Talk:Headstock
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Merge proposed
[edit]The main reason for the merge is that in reading headstock, I looked up machine head and couldn't work out from photo or description what the difference between them is. -- SGBailey 23:39, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Technically a machine head (or tuning machine) refers only to one of several geared tuning pegs - the machine heads reside on the headstock (or peghead) of a guitar, mandolin etc, or on the pegbox of a double-bass or electric violin. Non-geared tuning devices (as found on traditional violins, ukuleles etc.) are usually called pegs or tuners. -- Butterfingersbeck 6 January 2006
- They are two completely separate articles. Headstock deals with headstock (wooden part) function, usage, construction details (straight / angled), headstock shapes and designer / cultural aspects. Machine head deals with geared tuning pegs and nothing more: it's much more mechanically inclined and should give details on how gears are constructed, how they're sealed, how they work, etc. Much more things should be noted at machine head, such as "locking machine heads", and factors that affect tuning stability, especially with heavy tremolo usage. Generally, it is a good idea to have a separate article for every guitar part and that's what I'm trying to prove: there *is* much contextual information about every guitar part to make a separate article. --GreyCat 05:35, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- I've fixed the machine head article, so it's not that ambiguous now. Please check it out. I'm removing the merge template. --GreyCat 23:11, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Add BC Rich Widow?
[edit]Someone should add the BC Rich Widow shape to the 3+3 type headstock shapes, its a popular and distinctive headstock shape.
Merge Matching headstock
[edit]I suggest merge, as "matching headstock" (if it is really a verifiable content) is closely related to "headstock", if fact, is only one of possible variants. --GreyCat (talk) 10:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
More headstocks - please add 7 to 10 string headstocks
[edit]Maybe someone can add the designs for various extended range guitar headstocks. Things like Ibanez 7 string, 8 string, possibly halo 7-10 string headstocks. Maybe also the Ibanez Xiphos 7, it has a unique reverse headstock. Any other extended range guitar headstocks out there would be great too. Perhaps also some Schecter. IcecicleTrepan (talk) 11:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
More headstocks please
[edit]This article currently looks at 20th century US electric guitar head stocks, and would be improved by examples from other eras, other countries, and other stringed instruments; including comparisons with the violin family.--10:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC)Design (talk)
Banana-, Hockey Stick-style Headstocks
[edit]Several of the headstocks from the last 100 years of electric guitars are covered here. I have found little information on either banana- or hockey stick-style headstocks (like you might see on some Kramers. George Lynch also has a wicked such headstock on the ESP Kamakaze) I'd offer that this not only needs its own section in the main Headstock page, but its own page should exist.
- While I'm not convinced that there will be sufficient notability for a separate article, I do agree that there is room for inclusion of a separate "Other headstocks" section in this article. GreyCat, who uploaded the current images, is still active. They might be able to create some pictures on the more unusual designs. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 04:38, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
- No problem, I can do them if you suggest it. In fact, it's a very simple task: one just have to set up a relevant guitar stock photo as a background in a SVG editor like Inkscape, trace the outline and remove the background. However, I'm also concerned with notability and whatever we should include or not. I suggest to include widely recognized stuff. For one possible metric, I'd suggest to look up various custom guitar shops to see if they list such an option of headstock to select or not. Also, I don't see much point to include 8-strings, 10-strings, etc, as they are usually enlarged versions of originals with more space to accomodate more pegs - thus it won't be really distinguishable by an outline unless we'll include peg holes outlines everywhere. --GreyCat (talk) 08:06, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hi GreyCat, I agree that this is a good & workable approach which will help in determining what should be included. Thanks for your work on the current images & for the offer to work on more.
Hi Jsallinger, As the OP for this section, would you be able to provide stock photos, and also to assist with the notability questions? - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 11:07, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ryk72, not a problem. I can get those captures pretty easily. Where should I send them? Or should I upload them to this forum, or to the page?
- Hi GreyCat, I agree that this is a good & workable approach which will help in determining what should be included. Thanks for your work on the current images & for the offer to work on more.
- No problem, I can do them if you suggest it. In fact, it's a very simple task: one just have to set up a relevant guitar stock photo as a background in a SVG editor like Inkscape, trace the outline and remove the background. However, I'm also concerned with notability and whatever we should include or not. I suggest to include widely recognized stuff. For one possible metric, I'd suggest to look up various custom guitar shops to see if they list such an option of headstock to select or not. Also, I don't see much point to include 8-strings, 10-strings, etc, as they are usually enlarged versions of originals with more space to accomodate more pegs - thus it won't be really distinguishable by an outline unless we'll include peg holes outlines everywhere. --GreyCat (talk) 08:06, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
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Music Man headstocks
[edit]Guitars manufactured by Ernie Ball Music Man tend to have a unique 4x2 headstock layout as opposed to the standard 3x3 or 6-inline. (Music Man basses tend to have 3x1 or 4x1 headstocks as well.)
Offset headstocks like these could have a mention on this article, as they are quite notable for the layout. It's likely there are also other companies that produce similar headstocks, but as of now Ernie Ball is the only prominent manufacturer of the 4x2/3x1 layout that I know of. Pepsi Doggo (talk) 02:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)