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La temporada 2002/03 es el portero titular del Málaga B (juega 42 partidos) y la temporada anterior 2001/02 en Tercera División también (juega 43 partidos). Al acabar la temporada 2001/02 el Málaga B no logra ascender a Segunda B y es cedido al Algeciras para la siguiente temporada 2002/03, pero el Granada es descendido de Segunda B a Tercera por deudas y su plaza es ocupada por el Málaga B para la temporada 2002/03 así que Calatayud vuelve del Algeciras al Málaga B (solamente está en el Algeciras el verano de 2002, sin jugar ningún partido, y comienza la temporada 2002/03 con el Málaga B)
Muito obrigado. Geralmente nestes casos o vândalo insiste umas vezes e para, mas esse cara vem fazendo isso há mais de um mês. De toda forma é ficar de olho. Obrigado novamente.
Amigo, sabe que não me incomodo com palavras. Em relação ao seu pedido, vou respeitá-lo. De fato, a grande maioria dos jogadores já foram alterados. Os que estou mexendo são aqueles onde o local de nascimento constam na parte superior da história, então estou colocando no local certo. Mas não vou mais alterar todos para "Born in", desde que você não os reverta também.
Já em relação ao Valencia B, eu nem tinha visto que você havia alterado. Fiz a montagem do grupo a partir dos dados do www.transfermarkt.co.uk. Pode haver algumas diferenças em relação a sua lista, mas coloquei os atletas que fizeram pelo menos um jogo.
Sobre o fato do dia, infelizmente o joelho acabou com a brilhante carreira do Carles Puyol. Embora não fosse um primor de técnica, com certeza foi um grande jogador e líder. Fará muita falta ao Barça, não acha? Se não fosse as lesões, penso que ele ainda seria titular nesta defesa atual. E concordo, o Bartra tem muito potencial. Espero que o Puyol tome uma decisão interessante: ou se retira ou vai para uma liga menos exigente, como Oriente Médio, China, Estados Unidos... O cara é um monstro!
Conhece o usuário Qed237? Olha a picuinha que ele está fazendo na página do Diego Costa, revertendo suas edições... que estavam bem explicadas. Enfim, apenas para te avisar.
Amigo, fiz uma série de adições (creio que válidas) no artigo Carles Puyol. Gostaria que você, caso ache desnecessárias, fale comigo antes de removê-las. Mas se achar todas válidas e quiser melhorá-las, fique a vontade. Esforcei-me para compor os textos, mas sei que você domina a língua muito melhor. Abraço.
Obrigado. Eu vi suas intervenções, esqueci de escrever 'goal'...hehe. Quanto a questão dos vândalos, eu também não entendo a 'graça'. E por isso ficava tão bravo por ser chamado de vândalo, embora admita que fosse meio cabeça dura. Enfim, novamente obrigado.
Parece que virei alvo de um usuário. Não quero me queixar com você, mas apenas olhe a página do Giovani dos Santos e me diga se não tenho razão. O Qed237 prefere deixar a edição de um IP anônimo, do que a original, que já estava lá há tempos. Sem palavras... já é perseguição. Acho que está na hora de eu também deixar o WP. Desculpe-me o desabafo, mas só veja se não tenho razão.
If you are going to talk about me I would like you to do so in english, simce this is english wikipedia. Otherwise I can only guess what you are saying and hope it is not some sort of personal attack. Thank you, QED237(talk)22:59, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
There is no personal attack. I said, "Looks like I turned the target of a user not want to complain to you, but just look at the page of Giovani dos Santos and tell me if I have no reason The Qed237 prefers to leave the issue of an anonymous IP, than.. original, which had been there for ages. Speechless ... is already persecution. guess it's time I also let the WP. Excuse my rant, but just see if I'm not right. '"Gringoladomenega (talk) 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Okay thank you for the explanation. And to answer what you said it is not a matter of who has been on wikipedia the longest. But the fact that you remove the perfect links to FC Barcelona and also removes the position in infobox without rational explanation and/or wikipedia policy and attempt to discuss at taökpage. You also break 3-revert rule which you should not do if it is not clear vandalism and then you continued even when you got warned and you know have 6 reverts. You will be blocked for it, but I do not want you to leave wikipedia, but I want you to learn from this and stop the crazy reverting of everyone without using edit summaries and talkpages. QED237(talk)23:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I can also in some degree agree with the editor that forward might be enough but he should have discussed it and/or given a policy or source for using only one. And there was definately no reson to remove FC Barcelona link in the same edit. I agree he is no vandal, but he should not revert hat much it is disruptive and he did not stop even after the warnings. Let's hope he comes back and keeps up the good work, just with a little better understanding of how to handle situations when there is a disagreement.
Hi again, I have now tried to talk to TAD as you can see here and I hope it is to your satisfaction. I did not mention the article and the text to be changed but I hope the two of you now can discuss it or I will take a look later. QED237(talk)20:49, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Your concern warms me, but I was never upset to start with :) you are free to talk to me whenever you want and I'll act more civil in the future The Almightey Drill (talk) 21:26, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Bom dia, o meu amigo. I was editing Maniche and saw that he was hired as Costinha's assistant at Pacos de Ferreira. The source on Costinha's dismissal did not mention anything about Maniche, is he still at the club? And does an assistant role go into his infobox in managerial stats? The Almightey Drill (talk) 20:37, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Obrigado AL. As the English source in Costinha's article omits that Maniche left with him, could you locate an article by the Portuguese media for Maniche's article that proves that he left? The Almightey Drill (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Basically the situation is this. In my opinion (and that of others), the Tercera Division season articles do not meet the relevant notability guidelines, and have serious WP:NOTSTATS issues. This opinion was supported in the first deletion discussion and lead to me using twinkle remove the relevant red-links. Excessive bundling and unwarranted accusations of bias in the second discussion meant that achieving consensus was impossible so the other season articles are still around. As for Secunda B, I don't think anyone ever questioned their inclusion, so the existence of links is more a result of no one really paying attention to them than anything else. I hope that clears things up.
P.S. If you do think that I've made a mistake, here or elsewhere, don't hesitate to question my editing. I am by no means infallible. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:41, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Damn it, you're right... Here is Soares [1] (short sleeves) and that was Kay ... I was completely sure... Temporary blindness pr what? Arvedui89 (talk) 07:09, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
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Fernando Llorente
Hello, Always Learning. I apologize for reverting your edit as I did not notice that you indeed corrected your revert of my edit where I corrected some issues on the article. However, I do not understand why can't we mention his ethnicity? IceAge(talk)01:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Portuguese video
I hope this isn't too cheeky. You helped me in the past with some sources in Portuguese, and I've now got a video in the language, subtitled into English by the company that it's a video about; it's been suggested that in fact the subtitles bear little resemblance to the audio. I wonder if you could let me know if the people in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT_B9SwOS20 are actually saying what the subtitles say they are. (I'm not asking for a full transcript, or anything like that, just if Filho (the older man) is actually showering praise specifically on Ecohouse). Pinkbeast (talk) 11:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
And (if you'll forgive me piling something else on) if there's any indication the other chap is an independent reporter, or an employee of the company. We're meant to think he's a reporter, I think, but he seems to spend an awful lot of his time interviewing people about the company. Pinkbeast (talk) 11:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
User:Juanmartinlavagna
I tend to give another couple of warnings before making a successive block; probably me being a bit lenient. But with a user like this, they'll be blocked sooner rather than later because they're clearly not willing to learn. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:23, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
What specifically needs sourcing is the remainder of the drug-test paragraph: "receiving a three-month ban (originally six). His career effectively ended there as, after being reinstated, he could hardly get a game due to constant injuries; one of the few bright spots was a start in the 1989–90 European Cup final against A.C. Milan, where he played a good overall game marking Frank Rijkaard – eventually the scorer of the game's only goal."
As far as I can tell, there are no reliable sources present in the article that either verify the facts – length of ban (or ban at all); constant injuries as the reason for his not playing much; marking Rijkaard in the Cup Final – or justify opinions like "his career effectively ended there"; "one of the few bright spots"; "played a good overall game". cheers,
Something to the effect of Benfica requested the B-sample to be tested, but the result isn't known. If it comes back positive, Hernani would be banned for up to 6 months. What of it? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:18, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
See above. I don't remotely care about the exact wording, so long as what's there is true, not someone's personal opinion, and referenced to reliable sources. If you can't find any, I doubt very much if I could. You're lucky it's me. I only removed the unreliably sourced accusation of drug-test failure and tagged the unsourced rest. Some editors of good standing would have just removed the lot. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:21, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
See above. What source confirms anything in the sentence "His career effectively ended there as, after being reinstated, he could hardly get a game due to constant injuries"? Thank you for adding sources for his ban: the second of the two would be enough. As to the infobox as-of dates, I've left the user another message. Please bear in mind that I'm not an admin, so can do no more than you where issuing warnings is concerned. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:48, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
FYI, it's a school project. A good one, clearly, well researched, and much more fun than the stuff we had to do when I was at school, but a school project is what it is.
There are links to other such down the right hand sidebar; on this thread we read how they intend to finance the thing (and the author wishing everyone at his school a happy christmas); and this Youtube video was uploaded as "Uma produção do BEACH SOCCER RESTELO, um projecto de um grupo de alunos da turma C do 12º ano da Escola Secundária do Restelo, em Lisboa." cheers,
Hi, I wanted to wait a little while before moving it forward, so the admin I'll report it to is able to make a more informed decision on whether a range block is possible. There's 19 IPs at Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Umberto Bottura; do you think there's any others that haven't been included there? I'll get in touch with the admin GiantSnowman directed me to sometime tomorrow. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 01:30, 24 March 2014 (UTC);
Blocked. Since you've been come into contact with this user much longer than I have, could you provide a summary of why they need to be blocked? Just the admin I've got in touch with would like an explanation of this before considering a range block. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 18:16, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Always Learning! No, it wasn't me the anon user, but I mistook his/her "4 goals" edit for the "4 apps" (for Olympiakos) I wanted to make myself and thought he/she had already updated Pelé's stats with yesterday's match (although not supporting this club, I have a stong interest for the player being me twice a winner in betting thanks to his goals :) ). Actually, I don't think that anon user attempted to vandalise the article, even if he/she wrongly took into account a disputed own goal or 1 goal for Salgueiros in Taça de Portugal or other competition. But as you said, who knows?
Greetings from Athens. --Στέλιος Πετρουλάκης (talk) 13:25, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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Both blocked for a month. Should be sufficient time for Juan to fathom out how to update stats properly, but I somehow suspect he won't. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 22:48, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Re: PC "updates" / Technicalities
I've had a look through those users' contributions, and have given Smecherashukristyano a v4 warning. I haven't warned 178.166.58.15 as they've not made any non-constructive edits since their last warning. You could refer to it as that, as long as it's clear to the reader what competition you're talking about. It wouldn't make sense to do that for a player in English football, considering the amount of domestic cup competitions we have. William Carvalho protected for one week. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 16:47, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Really?
AZ is playing Benfica? Those cheese farmers have to compete with the big boys? Don't tell me how it ends (this is a rerun, of course). Man those Portuguese players look like some bad, bad people--like the mafia hired a bunch of lumberjacks. Those little Dutch cheeseheads are doing to be turned into Brie. (FYI, my hometown is "Z", so to speak!) Drmies (talk) 02:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I repeat, don't tell me how it ends. It's a pretty exciting game so far--AZ actually seems almost capable of playing! (that's a Dutch thing, right--I'm cussing out the Dutch players, not the opponents.) Drmies (talk) 02:29, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
User:Juanmartinlavagna
Can we be certain it's him? While the vast majority of the articles the edit has edited have also been edited by Juanmartinlavagna, there are some that haven't. geobytes.com traces the IP down to Florida, United States; does that make sense to you? Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 18:12, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Categories?
Are categories such as Category:Chelsea F.C. players only for players with a competitive appearance? Islam Feruz is categorised as a Celtic and a Chelsea player despite only playing youth games and friendlies. '''tAD''' (talk) 18:44, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Salim Cissé
Those comparisons don't really work, Andy Cole would have been a better example. Sergio Busquets has his first name on his shirt, which is more common in that part of the world than, say, in Britain although Ravel Morrison has bucked that trend. Guti is shorthand for Gutierrez, which is made apparent in the opening sentence. He used to have GUTI.H on his shirt but changed it around 2007 to include the initials of his children, Aitor and Ziara. Couple of Real players now have their given name and shortened surname on their shirts, like José Rodríguez and Jesús Fernández. VEOonefive18:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
I think we're getting a bit too carried away here and straying from the original point. What's usually the case with nicknames, especially those derived from their given name, is that they are placed in inverted commas between the last given name and first family name. VEOonefive22:07, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Mary mother of Goddddddddddddd
Mary mother of Godddd :), what have I done wrong here?→Gonçalo Santos←
ahh ok there isn't problem ok ok i had read just Mary mother of Goddddddddddddd ......... not the apologies (apologies are not necessary) we are human not machine. Do you speak italian?
Nessun problema inizialmente avevo solo letto dell'errore poi ho scritto nella tua pagina per sapere dove avevo sbagliato. nessun problema la scuse non servono siamo uomini tutti sbagliamo ciao.Parli italiano o usi google translate?--Lglukgl (talk) 21:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Perfect if you are interested to expand new page i've created three players who plays in the Portoguese Primeira Liga:
Ok no problem also made a long and fun-filled vacation then returns here.:)
Prenditi una pausa o una vacanza divertiti rilassati poi torna.:)--Lglukgl (talk) 19:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Re: Jonathan Soriano
I agree with your judgement, but I've warned the user since they added the table, so all we can do is wait and see if they re-offend. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 01:09, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
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The IP has been blocked for editing while the User:Juanmartinlavagna account was blocked, so sockpuppetry is the reason. Not really, but when I was little I had a preference for Man Utd. I haven't seen Liverpool win the title in my lifetime so I too would like to see them do it. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
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Please explain why you reverted the edits on CD Numancia B
Those players were removed due to them not meeting the criteria for inclusion, which was explained in Always Learning's edit summary. Although I think it would probably be best for this to be set out in the article itself, for clarity. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:47, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm too thinking about retiring from WP! I have an issue with your friend Gringoladomenega. long since I've been at WP, loanees have been always listed with their kit numbers. While Tomás Mejías was not never on any of Castilla' game sheet, Madrid had him registered with #24 at the RFEF. I can cut G man some slack on this point, but not with Óscar Plano who started in the first three games for Castilla this season:
He has broken 3RR and I have provided sufficient proof on his talk page and the article's to refute the claim that he is an defender. He is showing classic ownership. Please speak with him again. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:48, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Just looked at Gringoladomenega's three sources for Mascherano as a defender, and I really don't think that's enough. I think that's the writers' opinion than finding the team website or the national team website listed him as a defender. Good enough for Mascherano's page but not for Barcelona's. However, I am not an expert or knowledgeable of WP criteria on the subject. Thanks! Raul17 (talk) 14:13, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Ok no problem,Was Camas Cf a professional team?
Happy easter.
Ok tutto apposto nessun problema, sai per caso se il CAMAS CF e una squadra professionale o gioca in Tercera Division?
--Lglukgl (talk) 21:24, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Buona pasqua anche a te e famiglia
Scrivo in italiano perchè non riesco a farti capire in inglese, ho scritto il nome completo per non confondere lo Sporting Lisbona con lo Sporting Braga.
La cosa che invece non capisco proprio è perchè le squadre hanno la rosa della squadra senza wikilink →[2]
A Trabzon Akyazi Stadi é um estádio de futebol que atualmente está em construção no distrito de Akyazi, na zona leste do município de Trabzon, Turquia.
Grande grazie mille più che altro volevo sapere come era il testo in portoghese di google translate.
Buona pasquetta--Lglukgl (talk) 15:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
No, I don't find you rude at all. You are an editor with strong principles and more often that not I find your edits to be correct. '''tAD''' (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm too thinking about retiring from WP! I have an issue with your friend Gringoladomenega. long since I've been at WP, loanees have been always listed with their kit numbers. While Tomás Mejías was not never on any of Castilla' game sheet, Madrid had him registered with #24 at the RFEF. I can cut G man some slack on this point, but not with Óscar Plano who started in the first three games for Castilla this season:
It was not the players' pages, but the Castilla page. It's a minor problem, no big deal really. He just removed the kit numbers for both players eventhough Óscar Plano started the first three matches before being loaned. I guess I'm frustrated with some edits at WP. It seems that players who on loan have an on loan from in the player boxes. Years ago, I was scolded about putting Real Madrid Castilla in the players box because Real Madrid B is better because it keeps the box look more clearer & cleaner; less clutter. And that information can be found in the article itself which makes sense. But now, the in thing to do is to have a player's current club listed as Middlesbrough (on loan from Real Madrid) in the player's box which in most cases musses up the box!! I thought that Current club meant the team the player is playing at the present time. The fact that the player is loan should be in the opening paragraph:
Tomás Mejías Osorio (born 30 January 1989) is a Spanish footballer who plays for Middlesbrough on loan from Real Madrid as a goalkeeper.
Following that logic, I will correct to list all free agents with formerly with Real Madrid C (or whatever team the player played last) like Marc Vales!
As for Gringo vs Walter Görlitz over Javier Mascherano, he has to have a reliable source like Argentina having/playing him as a defender. Fernando Hierro was a midfielder that Madrid started playing as a defender, but the Madrid website had him as a defender. Marcel Desailly was a central defender for France, but played as midfielder for A.C. Milan. This is similar to Castilla's Quini who was listed as a forward last season & now plays rightback! Too bad Denis Cheryshev is at Sevilla on loan from Real Madrid He was playing leftback for Madrid in preseason friendlies. But since the Madrid website has Quini as a defender, there's nothing that can be done. Likewise for Mascherano, Barça website has him as a midfielder. Que será seráRaul17 (talk) 13:46, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
The problem is that nobody has seen him before me. I've seen the page about prince tagoe( vandalism vandalism vandalism) then Francis Forkey Doe (vandalism) finally two or three vandals i dont' remember the number added facebook in aimar career.
I have write about this in Wikiproject football in arsenal fan talk and finally in your talk .
I hope somebody do something
Ciao--Lglukgl (talk) 22:42, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
are supposed to be unambiguously after the last match included in the stats. If that match is on 21 April, and the datestamp just says 21 April, the reader shouldn't be expected to guess whether the stats were correct before that match or after. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Re: Big favour needed
Añón situation sorted. I don't think there's any need to re-block the IP unless it becomes active again. Does Umberto have a history of reusing old IPs? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:01, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
CD Numancia B
Ah ok I have seen now your :The IP Address, 84.90.219.128, is occasionally used by me, Always Learning. Note:this IP may also be used by other people. Please contact me if you have any complaints about something done on this IP.
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Paul Abasolo
Thank you for your clear and well-founded explanations, Al. You do a big job here in the WP, football-related articles will miss you very much — I hope you'll return after a break.
Regarding the current club of Abasolo, it was an anonymous IP who added that piece of information, I only fixed the code that went broken when he/she added that, after verifying that Abasolo really is in that Greek club through several news sources (and he's also shown as part of their squad in the article "Kerkyra"). Sorry that the source I quoted isn't reliable — the most known English-language news sources don't use to mention transfers of non-elite Basque players to clubs in the Greek second league. This Spanish-language one is reliable enough, I think. --Xabier Armendaritz(talk)09:33, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Jonathan Soriano
Não vejo sentido em eliminar a tabela por apenas não estar completa, ainda mais considerando que há vários artigos com estatísticas de apenas um clube do jogador. Quanto às referências, é apenas necessário adicioná-las no artigo. Mas por mim, mantendo ou não, não faz muita diferença, não há muito do meu interesse no artigo mesmo, apenas não me agregou vê-la sendo eliminada após eu corrigir os jogos/gols errados. Paulo (talk) 01:33, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
re: Adrián López Álvarez
Hi.
I can agree with you, it is more logical to link to the competition proper, but do we have to link the word progress. To me when a reader se the word progress linked it is not the first idea it would link to the tournament.
About the "it" I must say english is not my native, but to me it just sounds a bit weird and I would never use that word in that place.
Also there is one small thing I changed as well but failed to comment in the edit summary. To me you can not win "at chelsea" you win against them or you win at their ground. Not at the team itself. Their must me some sort of solution there both can agree on?
I hope we can reach some sort of agreement, this is just minor things and not really much to argue about. QED237(talk)12:05, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
http://www.athletic-club.net/web/main.asp?a=2&b=1&c=1&d=0&idi=2: "Athletic Club as an institution, along with its supporters are characterized by their desire to defend values which are becoming increasingly uncommon in football and in sports overall in the 21st Century. Our pride, reflected to the hilt in the club’s policy concerning the Young Player's Reserve, has become a uniting force which outweighs the discrepancies to be found in our daily lives, making our philosophy different to any other and different to the way football is understood throughout the world. Athletic Club is located in Bilbao, in the province of Biscay (The Basque Country). The club's sporting philosophy is governed by a code which states that only players, who have come up through the club's young players' reserve or the young players’ reserve of the other clubs in The Basque Country, which includes the following territories: Bizkaia, Gipuzkoa, Araba, Nafarroa, Lapurdi, Zuberoa and Nafarroa Behera or players that were born in these territories, may be signed up.Club's Name: Athletic Club
Founded: 1898
Headquarters: Ibaigane, Alameda Mazarredo, 23 - 48009 Bilbao"
Make sure you know what you're talking about before you bitch on my page again.
I made a wholesale edit to revert the mess you had made of my previous edit and unfortunately did not notice that you had corrected anything that was actually necessary. My mistake.
As for my previous message, I was responded in that manner in reply to your aggressive tone (using of caps) on my page and in your edit summary.
Disagree about the Bernabéu thing. Would you also prefer Dragão Stadium to Estádio do Dragão?
I apologise for misinterpreting your post. There are parts of the article I would wish to tidy up but I don't want to get into an edit war so I'll explain them to you.
1. "Koke scored his first goal for Atlético", I would prefer "first goal in La Liga/Primera División" as he had previously scored in the B team and we don't have stats to tell whether he had previously scored in friendly matches. I would also say that a first goal in La Liga is a more significant milestone than the first for a club.
2. Re-instate commas after dates. Don't know why these were removed as it is the correct practice and standard English.
3. 47th minute and 90th minute without the hyphen is the standard usage.
4. Change phrasing which sounds awkward to a native English speaker. "He finished his first full season as a professional with 17 games" - "having played" should replace "with". "With" would work with "appearances" but not "games". "Matches" is preferable to "games" in BrE but I'm fine with either. "Koke was again important midfield unit" - "unit" doesn't sound right, something like "was an important member of Atléticos midfield" makes him sound like a human rather than an object.
"for the 2014 FIFA World Cup qualifiers" - doesn't work in English. "In a 2014 FIFA World Cup qualifying match" sounds much better and more natural. "Ended in the group stage" - "ended at the group stage" (though both read worse than the more to the point "as the nation/team was knocked out at the group stage". The next sentence is a mess. "The nation" is then used again in the same paragraph and "the final" has been removed for some reason. There is also an ambiguous "it" (The nation won what? The team of the tournament?)
"in the club's successful run in the Europa League" - "in/during the club's successful Europa League run/campaign"
"helping to a 2-2 home draw" - "helping Atlético/the team to a 2-2 draw". "Helping" needs an object.
"Being the 1-1 equaliser" - a native speaker would never refer to a "1-1 equaliser".
"Assists" is a far more common term that "decisive passes".
5. Alter tabloid phrasing "found the net", "netted", "netting", "came of age" (which is particularly jarring here as the word "age" has already been used in the same sentence).
6. "Koke scored his seventh official goal of the season." What is the importance/relevance of his seventh goal? A first Champions League goal is the significant milestone here and should be foregrounded. Also, no-one ever writes about "official goals" in English unless they are talking about players with huge numbers of career goals like Pelé, Romário or Messi. Just "goal" is fine. Same with "38 of his 48 official appearances".
7. Remove unnecessary wordiness which adds nothing. E.g. "of an eventual 2-2 draw" - "of a 2-2 draw" is fine.
Sorry it's not a good period for me your apologies aren't necessary and good work.
Also i thinked that i can write the exact date of the edit.
Cheers
Also please see Benfica probably some juve fans are writing errors, vandals (for example Uefa mafia)→[3] now i can't because the temporal is coming in Venice province if you want see Benfica.
Fixed, there was something to do with the bizarre message above yours that was messing the page up. And I don't actually know why adding the quotation marks fixed it, I thought I'd give it a try and it actually worked. It would seem this is the real Wiki-style Twilight Zone :) Mattythewhite (talk) 19:08, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Re: This is good for...
I agree the passage is excessive, and the English is difficult to understand. The offline references seem legit but they would obviously be removed if the content is. I would recommend a WP:FOOTY discussion, just to ensure you have consensus on your side. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
United States[edit]
Francisco was the 2160 Hellen Keller quick scope champion 20 years running. All while doing soccer.--79.50.5.33 (talk) 01:26, 7 May 2014 (UTC)ciao
Probably you Have understand who i am , i m testing wikipedia on my new tablet so i u se --79.50.5.33 (talk) 01:33, 7 May 2014 (UTC)this ip
+Javier Zanetti possibile error or vandalism Good night--79.50.5.33 (talk) 01:40, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi again. Thanks for your explanations. It is obvious that a coach can be employed both at a club and the national level. And it might be more appropriate to call the first section "club career" instead of "playing career." However, it is easier to read and to write articles if we adhere to standards. I looked up several article on players turned coaches, and took the structure I found. I invite you to have a look at other articles, for example: Carlo Ancelotti. Cheers. BenT/C13:50, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Rivera and Arzu
Ciao Al dal Veneto
This ip 79.50.5.3 was used by me in Jesolo i will never use this ip in future.
I don't understand the revert on Rivera becuase he is know as Rivera.
For example in Fifa 2007, Pes 2009, fifa 2006 he's called Rivera.--Lglukgl (talk) 18:59, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Acho que a mensagem que deixei nessa página foi mal entendida, não sei, não compreendi bem a sua última mensagem. Deixei as estatísticas, assim como você solicitou na página.
E quanto à sua saída da WP, é realmente uma pena, você me ajudava bastante (principalmente no meu "começo" aqui). Espero que mudes de ideia quanto a isso, mas a decisão é sua.
Devo dizer que a melhora no meu inglês, assim como nas 'habilidades' da WP foram, em grande parte, sua ajuda. Atualmente estou ficando mais ocupado, devido ao trabalho e à faculdade, então entro ocasionalmente na WP. Por isso a demora nas respostas. Mas (acredito eu) que é uma fase momentânea, e voltarei a editar tanto quanto antigamente.
Meu amigo, o cara não aparece em quase nada atualmente, só achei notícias atuais com ele falando da vida, mas nada de estatísticas. Até os 'youth clubs' foram mais fáceis. Vou dar mais uma procurada rápida para ver se tenho mais sorte, mas acredito que não apareça nada mais do que o mundial Sub-20 que ele disputou. Abraços, MYS77talk with me ☺21:50, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
I respect your work i don't do vandalism i 've added a information with source.
--Lglukgl (talk) 19:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Saluti e buona settimana
My intencion was added that kasimpasa has bought castro not removed the loan sorry for the error i'm having problem to edit WP with the tablet.
I usually add a source when i remove or add information.
Sorry but i don't understand these italian ;
Avanti di essere acquisto en permanenza, ha statto ceduto nall Kasimpasa.
Scusa si il mio sommario ha statto un po aggressivo, sono lasso a bastanza, e lascio la WP dopo il Mondiale, per sempre, otto anni fa que ho cominciatto--Lglukgl (talk) 22:42, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
OK no problem now i have understand. You are not aggressive thanks for help.
I hope that you return after a long pause but it's your life it's your future it's your decision and we respect your decision.
In italy we say: Ascolta il cuore→listen your heart
Good italian:
Prima di essere stato acquistato dal Kasimpasa era stato ceduto in prestito al Kasimpasa.
Scusa se nella discussione sono stato un po aggressivo, sono abbastanza stanco e lascerò per sempre Wikipedia finiti i mondiali, ho cominciato 8 anni fa qui
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PRODed as no indication of notability. I don't see any problem with the referencing of the honours at present, if GS removes them again explain they are sourced in the prose. IP blocked. Sorry, I would have replied last night but had just got in after travelling back from York's match, and knew I wouldn't be much help when half-awake. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 13:54, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I just learned the sad news that User:Daemonic Kangaroo has stopped editing, and while looking up what happened, I noticed your question from a while back about Joleon Lescott on his talk page. Yesterday it was made public that he's leaving the club. The fans wish him well; his name was frequently sung loudly during the victory parade. But the reason Pellegrini didn't take to him is simple: his ability on the ball, and in particular his passing, is not Champions League level. He's one of those typical English centre halves who is great at blocks and headers and the physical stuff, but not so cultured in possession. Against a team like Stoke or Crystal Palace he is ideal. However, Pellegrini likes to play a high line at the back. In that system, teams who press from the front (like Southampton) quickly worked out that if you pressure Lescott when he has the ball, he is likely to panic and kick it long. Demichelis might turn more slowly than a pint of milk, but Pellegrini likes him because he is better on the ball. Actually, the last 3 months of the season Demichelis has really improved. He's gone from being the subject of abuse in the stands to having Happy Mondayssongs reworked in his honour. Oldelpaso (talk) 20:54, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Have you tried taking a break? I'm not particularly active myself these days; I've probably only made a few hundred edits in the last year. Even when I was more active though, I regularly took breaks from editing of a month or more. It definitely helped to prevent burnout. I'll never be as active as I once was, people's life priorities change, but after so much time with the project saying "never again" is a big step. Editing in small flurries every once in a while can be a nice balance.
It would take a very long time for me to run through my views on what has led the English game to become what it is :-) English players are expensive and mediocre. Last summer Andy Carroll was transferred for a bigger fee than World Cup winner Jesus Navas. Youth development here is poor, and the problem starts while they're still at school. Spain has something like 12 times as many coaches with a UEFA "A" Licence than England. Well intentioned but ultimately incompetent coaches are put in charge of kids' teams - the other week while I was running in a local park I saw a coach getting kids of about 9 years old to do press-ups! Hardly a ball in sight! There is still the mentality that big strong players play centre half (or maybe centre forward), and the small fast ones play on the wing. So we get centre backs like Terry or Lescott with poor ball skills, and brainless Forrest Gump style wingers like Lennon or Walcott. We haven't produced a proper number 10 since Paul Gascoigne. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Jorge Jesus
Hi. I have no idea what the hell you are on about - "respect other people's work", "compressing" (yes, very important - there was not enought space there!), "overlinking TOS!" and "edit summaries". You got all that from my adding "da"? Wow!. Tell you what, I made a genuine change, that you agree with, therefore everting it just for the heck of it, is considered vandalism. This is the ENGLISH wikipedia - readers are less familiar with subject, therefore correct use is paramount. But don't worry, I don't edit football, so I won't be coming anywhere near your playpen. Carry on playing. "My bad"? what are you? 15 years old? Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 09:55, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I agree about excluding pre-season tournaments, they're con-competitive and don't always include first team players. I've watchlisted the article. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 15:30, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
References aren't needed in honours section. If if you think they are then why didn't you add references for the titles/trophies won? Give a proper justification or I will remove the useless reference. 85.240.136.129 (talk) 19:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Ideally, the references wouldn't be in the honours section as they'd be sourcing the equivalent prose. If that were done I think we'd improve the articles and the IP wouldn't have grounds for complaint. But as the articles are ATM, he is wrong to remove the references as we are left with that content completely unsourced. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 12:32, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
OBlak
Hello. Feel free to do as you please (by wiki standards off course). A person can have the same last name (surname) as someone else or can share the same last name (surname). It doesn't really matter, imo both are good. Regards, Ratipok (talk) 23:49, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Gabriel Fernández Arenas
Ok i thinked that it was correct simply sorry for the error.(i thinked Simply=Semplicemente, and he's known as gabi)
Also some ip are doing errors vandalism and others in Atletico Madrid page and current squad section.
Grazie per la segnalazione buona domenica AL--Lglukgl (talk) 01:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi AL
I read that you are retiring after the World Cup :'( please reconsider, this project is indebted to you! I know that I'm a nightmare to work with, but I hold you in high regard, believe it or not. '''tAD''' (talk) 16:59, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Before you leave, could you make sure that the 2014 Taça de Portugal Final article is ship-shape (probably after the final result), as our resident genius of Portuguese football?
Amigo, desculpa se reverti alguma edição tua em Carles Puyol, mas haviam removido um monte de informações, como que ele jogou no Barcelona C e nas categorias inferiores da Espanha. Uma pena ele acabar sua carreira assim, por causa do joelho. Aliás, seu último jogo acabou sendo aquele em que é relatado no artigo como ele marcando um gol. Sem dúvida foi um dos maiores de todos os tempos.
Perfeito, amigo. Embora pareça claro que ele vá se aposentar, ele não confirmou. E, como você disse, o mundo dá voltas. Vai que vem uma boa proposta e o joelho volte a melhorar (o que duvido, mas...)... Enfim, acho que tua intro é a ideal neste momento.
Is there a reference for him playing at Barça C? Futbolme was the only source that I can think of that would have that info, but apparently there's no longer a players page, and the Spanish FA's only go back to 2003-04. Raul17 (talk) 18:40, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi there RAUL, AL "here",
i don't know of any source available, but USER:MEGA60 operates 100% exclusively on Spanish football and he added that to box, and i have total trust in him. Maybe you can contact him, even though he edits here from time to time only, he'll sure provide a source for you.
Probably premature, but if it's deleted or left unused until the 23 man squad is confirmed we'll probably face a wave of recreations/readditions, and it wouldn't be worth our while undoing them. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 00:21, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
I hope you're leaving cause you found a nice job, VASCO. I for one will miss you, and your good work for FOOTY is much appreciated, not just by me, I'm sure.
So what they are there in the B team? Does that mean that they are omitted from the A team? Where is it written that a player playing for B team cannot be mentioned in the squad of the A team even when the website mentions him? Where? RRD13 (talk) 15:56, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Even not mentioned directly on the page, the is no reason to link the euro, its a common well known currency. Murry1975 (talk) 18:57, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Other
Ciao Al
These are my last edit here because i will leave WP now due to general problems.
Some users say that i write false information, mistakes, lousy errors and other, and last deletion and redirect who i don't accept (for example Passo das Emas) So i leave WP.
Probabilmente sono io il problema e lascio poi magari forse tornerò più avanti non so.
Buon proseguimento Al Saluti e grazie--Lglukgl (talk) 21:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
i'm not sure that i will leave forever but now it's time to finish here for a long break in the future i can come back i don't know.
about the problems and difficults i've tried to talk but my bad english doesn't help me.
I assume you are aware of WP:NFOOTBALL being the benchmark for player/manager notability, which states that "Players who have played, and managers who have managed in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable", right? And WP:FPL confirms that the Cypriot First Division is indeed a fully professional league, so the article is good to stay. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello. If you look at the time of my last edit yesterday and the time of your first message to my talk page yesterday, you'll see that I didn't edit at all after any of your messages, and that this is in fact my first edit since any of your messages on my talk page. So how you twist that into a need to apologise for "bothering" me escapes me entirely.
Please look at wp:v -- any material that is uncited and challenged violates wp:v, and may be removed at any time. WP is not a repository for uncited information, and removal of such material is always appropriate (it is not "too much", as you suggest -- the material is simply not appropriate, and per wp:burden requires an inline RS cite once removed). But one may restore it if -- and only if -- one provides an RS-supporting inline citation. Best. --Epeefleche (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, AL. I want to replace "The club is ranked 5th in the Liga I All-Time Table, with 55 seasons played to this date." with a phrase that tells how many trophies FC Petrolul Ploiesti won. Something like "Petrolul won four national titles and three Romanian Cups since its establishment.", but more catchy. I'm asking you because I know you have a lot of experience. 8Dodo8 (talk·contribs) 07:53, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, AL. There's a guy that keeps adding a section called "Notable former players" on Petrolul's page. These are common on Romanian football clubs pages, but I want Petrolul's page to look like the articles of big clubs from Europe, and they don't add that section. His coding is bad, and he added some players that were not even important to the club. I keep undoing his edits, but he can't seem to stop. If the things get worse, could you contact an admin that could sort things out? Cheers. 8Dodo8 (talk·contribs) 13:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey,this guy thinks that removing that part makes the page look like a "Big club" one. He cannot remove that part of the Petrolul page for just a few players, he can try and edit it. The Wikipedia Romania page of this club has "former players" too. This Former players just shows you the history of this club,the players which made a difference. The coding i used is from another page,Anorthosis Famagusta from Cyprus and it's made very well.
You're indeed correct, and I'm not entirely sure what the users' argument is; I've never seen heights written as centimetres rather than metres, and his amendment didn't even make them appear as such. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Help with phrasing (again)
Hey, AL! I was reading the history of Petrolul on their official site and I discovered why the players are nicknamed "the wolves". It seems that their emblem depicted Romulus and Remus being breastfeed by a she-wolf. "Tradiția latină cultivată de noul club sportiv era ilustrată și de emblema acestuia, care evoca istoria orașului Roma, cu lupoaica alăptându-i pe Romulus și Remus." ---> "The latin tradition cultivated by the sports club was illustrated by its emblem, which evoked the history of Rome, the she-wolf nursing Romulus and Remus."[4] Could you help with phrasing? Also, "they lost the second leg of the semi-finals against rivals Astra Giurgiu (2–1), after a 0–0 result at home.", should it be (1–2) instead of (2–1)? 8Dodo8 (talk·contribs) 08:55, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
All are notable, they have either played in a fully pro league or have played international football, both can be used to attribute notablity. Murry1975 (talk) 19:07, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Amigo, estou pensando seriamente em me 'aposentar' também. Se não bastasse o PJ, agora tem esse Walter Görlitz para encher a minha paciência. O cara reverte tudo, sempre com alguma desculpa. Primeiro, era usar templane no artigo do Barcelona. Deixei quieto. Depois, ele dividir em duas colunas os jogadores cedidos. Novamente deixei passar. Agora ele quer transformar o Mascherano em meio-campo, sendo que nos últimos três anos eles joga exclusivamente de zagueiro. Nem preciso te dizer isso. De boa, se isso não é perseguição não sei mais. Isso cansa, cansa de verdade. Daí eu deixo essa também e logo ele vem com outra e vai seguindo. Não tenho mais um pingo de paciência. Sei que não é seu problema, estou apenas comentando. Abraço.
Obrigado pela ajuda, mas lógico ele não aceitou. Era de se imaginar, por isso estou farto disso tudo. Então reverti pontos que havia deixado de lado, justamente para não entrar em confronto: mas o que adianta quando apenas um lado cede? Complicado tudo isso. Novamente, obrigado meu amigo.
Tranquilo, cara. Nós sabemos que ele é zagueiro, todo mundo sabe disso. Ele joga há três apenas nesta posição, mas é claro que o site oficial traz sua posição original. Alguns utilizadores do WP são muito babaca (esse cara e o tal PJ, por exemplo), se acham no direito de tirar sarro, de mandar no troço. Obrigado pela ajuda. Vou acompanhar o caso, mas não vou me estressar mais. Se mudarem e insistirem, ficará errado mesmo. Se querer assim, o que podemos fazer? Abraço e ótima páscoa.
Não apaguei nenhuma informação de sua página (entendi que você me escreveu isso). Quanto ao demais, você tem razão. Não vale se incomodar com isso. Abraço e ótima semana. Cara, não reparei, com certeza foi sem intenção. Mas ele costuma apagar tudo, quem sabe foi ele, pois realmente não reparei, mas que bom que está tudo bem. Totalmente sem querer, meu chapa. Abraço.
Hey, Vasco! Now I understand what Gringo means about Walt!! Gotten chewed out because I asked about one his edits, but I was not implying he was wrong!! I just wanted infomation! ([5]; If you want to follow along.) In my defense, I only saw the change he made to the article not the whole sentense!! In my ignorance, I would not have known that the original was wrong, hence the question to him. Perfect example why I leaving WP!! I guess he's Atléti!! Raul17 (talk) 07:29, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Sorry you feel like I chewed you out. I didn't chew you out the first time, just reverted and told you to read the guideline. The second time I chewed you out because you didn't read. I suppose it's no use to point you to WP:NPA. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, AL. Can I call you Vasco? You always help when I ask, I really appreciate it. :)
" It was founded in 1924 as Juventus București, following the merger of Triumf București and Romcomit București. The latin tradition cultivated by Juventus was illustrated by its emblem, which was based on the history of the foundation of Rome, where a she-wolf nursed Romulus and Remus.[2] The team's current home colors are yellow and dark blue. Accordingly, the players are nicknamed "The Yellow Wolves". "
Let me know if 181.50.74.183 engages in more disruptive editing. I can't see where Yucheng48 undid my moves to Koke/Cala looking through their contributions... I've messaged them regarding their summaries. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 15:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your note and thanks for seeking a second opinion. I would like, however, to set a couple of things straight because there are a couple of different things going on. There's the centimetres-vs-metres issue and there's the issue of how to do the conversion.
Firstly, centimetres seems to me the more common way of expressing a person's height (at least where I'm from they are). There's been a bit of discussion about this recently with a few other editors agreeing with this (e.g. on the {{height}} talk page (this being why the template now accepts centimetres)). Mattythewhite, it seems, wouldn't agree (fair enough, he's from another country ... but since he's from England where soccer is vastly more popular than it is here it seems fair to go with his opinion).
Okay, so, initially I replaced metres with centimetres but my edit also did something else. The second purpose was to made use of the infobox's internal conversion code. When you "reverted" my edit I assumed that it was because of the centimetre-vs-metre issue. (Note that it wasn't actually a reversion as such because my original edit didn't actually replace {{height}} but {{convert}}.)
I wasn't about to push the centimetre-vs-metre issue any further but still saw using the infobox's autoconversion worthwhile. So, I went back and reinstated the autoconversion, this time, however, using metres. (This is why Mattythewhite writes "I've never seen heights written as centimetres rather than metres, and his amendment didn't even make them appear as such." So, when you reverted this edit, there was no change in what was displayed on the page (it just changed the code in edit mode ... making is a bit more cumbersome).
So, the question is whether I failed to make clear what I was up to or you disagree with the idea of using the infobox's inbuilt autoconversion. P.S. Another question, whilst I'm at it, is why use {{height}} rather that the bigger, better & faster {{convert}}? {{Height}}'s a tired old relic from the bad old days when we had a different template for each different conversion, it's time for it to be retired.
Do Argentines adopt two surnames in the same fashion as Spaniards, because I really don't know? I've seen a second surname (his mother's surname) added at Lionel Messi, but the present source lists only one surname. But at Eduardo Berizzo, I think we would need a definitive source that includes his forenames and surnames altogether, instead of cobbling together a full name using multiple sources. And the reason I added 'known as...' is because he is known by his middle name, so as to avoid any confusion our readers may have as to why the title is 'Eduardo Berizzo' when the name in the lead is 'Manuel Eduardo Berizzo'. This has been done at a number of articles, including Adam Smith (footballer, born February 1985) and Barry Hutchinson. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 16:27, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
But he is known as Eduardo Berizzo, rather than just Berizzo, surely? Like Wayne Rooney is known predominantly as that and not merely Rooney. If that were the case, their article names would be just their surnames, per WP:COMMONNAME. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:09, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm just as clumsy with stars as I am with WP regs!! But you deserve more!! ¡Hala Madrid! ¡¡Hala Vasco!! Raul17 (talk) 09:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Vários
Também não gostei da vitória do Real; estava torcendo para o Atleti, um time muito mais aguerrido. Mas ainda assim, acredito que o Cristiano é mais humilde fora de campo do que o Messi; dentro dele é outra história... Já o Mourinho acho um arrogante prepotente.
Quanto ao nosso amigo italiano, não sei mais o que fazer. Contribuir ele contribui, mais de uma maneira extremamente pobre. Me parece que o que mais importa para ele é a quantidade de páginas que ele cria, mas já a qualidade delas...
Cara, eu estou tão enrolado aqui no Brasil, mas acredito que depois da copa eu entre num curso de inglês. Veremos.
Assim como aceito a tua, Ronaldo tem sim seus momentos. Não vou falar que não. A mídia força as pessoas a adularem ele aí em Portugal, assim como aqui no Brasil a mídia força certos jogadores. Mas ainda acho ele "melhor" do que o Messi, quando um fã invadiu o campo no amistoso contra o Chelsea, ele o abraçou e o levou até fora de campo. Já o Messi, quando outro fã tentou o mesmo, quis se esquivar do tipo.
Uma coisa que ele tem é essa habilidade de 'marketing pessoal', assim como o Neymar também. E é bem verdade que parece que o pessoal de hoje em dia só vê Cristiano e Messi em campo, parece que não existem outros (muito pelo contrário, se eu fosse citar aqui os jogadores habilidosos de hoje em dia, teria que escrever até amanhã).
Isso que as pessoas que se sobressaem (principalmente jogadores de futebol) fazem é extremamente desnecessário. Ele é bom? Sim. Mas precisa gravar um documentário? Não. Precisa deixar de comemorar com seus companheiros de time (que, afinal, o auxiliam a fazer gols)? Não. Eu gosto mais do Cristiano do que do Messi, sim, mas se fosse para escolher um jogador não escolheria nenhum dos dois. MYS77talk with me ☺16:39, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Yeste
Ciao Al dal Veneto
Are we sure that Yeste (former Olympiacos and Baniyas player) is a retired footballer?
I haven't find a source about this and es.wikipedia says :es un futbolista español, que juega de centrocampista. Actualmente se encuentra sin club, siendo un agente libre representado por Ismael Urzaiz.
I know this but if you write on google Yeste Retirement there aren't results and on es.wikipedia nothing.
So i have writed in your talk page.
In April A person has offered me a work for this season but this person now has financial problems(I don't know if you know the italian situation but there are many social financial and econimical problems here)and i can 't work now then i was angry due to the deletion of Passo das Emas and i've announced the pause or retirement.
After the pause (6days) i've decided to return here,is it a problem?
If you want that i leave WP block me and the game is finish.
1Se avessi lavorato in estate mi sarei ritirato ma ci sono problemi economici
2È capitato anche a te di essere arrabbiato o stanco e di dire lascio WP ma poi dopo una pausa sei ritornato ?
Ahah no aggressive in italian(battuta, scherzo) i'm not a aggressive people sorry .
I know that i'm problem for you, Mys and WP for my bad english and the WP rules.
Solo una frase così scherzo nessuna offesa scusa niente di personale OK?So che vi creo problemi per il mio scarso inglese e per le linee guida che pian piano comprendo.
Scusa x tutto
I ve corrected the section HONOURS because Honors is not correct in english.
Saluti e buona notte oggi io continuo ancora fino a tardi --Lglukgl (talk) 23:26, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Jan Kromkamp
I have the article watchlisted so I will watch out for vandalism, though If I'm not wrong there hasn't been an unconstructive edit on the article in almost a year. I'm a little confused by your assertion that promotions shouldn't be classed as honours; if they're not honours what are they? Mattythewhite (talk) 23:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
And I imagine the very reason they received those medals was because they earned promotion. Like the York City players did after winning promotion at Wembley in the play-offs the same year... despite finishing a measly fourth! If that's not regarded a career honour then I don't know what is. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Remember however to keep his goal against Slovenia in the table, even though as a friendly, you're right, it wasn't worth mentioning. But we could say that he scored in both of Uruguay's warm-up matches, without the detail on who/what/when/why/how? '''tAD''' (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diligence
I award you this for your tireless work on football biographies, particularly of players who have played in Spain and Portugal. Whenever I look at a page and I see your great summaries and well-researched sources, I know for a fact that you've been there! '''tAD''' (talk) 15:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
In the page about Ariza Makulula is not clear if Ariza is free agent or plays with the Tero Sasana.
Is it F.agent?
--Lglukgl (talk) 19:30, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I talked about Ariza but ok stop also about Joselu i want ed to create Joselu but there are five Joselu in Europe and Almeria is the most important team of his career so i used redirect Joselu Almeria becuase →→→→https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:R#KEEP
Cosadevo dire?poi nessuno ha risposto nulla me ne vado da qui ho iniziato a sospettare qualcosa di molto strano [6] Ciao
Sembra io sia di troppo qui e ho iniziato a sospettarlo, nessuna accusa solo sembra che per voi sia meglio che io lasci avevo avvisato tutti del mio ritorno qui prima di ([7])
Yes you have, to create a page called "Joselu Almería" (or a page called "Gianluigi Juventus" or "Francesco Roma") is a serious error. OK BUT why the WP Football doesn not delete the redirects?
OK if i'm not a problem for you, Mys and WP i will come back i repeat my intencion was not provocar with my edit
i'm trying to become better --Lglukgl (talk) 20:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Ciao
The translate (not google) :limitatissimo (di testa) , so i thinked you were insulting me thanks for the precisation, referred about my english is ok but about my person no Thanks for the information and sorry
Sinceramente, já estou perdendo a paciência com esse cara. Não sei se ele possui alguma deficiência ou algo do tipo, mas nada que nós falamos a ele parece surtir efeito! Não vejo as páginas dele melhorarem em quase nada, e vou sinceramente fingir que não ligo. Mas mexer em páginas que eu constantemente atualizo (e consequentemente estragá-las) é demais para mim.
Não sei se ele faz para provocar. Eu simplesmente não entendo como ele não consegue entender as regras (nós as explicamos para ele desde Janeiro, ou até antes).
Já estou me sentindo triste, com a tua saída terei que atuar de "babá" deste tipo. O pior é que eu escrevo a ele direto, peço para que antes de criar as páginas ele pesquise informações, mas de que adianta? Continua tudo sendo um bando de páginas vazias, pois as informações que ele inclui e nada é quase a mesma coisa.
O pior foi o dia que eu o questionei se, para ele, quantidade era mais importante que qualidade, e ele me respondeu que para ele, era sim. (Então quer dizer que vou ter que melhorar uma infinidade de páginas suas, amigo?)
Pode ter certeza que o dia que minha paciência esgotar eu vou-me embora daqui.
Sinceramente, prefiro que qualquer outra seleção ganhe a Copa, pois a vitória do Brasil cegará a população (teremos eleições em outubro), e o país continuará essa porcaria que é hoje.
Ah, e meu chute é 5 ou 6 seleções. Sei que temos brasileiros naturalizados pelo mundo todo, mas acho que nessa copa não são tantos. Abraços! MYS77talk with me ☺14:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Parece que nenhum de nós acertou. São quatro seleções (sem contar o Brasil, logicamente) que possuem brasileiros naturalizados: (Diego Costa - Espanha, Thiago Motta - Itália, Sammir e Eduardo - Croácia e Pepe - Portugal) :)
O mais estranho é que eu solicitei a exclusão destas duas páginas aqui, mas o pessoal de lá me disse que elas poderiam ser mantidas por causa do WP:R#KEEP. Li os tópicos, acredito que o '3' é o que chega mais perto mas não continua sendo motivo para manter essas duas páginas na WP. MYS77talk with me ☺23:41, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Adicionei a página da WP italiana na discussão. Apesar de ele poder editar as páginas com uma conta anônima, garantimos que páginas ruins não serão criadas (pelo menos não por ele). Boa semana, MYS77talk with me ☺13:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Sim, a questão do 'graduate' eu vacilei, como dizemos aqui no Brasil... É mais um dos jogadores com "notabilidade futura" do nosso amigão! O problema é: ele ainda não foi confirmado oficialmente :( Logo eu que torço para o Almería... MYS77talk with me ☺15:43, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Quanto a mim, CTRL+C CTRL+V e Google Tradutor. Só assim entendi, pois italiano eu não sei absolutamente nada, apenas pizza e spaghetti... MYS77talk with me ☺19:26, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I figured it would be courteous of me to reply, even though it seems you have an outstanding admiration for this player (so do I) and you will eventually revert any users' edits to his page. In regards to your last message, I'm not user ovinod neither have a registered page hence why my IP address shows when I edit Portugal national team and its' current and past players. In the near future, you should consider taking other users opinions/edits into consideration rather than reverting their edits just because it's disrespectful and you don't think it's right or it was just fine as you mentioned to ovinod's edits. If it's not vandalism and there's good faith involved, don't revert just because it was just fine. Remember: you mentioned, Fine as it was... Therefore fineisn't perfect, there's always room for improvement. It's almost like as if you own the page I should say.
Not a problem, I'm not here to be angry at anyone or make friends, simply to contribute to WP like any of us. Definitely take that time off if you think it's necessary as it will help reconsider your point of view/decisions.
Pois, o LG não aparece aqui desde o dia da discussão. Parece que levou a coisa para o lado pessoal... eu sinceramente não vejo diferença. Acredito que o Angelo não quis se envolver. Abraços, MYS77talk with me ☺21:20, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Come mi avete consigliato di fare, ho fatto 4 giorni di pausa completa adesso bisogna mettersi d'accordo su come proseguire, non intendo andare avanti ancora con la pausa perciò:
Volete che ritorno?
Oppure mi ritiro definitivamente da qui
I have done 4 break days but i don't want to continue this pause, so i have two options:
Aspetto risposta buona settimana a te e famiglia e scusa il disturbo
O mais legal foi ele falando para mim que as páginas deles estavam boas e sem erros, pois havia copiado as minhas e trocado os nomes e links. Brilhante! (CTRL+C e CTRL+V = página perfeita).
Acredito que a ideia dele é a seguinte: "Eu paro por quatro dias (que na verdade foram três, ele editou no dia 5 e voltou no dia 8), volto e está tudo ok." As páginas dele continuam pobres (Bidco United F.C. e Busia United Stars F.C. - sorte que essas duas outro usuário as arrumou) e, ao que me parece, ele só continua criando as páginas por causa do ranking. Na sua página de descrição é a única coisa que aparece. MYS77talk with me ☺18:46, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Decidete tu e MYS comunque il tuo amico italiano non mi ha risposto.
D'ora in poi copierò completamente ogni creazione vostra (you + MYS) cambiando i dati.
Saluti buon proseguimento--Lglukgl (talk) 19:53, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Probably he 's not interested i don't know but believe me i'm trying to become better with new page.
Me parece que o "sistema copia e cola" vai continuar por um bom tempo. Aqui ele incluiu na própria sandbox modelos de páginas que eu criei para simplesmente copiar e colar. Eu também já não sei mais o que dizer... MYS77talk with me ☺00:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
I started using [[Portuguese <country>]] instead of [[Portuguese <country>|<Country>]] because of Eusébio infobox, which I'm gonna update following your suggestion. Fixed4u (talk) 18:01, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
Re: Page deletion / User warning
Are you sure this delete has been previously created and deleted? I can't see any deleted revisions on the page history. Was it previously under a different title? I've left him a brief message explaining player notability. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:55, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
The apologies aren't necessary, last week i was hungry for this(PROVOCAR Limitassimo deficiência) my english is not good but i'm not Limitatissimo, deficiente , idiot , moron, idiota, deficiência and others.
Probably i'm a vandal but i've talked with you, Mys, An. Rom and Mattythewhite and i have done the pause--Lglukgl (talk) 23:09, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Buone fortuna a te e famiglia e buon proseguimento
Also about →→my←← edits on →→→→→MYS77 sandbox←←←← i have added just Serie B not vandalism also where i've done mistakes?
Cara, eu realmente não percebia o quanto a WP era ótima antes da "contribuição" do LG por aqui... Eu tenho que reverter de 10 a 20 edições DIÁRIAS dele! Ele consegue errar até na inserção das posições em campo dos jogadores!
E ele sinceramente usou o NÚMERO de páginas que ele criou para justificar o erro? Sério? Se fôssemos analisar todas as páginas dele, acho que apenas umas 200 dessas 900 e tantas ficariam na WP (sem falar que, dessas 200, umas 150 seriam as que foram melhoradas por outros usuários).
E me parece que o Cristiano não estava afim de jogar ontem, e o Pepe voltou ao seu "normal".
My changes to Pepe (footballer, born 1983), which you have just reverted, were in response to a Talk page request. The requester correctly pointed out that the tenses in the lead are self contradictory and, therefore, two of them are incorrect:-
"who plays for Real Madrid in La Liga and the Portuguese national team" (present tense (and correct)) in the first paragraph
"During his professional career he played for ... Real Madrid" (past tense) in the second paragraph whereas Pepe is still a Madrid player (see List of Real Madrid C.F. players)
"Pepe represented Portugal at international level" (past tense) in the third paragraph, whereas he played for them yesterday and, despite receiving a red card, is still in the Portuguese National squad
Sorry, but your changes do not address the problem "Pepe represented Portugal", implies that he no longer represents Portugal; either because he has retired, or because he now represents somewhere else; whereas, despite his red card, he is still in the Portuguese National squad. Arjayay (talk) 13:53, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
"Cristiano Ronaldo, is a Portuguese footballer who plays as a forward for Spanish club Real Madrid and captains the Portugal national team"" not played, or captained
"Eduardo, is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays for Dinamo Zagreb and the Portuguese national team, as a goalkeeper." not played
"Beto (born 1 May 1982), is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays for Sevilla FC"
"Bruno Eduardo Regufe Alves (born 27 November 1981) is a Portuguese footballer of Brazilian descent who plays for Fenerbahçe S.K. in Turkey and the Portuguese national team"
"Fábio Alexandre da Silva Coentrão (born 11 March 1988) is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays for Real Madrid in Spain and the Portuguese national team"
"Rui Patrício played" - but only because YOU added it
It is, simply, the wrong tense and even if you can find an example you did not write, WP:OSE is no reason to repeat the mistake. Arjayay (talk) 14:35, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Exactly my point, as I said in my very first post, above. It says "plays for" (present tense) in the first sentence, but played for (past tense) in the second sentence and "represented" (past tense) in the third - these are contradictory. Arjayay (talk) 16:16, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Oceano da Cruz
Hi! About de Cruz's page. Just see your country's another coach, Andre Villas Boas. He was assistant in many teams but they were not included in the inbox. I have also many other examples. Thanks. GTVM92 (talk) 17:11, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Re: Oceano da Cruz
Per Template:Infobox football biography#Parameters, the infobox should provide "A list of clubs that the person has served with in the capacity of team manager. Please do not list positions other than team manager (such as assistant or coach positions, or director of football roles where this role is not considered managerial) unless that position is a significant part of the person's career; this will apply primarily to those with significant or perhaps primary experience in management". Personally, I never included non-managerial positions, and I don't think Oceano's positons constitute a significant part of his career, although that is debatable (the reason I don't like that passage). Mattythewhite (talk) 17:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Vasco, please do not mis-use rollback as you have done here, and certainly do not do so to re-add unreferenced information about living people as per our WP:BLP policy. GiantSnowman12:14, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
If you do not want rollback then I am happy to remove it for you; it is for quickly reverting vandalism, not disputing edits you disagree with. The discussion over honours was raised recently at WP:FOOTY and WP:BLPN; they need to be referenced directly in line with WP:BLP and WP:V. And what's this about you leaving? GiantSnowman18:03, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Achava até legal quando tu me pedias essas coisas, gosto de procurar essas estatísticas... Bom, eu não sei mais como ajudar um tipo que não sabe mais do que "my name is", e que me responde dizendo que "poxa, eu apenas copiei a sua página e usei a mesma linguagem" (que até agora não descobri qual é, deve ser alguma nova que ele inventou).
Ainda assim, acho que as páginas dele apenas contribuem para a WP quando alguém as edita do jeito correto. Nem na Copa o rapaz descansa!
É, acho que é o que eu devo fazer. Também entendi menos ainda, nos pergunda se deve sair, recebe de volta um "sim, dê um tempo" e fica nervoso? Então para que pergunta? Abraços, MYS77✉18:20, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
In The page about this former footballer (Idahor collapsed during a league game and later died on his way to the hospital.) there is facebook in the external links, Can i remove it ?--Lglukgl (talk) 21:02, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Nella pagina di questo povero calciatore morto sul campo di calcio c'è facebook, posso rimuovere Facebok?
I can understand you on august 2013 (on it.WP)i was tired, frustrated and had personal problems. i don't left Wp and i had the 'brilliant' to do vandalism to vent my frustration.
The best solution was take a pause but i was idiot and young and i 've done big errors then i've decided to repair join En.WP.
My english is not good and i will copy all MYS77 creations (style).Sorry to bother you , good luck AL and good luck for family
FIFA.com, my friend. He scored in a WC qualifier 9/6/12 only for Malawi to equalize immediately, I'll never forget it
Embele (talk) 03:13, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Delete page
Hey, AL. Could you talk to someone to speedy delete this page? From the latest news it seems that the project went down, it's nothing official yet and the page should be deleted.8Dodo8 (talk·contribs) 09:24, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks mate and good luck in your retirement. It's good that even though we've been at loggerheads in the past, we developed some good co-operation. I hope Portugal fare well in Brazil, they can't do any worse than your neighbour ;) '''tAD''' (talk) 20:56, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Really?
I was hoping to ask you who your team was before you retired, as I thought you had been keeping it secret to avoid allegations of biased editing. Anyway, enjoy your last few weeks! '''tAD''' (talk) 21:01, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
I will stop it, but it is slightly unusual and worth noting that Eder was called in for an injured striker in the first half for two games in a row at the World Cup. If he comes on in the last 10 minutes of the third game for a tactical move and does nothing, that's clearly not notable, even I can see that. '''tAD''' (talk) 12:02, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
No need to apologise, I'm sure it looks annoying at first to have what looks like a game-by-game commentary on the international career of a third-choice striker. I know that the article on Rickie Lambert became particularly thick with this kind of editing, due to the hype of him scoring in his first two games. Somebody felt the need to include that he played a third game and, like 99% of players do in international games, didn't score. '''tAD''' (talk) 12:17, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Re: User:Umberto Bottura
Sorry, I've not been trying to ignore you, just I've nothing much to add other than being surprised like you are. I've no involvement with the Portuguese WP so I probably know less than you regarding what goes on there. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
É, faz bastante sentido. Já vi que tem um cara que recentemente assinou com o Rayo Vallecano (nome: Diego Aguirre). Até tirei o "wikilink" para evitar uma nova criação do LG... Vou criar o mesmo como um (dos tantos que tenho) draft, e assim que o mesmo fizer sua estreia, mover a página para o destino correto (uns administradores fizeram isso com minhas páginas do Ryan Bird e do Lee Gregory (footballer, born 1988)). Boa sugestão, mas vou ouvir um Creed, Twenty One Pilots (é bem enérgica) ou OneRepublic, para ver se me acalmo hahaha :) Abraços! MYS77✉02:57, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Mas, pensando bem, o BDFutbol coloca os play-offs em seções separadas da liga. Agora fiquei confuso :( MYS77✉04:11, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Na minha opinião, não colocaria em nenhum, pois só um pequeno número de times joga os play-offs. MYS77✉18:36, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Ah, certo. :) O Luca continua criando paginas terríveis, só que agora, como ele copia nossa "base", a página parece menos horrível. Ainda assim, ele consegue errar coisas básicas em inglês (verbo "to be", por exemplo). Me zanguei porque certo usuário (um 'reviewer', Dr. Kadzi), falou que esta página estava ótima. Quando fui ver, tudo errado de novo. O título da referência estava no trans_title, a ficha do jogo estava no EXTERNAL LINKS, além de ele ter errado nas informações do jogador (clube atual). Como se nós nunca tivéssemos o advertido sobre todas essas coisas, não? Ele quis, novamente, argumentar dizendo que havia criado 900 páginas ("brilhante, mais quais delas que você criou e ninguém te ajudou são boas, meu chapa?"), outra coisa que nós havíamos explicado a ele (não interessa quantidade aqui)... Mas, como sempre, ou ele não quer ou algum problema o impede de entender as coisas. Abraços! MYS77✉19:48, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Sim, acredito que seja melhor. Ele não entende absolutamente nada! A última mensagem que deixei a ele deixa isso bem claro: eu disse a ele que não podia usar o uniforme de um time em uma página de outro (além disso, é estupidamente óbvio uma coisa dessas), mas ele ouviu? E olha que foi só dez dias antes... Abraços! MYS77✉11:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Olha, não querendo ser maldoso, mas nos temos sim motivos para até bloquear o Luca, veja aqui. O artigo fala sobre competência é necessária no projeto da WP, e eu não vejo muita no Luca, sinceramente. Peço sua ajuda só para um esclarecimento, se estou assumindo errado ou se estou certo. Abraços! MYS77✉00:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
E ainda aparece esse parágrafo no fim da página que me parece encaixar perfeitamente nas "tentativas" que tivemos com o Luca:
Finally, it does not mean we will give any good-faith editor an infinite number of opportunities to make themselves useful. If, after an appropriate amount of time and coaching, someone still isn't competent, don't make a heroic effort to defend them. Cut them loose, and focus your mentoring efforts on a better candidate. Abraços, MYS77✉00:36, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Ah sim, agora ele que se vire (se ficar aqui). Eu vou continuar também, tentar chegar a um nível tão bom quanto o teu. Veremos se eu consigo. Abraços! MYS77✉00:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Juanfran
Hi, I added a reference for Juanfran's international career statistics from eu-football.info, but possibly caused by the opponent, it omits his cap and goal against Equatorial Guinea in November 2013. I would be grateful if you could find me a more concise reference. '''tAD''' (talk) 23:29, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear you're leaving. You'll be sorely missed.
As for sourcing, I had every intention of doing that anyway. I just find it easier to work systematically, to first remove all the links and then replace them all. This is also why I've been tagging articles in which transfermarkt was the only source as unsourced. Not because I think the tag solves anything, but because it will easier to find the articles I need prioritise when I get to resourcing.
Hello, in regards to Pepe I could somewhat agree with you on that note. At the same time this isn't about winning or coming out on top of anyone, we are all here to make Wikipedia better with our contributions, and I believe having virtually all Portuguese national team players with the same intro (a Portugal international since.... etc ) is tedious and lacks originality. That is why there is a international career section and the Infobox which mentions caps, goals, etc, therefore we can avoid repetitiveness.
I thank you for your swift response, and as you can tell I never mentioned it wasn't correct English. That has nothing do with lack of originality and repetitiveness. We all have different opinions, and even though Pepe was an exception, there's not need to literally copy and paste the intro into virtually every player's page.
Quite amusing how you said Please stop reverting me and wait for the administrator's input, but somehow you keep reverting my edits, including Vieirinha's who played today for Portugal. Way to set the example.
Somehow you keep asking for me to stop reverting your edits and wait for the admin but you are the one continuing to do so, this time with Hugo Almeida. Not quite understanding your point.
I feel this is going for a while until one of us actually gives up. I feel this is a waste of time to keep coming here and trying to explain my point. You either haven't understood what I'm trying to explain or you're trying not to understand. It is LACK OF ORIGINALITY to have virtually all Portuguese national football team player's intros to be the same. Also in regards to my post on Matty's page, it is my honest opinion about a user (you) that is resilient to changes. Whether you think it's an insult or not, it is my opinion.
I apologize for failing to answer your previous question. I just now noticed it now and again, the problem with all this involves the fact that all players have the same intro. Not only that, but if the club career is already mentioned twice, why mentioned everything else twice? I hope this settles it.
Thanks for your reply. Since you mentioned you're leaving in 16 days, I would expect you to bother/care until that time. I'm not here to criticize anyone, but I just believe you shouldn't have taken such a personal approach to the situation. I'm sure you edits have help WP a great deal, but sometimes it's a matter of cooperation and understanding other user's points of view and contributions. Best of luck on whatever follows, no hard feelings.
I was never belittled your usage of the words "hard work", my apologies if you thought that when I italicized them. I simply italicize instead of quoting other user's words. I also never mentioned you worked harder than anyone else, I merely think those intros shouldn't be considered "hard work". But again, different people have different point of views.
Hi Vasco, I'm not sure about Scoresway to be honest, though if it not adding anything more than existing external links, there is no point in having it. GiantSnowman15:52, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
I know you to intend to leave soon anyway, but are you sure you don't want a few hours to maybe cool down and rethink leaving immediately? Mattythewhite (talk) 22:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Ovinod's concern seems to be regarding how we word the international career content, not whether it should be included, although I don't agree with their approach of removing the content. Rewording it would make more sense. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:30, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the late reply, was away for the day. I will definitely rephrase/reword the intros asap.
Hi, I just made a stub article on José Claramunt after finding a red link to his name on the list of Spanish players with over 20 caps. I find it amazing that a website with an article on practically every professional footballer ever has not yet covered a Spain international with 29 caps and a one-club career at one of Europe's elite clubs.
Anyway, in the table of his international goals, he scored two against Greece. However, this was 1973 and it was the Kingdom of Greece, with a different flag. Do you know how to change the code in the table to get the flag of the Kingdom of Greece, while maintaining the link to the Greece national team?
Also, something else. I put the name "José Claramunt", you replied with "Josep". Granted, this man was born in the 1940s so a Catalan name would have been frowned upon, but what is his WP:COMMONNAME, especially as I've seen "Pep Claramunt" as well. '''tAD''' (talk) 20:51, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
The second thing I was trying to bring up was that the Spanish and Catalan wikis refer to him as "Pep Claramunt" in his infobox as his common name. On the record of Pep Guardiola, should Claramunt be moved to Pep Claramunt? '''tAD''' (talk) 20:56, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
If you want a challenge, could you expand the stub on Enrique Claramunt? It was difficult to find prompts as he does not have an entry in any other language. I just outlined his BD Profile. Fair play for a stub, but Vasco Amaral never settles for a stub! ;) '''tAD''' (talk) 01:08, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Como nós bem sabemos, o rapaz, por melhor intencionado que fosse, não deveria (e na minha opinião nem poderia) continuar editando aqui. O nível de inglês dele é zero e suas contribuições davam mais trabalho para arrumar do que se a página não tivesse sido alterada.
Ao que me parece, ele deixou a WP no dia 23 de Maio (data de sua última edição como Lglukgl) e quatro dias depois voltou a editar como anônimo. Após isso, nada (agradeço, já que tu vais embora).
Aproveitando a oportunidade, desejo-te tudo de melhor daqui para a frente, e que tu tenhas tudo o que desejas em tua vida. Agradeço-te também por toda a ajuda que tu me deste desde que entrei aqui, e digo que você foi uma pessoa importante no meu processo de entendimento e desenvolvimento do meu inglês (que, é claro, ainda pode melhorar e muito).
Too bad! You're the only football expert on the WP that I know. Thanks for everything you did for me, I really appreciate it. Maybe you'll still visit the Wikipedia from time to time... :( PS: I'll use the WP:FOOTY article from now on 8Dodo8 (talk·contribs) 08:51, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Why he removed them instead of rewording them I don't know, only he could tell us that. Again, who knows why this user insulted you; some users just don't like being told they've done something wrong. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:24, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Bom, como esta WP não é meu problema, logo não vou falar nada, ele que se vire lá. E vou pedir ao Matty a exclusão do "Joselu Almeria", assinou com outro time da terceirona hoje.
Pois é, seria muito mais simples se ele voltasse para a WP do único país que ele realmente sabe (deve saber, suponho, se não souber italiano sendo um italiano, acredito que pode se jogar de uma ponte) e editasse lá, ao invés de ficar insistindo em outras WPs. Acho que ele não pode editar na WP italiana, mas... MYS77✉00:34, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Na 'talk page' do jogador Giva (aqui chamado assim, lá na WP espanhola foi criado como outra coisa completamente sem noção), eu tinha escrito o nome correto do jogador (uma das minhas poucas contribuições lá). Acredito que ele tenha visto. Mas soou, sim, como provocação. Desde que não volte para cá, por mim está ótimo. Que nem dizem aqui no Brasil, "deixe para outro segurar o rojão". Abraços! MYS77✉01:33, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Acho que tu não acreditarias em quantos idiotas existem aqui no Brasil... esses caras assim não tem jeito, parece que só existem para incomodar. Mas ainda bem que existem usuários para revertê-los, imagine como seria isso daqui sem nenhum monitoramento: um verdadeiro caos!
Fontàs really received a medal for not playing a minute of the UEFA Champions League 2008-09? Where did you read this? His first apparition (es:"convocatoria") in Champions with FC Barcelona was 24/11/2009 (2009/10). Thanks. --Zigurat (talk) 12:16, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I have seen your change. Fontàs make his Champions debut in Dec. 8, 2010 [11]. Oier and Milito, sure they have a medal for the Champions, but not Fontàs.
Coincido plenamente con tu análisis del FC Barcelona y de los clubes de fútbol en general. Sobre el periodismo, en España sucede lo mismo, es una pena que hayan dejado de banda la información para ponerse la camiseta de sus respectivos equipos. Los medios estatales con la bufanda del Real Madrid y los de Barcelona con la del Barça. Es vox populi que Florentino Pérez, el presidente del Madrid, cada semana desayuna con cuatro grandes representantes de la prensa española afín y junto a ellos marca la agenda mediática. El Barcelona se ha equivocado bastante últimamente, como cualquier club de fútbol con sus presidentes más o menos corruptos, pero fíjate la fiscalización que se hace del Barça. Se lanzó el falso rumor de que se dopaban, el contrato de Neymar denunciado por un sospechoso socio del Barça, la sanción de la UEFA por los contratos de menores (no conozco grandes clubes que no hagan lo mismo), etc. Y eso sin contar la tradicional rivalidad por el hecho de ser catalanes... :)
Sobre Di Stéfano, ya sabes dictadura y fútbol (Benfica y Salazar, Madrid y Franco). Pues últimamente se han desclasificado papeles oficiales de la época, concretamente del Ministerio de Deportes y de la Federación Española que indican que el contrato del Madrid era: "papel mojado" y que el contrato del Barcelona era el correcto. Ya conoces en que club acabó...
Sobre Cristiano, considero que es un fenómeno atlético, con un potente disparo y una bala encarando portería. En el resto, coincido nuevamente contigo. El personaje que se ha construido deja bastante que desear. Es el egoismo hecho persona.
Es una pena que muchos portugueses vean actualmente al Barcelona como a "rival", no solo por Cristiano, sinó también por Figo o Mourinho. En el Barça hemos tenido grandes jugadores portugueses: Baia, Couto, Figo, Deco, Simao, Quaresma. Y si a Figo la gente lo "odia" tanto es porque primero lo quiso muchísimo. Es como una mujer que te abandona y encima lo hace con el vecino con el que te llevas mal. Y Mourinho se formó en el Barcelona al lado de Bobby Robson, también hay un lío de amor no correspondido... jajaja
Es un placer conversar contigo. --Zigurat (talk) 09:07, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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Amigo, achei um site aqui que possui as fichas das partidas da Tercera División (pelo menos a maioria delas, as outras que faltam vou "caçar") e estou contando as partidas em que o tipo jogou. Em breve já atualizo! Abraços, MYS77✉16:06, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Pronto, adicionados! O cara participou de 28 (18) em 10/11, 30 (27) em 11/12 e 40 (17) incluindo play-offs em 12/13. MYS77✉17:21, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, do you know whether Juanfran played (and scored) in Spain's 2-1 win over Equatorial Guinea on 16 November 2013? The two sources used on his article ([12] and [13]) disagree on whether he played. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:14, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
I saw the prod tag was removed from José Luis Gómez Pérez, the user claiming the article passes WP:GNG. I'd say the current version of Jordi Alba is fine, with the content being referenced in the prose. Good to hear, it's surprising how many Transfermarkt links remain. Mattythewhite (talk) 01:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry that I didn't write to you after I edited the page, I was on mobile which is a bit of a pain. What you wrote was perfectly understandable, I just changed it a little. I don't think that your English ability is anything like the "speek gud" that you were saying it is! ;)
Thank you. This is exactly the right thing to do. I did see that some other changes were reverted, but it was perhaps unwise to include these when undoing my edit. Deb (talk) 13:43, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Cara, já não vou nem responder, não tenho paciência para isso... Esse "caso" me fez perder muito da minha vontade de editar aqui, já não entro nem reservo tanto tempo para a WP mais. Agora que o ânimo parecia voltar, bum! Vem uma dessas. Vou ter que voltar a ser a Mary Poppins do rapaz, ao que me parece. Abraços! MYS77✉01:13, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, e só nessa meia hora que percebi que o "amigão" voltou, já reverti umas 5-6 edições dele. Assim fica difícil mesmo... MYS77✉01:43, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Já percebi também que o pessoal do WP:FOOTY não dá a devida atenção àquela página. Agora, quando preciso de algo, também escrevo direto ao Matty. Acabou perdendo a cabeça com o Luca? Não o culpo. Abraços, MYS77✉02:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Sim, sim, tens razão. Não é motivo para enchermos a cabeça. Mas ainda assim, minha opinião é: se não sabe, tente. Se tentou e não deu certo, significa que você não é bom para isso, insista até certo ponto apenas. Esses lemas de "não desista" simplesmente não funcionam para mim. Acho que você deve tentar até quando começa a incomodar os outros, assim que isso aconteçe, acho que se deve parar. MYS77✉02:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Sim, se eu seguisse a lógica do LG iria editar a WP Russa. Mas ainda acho que o pior de tudo é o nome dessa seção, ainda mais para nós que realmente sabemos perfeitamente o que a palavra significa. Mas, como foi o Luca quem criou... MYS77✉02:52, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Ainda assim, não é só porque tu escreves que eu deva escrever também, não é? Bom, boa noite meu caro, aqui já é 0:00 e aí já deve estar bem mais tarde. Abraços! MYS77✉03:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok no problem ,if i do wrong edit please revert me but don't insult me in the edit summary.
Here there is a ip who is doing the disruption →→Mattia Gallon (93.58.151.82)
i don't know if it is Umberto Bossura or a small vandal.
Arrabbiati, sgridami o scrivi in talk ma non insulti.
Estou "monitorando" as edições do LG, mas cara, ao que me parece, ele fica rondando a WP toda só para achar páginas tão ruins quanto às dele, e então editar alguma coisa (que não vai mudar em nada a página em si) e falar no edit summary: "Está vendo, o inglês dessa página é tão ruim quanto o das minhas" ou "olha, o cara aqui cometeu o mesmo erro que eu". Na minha opinião, isso é irritante e indiscreto/indelicado, além de terrivelmente feio (justificar seus erros apontando os dos outros). Abraços, MYS77✉01:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, sim, irei mandar uma mensagem à ele. Desejo-te, conforme já disse, tudo de melhor aqui e lá fora, certamente a WP sentirá tua falta. Abraços, tudo de bom! MYS77✉18:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Buona fortuna
Va bene ok prenditi una vacanza, riposati, goditi il sole, il mare, la natura.
Buona fortuna a te e alla famiglia
--Lglukgl (talk) 19:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Ao que me parece, foi esse cara aqui quem bagunçou toda a "historinha" de novo, e me parece que essa não foi a única que ele mexeu. Seria mais fácil se bloqueássemos esse cidadão aí e pronto. Abraços! MYS77✉04:50, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
semedo
Semedo played one year for Steaua II Bucureşti, why do you remove this informations? if you remove this, please remove same infos on this page Lionel Messi, barcelona b and barcelona c. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.12.216.165 (talk) 17:45, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm glad to hear you're staying, and I hope you are happy with your RL and wiki activities. That's the most important thing. Mattythewhite (talk) 01:21, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Hahaha não sei porque escrevi em inglês, estava com tanto sono que nem eu mesmo posso explicar... Só posso dizer que fiquei feliz com o teu retorno e, aproveitando a ocasião, uma pergunta: por que o Strutway está trocando todos os left/right defender por left/right back. Não está correto da primeira maneira?
Entendo, mas é bem mais fácil para nos entendermos se escrevermos na nossa língua nativa, não? Adicionei as estatísticas pertencentes ao Stoeten. Abraços! MYS77✉18:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
A reference is a link to a reliable published source, ideally an accurate one, that verifies the fact(s) it comes after. What matters is whether the reference used verifies the content, not what it looks like. Stats databases – the things you disparagingly call "links" – are generally better for verifying statistical stuff because statistical stuff is their field of expertise. That single BDFutbol page verifies not only the fact that he only played once for Lemona in Segunda B, but also that he never played for anybody else at that level or higher. Which makes it an ideal reference for the content it sits after.
Hilarious as in, it made me laugh. What people do in public life outside or after whatever made them notable can be encyclopedic, as long as it's not unduly personal or trivial, or written about in excess detail while their notable career is neglected. I see no harm in including this item, reported briefly and factually as you have done. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Why didn't you talk with me about this? I was accused of adding false information for adding correct information: on loan from Benfica. Fixed4u (talk) 16:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
There is a problem with this article. Benfica reported to CMVM a value of €6 million for Garay's transfer to Zenit. User:RealDealBillMcNeal is changing it to €15 million using ESPN and Independent.co.uk sources... Fixed4u (talk) 18:10, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I would like to thank you for the the information you gave me and not assumed I would understand by myself. I used these information to make corrections to all the football players that belong to PAOK F.C.. It is nice to have people like yo who cooperate for the improvement of WIkipedia. --User:Paok8888 (talk) 16:15, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the new information. I won't change anything you edited and I will use these info to make new corrections. --User:Paok8888 (talk) 12:05, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
... I was completely sure... Temporary blindness pr what? Arvedui89 (talk) 07:09, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
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