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The result of the move request was: No consensus, pages not moved Ronhjones ^(Talk) 22:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SCE Japan Studio → Japan Studio — None of these studios are referred to with the SCE name in front in normal usage. For example most notably would be SCE Japan Studio and Santa Monica Studio which are mostly referred to in their articles as simply Japan Studio and Santa Monica Studio. In addition, most of the pages such as Japan Studio simply redirect to SCE Japan Studio, there is no point using [[SCE Japan Studio|Japan Studio]] in all of the articles which have Japan Studio as a developer, the same can be said for the other studios. KiasuKiasiMan (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SCE Cambridge Studio → Cambridge Studio
SCE London Studio → London Studio
SCE Studio Liverpool → Studio Liverpool
SCE Santa Monica Studio → Santa Monica Studio
SCE San Diego Studio → San Diego Studio

Agree Normal usuage is without the SCE. Although the individual articles should make the reader aware of both the Common and the Official names. - X201 (talk) 08:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree per X201. ···巌流^{? · talk to ganryuu} 21:38, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge most of these into the parent article. Most of these articles are lists of the games developed at the studio. A combined list in the main article, or a separate list article for the games, would seem to be a wise choice. In addition, that approach avoids the issue of any potential ambiguity of the proposed names. While we may not have articles today, at a minimum, both San Diego Studio and Santa Monica Studio are ambiguous. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:19, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Disagree with this suggestion. Many of the SCE studios have their own distinctive history, with many having had prior identities before joining SCE and many still having distinctive traits. Numerous content could therefore be added onto each article, which is already the case with certain pages, and can be expanded further as well. ···巌流^{? · talk to ganryuu} 21:38, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose naming them (Placename) studio does not adequately identify them to the wider world, and as a result in a search engine would be most unhelpful. Leave as they are as the SCE prefix indicates more. billinghurst sDrewth 17:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Some of these like London Studio are definitely ambiguous, the SCE aids precision. Fences&Windows 19:01, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. "Japan Studio" is arguably the studio in Japan of any multinational company. Similarly, for some people, "London Studio" is Kent House. 81.110.111.164 (talk) 02:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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"No Heroes Allowed! DASH!" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect No Heroes Allowed! DASH!. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 31#No Heroes Allowed! DASH! until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. IceWelder [✉] 01:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Japan Studio shake-up

Confirmed departures are clearly notable and should be mentioned. Please observe however, the statement from Video Games Chronicle that a "majority of development staff have been let go" is unverified. There's nothing in Sony's press statement that confirms that part of their story. Unlike the 3 producers, manager and single director who confirmed their exit, there has been no social media reports of mass programmers, graphic designers, or audio engineers departing the studio. So the emphasis should be on confirmed departures and details provided by Sony on the reorganization effort. — Niche-gamer 19:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As long as we state "According to VGC, a majority were let go..." (effectively what is in there presently), that's appropriate attribution for this statement. Ideally, if we get more details from Sony beyond what we have from IGN, we can substitute that, but right now, we have limited information of exactly what's happening that we can factually state. --Masem (t) 19:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We are in danger of placing too much weight on a single report that is based on unverified sources, not for the broad thrust major organizational changes are underway and key managerial roles are no longer required—that part is well established—but for the assertion most of the development staff have been let go. Japan Studio is one of Sony's largest game studios employing hundreds of people. There are no media reports distinct of VGC, or any indication on social media, of a majority of the development staff exiting the studio, and there's nothing in Sony's response that supports VGC in that regard. According to Sony's statement, the development studio will be re-centered to Team ASOBI and all other operations will fall under the global functions of PlayStation Studios. — Niche-gamer 00:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is why 1) VGC is a reliable industry source 2) that we are attributing this statement to them and specifically noting that it is through statements made to them. It clearly delinates that "majority of staff let go" as inside word that yet is to be collaborated by Sony. We absolutely do want to be careful with rumormongering, but when backed by a good RS like this, along with Sony making a statement after this was published, is completely reasonable to include with the given attribution. Obviously, this does not mean we should write this article like Japan Studio is gone (as some IPs have done). We're clearly being careful in how this is written. --Masem (t) 00:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request to revert Games developed to previous design

Before the table clearly stated which games had been developed by them and which ones were co-developed. Given that this studio studio mostly co-developed, having that information and who it was with seems to be very important information.DreamsDreams (talk) 14:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)DreamsDreams[reply]

That will not be possible per WP:V, WP:BURDEN. The majority of co-development credits were unsourced (and by "majority", I mean all but one) and would need additional sourcing to be restored. This, especially for games where we have no separate article. IceWelder [✉] 14:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well the list as it stands attributes a staggering amount of credit to what was predominantly Sony's internal publishing arm. The overwhelming majority of games in the list were published by them (with some development guidance up to and including aide in some cases) but actually developed by other teams. The current formatting implies authorship to an extent which is essentially misinformation. Can we not at least have a column for developer so people reading this blind don't come away with the wrong impression? Kurobake (talk) 20:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Defunct?

Both the English and Japanese homepages of SIE WWS have removed Japan Studio from their studio list, listing only Team Asobi. The former Japan Studio website has been deleted as well. This changed happened this month; Japan Studios was still listed on June 8. This would suggest that Japan Studio was closed and superseded by/converted into Team Asobi. No reliable secondary source appears to have covered this yet. @Masem: Any idea how to handle this? IceWelder [✉] 10:58, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately it would be OR to make that assumption from the removal of the name, though clearly an conclusion given everything else to date that we know. Let's hope an RS investigates this soon. --Masem (t) 12:47, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The studio closed on April 1 in favour of Team Asobi according to VGC.[1] Should be enough? IceWelder [✉] 17:46, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, duh, we can use the source liked through that [2] with Sony's quote. "In an effort to further strengthen business operations, SIE can confirm PlayStation Studios JAPAN Studio will be re-organized into a new organization on April 1. JAPAN Studio will be re-centered to Team ASOBI..." --Masem (t) 17:58, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And now while its no longer necessary VGC has acknowledged the absence of Japan Studio on the website --Masem (t) 12:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Team Asobi

So why exactly is Team Asobi considered its own thing? It is not the first time that the SCEI/SIEI development department has been restructured. It happened before in 2005 when Japan Studio was created. Special:Contributions (talk) 18:04, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Yoshida?

This name is mentioned multiple times without any reference, source, link to another article, or even a first name. Who is Yoshida? 135.180.76.68 (talk) 22:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shuhei Yoshida. This apparently got lost in a recent edit. IceWelder [✉] 22:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the correction! Would Japan Studio be a good thing to mention in the Shuhei Yoshida article somewhere? It sounds like a pretty big thing to be missing. 135.180.76.68 (talk) 23:05, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About time someone realizes

that Japan Studio was never a thing until mid 2000's. BUT, correlating SCEJ with it is kinda wrong as SCEJ used to be a completely different division that still existed all the way back to 2013. There must be a way to fix this because mainstream documentation of SCE's historical Japanese development units is beyond f*cked. Yuyuluzu (talk) 07:58, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be better to move Sony Interactive Entertainment to owner section while putting PlayStation Studios at parent section in the infobox? I'm sure it was transferred to SIE Worldwide Studios after its formation, or at least after the SIE restructure in 2016, but there is neither notable proof that it ever stayed a division after that reorganization nor its actual company status. MimirIsSmart (talk) 01:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]