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Administrators' newsletter – March 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • A new tool is available to help determine if a given IP is an open proxy/VPN/webhost/compromised host.

Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
    • paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org has been set up to receive private evidence related to abusive paid editing.
    • checkuser-en-wp@wikipedia.org has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Old AE ban in Cirt v. Tlroche

Hi there. You may or may not remember me. On 16 December 2016 you sanctioned me in Sagecandor v. Tlroche as follows: "SashiRolls is indefinitely prohibited from commenting on AE requests to which they are not a party. " source

I wrote:

This case should not be decided without looking more carefully into the accuser's history, especially this case at ANI and this talk page deletion which together seem to indicate a strong aversion to transparency.
source

As you are no doubt aware, User:Sagecandor was blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Cirt, which explains their aversion to transparency. Would you be willing to reverse your prohibition? I would not mind having the right to say something nice about Atsme. I would also think that since I was right back in 2016, perhaps I could be restored first-class citizenship and the privilege of fresh starting should I so desire, having no further outstanding restrictions on my editing. (I'm not sure I will exercise this privilege, I don't mind being transparent about my past and present.) Best, SashiRolls t · c 19:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

You were sanctioned for the manner in which you expressed these concerns, not the concerns themselves. That the concerns turned out to be well-founded is irrelevant to the sanction. T. Canens (talk) 15:38, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
OK, taking the paragraph above, cited in teal above, what could be better? That explanation will help me explain to others why you think that this penalty should indeed continue beyond 750 days. If there's nothing wrong with that sentence, could you please provide a single example of what you find inappropriate. Thank you. SashiRolls t · c 15:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
This has archived off your page. I haven't checked to see if you've been online; I'll restore this first to give you a few more days to reply. SashiRolls t · c 13:57, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Again, it would be helpful if you could explain why this sanction was useful (in the end it did allow Cirt to continue to sock for another year, which I suppose some would argue was a good thing). More to the point though, I think it would be helpful to explain why, in your view, it continues to be useful. If showing it currently useful proves impossible (as I suspect it will), the simplest and best path would be to remove the sanction and restore my first-class citizenship. I am sorry that I bothered the AE folks when I noticed that Sagecandor/Cirt's diff #4 and #5 about Tlroche "forging a signature" were utter fabulations. I provided further evidence at that time that there was very good reason to take Cirt's prosecutions with a pillar of salt.
Unilaterally lifting this ban does not require you to admit making any mistakes. Why do you think I should "confess", instead? SashiRolls t · c 17:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Also, came across the diff where Sagecandor was called out for calling me a "Russian propaganada user" on a noticeboard on the 3rd of December, less than 2 workweeks before you banned me for saying something about it at AE. Sorry to have taken offense. Looking back, I see quite clearly why I did. It's pretty disgusting, really. SashiRolls t · c 00:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
This sanction was imposed for injecting unrelated matters into an AE thread about someone else's conduct, and the restriction did not prevent you from bringing up your issues with Sagecandor/Cirt in appropriate venues, including AE to the extent the issues fall within a DS topic area. The proper way to "say something about it at AE" was to file a new AE request. Since I'm not seeing any indication that the sanction is now unnecessary or that similar misconduct will not recur, I'm not going to lift it. T. Canens (talk) 03:25, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Sashi asked me to comment here, since I commented at the WP:AE where s/he got their sanction. Sure. I think s/he deserves another chance. If they start getting obsessive again at WP:AE then the ban can be easily restored. To Sashi though - WHY do you actually WANT to comment at AE? It's different if you're being dragged there and such, but if you're staying out of trouble, it might be a good idea to not go looking for it either. Just as a practical matter. Probably should take my own advice sometimes.Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't see any particular reason this sanction needs to stay in effect. AE seems to be in a forgiving mood lately, why not try to concisely appeal there? Mr Ernie (talk) 10:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, VM, and the suggestion Mr Ernie. It's  Done. T. Canens, I would have liked to see the evidence I asked you for before filing, I've been waiting quite a while now. I've appealed at AE if you would like to comment. SashiRolls t · c 18:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

SPI-Archive

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/123Aristotle had 4 cases, 3 closed & 1 open. I used SPI-Archive. Since it obviously inspects the cases to remove the {{SPI case status|close}} tags, I thought it would only archive the closed cases. I was wrong :-(

If you're keeping a wishlist, could you add this to it? Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 13:56, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes. When I wrote the script back in 2010 it was rare to have multiple cases on the same page. How the times have changed... T. Canens (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

March 20: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC + March 23: Asian Art Archive/New York Public Library

March 20, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Metropolitan New York Library Council (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan
(note this month we will be meeting in Midtown Manhattan, not at Babycastles)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! This month, optional post-meetup drinks afterward at 9pm!--Wikimedia New York City Team 18:48, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Saturday March 23: Asian Art Archive/New York Public Library Art+Feminism Editathon

Organized by Asia Art Archive in America]and Miriam and Ira D. Wallach Division of Art, Prints and Photographs of the New York Public Library and in collaboration with Asia Art Archive in Hong Kong, the Art+Feminism: Wikipedia Edit-a-thon on Women in Art in Asia helps participants edit Wikipedia to create and improve articles about women artists and practitioners in and from Asia, including architects, designers, filmmakers, curators, and art historians. Books and research materials—as well as refreshments—will be provided.

Also check out other Art+Feminism and related edit-a-thons throughout the month!

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