User talk:Evanh2008/Archive 5

A cupcake for you!

Thanks for the Barnstar! 5 albert square (talk) 02:01, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Page protection

Hi Evan. You may have noticed that I've protected your talk page again because of the latest harassment. I think it's about time to extend the protection to indef - if you think that's a good idea, could you create a separate subpage for talk posts for new and unregistered users, per WP:PROTECT#User talk pages? I'll protect the page after you've done it. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:38, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

2013 Russian meteor event requested move

You may have participated in a prior informal discussion on changing the title of 2013 Russian meteor event.

This discussion has been closed in favor of a formal Requested Move.

You are invited to comment on the formal discussion here.

Thank you. μηδείς (talk) 18:39, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

!voted. Thanks for the ping! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:56, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Photo consensus discussion

Hi. Can you offer your opinion on the matter discussed at the bottom of this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:26, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Discussion concerning a disruptive dynamic IP

I brought up a discussion here about a disruptive user whom you helped revert some edits of. Feel free to give input there about the situation. Thank you. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 08:32, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:24, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey

Sorry if I appeared overly harsh at FTN, good luck, IRWolfie- (talk) 15:23, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

No worries; it's not a big deal. I think we're on the same page now, anyway. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:13, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment

Hey Evanh2008; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:49, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC discussion: step three

Hello all. We have finally reached step three in the Jerusalem RfC discussion. In this step we are going to decide the exact text of the various drafts and the general questions. We are also going to prepare a summary of the various positions on the dispute outlined in reliable sources, per the result of question nine in step two. I have left questions for you all to answer at the discussion page, and I'd be grateful for your input there. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 08:52, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Requesting your opinion

Hi. Can you offer your opinion on a photo in this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Many thanks for removing vandalism from my user page - Enjoy!! Denisarona (talk) 06:08, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem! Thanks much! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Harrison

Congrats on getting the George Harrison article through FAC. I was very excited to see it there and to see all the hard work you put into it. Kudos! --Spike Wilbury (talk) 18:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well. As I said to GabeMc, lesser editors might have have been tempted to give it up as a bad job, but you two stuck with it. Malleus Fatuorum 18:58, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, both of you! Both of your comments were very helpful in us getting it there. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:37, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

It was quite nice working with you on the George Harrison article. Well done, Evan! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:01, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Gabe! And right back atcha! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:16, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Have one on me, too! A great accomplishment. -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:28, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Your Barnstar!

Evan, thank you so much for that Barnstar. A huge surprise – and a very welcome one! Congratulations from me on getting the article to FA status; very well deserved. Also, I admire your openness in admitting when you might be wrong about something; it's a simple thing, but a quality that engenders goodwill (in any forum, wikipedia or otherwise) and it adds a lot of integrity to this particular article's promotion. Big thanks and congrats once again – I mean it. JG66 (talk) 23:16, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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Dubious tag

Can you stop restoring the dubious tag please? The dubious tag implies that the factual accuracy of something is disputed. Nobody is arguing that the quote wasn't made. Ryan Vesey 05:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Apologies. Is there a tag that is more appropriate for a discussion like this or do we not need to indicate it at all? I know we don't have to link to any discussion from an article, but if there's a reasonable way of doing it, I don't see why we shouldn't. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 05:55, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

You can check Wikipedia:Template messages/Disputes, I don't really see any that are great for the situation though. Ryan Vesey 05:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Could you please comment here - Images from Adaptations of Les Misérables

Hi, do you remember when we split Adaptations of Les Misérables from the main article? At the time we thought it looked nice with all those images from all the different adaptations.

However, now there is a proposal to delete all that. One user has even suggested that it should be "burned with fire". [1].

I'd be interested in knowing your opinion about this. So if you have a minute, you're welcome to comment on that thread.

Cheers, Azylber (talk) 14:58, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Azylber. Thanks for letting me know, and I apologize for not following up on this whole thing after the GAN debacle. I'll take a look now. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 08:15, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:AIV

I have blocked Popabar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) per your report. However, please note that AIV is intended for clear and obvious vandalism that can be evaluated in seconds, so in the future it would be better to bring such reports to WP:ANI. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

AIV tends to bring about less drama than ANI, so I think I probably use it in cases when I shouldn't, like this one. Thanks for your help! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Ballad of Sir Frank GAR

Hi Evan. Thanks very much for your review – that was excellent. I believe everything you've raised has been sorted, or in a couple of cases, responded to and awaiting further discussion maybe. Ready when you are on the talk page. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 00:49, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, JG! I should have time to give it a second look tomorrow - Sunday at the latest. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I added a brief message at the end of the GAR, Evan, but I just wanted to say another thank-you for your review. To repeat, you really did bring something to that article. Plus, having seen recent discussions relating to how some articles are being passed as GAs when they're not worthy of promotion, it's great to see you're ensuring that high standards are upheld. Personally, I think a Good Article should be "excellent" – that's the target I set myself. And I'm not necessarily coming from the position of a contributor who's had a few successful GANs; I'm equally someone who once got severely knocked back at GAR, in no uncertain terms – but really, that was the biggest favour a reviewer could've done me. (In the medium/long term, I hasten to add; certainly didn't feel like it at the time!) Thanks once again, Evan, and see you at the next GAR, who knows. Best, JG66 (talk) 04:43, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for clarification regarding Jerusalem RFC

A request for clarification has been submitted regarding the ArbCom mandated Jerusalem RFC process. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:27, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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George Harrison (1943–2001) was an English musician, singer, and songwriter who achieved international fame as the lead guitarist of the Beatles. By 1965 Harrison had begun to lead the other Beatles into folk rock through his interest in the Byrds and Bob Dylan, and towards Indian classical music through his use of the sitar on "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)". He developed an interest in the Hare Krishna movement and became an admirer of Indian culture and mysticism, introducing them to the other Beatles and their Western audience. Following the band's break-up in 1970, Harrison released several best-selling singles and albums as a solo performer, and in 1988 co-founded the platinum-selling supergroup the Traveling Wilburys. A prolific recording artist, he was featured as a guest guitarist on tracks by Badfinger, Ronnie Wood and Billy Preston, and collaborated on songs and music with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton and Tom Petty, among others. He also organized the 1971 Concert for Bangladesh with Ravi Shankar, a precursor to later benefit concerts such as Live Aid. Harrison was also a music and film producer, founding Dark Horse Records in 1974 and co-founding HandMade Films in 1978. (Full article...)

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Your comments on Jimbo's talk page

...are remarkably sane, thoughtful, and mature. At first I was reading them twice-through because it's unexpected fare over there. Cheers! — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 01:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Haha, thanks! I was beginning to wonder if I only made sense to myself. :) Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:58, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Precious

musicians
Thank you for creating in collaboration quality articles on musicians and bands, such as George Harrison and his religious background, for your projects such as Led Zeppelin, for fighting vandalism, for updating useless witticism, and for amusing edit summaries, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Gerda! You are kind — far kinder than I deserve. GabeMc did most of the work at George Harrison, and the Zeppelin article is definitely still a work in progress, but I hope to devote more time there soon. (Also, it looks like I've let the witticisms lag behind a bit; off to update!) Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 07:34, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

You deserve! GabeMc received Precious before, and I try one per person ;) - Collaboration and plans deserve encouragement, - and thanks for the update, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Genre warrior

Thanks for your reverts on the Heavy metal articles. I have made an appeal for a range block at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#IP genre waring.--SabreBD (talk) 20:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem, and thanks to you as well. Hope the range block is approved! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC discussion: finalising drafts

Hello. We have almost finished step three of the Jerusalem RfC discussion, but before we move on to step four I would like to make sure that all the participants are happy with the drafts that we have chosen. The content of the drafts are likely to dictate what ends up in the actual article, after all, so I want to make sure that we get them right.

So far, there hasn't been much interest in the process of choosing which drafts to present to the community, and only three editors out of twenty submitted a drafts statement. I have used these three statements to pick a selection of drafts to present, but we still need more input from other participants to make sure that the statements are representative of all participants' wishes. I have started discussions about this under question seven and question eight on the RfC discussion page, and I would be grateful for your input there.

Also, there have been complaints that this process has been moving too slowly, so I am going to implement a deadline. If there haven't been any significant objections to the current selection of drafts by the end of Wednesday, 8 May, then I will move on to step four. Questions or comments are welcome on the discussion page or on my talk page. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Heart of a Woman FAC

Hi Evan, since you helped out at my last FAC (Sesame Street research), I thought I'd ask if you could help out again with my latest one [2]. Would you mind? It's been languishing for a while, so I'm drumming up folks to review it. I'd really appreciate it, thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:09, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Done! That's a really great article; I'm surprised you've had so few reviewers so far. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:35, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, wanted you to know that I've finished addressing your concerns. Ya know, this seems to be consistent about the FACs I submit these days. I think that my attempt to make sure that the articles I submit are ready might be working against me. Reviewers see that it's ready to be passed and don't review them because they think that others will come along to support. And then they don't get enough reviewers to pass! I think that's what happened with the above-mentioned Sesame Street article, which took three FACs to pass; plus, I believe people were truly afraid of it. I've learned that you really need to actively recruit reviewers. Thanks again. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:35, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Signing my name

I'm usually very conscientious about that, but tonight for some reason I had a real brain blip - twice in row! Must be getting old. Thanks for letting me know. Textorus (talk) 06:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem! As I said before, thanks for fixing! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 06:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC discussion: step four

Hello everyone. We are now at step four of the Jerusalem RfC discussion, where we will decide the details of the RfC implementation. This is the home stretch - the RfC proper will begin as soon as we have finished this step. Step four is also less complicated than the previous steps, as it is mostly about procedural issues. This means it should be over with a lot more quickly than the previous steps. There are some new questions for you to answer at the discussion page, and you can see how the RfC is shaping up at the RfC draft page. Also, when I say that this step should be over with a lot quicker than the previous steps, I mean it: I have set a provisional deadline of Monday, 20th May for responses. I'm looking forward to seeing your input. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:55, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Minor wording

Hi, I think you were right in asking for closure of the Rfc on AD/BC. But could I talk you into removing the "As much as I disagree with that consensus" item? There is a 10% chance that someone may say that was not totally neutral wording and may generate further delays. If you just trim that, it should be fine. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:41, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Since I was asking for a close against my preference, I didn't anticipate it being an issue. On second thought, though, I can see how there's a small chance of it being problematic. Fixed. Thanks! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 08:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok, great. It closed anyway, Thanks. History2007 (talk) 11:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Jesus

Hi Evanh. I have closed the discussion at Talk:Jesus as you requested at WP:AN. I'm open to any discussion of my reasoning, but i suspect from your comment you probably agree with the way i called it, even while disagreeing with the decision itself. Cheers, Lindsay^Hello 09:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I think you called it right Lindsay. I think it was not just based on counting (which was clear), but that the supporting users had some uniformity in their reasons. But by and large I agree with Evan and yourself. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 11:16, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for watching out for me. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:51, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Don't mention it, Bugs! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:02, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Too late! :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I walked into that one. :) Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:39, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Zep FAC

I'll be tinkering around at Ringo Starr for at least a few more weeks before the article is ready for FAC. Good luck with the Zep nom, and let me know if there is anything I can do to help you guys out. Cheers! GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:45, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, great! I'll keep an eye on Ringo as well, but if you notice anything that could use help from me, chasing down a source, copy editing, or anything else, just drop me a note here or elsewhere and I'll take a look. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Icthus

Christianity newsletter: New format, new focus

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I notice that you aren't currently subscribed to Ichthus, the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. Witha new format, we would be delighted to offer you a trial three-month, money-back guarantee, subscription to our newsletter. If you are interested then please add your name tothis list, and you will receive your first issue shortly. From June 2013 we are starting a new "in focus" section that tells our readers about an interesting and important groups of articles. The first set is about Jesus, of course. We have also started a new book review section and our own "did you know" section. In the near future I hope to start a section where a new user briefly discusses their interests.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 21:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	Thank you very much for jumping in and helping to calm an uncivil situation. Taking the time to revert nasty grams and teaching new users the ropes - is very much appreciated! Lexlex (白痴美國) (talk) 02:12, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Lexlex! I regret I wasn't able to salvage the whole situation in a more amicable way, but I'm glad it's been resolved now. Kudos to you for keeping a cool head over the whole thing. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 05:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:South Park

I reverted your removal of the anon's edit per WP:TPO. "Remember, there are no stupid questions, only stupid people." I also replied. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 02:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I moved the Syrian Civil War to Syrian Uprising 2011 for a reason

I described that: The events in Syria are not civil war, the conflict is happening between a government/regime and the community, not between two races from within the community.

I'm a Syrian citizen and I'm writing live from Damascus the capital city of Syria, it's reasonable enough that I know what's happening in my country more than anyone outside of it, isn't it? :)

What good reasons can you give to name it as "Civil War"?

Mr.TAMER.Shlash (talk) 02:13, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

This is a discussion better suited to the article talk page. Even if I gave you "consent" (as it were) to move the page, there still wouldn't be consensus for it, and someone else would come along and revert you. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

OK I'll start a discussion there but hope you help organize it, as I'm not yet familiar with Wikipedia Discussions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.TAMER.Shlash (talk • contribs) 02:18, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for annoyance but is there any template I can add to the article to notify people not to move it before joining/reading a section in the discussion page? Mr.TAMER.Shlash (talk) 02:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

No worries about annoying me. :) Off-hand I don't know of such a template that isn't specifically tied to an active formal move request discussion, which I think would be somewhat premature at this point. I wouldn't worry about anyone moving it, though; it should be fine. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

And just so you know, any move discussion is almost certainly going to hinge on WP:COMMONNAME, so you'll need to demonstrate that your preferred title is used by a significant number of reliable sources — papers, news sites, television, etc. Personally, I would prefer almost any title to the current one. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

(Self-)Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: assuming bad faith and skimming instead of reading! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:19, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC discussion: final countdown

Hello again, everyone. I have now closed all the questions for step four, and updated the RfC draft. We are scheduled to start the Jerusalem RfC at 09:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC). Before then, I would like you to check the draft page, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jerusalem, and see if there are any errors or anything that you would like to improve. If it's a small matter of copy editing, then you can edit the page directly. If it's anything that might be contentious, then please start a discussion at Talk:Jerusalem/2013 RfC discussion#The final countdown. I'll check through everything and then set the RfC in motion on Thursday. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 16:10, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC has started

Hello again everyone. We have finally made it - the RfC is now open, and a few editors have chimed in already. The discussion is located at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jerusalem. I'm sure you don't actually need me to tell you this, but please go over there and leave your comments. :) You are the editors most familiar with the Jerusalem lead dispute on Wikipedia, so it would be very useful for the other participants to see what you have to say. And again, thank you for all your hard work in the discussions leading up to this. We shall reconvene after the results of the RfC have been announced, so that we can work out any next steps we need to take, if necessary. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Gather Together FAC

Hi Evan,

As per your request at this FAC [3], I'm pinging you. Know, however, that I'm looking at a very busy weekend coming up, so take your time in finishing your review, since I probably wouldn't be able to seriously attend to it until early next week. Thanks! Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 00:17, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Christine. My apologies for leaving you hanging on the FAC. I completely forgot to watchlist it and it slipped my mind earlier in the week. I'll take a second look here shortly. Thanks! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:20, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)

ICHTHUS

June 2013

From the Editor

Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.

Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.

From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.

We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.

Church of the month

The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.

Good articles and DYKs
The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.

Focus on...

THE
HISTORICAL JESUS

Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.

In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.

The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.

From the bookshelf

Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 ISBN 0-8028-4368-9

Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.

Did you know...

A Handel manuscript

• ... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?

Calendar
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