Talk:The Feels (song)

GA Review

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Nominator: Lililolol (talk · contribs) 21:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 18:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I will do this today now!! --K. Peake 18:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• JYPE Studios → JYPE in the infobox per Template:Infobox song
• Mention in the first sentence that it was "recorded for their third Korean studio album, Formula of Love: O+T=＜3 (2021)." with the wikilink
• The lead is quite short, so you could do with writing out the songwriters and producers in the background section and then it can be included here too
• Remove pipe on groovy here per MOS:LINKSTYLE
• Pipe synth to Synthesizer
• "Its lyrics are about the protagonist's" → "The lyrics are about the protagonist's"
• "best-of lists by" → "best-of lists by the likes of"
• The chart position seem poorly laid out; not only should South Korea probably be first since that is where the group are from, but New Zealand is not notable when it is only a Hot Singles chart and why is the Netherlands position not mentioned when lower positions are? Also, change the UK to the United Kingdom
• "went on to get certified Gold by" → "was certified gold by"
• Remove the amount of units or streams each certification represents
• "In Japan, it was certified Platinum by" → "In Japan, it was certified platinum by"

Background

• "Cry for Me" is not mentioned by the source – "What You Waiting For" is though, a song later mentioned in this section too
• "on their first Japanese album," → "on the group's first Japanese album,"
• Delete the 2018 Japanese film since this is not notable
• The 10th EP's release is not sourced
• "On August 23, JYP Entertainment" → "On August 23, 2021, JYP Entertainment"
• Using this, I would add the group's comments about it being their first English single and they also mentioned a desired to communicate to audiences in the United States that is notable

Music and lyrics

• Audio sample looks good!
• ""The Feels" is a" → "Musically, "The Feels" is a"
• There is a drum that should be added in prose; maybe move the part after the genre and tempo of the current opening sentence to a new sentence and include this with that?
• The first comma should be before group member rather than explained
• "saying, "the song is about falling" → "saying, "The song is about falling"
• Add the release years in brackets of "Like Ooh-Ahh" and "Cheer Up"
• I think adding the refrain to this section would be worth it

Critical reception

• Retitle to Reception and merge commercial performance per that being one para
• "received generally positive reviews" → "was met with generally positive reviews"
• Add the release year of Eyes Wide Open
• "that resembles "their early tracks"." → "that resembles the optimism of their earlier work."
• Remove wikilink on NME at the list since they are linked at the start of this section
• Mention the name of the NME and Rolling Stone reviewers who made these comments
• Remove pipe on chorus
• The year-end lists sentence is not needed when you already added enough in prose and the rest are displayed beneath

Commercial performance

• This should be a sub-section, below the rankings
• The information feels disordered; I would move South Korea to first per it being their home country and the global streams and Global 200 to last since this is more of a finalization, as it is worldwide
• You should mention along with the United States stats the position it entered the Billboard Hot 100 at
• "peaked at number 3" → "peaked at number three" per MOS:NUM and Japan should be the second country since it is the closest to South Korea and then have the New Zealand, Malaysia, and Singapore positions
• Add the Japanese certification in prose
• "the group's second entry" → "becoming Twice's second entry"
• You need a source for it being their first song to chart on the UK Singles Chart
• "landed at no. 40" → "landed at number 40"
• "received a Gold certification" → "received a gold certification" and mention this was in the US with the number of certified units signified

Release and promotion

• Move this to being the section before reception
• Pre-orders are not showing as sourced, unless that is my Google translator's issue; if not sourced, please simply change to one sentence that mentions the release date they announced on September 3 too
• If the single release date is not added in the above sentence, mention it in one afterwards please
• "with a performance of" → "with performances of" although the Stephen Colbert one is not sourced and add that these performances were during 2021
• Chaeyoung should not be wikilinked and the member writing these lyrics is unsourced

Music video

Background

• Wikilink music video, although the director is not mentioned by the source
• "on JYP Entertainment's official social media channels" → "on JYP Entertainment's official YouTube channel" per the source's video
• "of the 1995 movie" → "of the 1995 film"
• The last sentence reads repetitively; reword it to either stating they announced or teased their third Korean album and third tour at the end of the video

Synopsis and reception

• Img looks good!
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on prom
• ""deluxe wardrobe that the girls are hanging out in."" → ""deluxe wardrobe" that Twice appear in."
• "Then it shows the members" → "Then, the video shows the members"
• "on their evening."" → "on their evening"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "The Twice members take a break..." the quote should end here and put this new sentence into your own words, per MOS:OVERQUOTE
• Mention the poster ending scene that teases their next album and tour
• Wikilink Rolling Stone India to itself per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "included it in their list" → "included the music video in their list"
• The visual losing to "Lalisa" is not sourced; either source this or only keep the mention of the nomination if not

Track listing

• Good

Credits and personnel

• Use Sub-headings instead of sub-sections
• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel
• Engineer should only be linked on the first instance and keep as audio engineer link

Charts

Weekly charts

• The Netherlands chart position is not sourced

Year-end charts

• Good

Certifications

• Good

Notes

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks too high at 42.4%; this should be fixed once you chop down quoting from Billboard in the music video section
• Wikilink NME on ref 1
• Cite KBS Media as publisher instead, wikilink Naver here instead of any later refs and fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 3
• Wikilink iTunes as publisher and fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 4 that only apply to the song's title here
• Cite iTunes as publisher on refs 5, 6, 59 and 61
• Wikilink South China Morning Post on ref 7
• Pipe Herald Pop to Herald Corporation on ref 8
• Pipe Sports Dong-A to The Dong-a Ilbo on ref 10
• Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 11
• Pipe SPOTV News to SPOTV on ref 12
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 15
• Pipe Bustle to Bustle (magazine) and fix MOS:QWQ issues on ref 17
• WP:OVERLINK of Korea JoongAng Daily]] on ref 18
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 20, 47 and 55
• Wikilink The Harvard Crimson on ref 21
• Cite Mashable as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 22
• Wikilink Rolling Stone on ref 24
• Pipe Insider to Insider (website) per MOS:LINK2SECT on ref 25
• Pipe Pitchfork to Pitchfork (website) on ref 26
• I am not sure about the reliability of ref 27; can you point to any editorial team or evidence of general reliability?
• Cite Gaon Music Chart as publisher instead on ref 35
• Remove or replace Forbes from ref 37 per WP:FORBES
• WP:OVERLINK of The Korea Herald on ref 37
• Cite Recording Industry Association of Malaysia as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 41
• Wikilink Recording Industry Association Singapore on ref 42
• Wikilink Twitter and cite as via instead on ref 46
• Cite Apple Music as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 49
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues and cite YouTube as publisher instead on ref 50
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues, date formatting and wikilink Elite Daily on ref 51
• Pipe People to People (magazine) on ref 54
• Wikilink Rolling Stone India on ref 57
• Cite Spotify as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 60
• Cite Melon as publisher instead on ref 62

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; this should not take too long, apologies for my delay! --K. Peake 21:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

  @Kyle Peake I believe I've fixed everything except for source number 27, which is not reliable. What is it called? Lililolol (talk) 20:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  @Lililolol Sorry the refs numbers became a bit jumbled, this was referring to Philstar Life. --K. Peake 21:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  @Kyle Peake All done. Lililolol (talk) 19:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  Lililolol Thank you for the response, sorry I could not get back to you until now I was busy the past two nights. The issue still persisting are that "The Feels" is a" needs to → "Musically, "The Feels" is a", refs have MOS:QWQ and MOS:CAPS issues in some places still when you are using multiple speech marks inside titles and capitalizing words that should not be and change Recording Industry Association of Malaysia to publisher. Most importantly of all, overquote is still in use for the music video section and this is also causing the article to be non-compliant with copyvio, as is the overquoting from Bustle and Bollywood Hungama. --K. Peake 07:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Kyle Peake Hi, I fixed everything except for MOS:QWQ because, honestly, I'm not sure how. Lililolol (talk) 19:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

  Lililolol Thanks for your honesty – the QWQ issues refer to when you have placed double speech marks ("") inside references yourself – take ref 24 as a good example. --K. Peake 21:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Lililolol Going to clarify it here: He's saying not to use "double speech" marks, use 'single speech' marks, since the ref has double speech marks in it. That's how it's a MOS:QWQ issue. Only fix that in refs 3, 22, 24, 51 and 55. — VAUGHAN J. (t · c) 08:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Vaughan J. Thank you. I got it now Lililolol (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Kyle Peake Sorry for the delayed response. I have now finished everything. Lililolol (talk) 19:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, took your time Lililolol but does not matter at all since you got here in the end! --K. Peake 21:01, 5 June 2024 (UTC)