Talk:SMS gateway

What moron deleted the entire list of SMS gateways?

This was a crucial piece of information for systems that need to convert phone numbers to use the appropriate gateways for software purposes. I directed tons of people to this page so they could direct text messages out of their system to their technicians and mechanics in the field via SMS. This was not propaganda or marketing for commercial purposes, this is what an encyclopedia is supposed to be for! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.226.213 (talk) 15:24, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

THANK YOU

Thank you so much for keeping this page and not deleting the lists of gateways. This is perhaps one of the most useful types of articles on Wikipedia. It's not a primary source, but it is rather a consolidation of information from a large number of sources, and the information is trivially verified by simply testing the gateways in question. Please continue to improve and verify information on this page, as will I! PS. Do we really need all the "citation needed" messages when there's obviously no better citation for whether a web site exists than its existence? -- Bilbo1507 (talk) 18:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I Seconal that. Although it appears that there's some cleanup needed, and references would be useful, a lot of the email addresses in the list of gateways seem to be accurate based on prior knowledge. There's another site with a similar list of gateways, so I'll have to try to find it so that we can have some references. I think the AT&T gateways here are more accurate than at the other site however. Although this may not qualify for a featured article by traditional WP standards, I still say this is an outstanding article. I recommend spliting the list of gateways off into something like List of SMS gateways and getting references from a reliable source. A good place for that would probably be from cell phone company support sites, or a search on Excite or Google might find some good sites to cite, but they won't meet WP:RS as a cell phone company's own site would unless a page containing a list can be found on some well-known company or organization's site, such as Cisco or Fox News, and possibly a university site although some university sites have inaccuate information. PCHS-NJROTC ^(Messages) 14:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you AGAIN!! I would also like to thank you. Please KEEP THE GATEWAY LIST ARCHIVE at the bottom. It is utilized ALL THE TIME by many, many people. <Donna>

encoding

do the email to sms gateways convert 8-bit into 7-bit? also can they convert UTF-8 into 7-bit or UTF-16 as per what the cells can support? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.82.65 (talk) 01:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Software

what about gateway software -- open source? IF SOMEONE WANTS TO REMOVE THE SMS GATEWAY - LIST REMOVE THEM ALL AND NOT SOME. TELCO OR NOT!! THIS IS A REFERENCE SITE. TELCO ADVERTISE TOO. EITHER KEEP THEM ALL OR REMOVE THEM ALL !!!! IF YOU REMOVE THEM - THIS SITE IS RELEVANT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.2.241.102 (talk) 02:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Free gateways outdated

I clicked on a few, and could not find a free product on their site. I am suspicious that companies are using that field to advertise. I suspect also that some of the other lists are also outdated, as the commercial provider I use (Clickatell) isn't listed. I don't have enough authoritative information to make a significant revision to any of these fields though. Fehrgo 03:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

yeah, sure looks like advertising. preferred vendor??? --Gmorten1 14:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

If a company or individual is trying to advertise here, revert, warn, and block if need be. PCHS-NJROTC ^(Messages) 14:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I've had a big clear out

The dubious unsourced 'history' has gone, as have all the lists of links, products and services. akaDruid (talk) 10:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The list of gateways

Should we keep it, or get rid of it? I don't mind either way but some people want to remove it. The problem with it is that a lot of them might not work any more, they might be changed its hard to verify them. I linked a copy of the list on my own server, but the problem with that is nobody can update that, so if the list was hosted on Wikipedia it would be ever so slightly more up to date. Towel401 (talk) 13:32, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there is any question about this. While I can see the utility of a list like this, WP policy is very clear on this: lists of external links like this are not permitted. WP:EL and WP:NOT are among the policy pages which cover this. akaDruid (talk) 10:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Ever here about ignore all rules? Maybe it should be split off into its own page, like perhaps List of SMS gateways. I think that if information is useful to readers, then it should be kept. Now Wikipedia is not just a collection of random information, so I think that only the carrier provided gateways should be kept if any are kept. Furthermore, the list of gateways allows readers to better understand what we're talking about in the article much like an image would. Alas, however, Wikipedia is not a directory, so if we look at it that way... But WP is not censored, so I'm opposed to removing information that people find useful. Which comes first: Wikipedia readers finding what they want or Wikipedia policies? WP:NOTCENSORED states that some content may be objectional to some readers and implies that this only cover obscenity, profanity, etc, but remember that censorship isn't always the filtering of sexual material. PCHS-NJROTC ^(Messages) 15:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

removal of list

While it is true that the list might have had to be removed because "lists of external links" "are not permitted", the list you have drastically removed contained much more than external links to gateways. It also contained instructions about how to convert a mobile telephone number to an email address.

You could have deleted only the links, and kept the instructions. Please let me provide an example of what I am suggesting you do: in the case of T-mobile you could have just deleted the link to "http://www.t-mobile.com/messaging/", and kept "number@tmomail.net".

These lists of instructions about how to convert mobile numbers to email addresses are rather difficult to find. And in fact I have not seen any more complete than the one recently erased from wikipedia. Please reconsider what you have done! It will be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.102.61 (talk) 08:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Searching for "sms gateway" or "sms gateways" on google yields this page as the first result. The list is probably more static than the moderator would like to think. It is a valuable resource for finding the email sms gateways for different providers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.37.242 (talk) 03:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

There are no moderators on WP but there are policies. Wikipedia is not a directory and not a how-to guide. akaDruid (talk) 11:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

If you want to create a wiki page for non-encyclopedic content, have a look at Wikia. akaDruid (talk) 11:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Constructive Edits

Why do we have a blank section about Email to SMS if we don't have any information in it. My suggestion is short and sweet:

Email can be sent to many cell phone providers using the phone number and then an @provider.com suffix.

This is very encyclopedic as it provides information that a passerby looking for encyclopedic information would find. I can't fight you anymore otherwise violate the 3 RR - but this is a good section to add. If not, please explain why, you fail to do so. 209.152.84.17 (talk) 16:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why we need it as a title. If you want to add that go ahead. Might be worth noting that email-to-sms is mostly only in the USA and a couple of other places, probably because in most countries the provider charges the sender for sms and not the reciever. At any rate, I've given up trying to get this page in line with WP policy. akaDruid (talk) 13:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I like the Email to SMS section. It's very useful for me, as a software developer. Please do not remove. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.14.228.89 (talk) 23:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I too enjoyed this very convenient page of information as my husband sells cell phones and I am able to help the people purchasing. I have searched the internet multiple times and was able to find this page, until today. I am very sad that no consideration is given for people needing this service that the carrier doesn't really offer up and explain. Wiki is supposed to assist and see their way around such rules so that un-biased information is made available to the masses. What happened? Wiki please take some time to re-post the page in an acceptable manor according to the Policy.

References

Rewrite

I suggest a rewrite is required. I can see the following things that need changing:

1. The intro article has to explain what an SMS Gateway is (or list all things it can be).
2. All the unreferenced claims (like the Orange crash, and e2sms) have to be referenced or deleted as per the Verifiability Policy.
3. All the spam links have to be removed. I would suggest that the only mobile carriers who can justify a wikipedia article can justify an entry here.

The only content that I can see that has a reference are the intro section on Quality of service, whose reference is locked behind a paywall anyway, and the short section of labelled "Mobile 'hub' to SMS", which has one broken reference, and another that does says something different to the article text. This directly contradicts the policy which linked in bold below every edit box: Encyclopedic content must be verifiable..

I will make a start but I would appreciate comments and assistence. akaDruid (talk) 13:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I've had a clean up, and also split the list of links into two sections, Carrier provided gateways, and third party gateways. I have not put any links into the third party gateway section as I don't think there is a way of doing this in a verifiable fashion or without failing to meet the Wikipedia:External links or Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not guidelines. akaDruid (talk) 14:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully this should also make it much easier to spot spam links too akaDruid (talk) 14:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

This article was somewhat helpful to me, but I still don't know how to send a SMS message to a DIGI cell phone provider (in Malaysia), nor has their web site given me any hint. Yes, maybe I am looking for a how-to guide, but I don't see much of a problem with more information here than this article provides. dthomsen8 07:30 19 May 2008 (Malaysia time) —Preceding undated comment was added at 23:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I've recently done a clean up. Hopefully a full rewrite won't be necessary. Please continue to help improve the article. Thanks. --Hm2k (talk) 13:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Carrier-Provided SMS to E-Mail Gateways Merge

The Carrier-Provided SMS to E-Mail Gateways section can now be merged into List_of_carriers_providing_SMS_transit. --Hm2k (talk) 13:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

 Done --Hm2k (talk) 20:28, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Tested SMS & MMS Transit Addresses

The section "Tested SMS & MMS Transit Addresses" will be removed as it is clearly original research. I recommend you transwiki outside of Wikipedia it if you wish to keep it. --Hm2k (talk) 16:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

List of SMS Gateways

Here is the archive for the old SMS gateway list, https://web.archive.org/web/20130906122931/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways

Unfortunately it's missing entries added between 6th Sept and the 1st Nov deletion date — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aciidic (talk • contribs) 14:55, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

What the heck? The list was kicked out of here into its own article--and then that article later deleted for not providing "enough context to identify the subject"? (For those having difficulty finding the log like me, see: Special:Log?page=List of SMS gateways) One editor suggests copying it to another project where such a directory would be in scope. Might it be welcome on Wikivoyage:? There's the start of a directory of carriers at Wikivoyage:Mobile telephones. Not R (talk) 05:14, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

The paper where some text in the article was from

IJCSI International Journal of Computer Science Issues, Vol. 10, Issue 2, No 1, March 2013. http://ijcsi.org/papers/IJCSI-10-2-1-49-52.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.188.187.243 (talk) 14:28, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

What is SMSC?

What does SMSC mean? The article uses it twice in the Gateway types section and doesn't explain it. Acronyms should be explained BEFORE use, or at the first use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.97.62.77 (talk) 22:00, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

@88.97.62.77:  Done I defined the abbreviation. —LLarson (said & done) 12:48, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Properly adding new carrier information

I would like to add the information of a U.S. based carrier, who doesn't even seem to have a wikipedia page. I am also not sure if I can get in trouble for this, or even mentioning them, even in this talk page, without at least a link to their website. Any assistance would be appreciated. Stuxk (talk) 09:01, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

What is this? Stuxk (talk) 19:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)