Talk:Naoya Inoue
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Fulton vs Inoue
[edit]Someone needs to make a Wikipedia page of that fight. A fight that elite-level and significant can’t be ignored. 141.163.120.16 (talk) 01:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Age
[edit]Can someone edit Inoue age he is 30 years old its been 3 days now Jjaksema (talk) 14:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- He was 31 next year Lovemuhcko (talk) 23:44, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Article edition
[edit]Alrighty, so it's back and forth between the Canadian IP and myself. Which of you prefers this sloppily organised and poorly written chunk of text filled with cruft, an overuse of year ranges, ambiguously abbreviated sanctioning bodies, championship achievements behind stylistic superlatives, and a pointless double break.. over this neatly organised, well-written, streamlined set of paragraphs which rightly places championship achievements before stylistic superlatives. Time for WP:EWN or WP:DRN? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why doesn't the Canadian IP want to discuss this edit dispute? We're clearly at an impasse here, and I'm not budging until advised otherwise. As I've pointed out, your edition reads like a cumbersome wall of text, puffingly(?) has his nickname and KO achievements ahead of his myriad championships, doesn't use the note thingy to concisely lump together the undisputed titles, calls him "the former" which is flat-out poor writing, doesn't spell out the sanctioning bodies' names, includes way too many year ranges, and who cares about CBS Sports? Discuss or we'll keep going around in circles. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 01:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Personal Life?
[edit]Is it inopportune to mention that he has a wife, whom he met in high school, and three children? https://pkshampoo.com/inoue-naoya/ I was unable to post the Yandex autotranslation because it is blacklisted.
Pls see the initial discussion of violation of WP:NPOV by user Ronten 5 - here #|Naoya Inoue editsNaoya Inoue edits - see hist diff here. I don't mind discussing changes but i'm only trying to edit out pointless opinions. Just because some journalist thinks that Inoue "dominated" and has "perfect" punches doesn't make it a fact. Read an article about the fight if that is what you want, Wikipedia is meant to be a neutral POV. Deaxmann (talk) 01:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ronten5 @Mac Dreamstate Can you help with this? Deaxmann (talk) 01:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- dude you can do want what you see fit. But some of things you are trying to move have stood still all this time and no one has tried to Remove it. You are the only one. But if you think it has no place to stay then give a good reason for it. And if you are dead set on removing it, then you have to do same with all the boxer's page like with Mayweather, Canelo, and Pacquiao. Ronten5 (talk) 03:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just because no one has bothered to change it for years doesn't mean we should continue to leave it. I have given a good reason for all my edits after our first conversation, but you continue to ignore them. Okay, why don't we work together and edit all those pages as well? Deaxmann (talk) 03:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ronten5: It would be better to address the editor by their user name instead of "Dude" and secondly, you CANT edit as you see fit. Info added/changed need to be adhered to Wikipedia guidelines. It does not matter how long the info or who edited the info, if it does not adhere to the Wikipedia guideliens, then we have to change/rewrite it. You have been informed, warned, about WP:NPOV guidelines and also told to have a WP:Civility discussion of the issues in the artilce talk page and not the editor talk page, I strongly suggest read the guidelines provided and adhere to it. Cassiopeia talk 03:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- But your reasons make no sense. All you keep saying is, it's an opinion when it's a fact. Cause if "perfect" or "dominated" is an opinion. Then "straight right", "division's best" "winning" "win title in fewest fights" "broke Amazon viewership" and "toughest challenge" are all opinions as well. Basically the whole page is an opinion. In that case we are going to have to remove the whole page. That's why I said give good reason and remove things that don't have a source. Because opinions that are facts and have source shouldn't be removed. Opinion is when you don't have a source, that's why you are giving your opinion. But when there is a scoure than it's not an opinion, it's a fact. Ronten5 (talk) 12:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- You need to read and understand Wikipedia guidelines about NPOV - content should be written in factual and simple manner - this is not a newspaper, forum, opionion piece, books, magazine but Wikipedia is an enclyopedia. If you want to assert your view on how to write the content, I suggest you to set up a web page/blog or your own and write whatever you want but not here. Cassiopeia talk 19:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just because no one has bothered to change it for years doesn't mean we should continue to leave it. I have given a good reason for all my edits after our first conversation, but you continue to ignore them. Okay, why don't we work together and edit all those pages as well? Deaxmann (talk) 03:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think you should google the difference between opinion and fact. I agree, "division's best" and "toughest challenge" are definitely opinions. We can edit that if you like. If you'd like to keep those in there, we can name specific people who called them the "division's best" or inoue's "toughest challenge" The other examples you gave are not opinions at all. A "straight right" is a legitimate punch, "winning title in fewest amount of fights for a Japanese fighter" is an actual accomplishment, not opinion. Inoue vs. Nery was reported to have broken a record for Amazon viewership, that makes it a fact. I'm not sure how else to explain this to you. Please review the Wikipedia guidelines. They can explain much better than me. Deaxmann (talk) 19:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- You are contradicting yourself. you said straight right is a legitimate punch. well so is a perfect straight. so what is it. 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:16D4:24FF:FE71:36B3 (talk) 23:28, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cassiopeia Is there anything I can do about this? He has insulted me multiple times. Deaxmann (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- How did I insult you. All I said was you are contacting yourself. So where is the insult. 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:1CD5:D81F:8BF7:B66 (talk) 00:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- "Are you slow or what" is insulting my intelligence. Deaxmann (talk) 00:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- But I didn't meant that as an insult. But if think so than I'll edit it out. 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:1CD5:D81F:8BF7:B66 (talk) 00:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't care what you meant. You have insulted me multiple times and then "apologized" when you are called out for it. Deaxmann (talk) 00:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was just talking in a sarcastic way cause of irony, and didn't mean any insult to you. But you took it as an insult, so what can I do. 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:1CD5:D81F:8BF7:B66 (talk) 00:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't care what you meant. You have insulted me multiple times and then "apologized" when you are called out for it. Deaxmann (talk) 00:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- But I didn't meant that as an insult. But if think so than I'll edit it out. 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:1CD5:D81F:8BF7:B66 (talk) 00:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- "Are you slow or what" is insulting my intelligence. Deaxmann (talk) 00:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- How did I insult you. All I said was you are contacting yourself. So where is the insult. 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:1CD5:D81F:8BF7:B66 (talk) 00:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cassiopeia Is there anything I can do about this? He has insulted me multiple times. Deaxmann (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- You are contradicting yourself. you said straight right is a legitimate punch. well so is a perfect straight. so what is it. 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:16D4:24FF:FE71:36B3 (talk) 23:28, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think you should google the difference between opinion and fact. I agree, "division's best" and "toughest challenge" are definitely opinions. We can edit that if you like. If you'd like to keep those in there, we can name specific people who called them the "division's best" or inoue's "toughest challenge" The other examples you gave are not opinions at all. A "straight right" is a legitimate punch, "winning title in fewest amount of fights for a Japanese fighter" is an actual accomplishment, not opinion. Inoue vs. Nery was reported to have broken a record for Amazon viewership, that makes it a fact. I'm not sure how else to explain this to you. Please review the Wikipedia guidelines. They can explain much better than me. Deaxmann (talk) 19:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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