Talk:Tom Benson

NPOV

Despite any person's views on the rumors about Tom Benson moving the Saints permanantly out of New Orleans, POV attacks and slander without credible third party evidence will not be tolerated! Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:39, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

• I've added what I consider to be an extensive NPOV section on the team's possible relocation. I did not provide links to the source newspaper articles, since the New Orleans Saints article doesn't cite any, but I can provide sources if someone feels they're necessary. The information here is as neutral as I feel it can be; if anyone disagrees, let's discuss it rather than revert this change outright. Andrewdupont 03:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

• • Thank you! It is much better than the POV rants that have plagued this article recently. But it will help a lot iif you could please list sources. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

• • • OK, added inline links to newspaper articles. There are still some minor points in there that do not reference the news articles from which they come, but the major news is all cited. If I get time I'll try to add these sources to the New Orleans Saints article and clean that section up on the whole. This story is only going to get more complicated over time. Andrewdupont 14:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

• • Nice job! As much as I agree with (and was amused by) the various POV attacks that were posted recently, I feel this is much more appropriate for Wikipedia. Besides, there should be no need for personal attacks when the facts clearly speak for themselves. 24.162.95.111 06:11, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

The reference to the Charlotte Hornets baseball team is incorrect. Those Hornets moved first to Nashville, where they spent two years as the Nashville Xpress, then to Wilmington, N.C., where they spent two years as the Port City Roosters, and finally to Mobile, Ala., where they remain today as the Mobile BayBears. New Orleans had NO affiliated baseball teams after the 1977 Pelicans moved to Springfield, Ill., until the Zephyrs moved there. I haven't researched independent ball, and don't intend to, but no independent team could be the Charlotte Hornets cited here - because that team wasn't independent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100D:B006:D31E:2487:159F:32B:D4BF (talk) 15:52, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I think you're speaking to the paragraph on the Charlotte Knights. I can't seem to source the statement in the article and have removed it. Kuru (talk) 16:11, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

The details need some attention, but sources do substantiate that Benson had a deal to buy the AA Charlotte Knights and was thwarted by the arrival of the AAA Zephyrs from Denver. See "Denver Triple-A Team to move to New Orleans (November 25, 1992); "Charlotte AA team needs new home" (January 25, 1993); and the 1994 summary judgment ruling in New Orleans Pelicans Baseball Club Inc. v. NAPBL, reprinted here). --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Si; found two of those, but the details were very different that what was written. No objections to an alternate addition that adheres to those cites. Kuru (talk) 16:51, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

...which you've done. Looks awesome. Kuru (talk) 16:55, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

MONDAY, JUNE 9, 2008

Rebecca Of Sunny Brook Farm here...I've read this Wik - Tom Benson page more than 2 years. I'm astonished that noone had the tenasity to clear up some speculations. My goal is to update the "story" that was posted before regarding Mr. Benson's removal of the Saints from New Orleans...call it Public Relations if you will. There were mighty poor ASSUMPTIONS made by New Orleans, Louisiana and San Antonio regarding the "move" of the team. It was and always will be a temporary move for the safety of his family, friends and employees. I will retreive the neccessary points of reference on the quotes within the next several days —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.38.55.20 (talk) 16:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Update Needed

There really should be an update of the past 2 years. Benson has signed a deal to keep the Saints in the Superdome for the next 25 years. The commitment seems to have mollified most fans' anger towards him after Katrina. The team's tremendous 2009 season did not hurt either. 76.187.152.36 (talk) 04:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Undue weight

Two thirds of the article, and all the citations is about the relocation controversy, which is clear undue weight so tagged. Secret ^account 03:38, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

High school diploma

Benson's listing on Forbes' website says that his highest level of education is a high school diploma. Is that accurate? If so, the "early life and education" section here needs to be edited as it says he's a college graduate. 108.27.38.227 (talk) 03:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

3 or 7 children? 3 adopted children + 4 ex-stepchildren = 7

3 adopted children:

• Forbes listing (2014)
• He buried two of his three children before they reached 40. (2015)

7 children:

• "Benson and his wife, Grace, have seven grown children. They have a home in San Antonio, a condominium in New Orleans and a 2,000-acre ranch in Pedernales River country near Johnson City, Tex." (1987)
• "Widowed twice, he’s also seen two of his seven children die at early ages." (2014)

Benson had four stepchildren (plus one deceased) when he was married to Grace Benson (source) so I guess he has 3 adopted children (Robert, Renee and Jeanne) with first wife Shirley, and his second wife Grace's four children (from another relationship, and not counting Grace's deceased child) makes 7? 108.27.38.227 (talk) 03:32, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Jeanne-Marie Benson married Peter Nebergall in 1987. They had one daughter, Viola, who did not survive her mother. Jeanne-Marie, "Miss Tootsie," had MS, and died in 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.57.9.33 (talk) 23:30, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

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Relocation "controversy" section undue

This has been discussed multiple times on this talk page, but the problem remains; not only does the "relocation controversy" section dominate the article, but it's very much undue. I know anecdotal testimonies are worth squat on Wikipedia, but as a South Louisianan, I can say that Benson is revered for having kept the Saints in New Orleans. This section gives the opposite impression. It should be renamed and severely pruned. Lizard (talk) 23:28, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

And many Louisianans and other Saints fans would admit to having felt both ways at different times. I don't think that section is undue or unfairly written as it stands, but given the existence of Effect of Hurricane Katrina on the New Orleans Saints, which has some of the same content, we could perhaps have a discussion about whether any specific text this article might belong just as well in the other one. --Arxiloxos (talk) 23:47, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Other content exists. That article is specifically about the effects of Katrina on the Saints, and this one is about a sports franchise owner. At the very least, it shouldn't take up half the article. Especially since his legacy has largely changed since then. Lizard (talk) 00:03, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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