Talk:Dorothy Arzner

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It is strange only the actresses who appeared for her movie writes it, and not to write the men. This purpose is to hint the lesbians and is improper.--219.104.30.41 11:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Please note that the above comment is most likely written by User:Wbrz, who has a very odd focus on the lesbian status of old actresses . . . -Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 23:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Dmz5 - Are you a delusion mania?--Wptfe 04:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Citation needed tag added

Unlike so many other facts presented in this article, the following statements are uncited. I'm not questioning the truthfulness of the statements (I do not know), but these are major facts to leave uncited in an encyclopedic article. Will the person who wrote this section please include your sources?

"Arzner died, aged 82, in La Quinta, California. She had been linked romantically with a number of actresses, but lived much of her life with her companion, choreographer Marion Morgan.[citation needed]"

Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 16:34, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Sources

• Kay, Karyn; Peary, Gerald (July 16, 2011). "Interview with Dorothy Arzner". agnesfilms.com. agnès films. Retrieved January 12, 2015.
• Atkin, Hillary (October 7, 2014). "Even With Hollywood's Deeply Ingrained Sexism, a Few Woman Have Thrived — Here's Their Story". tvweek.com. Crain Communications. Retrieved January 12, 2015.

--Lightbreather (talk) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Referenced by Anita Loos?

Never heard of Arzner before, but in skimming her bio I was struck by her resemblance to Henry Spofford's sister in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Henry's sister also went to WWI and served in the ambulance corps. Later she found work dealing with the technical side of movie studio work. It was also hinted that she didn't like men...

Seems likely that there's a link.  Super Flooper (talk) 16:45, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Discussion of films

There's a long section describing three of Arzner's films which looks like summaries of various critical articles. It's not totally clotted with pomo jargon, but there are quite a few non-obvious terms (I mean for the general reader) which could easily act as a barrier to understanding. I would suggest that the amount of detail is too high for an encyclopedia article, and the prose and concerns a little too remote. I believe these three longish discussions should be severely pared back so as to make the more general point that Arzner's view of relationships is unique and different than the mainstream, without getting so deep into the pomo weeds.Theonemacduff (talk) 03:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Personal life: Age difference removal?

I’m not sure how important this is, but I’m bothered by the line: Arzner “would maintain a forty-year relationship with Marion Morgan, a dancer and choreographer who was ten years older than Arzner.” Why is it mentioned that Morgan was 10 years older than her? The fact that it’s mentioned gives it some importance, but why? Ten years is not really that big a difference. In male-female relationships society usually only mentions a ten year age difference when the woman is 10 years older, but not if the man is 10 years older. In Wikipedia for a male-female relationship is it considered prejudicial against women to mention the woman was 10 years older and therefore be removed? Unless there’s a specific reason given that makes the age difference significant. If so, then should it not be removed from a female-female relationship? BashBrannigan (talk) 02:26, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

1927 - 1940

"From 1927 until her retirement from feature directing in 1943, Arzner was the only female director working in Hollywood."

I don't believe that statement is accurate. It's taken from the reference, which says this:

"Dorothy Arzner was the only woman director to survive in the U.S. motion picture industry during the studio system's Golden Era. Preceded in the silent era by this Weber and Alice Guy Blaché and followed in the 1950s by Ida Lupino, Arzner worked as the only woman director in this period, and she worked steadily as evidenced by her output — the twenty films released between 1927 and 1940."

"This period" is not specifically defined as 1927-1940. On Lois Weber's page, it claims she did some work for the major studios that didn't pan out, but directed a final film in 1934 so it appears as though there was some overlap. Should there any clarification about whether there was some overlap? Or does White Heat not count because it was filmed in Hawaii, and her "work" in Hollywood in the 1930's didn't get completed?

Thunderbird L17 (talk) 14:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)