of Japan|Diet]], following the resignation of [[Yukio Hatoyama]].
::{{ec}} '''Support'''. The vote has happened, Kan is PM. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 06:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree. While he will be "sworn in" next week by the Emperor (in his own time, no doubt), it's the election by the Diet that we should post as the ITN event.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 06:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
* Posted, although the article is kind of skimpy on the details. A pic would probably be nice. [[User:Titoxd|Tito<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[WP:FAC|cool stuff]])</sup> 06:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 3==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 3}}
===ITN candidates for June 3===
====Death of [[Floribert Chebeya]]====
A leading activist since the 1990s dies in unusual circumstances. Amnesty International wants an investigation and the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights pays tribute. The death is reported outside Africa, including media in Europe and North America. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Why is this being ignored? Ban Ki-moon and the United Nations now directly [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/africa/10236747.stm involved] and the incident is receiving coverage outside the country. [http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/06/03/un.congo.deaths/index.html CNN] as well. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'''. Seems a significant event attracting a lot of international attention. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Does not seem to meet the death criteria; not enough on it's own ; and the article is very short, consisting almost entirely of reaction to his death. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Agree with MG. If the article was significantly longer, I could change my mind. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 22:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' There's not much in the article about who this guy actually was, which suggests he might not have been that significant. In any event, not significant enough in my view for ITN. If an investigation ties his death to someone big, that might be different. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 22:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

====MARS-500====
*The '''[[MARS-500]]''' project, a simulation of a 640-day manned flight to [[Mars]], begins in [[Moscow]].
Just throwing it out there for consideration. It seems like an interesting experiment, and I assume that it is the first of its kind. It isn't everyday that six people willingly put themselves in isolation for over a year. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 00:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Interesting. Article has 2 big ugly tags at the top of it though. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  00:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', once the article is brought up to scratch; it does need some work. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::The trouble is nobody knows if they will give up tomorrow or next week. It sounds like an achievement that would be clearer when completed and there would be some more perspective. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 01:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It's certainly not going to end next week; they've already run a 105-day version and the whole point is to see what happens in the long term. Whilst you may have a point about featuring the completion of the experiment, that's sufficiently far in the future (18 months) that we can feature both. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yes, let's wait. Before they surpass 105 days, this will only be a beginning of another experiment. When completed, that will be a full simulation. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 22:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

====Fire in Dhaka====
*Looks like a pretty serious ongoing [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10232918.stm fire in Dhaka] with 61 believed to have been killed. A new article would probably need to be created though... --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 19:24, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:Starting an article [[Dhaka_fire,_2010|here]].--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 19:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' High death toll, etc. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 20:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/10232918.stm 70]. '''Obvious support'''. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 20:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:::The article could use some work (jut sayin', I know it's brand new ;) [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  20:26, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes unfortunately its only one AFP article that's being used by all news sources, so there's not much information to go on yet. This can be held until there is, of course. --[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 20:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
: '''Support'''--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 21:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' the BBC are reporting an expected death toll of over 100. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 21:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support''' as above. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posting'''. Article still isn't great, but it's not bad considering the material available. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:39, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

====Death of [[Kovilan]]====
I've decided to nominate this as it is nearly 24 hours and there is no other nomination. He seems to be important, brought change and worked over several decades. Wikipedia says he is "one of the most prolific writers of contemporary Indian Literature". The [http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=365587&version=1&template_id=40&parent_id=22 ''Gulf Times''] calls him "[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eminent eminent]". [http://beta.thehindu.com/news/states/kerala/article444375.ece ''The Hindu''] describes him as "Writer-patriarch of Malayalam" and says he brought "a remarkable change in the way stories had been told in Malayalam literature". Lots of awards, including "the Kerala government's highest literary honour Ezhuthachan Puraskarom in 2006 in recognition of his contribution to Malaylam literature", the Kerala Sahitya Akademi award (1972 and 1977), the Kendra Sahitya Akademi award (1998), the Vayalar award (1999), a member of the [[Sahitya Akademi]] (India's National Academy of Letters). [http://www.ptinews.com/news/685150_Malayalam-writer-Kovilan-passes-away Press Trust of India] says he completed 11 novels, 12 short story collections and 1 play. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 2==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 2}}
===ITN candidates for June 2===
====[[Last of the Summer Wine]]====
The BBC cancel Last of the Summer Wine, the longest-running sitcom in Britain and the world. ([http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10218448.stm BBC])

I know there are more important events going on here, but I thought I would just mention this. - [[User:JuneGloom07|<font color="Purple" face="Arial">'''JuneGloom07'''</font>]]  [[User_Talk:JuneGloom07|<font color="Green" face="Times New Roman">Talk? </font>]] 17:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:*I'm sorry, June, I could get behind this in a slow news week... but this isn't a slow news week.  Getting it ran as today's FA on the day the finale screens would be my suggestion. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 18:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::*It's fine. Like you said, if it was a slow news week... - [[User:JuneGloom07|<font color="Purple" face="Arial">'''JuneGloom07'''</font>]]  [[User_Talk:JuneGloom07|<font color="Green" face="Times New Roman">Talk? </font>]] 18:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''': I agree with Courcelles. It is not really a big news story. [[User:ISD|ISD]] ([[User talk:ISD|talk]]) 18:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Support''' ''IF'' it is indeed the longest running sitcom in the world, a fact on which I have some doubts. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 20:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

*I don't know but I have been able to find sources saying it is.
**[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5i2wtgtsP0SpAjchpa6ErDk0libZg The Press Association] - "Last Of The Summer Wine has now run to more than 30 series and is the world's longest-running sitcom".
**[http://www.rte.ie/arts/2010/0602/lastofthesummerwine.html RTÉ] - "The BBC has announced that its golden years comedy series 'Last of the Summer Wine', the world's longest-running TV sitcom, is to end".
:'''Support'''. ''[[Guiding Light]]'' was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&diff=next&oldid=314882029 posted]. I know little about either of them. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

:: Leaning towards oppose. And as I see, what I wanted to say (maybe, if it was a slow news week) has already been presented. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. [[WP:CRYSTAL|Wikipedia is not a crystal ball]]. Per the article, the cancellation of the show was merely announced. The show is supposed to cease airing AFTER the current season (which has not begun) concludes. And we've seen in the past where networks have changed their minds about cancellations. Until the last episode runs, there is no reason to post this. However, when the last episode runs and the show has actually reached its conclusion, I will support. --[[User:Smashville|'''Smashville''']][[User Talk:Smashville|<sup style="color:#03F">talk</sup>]] 21:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''', at least until the final episode airs. Also, I hadn't realised it was still running, thought it ended years ago! [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:02, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

====Three Czech parties form a coalition====
The [[Civic Democratic Party|ODS]], [[TOP 09]], & [[Public Affairs (political party)|Public Affairs]] form a coalition against the [[Czech Social Democratic Party|CSSD]] who won the most seats. I assume that [[Petr Nečas]] will become PM, since the [[Civic Democratic Party|ODS]] has the most seat, but that still hasn't been made official yet.[http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100602/world/czech_politics]--[[User:Everyone Dies In the End|Everyone Dies In the End]] ([[User talk:Everyone Dies In the End|talk]]) 12:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
: Let's wait until the new PM is confirmed. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 15:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:Agree with Tone. It will be much simpler to run this when the PM is confirmed by reliable sources. I would support the story when that happens. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 21:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[Cyclone Phet]]====
Just a heads-up for a likely news story in the next 60 hours: Phet could make landfall directly on [[Karachi]] as a catergory 5 cyclone. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 12:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Wait''' until we have clear picture of it's aftermath. I was also thing of nominating it.--[[User:yousaf465|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#9B30FF">'''yousaf465'''</span>]][[User talk:yousaf|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#63B8FF"></span>]] 18:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. Should put it now on ITN.--[[User:Saqib Qayyum|<font face="Georgia" size="3" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Saki</i></font>]] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Saqib Qayyum|talk]]</span></sup> 20:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

====[[2010 Cumbria shootings]]====
Still on-going, perpetrator on the loose, BBC reporting "several" deaths, many injuries, all major UK news outlets reporting (Times, Guardian, ITN etc).  Probably worth waiting until the situation stabilises but mass murder like this is a pretty rare event in the UK... [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 12:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Prime suspect's body now located in woodland, this article should now be ''relatively'' stable, just about all we're really missing is the number of victims/wounded. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 13:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

:[[David Cameron]] just said at least 5 dead in his first ever [[Prime Minister's Questions]]. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 14:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

::Possible heading: "Five deaths have been confirmed following a '''[[2010 Cumbria shootings|shooting spree]]''' by taxi driver Derrick Bird, including Bird himself, in west [[Cumbria]], [[England]]." [[User:ISD|ISD]] ([[User talk:ISD|talk]]) 14:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*shorter version: Five people die in a '''[[2010 Cumbria shootings|shooting spree]]''' in [[Cumbria]], [[England]]. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 14:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*Yep, shorter, snappier version works for me. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 14:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*Yes, I think the shorter version is better. [[User:ISD|ISD]] ([[User talk:ISD|talk]]) 14:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*Slight alternative: Five people are confirmed dead in a '''[[2010 Cumbria shootings|shooting spree]] in [[Cumbria]], [[England]]. '''..? "Five people die" to me intimates that five is the final number, which we don't know at this time. Just a thought. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<span style="color:#accC10; background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</span>]] </span></small> 14:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*Or even "At least five people die..."? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 14:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*Happy enough with that - I suspect if it goes to main page it'll need to be changed as better confirmation comes in over time anyway. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<span style="color:#accC10; background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</span>]] </span></small> 14:52, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::Posting. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 15:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Police have confirmed 12 plus the perpertrator and 25 hospitalised.''' [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 16:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Updated.  Still "at least" though because (a) 3 are critically injured and (b) the police are still searching for other victims.  [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 16:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==== Grand jirga ====
I think we can wait for the conclusion of the Jirga.[http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/14-afghanistan-opens-peace-jirga-zj-04 Afghanistan opens much awaited peace jirga].--[[User:yousaf465|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#9B30FF">'''yousaf465'''</span>]][[User talk:yousaf|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#63B8FF"></span>]] 06:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
: Please, when you nominate an item, provide a target article and suggest the blurb. Otherwise you're just giving everyone some extra work. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::Replied on my talkpage, [[User talk:Yousaf465#WP:ITN.2FC]]--[[User:yousaf465|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#9B30FF">'''yousaf465'''</span>]][[User talk:yousaf|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#63B8FF"></span>]] 18:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==== Japanese Prime Minister [[Yukio Hatoyama]] resigns ====
* <div style="float:right;margin-left:0.5em;"> [[File:Yukio Hatoyama.jpg|100x100px|Prime Minister of Japan Yukio Hatoyama]]</div>'''[[Yukio Hatoyama]]''' ''(pictured''), the [[Prime Minister of Japan]] resigns, the fourth person to leave the office [[List of Prime Ministers of Japan|in as many years]]. 
According to local media reports, says BBC News 24. Seemingly about the US Base at Okinawa. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 01:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' obviously. This is major international news.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 01:25, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*The discussion below in the German President doesn't seem to have reached a conclusion as to whether resignations themselves are ITNR material, but I'm going to post this despite only having one support besides the nominator because this is an important item and I would think that the resignation of a head of government should be relatively uncontroversial. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  01:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

{{collapse top|Prime Ministers of Japan, 2006-2010}}
<gallery>
File:Abe_Shinzō.jpg|[[Shinzō Abe]], 2006-2007, resigned
File:Yasuo_Fukuda_-_World_Economic_Forum_Annual_Meeting_Davos_2008_cropped.JPG|[[Yasuo Fukuda]], 2007-2008, resigned
File:Taro_Aso_in_World_Economic_Forum_Annual_Meeting_in_Davos_(cropped).jpg|[[Taro Aso]], 2008-2009, lost election
File:Yukio Hatoyama.jpg|[[Yukio Hatoyama]], 2009-2010, resigned
</gallery>
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::'''Support'''. I was just coming here to nominate this. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 01:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::My understanding of the consensus (at it's only that) is that (1) if the new new PM is nominated quickly, we will add the nomination as a joint item; or (2) if it takes a while to find a new PM (unlikely but not impossible in Japan) we will post the new PM as a separate item. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 01:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

:'''Support''', head of government of a major power. As a general comment, a Japanese PM wields more political power than a German president.  [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 02:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 02:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' per Modest Genius. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 03:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as above. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 18:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==June 1==
{{Portal:Current events/2010 June 1}}
===ITN candidates for June 1===
==== Lee Murray sentenced to 10 years ====
*'''[[Lee Murray]]''', the mastermind of the £53m [[Securitas depot robbery]] of 2006, is jailed for 10 years in [[Morocco]].

This was one of the biggest robberies of all time, and arguably the biggest conventional cash robbery. [http://www.2spare.com/item_60496.aspx][http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7019889.stm]. Apparently, "Another £153m was left behind because there was no room left in the getaway vehicle" !!!. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 13:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==== Tropical Storm Agatha ====
* '''[[Tropical Storm Agatha]]''' results in over 150 deaths across Central America, causing widespread flooding and  [[Guatemala_City#Sinkholes|a large sinkhole in Guatemala City]].

Combining two entries, the storm with a raising death toll seems notable. I see it is already in the news, but how about updating it with the sinkhole info? --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 23:08, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

==== Andrey Voznesensky dies ====
*Widely acclaimed Russian poet, '''[[Andrey Voznesensky]]''' dies at 77.

He was acclaimed not in the entirely former Soviet Union, but in the rest of the world too. Please make a comment on this candidate.--[[User:Kiril Simeonovski|Kiril Simeonovski]] ([[User talk:Kiril Simeonovski|talk]]) 14:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Died of old age. No more or less top of his field than Bourgeois. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 22:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. Seems a fairly obvious inclusion and another who is arguably more notable than Hopper and at least on the same level as Salinger. His death is not just being reported in Russia either. The [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10208455.stm BBC] describes him as "one of the most daring writers of the Soviet era". So different from other Soviet poetry that [[Nikita Khrushchev]] threatened to exile him, he filled stadiums (not the easiest thing for a poet to do). [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/02/books/02voznesensky.html?partner=rss&emc=rss ''The New York Times''] says he travelled the world "serving as a sort of unofficial Kremlin cultural envoy". [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-06/01/c_13328118.htm Xinhua] describes him as "one of the greatest Russian poets of the 20th century [...] as popular as the Beatles [...] an icon of Soviet intellectuals". Too many deaths but I suppose it isn't their fault they led influential lives then all died at once. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:08, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. Candlewicke makes a very convincing argument.--[[User:WaltCip|WaltCip]] ([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]]) 04:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::On the JD Salinger comparison, I can say living here that in Russia Salinger's death was very widely reported as immediate front page news; ''Cather in the Rye'' is widely read in school here and he's basically a household name.  I don't think Andrey Voznesensky is anywhere at the same level of recognition outside of Russia.--[[User:Johnsemlak|Johnsemlak]] ([[User talk:Johnsemlak|talk]]) 08:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I have to dispute that. He filled stadiums. Salinger did not do that and his fame was based mainly on one book. But fame shouldn't really count for much either or ITN would be full of celebrity deaths. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per candlewicke--[[User:Wikireader41|Wikireader41]] ([[User talk:Wikireader41|talk]]) 14:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::Is there any reason not to post this death? What else can a poet achieve? How many fill stadiums and have their deaths reported across Europe, North America and China? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::: Ready to post. Can you suggest a good blurb or shall I post a generic one? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' per Candlewicke -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 22:14, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

: <code> The [[Soviet Union|Soviet]] and [[Russian language|Russian]] [[poet]] and writer '''[[Andrey Voznesensky]]''' dies at home at the age of 77. </code> Will that work? --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
* Posted. [[User:Titoxd|Tito<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[WP:FAC|cool stuff]])</sup> 23:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

====Stickies: Gulf of Mexico oil spill and World Cup====
In the past, we have only used sticky links (links that stay up for a while) for Olympics. This is in contrast to some other Wikipedias, such as the French and German ones, which regularly use sticky links for long-term news events. I suggest we put up sticky links for the '''[[Deepwater Horizon oil spill]]''' and '''[[2010 FIFA World Cup]]'''. The World Cup one would stay up until the end of the final game, when it would be replaced with a regular link with the result. The oil spill link would stay up until they find a way to stop that thing from gushing. These links would be at the top or bottom of the template and would not have any text after them. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 21:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I suggested one for [[Expo 2010]] on the talk page, though it didn't seem to attract much interest. We may also need one for [[Gaza flotilla raid]] but I suppose it is too early to tell if they can "stop that thing from gushing" either. ;) --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 21:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::Why ''should'' we have stickies? that's the question for me! The curve of viewing figures for a standard story drops off over a period of 3–4&nbsp;days. Occasionally we bump a story back up the list because we think it's important, but this '''''almost never''''' has a significant impact on the viewing figures. The exception that proves the rule was the swine flu story, which was posted on ITN several days before the "panic" began to set in, was bumped and ended up at two million daily hits for a couple of days (for comparison, the Gaza attack story got 61,000 hits yesterday, which would make it a 'good' story, but not exceptional in viewing figures). [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 22:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::The good thing about stickies is it solves the question of what to do with topics that include several daily news "events" over a long period. Someone might look at ITN now and say, "Why isn't the oil spill on there?" It's the lead story in my newspaper." We might say, "We had it when the story broke," but of course it's still in the news. Using a sticky would allow us to keep a mention of it without having to update ITN with every intermediate event during the topic's lifetime ("Top Kill" failing, drilling moratorium, discovery of new plume, etc.) If you look at the [http://stats.grok.se/en/201005/Deepwater%20Horizon%20oil%20spill viewership] of the [[Deepwater Horizon oil spill]] article, you can see viewership has remained fairly strong, in contrast to a typical, one-off news story that surges and then dies away. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Horizon sticky. It would simply be American indulgence, and it could end up staying there for months. '''Support''' World Cup sticky. Obvious cat says that sticky is a pretty obvious one. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 22:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*I might have supported a sticky for Horizon last week, but I think it's just beginning to drop out of the headlines outside of the US now and if we were to leave it up until it was fixed, it could still e up there for months to come. I think the world cup sticky is a good idea- it obviously doesn't belong in a blurb until the end, but many thousands of people will be looking for it and it would be harmless at worst to give them a link to click straight from the Main Page. As to stickies in general, I think they're a good idea, but only for major, ongoing events that we can't keep bumping up the template- for example highly important elections (US Presidential and UK general elections in particular), global sports events like world cups but we shouldn't use them too often nor for too long and they should be decided on a case-by-case basis. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe we should take this to [[WT:ITN]] for the world cup and elections: neither of them are today/tomorrow urgent. Sadly, I don't think there are going to be enough day-to-day developemnts of the Horizon spill to make a sticky worthwhile (even on optimistic judgments of stickies). [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 23:19, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' oil spill item, as there really aren't enough ongoing events for it, and it smacks of witch-hunting. '''Weak support''' on the World Cup; it's a potentially useful feature which would work well, <s>but the last Olympics (winter) didn't have one.</s> [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' Gulf Oil- this is hopefully the dying days of this thing being a daily headline.  '''Support''' the World Cup- for 31 days, people are going to want to know the latest results, just as they did during the Olympics, which was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=344542295 indeed] given such a placement for Vancouver. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 01:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::My mistake. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 02:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Oppose''' Gulf oil item. '''Neutral''' on World cup, though it is one of the largest watched sporting event if my understanding is correct, but do we need stickies on ITN ? --[[User:yousaf465|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#9B30FF">'''yousaf465'''</span>]][[User talk:yousaf|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:#63B8FF"></span>]] 03:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''oppose''' Oil, per above. '''Support''' World Cup, per above. [[User:Sandman888|Sandman888]] ([[User talk:Sandman888|talk]]) 12:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

====Death of Spiderwoman====
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8714974.stm Well?] --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 03:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:*If someone cleans up [[Louise Bourgeois]], weak support, but I'm too tired to do anything towards that end... [[User:Bradjamesbrown|Bradjamesbrown]] ([[User talk:Bradjamesbrown|talk]]) 03:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Neutral''' (more of a comment than a !vote)- death at 98 isn't really "unexpected" though obviously still very sad, but [[Louise Bourgeois|the article]] isn't a ''complete'' mess and this seems to be attracting a lot of attention... [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  03:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. The extent to which deaths are covered on ITN is really a subjective judgement on which reasonable minds will differ. That is why we throw it to community consensus. I happen to think someone dying isn't ITN-worthy except in exceptional circumstances (eg a sitting head of state). That's just my view and if I'm in the minority here I'm fine with that.--[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 03:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::The article says she was an "inspiration for future generations of artists". --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 03:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, I'm inclined to '''support'''. She seems quite an important figure, her death is attracting a fair bit of attention and the timer's red. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Done. Sudden lack of nominations. :) <code> World-renowned sculptor '''[[Louise Bourgeois]]''' dies in [[New York City]] at the age of 98. </code> --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, the timer's no longer red... -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<span style="color:black;">tariq</span><span style="color:gray;">abjotu</span>]]''' 18:32, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''', significant artist. However, I would encourage candlewicke to use a more informative title and nomination in future, since I expected this to be about a comic book character. [[User:Modest Genius|<b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 18:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::Well, it's attention grabbing! ;) [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  18:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I thought it would make sense to use the [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8714974.stm name she was known as]. The name "Louise Bourgeois" probably means less to most of them. I don't usually read comic books. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 18:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' 98? C'mon. In the expected death stakes, she does not look to be any more influential in art than Dennis Hopper was in film. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 19:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:considering that tv/films only grew in last 50 years or so, we are going to start seeing a lot more deaths. this is the 3rd decently notable death in a week. need a better way to determine which ones should go up -- [[User:Ashishg55|Ashish]][[User talk:Ashishg55|-g55]] 20:08, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::We do have the [[WP:ITN/DC|death criteria]].--[[User:WaltCip|WaltCip]] ([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]]) 20:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::{{ec}} This one is updated and has support - opposing because "98? C'mon."? How can anyone argue with that one? :-) J. D. Salinger was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&diff=next&oldid=340382649 91]. I would argue that she more influential than Dennis Hopper as several possible future similar names were listed under his nomination and this woman appears to be quite unique in the art world. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 20:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Unique <> notable. Go find me the JD nomination and I'll tell you if I would have opposed or not, I cannot even remember if I voted in it or not. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 22:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:'''Weak support'''. Undoubtedly notable as an individual, with a reasonable article and widespread coverage of her death. The subject doesn't quite fit my death criteria, but certainly doesn't make a mockery of them. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 22:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. <s>Actors die all the time. We are not actorpedia.</s> Correction, sculptors. She is not a world famous person, or even artist. What makes her more notable than any other person with a Wikipedia bio who died on that day (or week?). --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 23:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::Erm, did you edit the right nom? This lady wasn't an actor, she was an artist! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Something messed up my strike out. But this helps to make a point - if this makes it into the news, please avoid an entry that would confuse her with [[Spiderwoman]]. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 23:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::{{ec}} Here's why. Her death has been reported around the world from the US & Canada to the UK to China. [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/culture/2010-06/01/c_13327094.htm Xinhua] says her themes "made her one of the world's most influential contemporary artists". And yes, she did have fame. So she was both famous and critically acclaimed. That is what makes her stand out as an artist and above the others. --<span style="font-family:serif;">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</span> 23:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)