Talk:Shires of Scotland

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Invention of a term to refer to entities is counter to Wikipedia policy

Inventing a new term like "New Regional Local Government administration areas", and even using it as a header, is just plain silly. But, apart from the obvious common-sense argument, a stronger argument is that it breaches official policy here at Wikipedia: WP:VERIFY. We base our articles on what reliable external sources say, not on what inventive new Users make up in their own heids. --Mais oui! (talk) 04:25, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Local Government Council Administrative areas

Refer Subdivisions of Scotland "The council areas have been in existence since 1 April 1996, under the provisions of the Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994. Other administrative bodies (some of which are described below) still follow boundaries derived from older local government arrangements." Is that clear enough ? Scotire (talk) 07:38, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You have clearly not made the slightest effort to familiarise yourself with elementary Wikipedia guidelines and policy. Here is a top tip: we base our work on reliable external sources. Please note that other Wikipedia articles are internal sources, and are therefore invalid. Further, you are simply putting your own personal interpretation on primary sources. These really are at the primary school level when it comes to basic Wikipedia competence. You'd better brush up pronto or you will never make it to S1.

Your work to date has been so sub-standard as to be considered disruptive. It will take other editors many hours to go through and either delete or correct your multitude of overly-bold, poor edits (almost all of which lack an edit summary). So step back and do some basic research into the Wikipedia way of working. --Mais oui! (talk) 07:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

((\exists\,x)(\forall\,y)F(x,y))\,\text{and}\,((\forall\,x)(\exists\,y)F(x,y))\,\text{and}\,(\neg\,(\forall\,x)(\forall\,y)F(x,y)) Scotire (talk) 14:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reply from SCOTIRE, which, from necessity is out of order of course ! Oh Yes! you mention primary school level. You can start at grade 1 level and see if you can get it right this time,

1 (County) + 1 (Local Government Administration) = 2 (County + Local Government Administration).

2 (County + Local Government Administration) - 1 (Local Government Administration) = 1 (County)

and

1 county (Dumfriesshire) + 1 county (Kirkcudbrightshire) + 1 county (Wigtownshire) = Dumfries and Galloway Regional Council area.

Scotire (talk) 16:52, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mais oui! You cast questionable slurs the abilities of other editors, some with probably more and better degrees than you possess, who have already gone through them.Scotire (talk) 17:02, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "Counties of Cities"

Working backwards from the use of the phrase in the 1947 Act, I can't find anything to suggest the phrase (distinct from simply "city") actually has any validity WRT Scotland. It appears once in the 1889 Act but with no definition, suggesting that it might have been carelessly cribbed from prior English legislation. I have never encountered use of the phrase as a description in e.g. civil registration records in Scotland while it was a standard description in England.MBRZ48 (talk) 04:06, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shires or Counties ?

This article should be renamed as Counties of Scotland as in Scotland counties are not referred to as "shires". Jamie Stuart (talk) 15:15, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Jamie Stuart 11 - They quibbled high, they quibbled low... I understand this to be well intentioned in as far as forums go, but please provide a couple of reliably sourced texts and citations, please? Iryna Harpy (talk) 02:07, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Local Government (Scotland) Act 1889 called them "counties" and gave them "county councils".[1] The Local Government (Scotland) Act 1947 called them "counties".[2] The Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 called them "counties".[3] The National Records of Scotland, National Library of Scotland and Historic Environment Scotland continue to call them "counties".[4] It seems fairly clear that "counties" is both the official and the standard name for these. JimmyGuano (talk) 16:36, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]