Talk:Grunge

FA in need of review

I'm finding that this older FA is in need of a copyedit to rise up to current FA criteria. The excess of superfluous quotes heavily disrupts the flow of the article, making it hard to read at times. Especially in the "Clothing and fashion" and "Alcohol and drugs" sections, where almost every sentence has a quote in it. Just as examples:

• For grunge singers, long hair was used "as a mask to conceal the face" so they can "expres[s their] innermost thoughts"; Cobain is a notable example. Male grunge musicians were "... unkempt ... [and] ... unshaven [,] with ... tousled hair" that was often unwashed, greasy and "... matted [into a] sheep-dog mop".
• As well, since women in the grunge scene wore the "... same plaid [shirt]s, boots, and short cropped heads as their male counterparts", women showed "... that they are not defined by their sex appeal."
• "Grunge ... became an anti-consumerist movement where the less you spent on clothes, the more 'coolness' you had."
• A 2014 book stated that whereas in the 1980s, people used the "stimulant" cocaine to socialize and "... celebrate good times", in the 1990s grunge scene, the "depressant" heroin was used to "retreat" into a "cocoon" and be "... sheltered from a harsh and unforgiving world which offered ... few prospects for ... change or hope."

Relevant and interesting quotes should be used to brighten the prose and to shed light on certain aspects. Most of the prose should be paraphrased from the sources though, and the article should have a single voice telling the narrative. There's also some unsourced sentences here and there. RetiredDuke (talk) 11:59, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Completing the above "review":

• several books (such as Perone, Fournier) need page numbers for verification;
• there are at least 3 bare urls in the references and several others are not well formatted (like 222, 301, 145 and 249);
• some sources seem iffy (www.pmtonline.co is a commercial website, 10thingszine.blogspot.ca is a blog, skin-yard.com is a primmary source, is ukfestivalguides an RS?, punknews.org? Metro.co.uk? sonicbids.com? falseadvertising.bandcamp.com/?)
• Azzerad 1992 is duplicated.

A cleanup of the references is also in order. RetiredDuke (talk) 13:45, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Your comments above have not been actioned, and so what is about it happen is deserved. William Harris (talk) 01:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

It is an awful article, it has to be said. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 18:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

That is why it was demoted from a Featured Article to a class C article, and the demotion was well deserved. William Harris (talk) 09:31, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

"Gribbly" listed at Redirects for discussion

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College rock

Can someone verify that a stylistic origin of grunge is college rock? Roscoe the Horse (talk) 07:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)