User talk:Curps

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I'm on very long-term wiki-vacation. Good luck to everyone.

Note: "Curps" only exists within the pages of the Wikipedia website. Anyone else using this same name anywhere else (IRC chat, e-mail, message forum websites, in person in real life, etc) is not me. -- Curps 00:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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AfD nomination of Jimmy Wales

An article that you have been involved in editing, Jimmy Wales, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jimmy Wales (2nd nomination). Thank you. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tsunami

The Tsunami article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Privacy concerns

Hi, Curps. I recently edited User talk:Curps/archive21 to remove my real name from the page. I have reason to be concerned about my online privacy lately, and this page listed my real name in a format that is easily found with a simple Google search. I apologize for editing your user space directly, but I hope you can forgive the intrusion. Thanks, — Amcaja (talk) 02:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Curpsbot-unicodify deflagged

Your bot, Curpsbot-unicodify which was approved and flagged some time ago has now been deflagged due to inactivity. If you wish to run your bot again, feel free to return to the requests for bot approval page where you can reapply for your bot's task and flag. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact a member of the BAG or myself. WjBscribe 01:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indef blocks being called into question

There is an ANI thread about some indefinite blocks of IPs you made back in December. Your input is urgently needed there. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Wang Qi

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Proposed deletion of Ge Yongliang

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Proposed deletion of Kenneth S. Russell

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No significant coverage of this person in reliable sources, has not been significantly added to or referenced in more than four years.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Yasukazu Ikari

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Proposed deletion of Shuji Hayakawa

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Poorly sourced article on a non-notable astronomer

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Speedy deletion nomination of Watari Kakei

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Speedy deletion nomination of Juraj Tóth

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Proposed deletion of Augusto Testa

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Biography with no significant claim to notability and no references. Does not meet any of the notability guidelines

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Articles for deletion nomination of Hiroki Kosai

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Articles for deletion nomination of Kiichiro Hurukawa

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Articles for deletion nomination of Hiroshi Kaneda

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Fair use rationale for File:Gaston m'enfin.gif

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Suspension of admin privileges due to inactivity

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sockpuppet editing

There is an open WP:SPI case looking at sockpuppet editing primarily on the Johann Hari/ Talk page. As you edited the Johann Hari/Talk page between 2004 and 2011, your input is welcomed.

Category:Gamma Cassiopeiae variables

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Possibly unfree File:Chloe Angeline Stickney Hall.gif

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Notice of change

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Category:Astronomy people

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Proposed deletion of Pelageya Shajn

The article Pelageya Shajn has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not notable under any criteria. No source that I can find (including a few about her husband) gives her more than a passing mention. Per Notability and a discussion at here, discovering a few asteroids or even having an asteroid named after her does not make a subject notable.

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ArbCom elections are now open!

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Nomination of pages for deletion

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Primefac (talk) 05:22, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A. Laurent

The real name of "A. Laurent" was Joseph Jean Pierre Laurent. The Minor Planet Center now lists the discoverer of 51 Nemausa as "J. J. P. Laurent" rather than "A. Laurent". You discussed this at User_talk:Urhixidur/Archive/2004#O._Bancilhon -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 06:13, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Dramatis personae of the Schlockiverse" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Proposed deletion of Wolfram & Hart

The article Wolfram & Hart has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication this passes WP:NFICTION/WP:GNG/WP:PLOT. Minor plot device, sources are all 100% primary, no indication of real world significance/impact/reception. Pure fancruft.

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Proposed deletion of The Initiative (Buffy the Vampire Slayer organization)

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No evidence this fictional organization passes WP:GNG/WP:NFICTION

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Nomination of The Initiative (Buffy the Vampire Slayer organization) for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Zaurac

Hello Curps,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Zaurac for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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