User talk:Nlu/archive66

sock

a sockpuppet has been adding theories that Cantonese are not the same ethnic group as Han chinese and are "oppressed" by the chinese government, manufacturing make racial slurs here, i would like you to participate in the following investigation.ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ (talk) 23:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Isuzu1001

Sorry, but again, not right now. I'm still working out a combination of work, home, and personal issues. Hopefully I can get things untangled relatively soon. Sorry about that. --Nlu (talk)

I like to add my $.02 on this matter regarding China and the Han group. Simply stated, the Han people are their own people plus a mixed assortment of neighboring ethnicities assimilated into the Han group (vis-a-vis Chinese civilization) over millenniums. Gongsun Xuanyuan (a.k.a. Huangdi) was the impetus to Chinese civilization and the Xia, and the Xia spawned the ancestry not just to the Han people, but the Hun people as well. There is this Euro-centricist and "white hegemony" element/mentality (see Carleton S. Coon and his devils advocate Ashley Montagu) to the sock-puppetry in underhanded editing and weaseling of Asian/China related articles, apparently to help support an ethnic secession of the Chinese populace for political motives; while disgracing/stigmatizing the "archetype Asian" manifested in the Chinese.

You can just read the articles such as Xiongnu (Huns), Rong (pre-Xiongnu), Banpo symbols (potential/logical pre-cursor to Turkic script) and anything tangentially related, and you'll see the underhanded "Caucasification" or some degree of white washing ancient Chinese and general Asian history. There is no doubt the Cantonese are a mix of ancient Han people who've migrated to Nanyue since Qin Dynasty times, with the local Nanyue people, which also helps explain the Cantonese dialect. Nowadays, Cantonese people generally regard themselves as members of the greater Han ethnicity, and I doubt they're oppressed anywhere close to the oppression that Native American or Siberian people had suffered with loss of culture, land and religion. It's generally accepted than Han people are an assimilated mixed bunch (Rong, Xiongnu, Xianbei, Jurchen, Mongolian, etc). Now who are the "original Han people"? Those Wu speaking people of Jiangsu/Jianxi/Zhejian? The Jin speaking people of Shaanxi/Shanxi/Henan/Hebei/Inner Mongolia? Got Milked (talk) 13:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

As far as the Xiongnu article is concerned, at a quick glance, I don't see a significant problem. Ethnography is not really my forte, and I am more comfortable with discussing events. --Nlu (talk) 14:55, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

mediation

I know we haven't exactly departed on good terms (but hey it's been like 2 years ago and I'm over it - and I also admit being a dick last time), but you seem the most rational on that side of the camp. So apparently, Ksyrie and co. think I'm censoring Chinese views when I clearly proposed that they can move the shit they want to the background section. I just want that retarded section out of there. It's redundant when the section above it talks about the same thing. Now they haven't responded to me at all in the talk page (this have been going on for months mind you) and I can't report them for 3rr so I'd appreciate it if you would look into this. I think you being 'one of them' and an admin will help. Thanks. Kuebie (talk) 13:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I offended you at the time. :-) And I'm sorry at the moment, but I can't do it right now -- as referenced above, I am working through some confluence of personal, family, and work issues (one of which is a jury trial that is set to start tomorrow morning if there is a judge available). I'll try to remember to look at it if/when I get this trial done... --Nlu (talk) 02:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Arilang1234

I'm afraid Arilang1234 might be having another go at his twisted POV pushing on the boxer rebellion article.ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ (talk) 21:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

He still hasn't learned, after claiming that the western sources I used in the article were "Chinese communist party propaganda", insulting manchus and claiming the boxers were "salvages".

The western sources I used were by prominent historians with PHDS from western universities, with no trace of any alleged "pro communist" activism or slant.

I repeatedly linked a quote where Dr. Sun Yatsen himself praised the Boxers, but Arilang1234 claimed that the article is from the "communist propaganda department", and written by the 50 cent party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive665#Arilang1234

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive667#Arilang1234

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive663#Arilang1234

Sorry, but right now I have two trials on the horizon. I am in no shape to be dealing with any conflict resolution. (While these cases are pending, I basically have to be up every morning at 4:45 a.m.) --Nlu (talk) 23:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:People from Chaoyang

Category:People from Chaoyang, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. –HXL's Roundtable and Record 16:27, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Armenia

Hi Nlu, What happen? you do not write anything. we need to your knowledge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.133.213.244 (talk) 06:59, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement. It's just been that a lot of things recently at home and at work — including preparing for two trials — basically ate up my time and energy, and for a time made me very stressed that I was not in shape to write anything. I am now less stressed, but the time situation remains. (Both of the two trial cases are pending still, waiting for assignment to judges, so as soon as I go into trial, the stress will be back, I'm sure. :-)) I'll try to get back to editing as soon as I feel physically and mentally ready. Sorry. --Nlu (talk) 14:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Dog meat

You seem like a well informed and open minded and impartial person. There are these individuals who are trying to control what is directly accessible in the Dog meat article, by deleting my logical and relevant linking of the Horse meat article in its See Also section. I can understand their need to maintain a certain level of white pride and Asian cultural-secessionism by disassociating certain European(and their close-ally/favorite Asian) taboo meat cultures/nations to make an outright disconnect in these taboo meat articles relative to dog meat, which most likely have their largest proportion of consumers in such places as China, Korea and Vietnam: whereas in cat and horse meat consumption, the partiality toward the eastern/central Asians to that of non-Asians is far less(and complicity with Europeans far more) and thus the "Wikipedia controllers" for white pride(and pride of their closest allies and "friendlies"), work to make or delete such edits. But this really has nothing to do with proper presentation of white people's eating habits or how the eating habits of western democracy's closest ally nations should be seen. I do not object to other cultures or ethnic groups eating culture or heritage, and the inclusion of horse meat in the en.wikipedia.org Dog meat See Also section should constitute a consistent and simple American(not necessarily objective) and all English-language reader-observation of relevant facts and comparative study to the culture of eating these animals to which American and other "democratized" people should objectively examine without feeling humiliated, like how the editors and Dog meat article-controllers here are doing here by omitting direct reader-access to these relevant articles for comparative examination. Of course, as difficult as it may be for them to accept, the link to horse meat and other relevant "taboo meats" will be included in the See Also section. KulqihanAtqa (talk) 06:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but as I mentioned above, I am in no shape to deal with this situation right now. I would suggest trying to bring in other administrators in on the issue by referring the issue to WP:ANI. --Nlu (talk) 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Hardstyle

Hey, Nlu. You protected the article Hardstyle and I wanted to ask you a question. This is going to sound like a loaded question, but trust me it isn't. You might know more than me, but how many times does a page have to be protected (whether indefinitely or for a limited period of time) to merit permanent protection? I did some research on page protection, but I didn't see that information anywhere here on Wikipedia. Could you please tell me? Thanks! Bravo! Alfa! Papa! 22:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Short answer is: we don't permanently protect articles. (The only things that get permanently protected are high-usage templates and things of that nature.) See WP:PP for more details. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 14:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Wasami007 (talk) 10:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Haven't felt that I deserved it as of late. Again, hoping to find the time/energy to get back into the thick of things... --Nlu (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

A mistake in page Göktürks, need your help

Göktürks

Hi Nlu,

In the "Western Turkic Khaganate" part of this page, I found that Khan Ashina Helu's reign is mistaken as 634-639. But in the Chinese version 阿史那贺鲁(Ashina Helu), his rule was in the 650s. It was actually 阿史那同俄(Ashina Tonge) that ruled between 634 and 639. This mistake is also found in page Ishbara Qaghan (Ashina Helu).

In the same part there is another mistake which I suspect. In the text it puts that Chui River was the border between Dulo and Nushibi. However, Dulo was a clan of Bulgars, who at that time lived in nowaday Ukraine, which suggests that there was no possibility that Chui River was part of its border.

Those mistakes are quite difficult to cope with, so is to persuading some administraders of wiki. I'm finding difficulty mainly in searching for references. Would you please help me? Thank you.

霎起林野间 (talk) 17:31, 3 August 2011 (UTC)User:霎起林野间(talk)

Sorry about not getting back to you for a while due to some personal issues. I am going to try to look at this over the next weekend. --Nlu (talk) 16:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh thanks very much and sorry for not noticing your respond...I'll look at those pages again and find out what's wrong(actually I forgot).霎起林野间

Re-starting Talk:Hot Rod (rapper)

Hi, Nlu - I've restarted the talk page you deleted - I think it's uncontroversial, but probably best if I do the right thing here, anyways - --Shirt58 (talk) 12:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem, and thank you for explaining the deletion reason on the talk-page itself. --Shirt58 (talk) 12:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Buddhist legends about Emperor Wu of Liang

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Nomination of Buddhist legends about Emperor Wu of Liang for deletion

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Emad

Welcome again to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.133.214.232 (talk) 09:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 15:02, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

特勒

Hi, Nlu. How are you ? Do you have any sources for 特勒 (see Talk:Tiele people). Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 15:21, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Commented. Please let me know if you need more information. --Nlu (talk) 20:07, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. In the Book of Tang, "特勒" means "特勤". Takabeg (talk) 02:04, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Chancellors

Of the hundreds and hundreds of Chancellor articles you have created, has any Chancellor died of natural causes without being exiled? Each time you write a new one, I can't wait to find out how the next Chancellor died. Great articles, I always find them interesting reads. FYI... On the DEFAULTSORT value, it is Sun, Wo... with the comma. The comma actually does make a difference. I've been correcting them. Bgwhite (talk) 06:59, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the interest. :-) Most Tang chancellors had good, natural deaths, but we're getting to the end of the dynasty, where not many people, chancellor or not, had good ends... --Nlu (talk) 07:21, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Interview with Wikimedia Foundation

Hello Nlu, I hope you're well. My name is Aaron and I'm one of the Storytellers working on the 2011 fundraiser here at the Wikimedia Foundation. For this year's campaign we're seeking out and interviewing active Wikipedians like yourself, in order to produce a broader and more representative range of "personal appeals" to run come November. If you'd like to participate in this project, please email me at amuszalskiwikimedia.org. Interviews are typically conducted by phone or Skype and take between 30-90 minutes. Thanks! Aaron (WMF) (talk) 04:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

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Ding Hui Article

Nlu,

Article: Ding Hui.

Would you be able to do an "infobox" for the above article? It would be appreciated. Adamdaley (talk) 08:56, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I've never been particularly good at picking the right infobox templates for articles I write. Do you have some suggestions? --Nlu (talk) 09:38, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

The "Infobox person" or if he was associated with military could be a "Military" infobox for a person. Adamdaley (talk) 10:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the suggestion... I'll look into it. --Nlu (talk) 10:14, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

您好,給您打個招呼!

我是美籍华人,我会"CSL"(Chinese as Second Language)的学生。我只是想给你打招呼，让你知道我也发现许多Wikipedia基于的反华/夏国家与民族分裂宣传以及别有用心信息中心,用来对付中华国家和民族团结。搞反华分裂宣传不只是小/土流氓,而包括一些大学学历与大学教授。我简单给你介绍，但是你可能已经知道了，一些"华人的朋友"，他们的"CSL"挺厉害的，但他们别有用心"支持"华人文化和历史。Andrew West (魏安) 这个"华人朋友"删除了我连接故突厥文文章到半坡陶符的编辑。他自己的意识在六月二十六日二零一零年说:"resemblence of some symbols to Banpo, Runic, Etruscan etc. is just coincidence and unsourced". 问题是魏安这个Euro-centric混蛋否拒绝同样意识的故突厥文文章里的Runic script文章连接。我后来很简单无辜连接"半坡文"的Wiki文章到Old Turkic Script文章;马上就有另外一个白人老外躁急反编我的连接编辑(一个纽约意大利族男子叫做"Robbiemuffin")；他说:"Most pottery shows only one, sometimes two of the above marks (because) image makes it look like an alphabet". Andrew West 与 Robbiemuffin 这种人应该了解"半坡文"是新石器时代的(陕西地带)考古发现，而故突厥文是3000多年以后的(现代蒙古国)考古发现；可问题存在这些白男人大主义的别有用心。我不耽误您时间，在最后给您说一下另外喜欢失真亚洲+华夏历史的分子:Christopher Beckwith. 他是丹增嘉措的政治顾问之一；宣传"Sino-Tibetan"汉藏语系的分裂. 说实在的，阿尔泰语系+汉藏语系+突厥语系都很可能有同一个青铜时代之前的来源。这也就是简单的说，中原+北原+草原人都拥有一个祖先；虽然"合久必分，分久必合"，但是语言一致保持分别；除非同化。历史告诉我们，汉人语言以及文化是最强的同化系列。我前面给你表达一些人的名字,他们只不过代表反华合"Pan-Asianism"恐惧症的小部分。他们将尽其所能，失真文化，历史以及种族，以满足他们的种族主义和恐惧症。Got Milked (talk) 14:53, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I understand your frustration, but this topic is actually completely outside my realm of expertise, and I am not in a good position to judge this issue, I think. --Nlu (talk) 04:49, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Vandal Kingdom

Hello, Nlu, and thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!

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Thanks again for your contributions! SpinningSpark 13:59, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing something, it looks like the deletion nomination was not complete. Are you planning on completing the nomination? --Nlu (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Chinese footballers

Dear User:Nlu I'm extremely puzzled by your recent edits where you are deleting this category page from numerous player articles. I don't know why you've done this and I don't understand why you believe this page is unnecessary. In every Featured article, which had a players page represented a simular category page was in their category section so there is nothing wrong with this page.

P.S. please could you add this page back to the ones you've deleted As Soon As Possible.

Yours Sincerely User talk:Kai Lau 16 Sept 2012

Dear User:Nlu I have decided to restore this page to all the ones you've deleted and I would be grateful if you don't undo this.

Yours Sincerely User talk:Kai Lau 18 Sept 2012

Dear User:Nlu I have just read your message where you have suggested that this Category page is too big and where you informed me within the Wikipedia:Categorization that this page needs diffusing. however I would like to remind you that this page is considerably smaller then other similar pages as shown in Category:Association football players by nationality and only very large category pages need diffusing. In fact your obsession in subdividing every player in the region where they're from is rarely used and is too esoteric for the general user to navigate through. In the cases where the subcategory of a players hometown is included the main category page is still kept intact with the players names.

P.S. if you still believe that the page is too big please feel free to add a table of contents page, however as I've reiterated before I will be restoring this page to all the ones you've deleted and I would be grateful if you don't undo this.

Yours Sincerely User talk:Kai Lau 25 Sept 2012